From linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Mon Dec 31 01:24:07 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mhonarc@limes.convergence.de Received: (qmail 3037 invoked by uid 0); 31 Dec 2001 01:24:07 -0000 Received: from chambertin.convergence.de (212.84.236.2) by limes.convergence.de with SMTP; 31 Dec 2001 01:24:07 -0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=chambertin) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16Kr3N-0006TE-00; Mon, 31 Dec 2001 02:15:49 +0100 Received: with LISTAR (v0.129a; list linux-dvb); Mon, 31 Dec 2001 02:11:25 +0100 (MET) Received: from posti1.jyu.fi ([130.234.4.32] ident=root) by chambertin.convergence.de with TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168 encrypted esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16Kqz6-00069A-00 for ; Mon, 31 Dec 2001 02:11:24 +0100 Received: from tukki.cc.jyu.fi (tukki.cc.jyu.fi [130.234.4.100]) by posti1.jyu.fi (8.11.3/8.11.3/antispam) with ESMTP id fBV1BK920635 for ; Mon, 31 Dec 2001 03:11:22 +0200 (EET) Received: (from otto@localhost) by tukki.cc.jyu.fi (8.10.2+Sun/8.10.2) id fBV1BKo00442 for linux-dvb@linuxtv.org; Mon, 31 Dec 2001 03:11:20 +0200 (EET) Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 03:11:20 +0200 From: "Otto J. Makela" To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Availability of Siemens DVB-C card? Message-ID: <20011231031120.B359@cc.jyu.fi> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i X-listar-version: Listar v0.129a Sender: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Errors-to: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org X-original-sender: om@iki.fi Precedence: bulk X-list: linux-dvb I would also like to apologize in advance for this newbie question. I've now gone through all the mail-order links at linuxtv.org and no company listed there seems to currently stock the Siemens/Technotrend DVB-C card. Search engine work doesn't seem to turn anything up either. Is something going on I should be aware of (like the card production being cancelled), or am I just unlucky? Can anyone point me to a store in the EU area where I could mail order a card for myself? -- /* * * Otto J. 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From linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Mon Dec 31 01:43:06 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mhonarc@limes.convergence.de Received: (qmail 8318 invoked by uid 0); 31 Dec 2001 01:43:06 -0000 Received: from chambertin.convergence.de (212.84.236.2) by limes.convergence.de with SMTP; 31 Dec 2001 01:43:06 -0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=chambertin) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16KrLl-0007nG-00; Mon, 31 Dec 2001 02:34:49 +0100 Received: with LISTAR (v0.129a; list linux-dvb); Mon, 31 Dec 2001 02:31:51 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail.icem.de ([194.175.115.14] helo=gateway.hnv.icem.de) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16KrIs-0007XX-00 for ; Mon, 31 Dec 2001 02:31:51 +0100 Received: from willina.icem.ptc.com (root@[158.225.3.93]) by gateway.hnv.icem.de (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id CAA24650; Mon, 31 Dec 2001 02:31:33 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: gateway.hnv.icem.de: Host root@[158.225.3.93] claimed to be willina.icem.ptc.com Received: from wald.hnv.icem.de ([158.225.25.1]) by willina.icem.ptc.com (8.12.1/8.12.1/Debian -2) with ESMTP id fBV1SMVc031399; Mon, 31 Dec 2001 02:28:23 +0100 Received: from icem.de (wald.hnv.icem.de [158.225.25.1]) by wald.hnv.icem.de (SGI-8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA42932; Mon, 31 Dec 2001 02:30:43 +0100 (MET) Sender: Carsten.Koch@icem.de Message-ID: <3C2FBFC2.E048F318@icem.de> Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 02:30:42 +0100 From: Carsten Koch Organization: ICEM Technologies GmbH X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79C-SGI [en] (X11; U; IRIX 6.5 IP32) X-Accept-Language: de, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Otto J. Makela" CC: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: Availability of Siemens DVB-C card? References: <20011231031120.B359@cc.jyu.fi> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS-perl11-milter (http://amavis.org/) X-listar-version: Listar v0.129a Sender: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Errors-to: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org X-original-sender: Carsten.Koch@icem.de Precedence: bulk X-list: linux-dvb "Otto J. Makela" wrote: > > I would also like to apologize in advance for this newbie question. > > I've now gone through all the mail-order links at linuxtv.org and no > company listed there seems to currently stock the Siemens/Technotrend > DVB-C card. Search engine work doesn't seem to turn anything up either. > > Is something going on I should be aware of (like the card production > being cancelled), or am I just unlucky? Can anyone point me to a store > in the EU area where I could mail order a card for myself? http://www.tomshardware.de/video/01q4/011102/dvbcards-12.html In case you do not understand german, here is the (funny) babelfish translation of the above page: http://babelfish.altavista.com/urltrurl?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.tomshardware.de%2Fvideo%2F01q4%2F011102%2Fdvbcards-12.html&doit=done&lp=de_en&tt=url&urltext= Carsten. -- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Mon Dec 31 09:52:32 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mhonarc@limes.convergence.de Received: (qmail 13845 invoked by uid 0); 31 Dec 2001 09:52:32 -0000 Received: from chambertin.convergence.de (212.84.236.2) by limes.convergence.de with SMTP; 31 Dec 2001 09:52:32 -0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=chambertin) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16KyzN-00031T-00; Mon, 31 Dec 2001 10:44:13 +0100 Received: with LISTAR (v0.129a; list linux-dvb); Mon, 31 Dec 2001 10:34:33 +0100 (MET) Received: from smtp01.web.de ([194.45.170.210] helo=smtp.web.de) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16Kyq1-0002VI-00 for ; Mon, 31 Dec 2001 10:34:33 +0100 Received: from [217.230.16.14] (helo=there) by smtp.web.de with smtp (Exim 4.00 #56) id 16Kyq0-0005HV-00 for linux-dvb@linuxtv.org; Mon, 31 Dec 2001 10:34:32 +0100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Jonas Meyer To: Subject: [linux-dvb] biossettings PNPOS=yes is it possible ? irq sharing problem fixed. Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 10:25:52 +0100 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: X-listar-version: Listar v0.129a Sender: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Errors-to: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org X-original-sender: shitse@web.de Precedence: bulk X-list: linux-dvb Hello list After i took out the nic sharing irq with my dvb i was able to load the drivers and not crash my box.but there was no picture.So i entered the bios and switched "pnpos installed" to no again.well but i have heard that linux is a pnpos now at least with recent kernels. so why can'T i get that working?is it a problem of my bios my kernel or the drivers? i haven't checked if i can plug in my nic again and share irqs.If the pnpos problem isn'T specific to me,is someone working on it? The driver is very great work btw.It was no problem for me to switch to devfs for me. jonas -- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Mon Dec 31 09:52:33 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mhonarc@limes.convergence.de Received: (qmail 13850 invoked by uid 0); 31 Dec 2001 09:52:32 -0000 Received: from chambertin.convergence.de (212.84.236.2) by limes.convergence.de with SMTP; 31 Dec 2001 09:52:32 -0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=chambertin) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16KyzN-00031R-00; Mon, 31 Dec 2001 10:44:13 +0100 Received: with LISTAR (v0.129a; list linux-dvb); Mon, 31 Dec 2001 10:34:33 +0100 (MET) Received: from smtp01.web.de ([194.45.170.210] helo=smtp.web.de) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16Kyq1-0002VP-00 for ; Mon, 31 Dec 2001 10:34:33 +0100 Received: from [217.230.16.14] (helo=there) by smtp.web.de with smtp (Exim 4.00 #56) id 16Kyq1-0005HV-00 for linux-dvb@linuxtv.org; Mon, 31 Dec 2001 10:34:33 +0100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Jonas Meyer To: Subject: [linux-dvb] proper installation of the debian driver-source package Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 10:30:49 +0100 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: X-listar-version: Listar v0.129a Sender: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Errors-to: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org X-original-sender: shitse@web.de Precedence: bulk X-list: linux-dvb hello list i don't really understand how to use the debs.i followed the docs as far as it was possible (copying files from non-debian source etc.),but never was able to actually build the modules with make-kpkg. And i still don't understand one thing is it possible to let modutils handle the loading of the drivers?i never figured out a working modules.conf. jonas frohes neues ->ALL -- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Mon Dec 31 17:01:50 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mhonarc@limes.convergence.de Received: (qmail 29108 invoked by uid 0); 31 Dec 2001 17:01:50 -0000 Received: from chambertin.convergence.de (212.84.236.2) by limes.convergence.de with SMTP; 31 Dec 2001 17:01:50 -0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=chambertin) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16L5gr-0004VO-00; Mon, 31 Dec 2001 17:53:33 +0100 Received: with LISTAR (v0.129a; list linux-dvb); Mon, 31 Dec 2001 17:49:11 +0100 (MET) Received: from natpost.webmailer.de ([192.67.198.65] helo=post.webmailer.de) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16L5cd-0004Eb-00 for ; Mon, 31 Dec 2001 17:49:11 +0100 Received: from rbnote (p5085BB2C.dip.t-dialin.net [80.133.187.44]) by post.webmailer.de (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id RAA07978 for ; Mon, 31 Dec 2001 17:49:10 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <003901c1921a$d15ccf10$0c02010a@local.net> From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Ren=E9_Bartsch?= To: Subject: [linux-dvb] Frequency-string at V4L interface Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 17:35:40 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-listar-version: Listar v0.129a Sender: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Errors-to: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org X-original-sender: rene@bartschnet.de Precedence: bulk X-list: linux-dvb Hi, as for I didn't get an answer yet I ask again (especially to people of Convergence): I wan't to create a frequency-table for Linux (used by Xawtv, scantv, MPlayer, ...) for DVB over satelite. But the existing frequency-tables (europe-west, europe-east, ...) are made for terrestrian or cable receivers. They only hand over the frequency, but satelite needs additional information such as high/low, horizontal/vertikal, ... I hope the Convergence-driver can use the standard strings for frequency at the V4L-interface, with additional information (e.g. "11632000:v:l" or "11632000:0:1" instead of "847250"). I would create a standard frequency-table and use that strings instead of the terrestrian frequencies. Is it possible to do so? How must that string be (frequency, additional information, ...)? Of course, I will send the frequency table to Gerd Knorr from Xawtv for public use. Thanx Rene -- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Mon Dec 31 17:16:42 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mhonarc@limes.convergence.de Received: (qmail 1786 invoked by uid 0); 31 Dec 2001 17:16:42 -0000 Received: from chambertin.convergence.de (212.84.236.2) by limes.convergence.de with SMTP; 31 Dec 2001 17:16:42 -0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=chambertin) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16L5vF-0005im-00; Mon, 31 Dec 2001 18:08:25 +0100 Received: with LISTAR (v0.129a; list linux-dvb); Mon, 31 Dec 2001 18:06:33 +0100 (MET) Received: from mailrelay.netcologne.de ([194.8.194.96]) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16L5tR-0005VI-00 for ; Mon, 31 Dec 2001 18:06:33 +0100 Received: from sheridan.metzler (dial-213-168-96-107.netcologne.de [213.168.96.107]) by mailrelay.netcologne.de (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id fBVH6Se08750; Mon, 31 Dec 2001 18:06:28 +0100 (MET) Received: (from mocm@localhost) by sheridan.metzler (8.11.3/8.11.0/SuSE Linux 8.11.0-0.4) id fBVH6Sr25956; Mon, 31 Dec 2001 18:06:28 +0100 From: Message-ID: <15408.39700.218969.808668@sheridan.metzler> Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 18:06:28 +0100 (CET) To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Ren=E9?= Bartsch Cc: Subject: [linux-dvb] Frequency-string at V4L interface In-Reply-To: <003901c1921a$d15ccf10$0c02010a@local.net> References: <003901c1921a$d15ccf10$0c02010a@local.net> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid Reply-To: Marcus Metzler X-Face: X!$Vwl\?,AW_[zm^ej\MLxN>q;R?C_sRZ*XE4V;BGT28Ewyd\:TS')W'G#Dgay8ci$*{lEd 02(Nk0OndG\752U>lozmb_R1poDm6mgHm_4.}bdS0hh.`xGUI.X2x_50T9.?_v~.,QI*$2:Q=HV@>F IP6%l~E:T|w,X[eC;|YD(A9X'sS"r$l]g<4CjAm4|f7o0>6zGwUPLinP0.d=E+_%?4>0A9'esEZ=9h $#b[g*/q/g'GVj-hDc,+V_]1.H^N,1Bju,>5FZn"B Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 1.6) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-listar-version: Listar v0.129a Sender: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Errors-to: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org X-original-sender: mocm@convergence.de Precedence: bulk X-list: linux-dvb =?iso-8859-1?Q?Ren=E9_Bartsch?= writes: > I hope the Convergence-driver can use the standard strings for frequency at the V4L-interface, with additional information > (e.g. "11632000:v:l" or "11632000:0:1" instead of "847250"). I would create a standard frequency-table and use that strings instead > of the terrestrian frequencies. 1) There is no frequency string in the video4linux API. Its an unsigned long. 2) We are not using the v4l API for tuning. Tuning is much more complicated than setting a frequency. 3) Use xawtv for viewing and tuxzap or any other tuning application included in the driver package or elsewhere for tuning. Marcus -- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Mon Dec 31 17:48:17 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mhonarc@limes.convergence.de Received: (qmail 11851 invoked by uid 0); 31 Dec 2001 17:48:17 -0000 Received: from chambertin.convergence.de (212.84.236.2) by limes.convergence.de with SMTP; 31 Dec 2001 17:48:17 -0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=chambertin) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16L6Pn-0007I9-00; Mon, 31 Dec 2001 18:39:59 +0100 Received: with LISTAR (v0.129a; list linux-dvb); Mon, 31 Dec 2001 18:38:16 +0100 (MET) Received: from mailout06.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.19]) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16KMZk-000349-00 for ; Sat, 29 Dec 2001 17:43:12 +0100 Received: from fwd05.sul.t-online.de by mailout06.sul.t-online.de with smtp id 16KMZk-0007UF-04; Sat, 29 Dec 2001 17:43:12 +0100 Received: from there (07805910911-0001@[217.84.123.155]) by fmrl05.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 16KMZZ-0DYtYeC; Sat, 29 Dec 2001 17:43:01 +0100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Eric Velte To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] How to use DVB and TV-Card at the same time ? Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2001 17:47:28 +0100 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.1] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <16KMZZ-0DYtYeC@fmrl05.sul.t-online.com> X-Sender: 07805910911-0001@t-dialin.net X-Approved-By: dirk@convergence.de X-listar-version: Listar v0.129a Sender: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Errors-to: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org X-original-sender: dirk@convergence.de Precedence: bulk X-list: linux-dvb Hi Can someone help me? I want to use the DVB Card and a TV-Card "Hauppauge Old" at the same time in one computer. If i have used the TV-Card, I can't load the driver for the DVB-Card! The error Msg is : insmod: a module named i2c-core already exists insmod: a module named videodev already exists insmod: a module named tuner already exists And if I have used the DVB Card I can't use the TV-Card, until I make an reboot. Is there a solution ? Bye, Eric Velte -- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From vdr-bounce@linuxtv.org Mon Dec 31 20:00:25 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mhonarc@limes.convergence.de Received: (qmail 22757 invoked by uid 0); 31 Dec 2001 20:00:25 -0000 Received: from chambertin.convergence.de (212.84.236.2) by limes.convergence.de with SMTP; 31 Dec 2001 20:00:25 -0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=chambertin) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16L8Tc-0004Dh-00; Mon, 31 Dec 2001 20:52:04 +0100 Received: with LISTAR (v0.129a; list vdr); Mon, 31 Dec 2001 20:51:49 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail.icem.de ([194.175.115.14] helo=gateway.hnv.icem.de) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16L8TM-00048S-00; Mon, 31 Dec 2001 20:51:48 +0100 Received: from willina.icem.ptc.com (root@[158.225.3.93]) by gateway.hnv.icem.de (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id UAA26423; Mon, 31 Dec 2001 20:52:01 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: gateway.hnv.icem.de: Host root@[158.225.3.93] claimed to be willina.icem.ptc.com Received: from wald.hnv.icem.de ([158.225.25.1]) by willina.icem.ptc.com (8.12.1/8.12.1/Debian -2) with ESMTP id fBVJmnVc011318; Mon, 31 Dec 2001 20:48:49 +0100 Received: from icem.de (wald.hnv.icem.de [158.225.25.1]) by wald.hnv.icem.de (SGI-8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA44172; Mon, 31 Dec 2001 20:51:12 +0100 (MET) Sender: Carsten.Koch@icem.de Message-ID: <3C30C1B0.62746350@icem.de> Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 20:51:12 +0100 From: Carsten Koch Organization: ICEM Technologies GmbH X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79C-SGI [en] (X11; U; IRIX 6.5 IP32) X-Accept-Language: de, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: vdr@linuxtv.org, linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [vdr] Re: ARM crashed while cutting, VDR watchdog timer failed. References: <3C2E73EA.F7269974@icem.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS-perl11-milter (http://amavis.org/) X-listar-version: Listar v0.129a Sender: vdr-bounce@linuxtv.org Errors-to: vdr-bounce@linuxtv.org X-original-sender: Carsten.Koch@icem.de Precedence: bulk Reply-to: vdr@linuxtv.org X-list: vdr Carsten Koch wrote: ... > Dec 30 02:23:53 vdr kernel: dvb0: ARM crashed! ... > And why does the watchdog timer not work? OK, I fixed the failing watchdog timer: Dec 31 18:49:06 vdr kernel: dvb0: ARM crashed! Dec 31 18:49:18 vdr vdr[4849]: PANIC: watchdog timer expired - exiting! ... Dec 31 19:03:51 vdr kernel: dvb0: ARM crashed! Dec 31 19:04:03 vdr vdr[5326]: PANIC: watchdog timer expired - exiting! ... Dec 31 20:01:04 vdr kernel: dvb0: ARM crashed! Dec 31 20:01:16 vdr vdr[5943]: PANIC: watchdog timer expired - exiting! ... Dec 31 20:20:23 vdr kernel: dvb0: ARM crashed! Dec 31 20:20:35 vdr vdr[6403]: PANIC: watchdog timer expired - exiting! ... Dec 31 20:25:46 vdr kernel: dvb0: ARM crashed! Dec 31 20:25:57 vdr vdr[6820]: PANIC: watchdog timer expired - exiting! ... Here is the patch: --- dvbosd.c.orig Mon Dec 31 18:19:16 2001 +++ dvbosd.c Mon Dec 31 19:55:47 2001 @@ -347,6 +347,7 @@ // must block all signals, otherwise the command might not be fully executed sigset_t set, oldset; sigfillset(&set); + sigdelset(&set, SIGALRM); sigprocmask(SIG_BLOCK, &set, &oldset); ioctl(videoDev, OSD_SEND_CMD, &dc); usleep(5000); // XXX Workaround for a driver bug (cInterface::DisplayChannel() displayed texts at wrong places I tried various things both in vdr and in the driver, but so far I found no workaround for the ARM crash. Help and ideas appreciated. I suspected the problem to be OSD-related, so I changed the usleep in cDvbOsd::Cmd from 5 ms to 100 ms. That made the OSD jerky, but the ARM still kept crashing. I wondered if too much data was transferred in one OSD_SetBlock ioctl, so I put a printk into DVB/driver/dvb.c/OSDSetBlock that showed bnum and brest, but all bnum's near an ARM crash were 0. I also changed the lpb=(32*1024)/bpl; in DVB/driver/dvb.c/OSDSetBlock to lpb=(1*1024)/bpl; which makes the OSD very smooth and slow, but the ARM still keeps crashing. Any other ideas what I could try? Thanks, Cheers and a happy new year! Carsten. From linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Mon Dec 31 20:02:49 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mhonarc@limes.convergence.de Received: (qmail 24955 invoked by uid 0); 31 Dec 2001 20:02:49 -0000 Received: from chambertin.convergence.de (212.84.236.2) by limes.convergence.de with SMTP; 31 Dec 2001 20:02:49 -0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=chambertin) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16L8W0-0004U3-00; Mon, 31 Dec 2001 20:54:32 +0100 Received: with LISTAR (v0.129a; list linux-dvb); Mon, 31 Dec 2001 20:52:05 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail.icem.de ([194.175.115.14] helo=gateway.hnv.icem.de) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16L8TM-00048S-00; Mon, 31 Dec 2001 20:51:48 +0100 Received: from willina.icem.ptc.com (root@[158.225.3.93]) by gateway.hnv.icem.de (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id UAA26423; Mon, 31 Dec 2001 20:52:01 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: gateway.hnv.icem.de: Host root@[158.225.3.93] claimed to be willina.icem.ptc.com Received: from wald.hnv.icem.de ([158.225.25.1]) by willina.icem.ptc.com (8.12.1/8.12.1/Debian -2) with ESMTP id fBVJmnVc011318; Mon, 31 Dec 2001 20:48:49 +0100 Received: from icem.de (wald.hnv.icem.de [158.225.25.1]) by wald.hnv.icem.de (SGI-8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA44172; Mon, 31 Dec 2001 20:51:12 +0100 (MET) Sender: Carsten.Koch@icem.de Message-ID: <3C30C1B0.62746350@icem.de> Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 20:51:12 +0100 From: Carsten Koch Organization: ICEM Technologies GmbH X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79C-SGI [en] (X11; U; IRIX 6.5 IP32) X-Accept-Language: de, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: vdr@linuxtv.org, linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: [vdr] ARM crashed while cutting, VDR watchdog timer failed. References: <3C2E73EA.F7269974@icem.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS-perl11-milter (http://amavis.org/) X-listar-version: Listar v0.129a Sender: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Errors-to: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org X-original-sender: Carsten.Koch@icem.de Precedence: bulk X-list: linux-dvb Carsten Koch wrote: ... > Dec 30 02:23:53 vdr kernel: dvb0: ARM crashed! ... > And why does the watchdog timer not work? OK, I fixed the failing watchdog timer: Dec 31 18:49:06 vdr kernel: dvb0: ARM crashed! Dec 31 18:49:18 vdr vdr[4849]: PANIC: watchdog timer expired - exiting! ... Dec 31 19:03:51 vdr kernel: dvb0: ARM crashed! Dec 31 19:04:03 vdr vdr[5326]: PANIC: watchdog timer expired - exiting! ... Dec 31 20:01:04 vdr kernel: dvb0: ARM crashed! Dec 31 20:01:16 vdr vdr[5943]: PANIC: watchdog timer expired - exiting! ... Dec 31 20:20:23 vdr kernel: dvb0: ARM crashed! Dec 31 20:20:35 vdr vdr[6403]: PANIC: watchdog timer expired - exiting! ... Dec 31 20:25:46 vdr kernel: dvb0: ARM crashed! Dec 31 20:25:57 vdr vdr[6820]: PANIC: watchdog timer expired - exiting! ... Here is the patch: --- dvbosd.c.orig Mon Dec 31 18:19:16 2001 +++ dvbosd.c Mon Dec 31 19:55:47 2001 @@ -347,6 +347,7 @@ // must block all signals, otherwise the command might not be fully executed sigset_t set, oldset; sigfillset(&set); + sigdelset(&set, SIGALRM); sigprocmask(SIG_BLOCK, &set, &oldset); ioctl(videoDev, OSD_SEND_CMD, &dc); usleep(5000); // XXX Workaround for a driver bug (cInterface::DisplayChannel() displayed texts at wrong places I tried various things both in vdr and in the driver, but so far I found no workaround for the ARM crash. Help and ideas appreciated. I suspected the problem to be OSD-related, so I changed the usleep in cDvbOsd::Cmd from 5 ms to 100 ms. That made the OSD jerky, but the ARM still kept crashing. I wondered if too much data was transferred in one OSD_SetBlock ioctl, so I put a printk into DVB/driver/dvb.c/OSDSetBlock that showed bnum and brest, but all bnum's near an ARM crash were 0. I also changed the lpb=(32*1024)/bpl; in DVB/driver/dvb.c/OSDSetBlock to lpb=(1*1024)/bpl; which makes the OSD very smooth and slow, but the ARM still keeps crashing. Any other ideas what I could try? Thanks, Cheers and a happy new year! Carsten. -- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Wed Jan 02 10:46:30 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mhonarc@limes.convergence.de Received: (qmail 19969 invoked by uid 0); 2 Jan 2002 10:46:30 -0000 Received: from chambertin.convergence.de (212.84.236.2) by limes.convergence.de with SMTP; 2 Jan 2002 10:46:30 -0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=chambertin) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16Limf-0002RZ-00; Wed, 02 Jan 2002 11:38:09 +0100 Received: with LISTAR (v0.129a; list linux-dvb); Wed, 02 Jan 2002 11:35:05 +0100 (MET) Received: from moutvdom00.kundenserver.de ([195.20.224.149]) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16L6jh-0008V1-00 for ; Mon, 31 Dec 2001 19:00:33 +0100 Received: from [195.20.224.220] (helo=mrvdom04.kundenserver.de) by moutvdom00.kundenserver.de with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 16L6jh-0002vi-00 for linux-dvb@linuxtv.org; Mon, 31 Dec 2001 19:00:33 +0100 Received: from p3ee3e648.dip.t-dialin.net ([62.227.230.72] helo=there) by mrvdom04.kundenserver.de with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 16L6jg-0005dr-00; Mon, 31 Dec 2001 19:00:33 +0100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Christian Schuld To: Eric Velte , linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] How to use DVB and TV-Card at the same time ? Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 19:00:57 +0100 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.1] References: <16KMZZ-0DYtYeC@fmrl05.sul.t-online.com> In-Reply-To: <16KMZZ-0DYtYeC@fmrl05.sul.t-online.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: X-Approved-By: dirk@convergence.de X-listar-version: Listar v0.129a Sender: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Errors-to: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org X-original-sender: dirk@convergence.de Precedence: bulk X-list: linux-dvb Hi, i have the same setup like you. To get it going, i do the following: 1.) load the bttv drivers *befor* the DVB drivers 2.) rename tuner.c to dvb_tuner.c in DVB/driver subdirectory 3.) rename all references to "tuner" in the Makefile to "dvb_tuner" 4.) make insmod You'll get the insmod errors about i2c-core and videodev, too, but they don't matter. Regards Christian Am Samstag, 29. Dezember 2001 17:47 schrieb Eric Velte: > Hi > Can someone help me? > I want to use the DVB Card and a TV-Card "Hauppauge Old" at the same time > in one computer. > If i have used the TV-Card, I can't load the driver for the DVB-Card! > The error Msg is : > insmod: a module named i2c-core already exists > insmod: a module named videodev already exists > insmod: a module named tuner already exists > > And if I have used the DVB Card I can't use the TV-Card, until I make an > reboot. > > Is there a solution ? > > Bye, > Eric Velte -- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Wed Jan 02 10:46:32 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mhonarc@limes.convergence.de Received: (qmail 19975 invoked by uid 0); 2 Jan 2002 10:46:32 -0000 Received: from chambertin.convergence.de (212.84.236.2) by limes.convergence.de with SMTP; 2 Jan 2002 10:46:32 -0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=chambertin) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16Limg-0002Rk-00; Wed, 02 Jan 2002 11:38:10 +0100 Received: with LISTAR (v0.129a; list linux-dvb); Wed, 02 Jan 2002 11:32:17 +0100 (MET) Received: from web21205.mail.yahoo.com ([216.136.131.248]) by chambertin.convergence.de with smtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16KTOs-0006N7-00 for ; Sun, 30 Dec 2001 01:00:26 +0100 Message-ID: <20011230000019.45661.qmail@web21205.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [63.193.248.57] by web21205.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 29 Dec 2001 16:00:19 PST Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2001 16:00:19 -0800 (PST) From: "S. Emiclueful" Subject: [linux-dvb] DVB-s cards for North America? To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Approved-By: dirk@convergence.de X-listar-version: Listar v0.129a Sender: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Errors-to: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org X-original-sender: dirk@convergence.de Precedence: bulk X-list: linux-dvb I'm interested in building a Linux-based DVB-s system, but I'm finding it difficult to gather information on PCI DVB-s cards from my vantage point in sunny California. I've read the Linux-DVB hardware FAQ, and I understand that several manufacturers offer more or less the same card, though it seems that the card design has gone through various revisions. (Incidentally, I'm only interested in info on "full-featured" cards.) Can someone describe the different card versions and how they correspond to current products? I'd like to know which versions of which cards offer NTSC output, RGB output, S/PDIF output, etc. If any North American readers can offer advice on trade-offs between the various cards, and can recommend reputable and low-priced dealers :-) in Europe or elsewhere, I'd appreciate it. I'm particularly interested in receiving PBS on AMC-3, which seems to encode its audio in AC-3. So, which boards offer S/PDIF out, or is there a way to decode AC-3 via software? What sound card would you recommend for decoding AC-3 input? Thanks! __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com -- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Wed Jan 02 23:15:10 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mhonarc@limes.convergence.de Received: (qmail 8950 invoked by uid 0); 2 Jan 2002 23:15:10 -0000 Received: from chambertin.convergence.de (212.84.236.2) by limes.convergence.de with SMTP; 2 Jan 2002 23:15:10 -0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=chambertin) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16LuTA-0008Gr-00; Thu, 03 Jan 2002 00:06:48 +0100 Received: with LISTAR (v0.129a; list linux-dvb); Thu, 03 Jan 2002 00:02:25 +0100 (MET) Received: from imdns1.tin.it ([212.216.176.237] helo=fep41-svc.tin.it) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16LuOu-0007st-00 for ; Thu, 03 Jan 2002 00:02:24 +0100 Received: from shadow.baracchino.it ([212.171.195.143]) by fep41-svc.tin.it (InterMail vM.4.01.03.13 201-229-121-113) with ESMTP id <20020102230206.RYPW3603.fep41-svc.tin.it@shadow.baracchino.it> for ; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 00:02:06 +0100 Message-Id: <5.0.0.25.2.20020103000421.01ba9d30@studenti.ing.unipi.it> X-Sender: s213069@studenti.ing.unipi.it X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0 Date: Thu, 03 Jan 2002 00:05:12 +0100 To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org From: giancarlo@baracchino.it Subject: [linux-dvb] DVB-S card crash!! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-listar-version: Listar v0.129a Sender: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Errors-to: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org X-original-sender: giancarlo@baracchino.it Precedence: bulk X-list: linux-dvb Sometimes my dvb-s siemens card resets it self... it says: kernel: dvb0: ARM crashed! kernel: bootarm: debi test OK kernel: bootarm: load boot code kernel: bootarm: load dram code kernel: Unable to load 'arm_firm/Root'. kernel: Writing DRAM block 0 .. kernel: Writing DRAM block 81 kernel: bootarm: load dpram code kernel: Unable to load 'arm_firm/Dpram'. Then my card starts again to work. I have the latest cvs snapshot installed. What I have done wrong? Thanks -- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Thu Jan 03 00:36:45 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mhonarc@limes.convergence.de Received: (qmail 5745 invoked by uid 0); 3 Jan 2002 00:36:44 -0000 Received: from chambertin.convergence.de (212.84.236.2) by limes.convergence.de with SMTP; 3 Jan 2002 00:36:44 -0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=chambertin) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16Lvk7-0003jt-00; Thu, 03 Jan 2002 01:28:23 +0100 Received: with LISTAR (v0.129a; list linux-dvb); Thu, 03 Jan 2002 01:25:45 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail.icem.de ([194.175.115.14] helo=gateway.hnv.icem.de) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16LvhZ-0003UE-00 for ; Thu, 03 Jan 2002 01:25:45 +0100 Received: from willina.icem.ptc.com (root@[158.225.3.93]) by gateway.hnv.icem.de (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id BAA31667 for ; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 01:25:55 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: gateway.hnv.icem.de: Host root@[158.225.3.93] claimed to be willina.icem.ptc.com Received: from wald.hnv.icem.de ([158.225.25.1]) by willina.icem.ptc.com (8.12.1/8.12.1/Debian -2) with ESMTP id g030MfVc017797 for ; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 01:22:41 +0100 Received: from icem.de (wald.hnv.icem.de [158.225.25.1]) by wald.hnv.icem.de (SGI-8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA48782 for ; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 01:25:08 +0100 (MET) Sender: Carsten.Koch@icem.de Message-ID: <3C33A4E4.B2F63E4B@icem.de> Date: Thu, 03 Jan 2002 01:25:08 +0100 From: Carsten Koch Organization: ICEM Technologies GmbH X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79C-SGI [en] (X11; U; IRIX 6.5 IP32) X-Accept-Language: de, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: DVB-S card crash!! References: <5.0.0.25.2.20020103000421.01ba9d30@studenti.ing.unipi.it> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS-perl11-milter (http://amavis.org/) X-listar-version: Listar v0.129a Sender: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Errors-to: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org X-original-sender: Carsten.Koch@icem.de Precedence: bulk X-list: linux-dvb giancarlo@baracchino.it wrote: > > Sometimes my dvb-s siemens card resets it self... it says: > > kernel: dvb0: ARM crashed! > kernel: bootarm: debi test OK I have a test case that produces ARM crashes easily - at least on my system. See http://linuxtv.org/mailinglists/vdr/2002/01-2002/msg00037.html but in my case, the driver does not automatically reload the ARM. I wonder why. Does anyone know why the ARM does not get reloaded in some cases (like mine) but does get reloaded in other cases (like Giancarlo's)? > What I have done wrong? That's hard to tell, as you are not saying what you are doing. Which application are you running? What did you do at the time of the crash? Do you have a reproducible test case? Of course you are not really doing anything wrong. I assume that the message "ARM crashed" indicates that the firmware in the card's processor has crashed. The most likely (but not the only possible) cause of any software crash is a bug. convergence has source for parts of the firmware. If the bug is in the parts they do not have source for, they cannot fix it. However, I assume that the driver could be changed so it communicates with the firmware in a way that works around the crashes. Of course, that's guesswork. The only person who really knows what's going on is probably Ralph. Carsten. -- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Thu Jan 03 08:37:49 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mhonarc@limes.convergence.de Received: (qmail 5359 invoked by uid 0); 3 Jan 2002 08:37:49 -0000 Received: from chambertin.convergence.de (212.84.236.2) by limes.convergence.de with SMTP; 3 Jan 2002 08:37:49 -0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=chambertin) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16M3Fe-0002zy-00; Thu, 03 Jan 2002 09:29:26 +0100 Received: with LISTAR (v0.129a; list linux-dvb); Thu, 03 Jan 2002 09:25:15 +0100 (MET) Received: from facade.firsthop.fi ([195.163.185.50] helo=factory.firsthop.fi) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16M3Bb-0002fo-00 for ; Thu, 03 Jan 2002 09:25:15 +0100 Received: (from smile@localhost) by factory.firsthop.fi (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA01640 for linux-dvb@linuxtv.org; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 10:24:39 +0200 Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2002 10:24:39 +0200 From: Lauri Pesonen To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] DVB-C Rev.2.1 and J2 Message-ID: <20020103102439.C1297@firsthop.com> Reply-To: lauri.pesonen@firsthop.com Mail-Followup-To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i X-listar-version: Listar v0.129a Sender: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Errors-to: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org X-original-sender: lauri.pesonen@firsthop.com Precedence: bulk X-list: linux-dvb Hi guys, I got my DVB-C card yesterday after a very long wait! When I look at the card, the layout looks just like the one described in http://www.lindy.cc/local/LinuxDVB.nsf/dvbs_board.jpg with all the Jx connectors. I've been following the mailinglist for a while now, and I've seen a couple of postings saying that rev.2.1 boards do not offer RGB/S-video/SPdif output from J2. Does this mean that: * rev.2.1 cards do have the J2 connector, but it does not provide the above mentioned signals any longer? * DVB-S rev.2.1 cards do not have the J2 connector anymore, but DVB-C rev.2.1 cards have it and it does work as before? All in all, I just want to know whether I van get RGB out of my DVB card ;) Br, Lauri -- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Thu Jan 03 09:09:32 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mhonarc@limes.convergence.de Received: (qmail 15307 invoked by uid 0); 3 Jan 2002 09:09:32 -0000 Received: from chambertin.convergence.de (212.84.236.2) by limes.convergence.de with SMTP; 3 Jan 2002 09:09:32 -0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=chambertin) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16M3kM-0005cv-00; Thu, 03 Jan 2002 10:01:10 +0100 Received: with LISTAR (v0.129a; list linux-dvb); Thu, 03 Jan 2002 09:58:12 +0100 (MET) Received: from ppd00021.deutschepost.de ([149.239.160.240]) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16M3hU-0004bL-00 for ; Thu, 03 Jan 2002 09:58:12 +0100 Received: from ddaap077.deutschepost.de (ddaap077.deutschepost.de [160.58.1.77]) by ppd00021.deutschepost.de (8.9.3 (PHNE_18546)/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA11876 for ; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 09:55:49 +0100 (MET) Received: from ddaah014.DeutschePost.de (unverified) by ddaap077.deutschepost.de (Content Technologies SMTPRS 2.0.15) with ESMTP id for ; Do, 03 Jan 2002 09:58:01 +0100 Received: by DDAAH014.DeutschePost.de with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 09:58:01 +0100 Message-Id: <019E7FD6783AD1119BA0400000363304EC21F6@MNPAH004.DeutschePost.de> From: "Rienecker, Fa. Evenio, ITS P, M" To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] AW: DVB-C Rev.2.1 and J2 Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2002 09:57:44 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-listar-version: Listar v0.129a Sender: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Errors-to: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org X-original-sender: C.Rienecker@deutschepost.de Precedence: bulk X-list: linux-dvb Hello, even more interesting would be: The DVB-C provides a 10-pin connector on the layout where we would = expect the J2 connector. But nobody has been able to find out if it is a J2 connector, so far. Since Siemens provides almost anything on the = external connector you would need the J2 most probably only for an internal connection e.g. for SPDIF. I just wasn't brave enough to just try out. Greeting, CR. > -----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht----- > Von: Lauri Pesonen [mailto:lauri.pesonen@firsthop.com] > Gesendet: Donnerstag, 3. Januar 2002 09:25 > An: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org > Betreff: [linux-dvb] DVB-C Rev.2.1 and J2 >=20 >=20 > Hi guys, >=20 > I got my DVB-C card yesterday after a very long wait! >=20 > When I look at the card, the layout looks just like the one=20 > described in=20 > http://www.lindy.cc/local/LinuxDVB.nsf/dvbs_board.jpg with all the Jx = > connectors. >=20 > I've been following the mailinglist for a while now, and I've seen a=20 > couple of postings saying that rev.2.1 boards do not offer=20 > RGB/S-video/SPdif output from J2. Does this mean that: >=20 > * rev.2.1 cards do have the J2 connector, but it does not provide the = > above mentioned signals any longer? >=20 > * DVB-S rev.2.1 cards do not have the J2 connector anymore, but DVB-C = > rev.2.1 cards have it and it does work as before? >=20 > All in all, I just want to know whether I van get RGB out of=20 > my DVB card=20 > ;) >=20 > Br, Lauri >=20 >=20 > --=20 > Info: > To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with=20 > "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. >=20 -- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Thu Jan 03 09:14:22 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mhonarc@limes.convergence.de Received: (qmail 15621 invoked by uid 0); 3 Jan 2002 09:14:22 -0000 Received: from chambertin.convergence.de (212.84.236.2) by limes.convergence.de with SMTP; 3 Jan 2002 09:14:22 -0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=chambertin) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16M3p2-00060R-00; Thu, 03 Jan 2002 10:06:00 +0100 Received: with LISTAR (v0.129a; list linux-dvb); Thu, 03 Jan 2002 10:03:12 +0100 (MET) Received: from facade.firsthop.fi ([195.163.185.50] helo=factory.firsthop.fi) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16M3mK-0005iW-00 for ; Thu, 03 Jan 2002 10:03:12 +0100 Received: (from smile@localhost) by factory.firsthop.fi (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA02609 for linux-dvb@linuxtv.org; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 11:02:38 +0200 Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2002 11:02:38 +0200 From: Lauri Pesonen To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: AW: DVB-C Rev.2.1 and J2 Message-ID: <20020103110236.F1297@firsthop.com> Reply-To: lauri.pesonen@firsthop.com Mail-Followup-To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org References: <019E7FD6783AD1119BA0400000363304EC21F6@MNPAH004.DeutschePost.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <019E7FD6783AD1119BA0400000363304EC21F6@MNPAH004.DeutschePost.de>; from C.Rienecker@deutschepost.de on Thu, Jan 03, 2002 at 09:57:44AM +0100 X-listar-version: Listar v0.129a Sender: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Errors-to: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org X-original-sender: lauri.pesonen@firsthop.com Precedence: bulk X-list: linux-dvb On Thu, Jan 03, 2002 at 09:57:44AM +0100, Rienecker, Fa. Evenio, ITS P, M wrote: > Hello, > even more interesting would be: > The DVB-C provides a 10-pin connector on the layout where we would expect > the J2 connector. But nobody has been able to find out if it is a J2 > connector, so far. Since Siemens provides almost anything on the external > connector you would need the J2 most probably only for an internal > connection e.g. for SPDIF. > I just wasn't brave enough to just try out. I have a TechnoTrend DVB-C card, so I don't have Siemens' external connector :( How should I go about finding out what the "J2" connector provides? > Greeting, > CR. -- Lauri -- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Thu Jan 03 10:25:29 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mhonarc@limes.convergence.de Received: (qmail 8090 invoked by uid 0); 3 Jan 2002 10:25:29 -0000 Received: from chambertin.convergence.de (212.84.236.2) by limes.convergence.de with SMTP; 3 Jan 2002 10:25:29 -0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=chambertin) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16M4vr-0002Jq-00; Thu, 03 Jan 2002 11:17:07 +0100 Received: with LISTAR (v0.129a; list linux-dvb); Thu, 03 Jan 2002 11:11:19 +0100 (MET) Received: from smtp.datacomm.ch ([212.40.5.52] helo=flu-smtp-01.datacomm.ch) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16M4qF-0001rJ-00 for ; Thu, 03 Jan 2002 11:11:19 +0100 Received: from [192.168.1.33] (adsl-96-120-glattbrugg1.tiscalinet.ch [212.254.96.120]) by flu-smtp-01.datacomm.ch (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g03AAuV05964; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 11:10:56 +0100 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: 11995169@pop.gmx.ch Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <019E7FD6783AD1119BA0400000363304EC21F6@MNPAH004.DeutschePost.de> References: <019E7FD6783AD1119BA0400000363304EC21F6@MNPAH004.DeutschePost.de> Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2002 11:10:52 +0100 To: "Rienecker, Fa. Evenio, ITS P, M" , linux-dvb@linuxtv.org From: Daniel Schneider Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: AW: DVB-C Rev.2.1 and J2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-listar-version: Listar v0.129a Sender: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Errors-to: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org X-original-sender: d.r.schneider@gmx.ch Precedence: bulk X-list: linux-dvb >even more interesting would be: >The DVB-C provides a 10-pin connector on the layout where we would expect >the J2 connector. But nobody has been able to find out if it is a J2 >connector, so far. Since Siemens provides almost anything on the external >connector you would need the J2 most probably only for an internal >connection e.g. for SPDIF. What "almost anything" does the Siemens Card (I guess you're talking about a new one, a Rev. 2.1, do you mean DVB-C or DVB-S?) provide on the external connector? RGB and S-Video (Y-C) output? Composite output is not worth talking about, the video quality suffers a lot when output over composite. Dany -- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Thu Jan 03 10:53:33 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mhonarc@limes.convergence.de Received: (qmail 17723 invoked by uid 0); 3 Jan 2002 10:53:33 -0000 Received: from chambertin.convergence.de (212.84.236.2) by limes.convergence.de with SMTP; 3 Jan 2002 10:53:33 -0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=chambertin) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16M5N2-0004oA-00; Thu, 03 Jan 2002 11:45:12 +0100 Received: with LISTAR (v0.129a; list linux-dvb); Thu, 03 Jan 2002 11:39:15 +0100 (MET) Received: from smtp.teuto.net ([212.8.197.13] helo=midgard.bi.teuto.net) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16LtPH-0003oO-00 for ; Wed, 02 Jan 2002 22:58:43 +0100 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by midgard.bi.teuto.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 444A27F4FC for ; Wed, 2 Jan 2002 22:58:47 +0100 (CET) Received: from softcell (A2192.pppool.de [213.6.33.146]) by midgard.bi.teuto.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 54C567F4AB for ; Wed, 2 Jan 2002 22:58:45 +0100 (CET) From: Ulrich Gierschner To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] script for generating /video/sub with symbolic links ? Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2002 00:42:08 +0100 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.1.99] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <02010300420804.09797@softcell> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Approved-By: dirk@convergence.de X-listar-version: Listar v0.129a Sender: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Errors-to: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org X-original-sender: dirk@convergence.de Precedence: bulk X-list: linux-dvb Hi ! I do want to solve the following thing: I ve my vdr linux box in the living room, connected by 100 MBit Ethernet = to=20 my server. In the vdr-box there is a 60 GB HDD which is - for daily and weekly=20 recording - big enough. But for archiving video data it is hence too small ... So I mounted via NFS a directory from my Server, let us call it /space. On /space/mpeg1 and /space/mpeg2 there are several Mpeg-Files (Named=20 Movie_Title.mpg). Until now, I mkdir'ed under /video another entry with a symbolic link to = any=20 of the mpeg files on /space/m* by hand. But this is boring, hence there a= re=20 about 200 Mpeg files ... Does anyone has created a script which is able to make the appropriate fi= les=20 under /video with automatic sym-links to another (video-)file ? My mainproblem is, the /video/MovieName/2001-12-03.21\:11.50.50.rec Subdi= r ?=20 How do I create this automatically ?=20 And the next Problem is, how to generate "index.vdr" "summary.vdr" (the = last=20 one could be empty, couldn't it ?) Thanks a lot in advance. BTW: A File Browser would be great in VDR :-) --=20 Bis denn, Ulrich www.kirchheide.de -- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Thu Jan 03 11:02:49 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mhonarc@limes.convergence.de Received: (qmail 22322 invoked by uid 0); 3 Jan 2002 11:02:48 -0000 Received: from chambertin.convergence.de (212.84.236.2) by limes.convergence.de with SMTP; 3 Jan 2002 11:02:49 -0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=chambertin) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16M5Vz-0005SX-00; Thu, 03 Jan 2002 11:54:27 +0100 Received: with LISTAR (v0.129a; list linux-dvb); Thu, 03 Jan 2002 11:51:21 +0100 (MET) Received: from mailout02.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.17]) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16M5QP-00055R-00 for ; Thu, 03 Jan 2002 11:48:41 +0100 Received: from fwd01.sul.t-online.de by mailout02.sul.t-online.de with smtp id 16M5QB-0007d3-0E; Thu, 03 Jan 2002 11:48:27 +0100 Received: from server.idefix.loc (520008132135-0001@[217.233.95.165]) by fmrl01.sul.t-online.com with esmtp id 16M5Q9-1rz3yaC; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 11:48:25 +0100 Received: (from idefix@localhost) by server.idefix.loc (8.11.6/8.11.4) id g03AmOC82707 for linux-dvb@linuxtv.org; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 11:48:24 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from idefix@server.idefix.loc) Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2002 11:48:24 +0100 From: Matthias Fechner To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: AW: DVB-C Rev.2.1 and J2 Message-ID: <20020103104824.GD79932@server.idefix.loc> Reply-To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Mail-Followup-To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org References: <019E7FD6783AD1119BA0400000363304EC21F6@MNPAH004.DeutschePost.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.24i X-Crypto: GnuPG/1.0.6 http://www.gnupg.org X-GnuPG: 0x1B756EF6 X-Sender: 520008132135-0001@t-dialin.net X-Approved-By: dirk@convergence.de X-listar-version: Listar v0.129a Sender: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Errors-to: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org X-original-sender: dirk@convergence.de Precedence: bulk X-list: linux-dvb Hello Daniel, * Daniel Schneider [03-01-02 11:10]: > the external connector? RGB and S-Video (Y-C) output? Composite > output is not worth talking about, the video quality suffers a lot > when output over composite. I have a haupauge DVB-s Card Rev 2.1. I use the composite output. I have also an normal DVB-S receiver and i compare the two pictures on a 32" TV. My opinion is, i can't see any qualitiy differences. -- Bye Matthias -- No attachments (even text) are allowed -- -- Type: application/pgp-signature -- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Thu Jan 03 11:25:21 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mhonarc@limes.convergence.de Received: (qmail 28139 invoked by uid 0); 3 Jan 2002 11:25:21 -0000 Received: from chambertin.convergence.de (212.84.236.2) by limes.convergence.de with SMTP; 3 Jan 2002 11:25:21 -0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=chambertin) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16M5ro-00082i-00; Thu, 03 Jan 2002 12:17:00 +0100 Received: with LISTAR (v0.129a; list linux-dvb); Thu, 03 Jan 2002 12:13:19 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail.toplink.net ([195.2.171.8]) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16M5eh-00071X-00 for ; Thu, 03 Jan 2002 12:03:27 +0100 Received: from ssk.schneiderkenzingen.de (extern.schneiderkenzingen.de.177.2.195.in-addr.arpa [195.2.177.81] (may be forged)) by mail.toplink.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA27946 for ; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 12:02:49 +0100 (CET) Received: by ssk.schneiderkenzingen.de with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 12:03:33 +0100 Message-ID: <3560BA143F45D5118E670000E82459211C6FE5@ssk.schneiderkenzingen.de> From: "Koch, Steffen" To: "'linux-dvb@linuxtv.org'" Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: AW: DVB-C Rev.2.1 and J2 Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2002 12:03:28 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Approved-By: dirk@convergence.de X-listar-version: Listar v0.129a Sender: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Errors-to: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org X-original-sender: dirk@convergence.de Precedence: bulk X-list: linux-dvb > * Daniel Schneider [03-01-02 11:10]: > > the external connector? RGB and S-Video (Y-C) output? Composite > > output is not worth talking about, the video quality suffers a lot > > when output over composite. > > I have a haupauge DVB-s Card Rev 2.1. > I use the composite output. > I have also an normal DVB-S receiver and i compare the two pictures on > a 32" TV. > > My opinion is, i can't see any qualitiy differences. are you using rgb-out of your dvb-s receiver?? -- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Thu Jan 03 11:33:47 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mhonarc@limes.convergence.de Received: (qmail 393 invoked by uid 0); 3 Jan 2002 11:33:47 -0000 Received: from chambertin.convergence.de (212.84.236.2) by limes.convergence.de with SMTP; 3 Jan 2002 11:33:47 -0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=chambertin) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16M5zx-0000TI-00; Thu, 03 Jan 2002 12:25:25 +0100 Received: with LISTAR (v0.129a; list linux-dvb); Thu, 03 Jan 2002 12:22:05 +0100 (MET) Received: from smtp.datacomm.ch ([212.40.5.52] helo=flu-smtp-01.datacomm.ch) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16M5wj-0008Sj-00 for ; Thu, 03 Jan 2002 12:22:05 +0100 Received: from [192.168.1.33] (adsl-96-120-glattbrugg1.tiscalinet.ch [212.254.96.120]) by flu-smtp-01.datacomm.ch (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g03BM4V28969 for ; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 12:22:04 +0100 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: 11995169@pop.gmx.ch Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <20020103104824.GD79932@server.idefix.loc> References: <019E7FD6783AD1119BA0400000363304EC21F6@MNPAH004.DeutschePost.de> <20020103104824.GD79932@server.idefix.loc> Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2002 12:21:53 +0100 To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org From: Daniel Schneider Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: AW: DVB-C Rev.2.1 and J2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-listar-version: Listar v0.129a Sender: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Errors-to: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org X-original-sender: d.r.schneider@gmx.ch Precedence: bulk X-list: linux-dvb Hello Matthias >* Daniel Schneider [03-01-02 11:10]: >> the external connector? RGB and S-Video (Y-C) output? Composite >> output is not worth talking about, the video quality suffers a lot >> when output over composite. > >I have a haupauge DVB-s Card Rev 2.1. >I use the composite output. >I have also an normal DVB-S receiver and i compare the two pictures on >a 32" TV. > >My opinion is, i can't see any qualitiy differences. Everyone who knows about video technology knows that there are quality problems when video is transported over one single output line, these can't be avoided other than by using two (S-Video, Y-C) or three (RGB or Component output) lines. Sorry, that's a physical fact. -- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Thu Jan 03 11:59:24 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mhonarc@limes.convergence.de Received: (qmail 6246 invoked by uid 0); 3 Jan 2002 11:59:24 -0000 Received: from chambertin.convergence.de (212.84.236.2) by limes.convergence.de with SMTP; 3 Jan 2002 11:59:24 -0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=chambertin) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16M6Ol-0002oV-00; Thu, 03 Jan 2002 12:51:03 +0100 Received: with LISTAR (v0.129a; list linux-dvb); Thu, 03 Jan 2002 12:47:14 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail.gmx.net ([213.165.64.20]) by chambertin.convergence.de with smtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16M6L4-0002WX-00 for ; Thu, 03 Jan 2002 12:47:14 +0100 Received: (qmail 17673 invoked by uid 0); 3 Jan 2002 11:47:04 -0000 Received: from pd9eb754b.dip.t-dialin.net (HELO gmx.de) (217.235.117.75) by mail.gmx.net (mp011-rz3) with SMTP; 3 Jan 2002 11:47:04 -0000 Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2002 12:46:44 +0100 From: Axel Gruber Reply-To: Axel Gruber To: ug@teuto.de Cc: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: script for generating /video/sub with symbolic links ? X-Mailer: Axel Gruber's registered AK-Mail 3.0b [ger] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: X-listar-version: Listar v0.129a Sender: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Errors-to: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org X-original-sender: axelgruber2@gmx.de Precedence: bulk X-list: linux-dvb First: I think this should be in VDR mailing-List... > Does anyone has created a script which is able to make the appropriate > files > under /video with automatic sym-links to another (video-)file ? > My mainproblem is, the /video/MovieName/2001-12-03.21\:11.50.50.rec Subd= ir > ? I understand your problem... > How do I create this automatically ? > And the next Problem is, how to generate "index.vdr" "summary.vdr" (the > last > one could be empty, couldn't it ?) Index can be created by a simple programm - look at the list-archive.. > BTW: A File Browser would be great in VDR :-) Some Time ago klaus sayed he want to add a hirarchical Recordings -Structu= re - so you can define aditional subdir=B4s that=B4s exact what you need... I have solved this problem by my own way: (this takes some time but it work=B4s in Background) first i cutt a movie and create the new file=20 so i get a movie-Entry wich begin with % then i start a scritp wich collect all 00x.vdr files from my /video0 /vieo= 1 /video.... to one=20 local temp directory - then i have exact the same directory-File-Structure= on my TEMP-DIR like at Video0 -. but all 00x.vdr files are in 1 Directory Then i can burn it to DVD - or save it to my SERVER-HD This is the step for you: I have mounted 2 NFS-Devices from my Server for example /max1 /max2 into a= local Directory called /colmax and this directory is linked into the /vid= eo0 Directory of my VDR All i have to do is to call a short scritp wich copy the TEMP-File to one = of this /max directorys and the solution is that i can watch all the movie= s... without any problem Same when i watch a movie recorded on DVD - i only mount DVD and link the = /DVD to /video0 - that=B4s all... The only important thing is that all 00x.vdr files are in 1 Directory... CU Axel -- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Thu Jan 03 12:07:01 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mhonarc@limes.convergence.de Received: (qmail 10550 invoked by uid 0); 3 Jan 2002 12:07:00 -0000 Received: from chambertin.convergence.de (212.84.236.2) by limes.convergence.de with SMTP; 3 Jan 2002 12:07:00 -0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=chambertin) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16M6W7-0003W5-00; Thu, 03 Jan 2002 12:58:39 +0100 Received: with LISTAR (v0.129a; list linux-dvb); Thu, 03 Jan 2002 12:55:48 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail.gmx.net ([213.165.64.20]) by chambertin.convergence.de with smtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16M6TM-0003Bs-00 for ; Thu, 03 Jan 2002 12:55:48 +0100 Received: (qmail 14106 invoked by uid 0); 3 Jan 2002 11:55:38 -0000 Received: from pd9eb754b.dip.t-dialin.net (HELO gmx.de) (217.235.117.75) by mail.gmx.net (mp004-rz3) with SMTP; 3 Jan 2002 11:55:38 -0000 Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2002 12:55:16 +0100 From: Axel Gruber Reply-To: Axel Gruber To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: AW: DVB-C Rev.2.1 and J2 X-Mailer: Axel Gruber's registered AK-Mail 3.0b [ger] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: X-listar-version: Listar v0.129a Sender: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Errors-to: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org X-original-sender: axelgruber2@gmx.de Precedence: bulk X-list: linux-dvb > I have a haupauge DVB-s Card Rev 2.1. > I use the composite output. > I have also an normal DVB-S receiver and i compare the two pictures on > a 32" TV. > My opinion is, i can't see any qualitiy differences. I also have tested the composite output of my D_BOX and i have switched b= etween=20 DBOX and DVB-S card - no difference.... Perhaps there are Differences if you use a Projector - but on my Panasoni= c 16:9 TV i don=B4t see anything.. -- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Thu Jan 03 12:27:37 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mhonarc@limes.convergence.de Received: (qmail 16083 invoked by uid 0); 3 Jan 2002 12:27:36 -0000 Received: from chambertin.convergence.de (212.84.236.2) by limes.convergence.de with SMTP; 3 Jan 2002 12:27:36 -0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=chambertin) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16M6q0-0005iq-00; Thu, 03 Jan 2002 13:19:12 +0100 Received: with LISTAR (v0.129a; list linux-dvb); Thu, 03 Jan 2002 13:15:55 +0100 (MET) Received: from [193.45.189.139] (helo=pcmsgroup.com) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16M6mp-0005Eh-00 for ; Thu, 03 Jan 2002 13:15:55 +0100 Received: from [192.168.161.55] (account john.williams@pcmsdatafit.co.uk HELO JohnW.pcmsdatafit.co.uk) by pcmsgroup.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.4.5) with ESMTP id 704119 for linux-dvb@linuxtv.org; Thu, 03 Jan 2002 12:34:41 +0000 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.1.20020103115929.009ec8b0@mail-host.pcmsgroup.com> X-Sender: John.Williams@pcmsdatafit.co.uk@mail-host.pcmsgroup.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Thu, 03 Jan 2002 12:09:50 +0000 To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org From: JohnW Subject: [linux-dvb] Original firmware Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-listar-version: Listar v0.129a Sender: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Errors-to: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org X-original-sender: John.Williams@pcmsdatafit.co.uk Precedence: bulk X-list: linux-dvb Hello everyone, I've had some problems viewing encrypted programs; as an experiment, I've modified the drivers to work with the original Technotrend firmware, and this gives me much better results (I'm using an Irdeto CAM). Is anyone else interested in this modified code ? It's not (yet) in a fit state for general distribution, and I don't have the time to maintain it properly, but it might be of some use to people willing to experiment with it. John -- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Thu Jan 03 13:54:41 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mhonarc@limes.convergence.de Received: (qmail 13761 invoked by uid 0); 3 Jan 2002 13:54:41 -0000 Received: from chambertin.convergence.de (212.84.236.2) by limes.convergence.de with SMTP; 3 Jan 2002 13:54:41 -0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=chambertin) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16M8CJ-0005X2-00; Thu, 03 Jan 2002 14:46:19 +0100 Received: with LISTAR (v0.129a; list linux-dvb); Thu, 03 Jan 2002 14:43:28 +0100 (MET) Received: from [193.45.189.139] (helo=pcmsgroup.com) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16M89X-0005BP-00 for ; Thu, 03 Jan 2002 14:43:27 +0100 Received: from [192.168.161.55] (account john.williams@pcmsdatafit.co.uk HELO JohnW.pcmsdatafit.co.uk) by pcmsgroup.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.4.5) with ESMTP id 704334; Thu, 03 Jan 2002 14:02:17 +0000 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.1.20020103132409.009f4c20@mail-host.pcmsgroup.com> X-Sender: John.Williams@pcmsdatafit.co.uk@mail-host.pcmsgroup.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Thu, 03 Jan 2002 13:42:59 +0000 To: jpulz@frm2.tu-muenchen.de,linux-dvb@linuxtv.org From: JohnW Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: Original firmware In-Reply-To: References: <5.1.0.14.1.20020103115929.009ec8b0@mail-host.pcmsgroup.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-listar-version: Listar v0.129a Sender: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Errors-to: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org X-original-sender: John.Williams@pcmsdatafit.co.uk Precedence: bulk X-list: linux-dvb I've made some small modifications to the linux driver; basically I've just removed some stuff that the original firmware did not support and changed some of the constants in the header files. I have no way of modifying the firmware as I do not have access to the source code for it. Some of the code I've removed is the VDR stuff, so this is not working right now, although it can surely be fixed. Also tuning to encrypted channels needs either a small change to the tuning API. That's why I'm hesitant to issue this to people who would expect support from me that I can't give. The modified firmware that comes with the Linux driver has some extra features added, but I suppose that the CA support in it is not so good, perhaps because it was not so high on the developer's priorities. As there seems to be some interest, I'll set up a web site and put my code on it, unless anyone raises any legal objections. -- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Thu Jan 03 14:01:49 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mhonarc@limes.convergence.de Received: (qmail 18254 invoked by uid 0); 3 Jan 2002 14:01:49 -0000 Received: from chambertin.convergence.de (212.84.236.2) by limes.convergence.de with SMTP; 3 Jan 2002 14:01:49 -0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=chambertin) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16M8JD-000671-00; Thu, 03 Jan 2002 14:53:27 +0100 Received: with LISTAR (v0.129a; list linux-dvb); Thu, 03 Jan 2002 14:51:42 +0100 (MET) Received: from sampo-mail.karelia.ru ([195.161.9.201] helo=mail.sampo.ru) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16M8HR-0005pS-00 for ; Thu, 03 Jan 2002 14:51:38 +0100 Received: from serv-nt.kgok.murmansk.su (kgok.karelia.ru [195.161.38.210]) by mail.sampo.ru (8.11.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id g03Doof29115 for ; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 16:50:55 +0300 (MSK) Received: from bga.kgok.murmansk.su ([193.125.167.57]) by serv-nt.kgok.murmansk.su with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id ZALSM32K; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 16:50:48 +0300 Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2002 16:50:48 +0300 From: "Grigory Batalov" To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] duplicated pings Message-Id: <20020103165048.6eb57966.bga@kgok.murmansk.su> Organization: AO "Kovdorsky GOK" X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.6.5 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i586-alt-linux) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-listar-version: Listar v0.129a Sender: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Errors-to: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org X-original-sender: bga@kgok.murmansk.su Precedence: bulk X-list: linux-dvb Hi all! I have strange things with my DVB connection. When I ping proxy server I see: # ping gruik115.europeonline.net Warning: no SO_TIMESTAMP support, falling back to SIOCGSTAMP PING gruik115.europeonline.net (194.177.32.171) from 195.161.38.211 : 56(84) bytes of data. 64 bytes from gruik115.europeonline.net (194.177.32.171): icmp_seq=3 ttl=64 time=4.001 sec 64 bytes from gruik115.europeonline.net (194.177.32.171): icmp_seq=10 ttl=64 time=3.975 sec 64 bytes from gruik115.europeonline.net (194.177.32.171): icmp_seq=10 ttl=64 time=3.975 sec (DUP!) 64 bytes from gruik115.europeonline.net (194.177.32.171): icmp_seq=10 ttl=64 time=3.975 sec (DUP!) 64 bytes from gruik115.europeonline.net (194.177.32.171): icmp_seq=10 ttl=64 time=3.975 sec (DUP!) 64 bytes from gruik115.europeonline.net (194.177.32.171): icmp_seq=11 ttl=64 time=3.960 sec 64 bytes from gruik115.europeonline.net (194.177.32.171): icmp_seq=11 ttl=64 time=3.961 sec (DUP!) 64 bytes from gruik115.europeonline.net (194.177.32.171): icmp_seq=11 ttl=64 time=3.961 sec (DUP!) 64 bytes from gruik115.europeonline.net (194.177.32.171): icmp_seq=11 ttl=64 time=3.961 sec (DUP!) What can it be? Why packets are duplicated? Squid says, that connection is poor: 2002/01/03 16:44:14| TCP connection to 194.177.32.171/8080 succeeded 2002/01/03 16:46:28| TCP connection to 194.177.32.171/8080 failed 2002/01/03 16:46:58| TCP connection to 194.177.32.171/8080 succeeded 2002/01/03 16:47:44| TCP connection to 194.177.32.171/8080 failed 2002/01/03 16:47:45| TCP connection to 194.177.32.171/8080 failed 2002/01/03 16:47:58| TCP connection to 194.177.32.171/8080 failed 2002/01/03 16:48:13| TCP connection to 194.177.32.171/8080 failed 2002/01/03 16:48:28| TCP connection to 194.177.32.171/8080 failed 2002/01/03 16:48:28| TCP connection to 194.177.32.171/8080 failed Is this related to first problem? -- Batalov Grigory, computing engineer. -- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Thu Jan 03 14:12:06 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mhonarc@limes.convergence.de Received: (qmail 19006 invoked by uid 0); 3 Jan 2002 14:12:05 -0000 Received: from chambertin.convergence.de (212.84.236.2) by limes.convergence.de with SMTP; 3 Jan 2002 14:12:05 -0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=chambertin) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16M8TA-0007iH-00; Thu, 03 Jan 2002 15:03:44 +0100 Received: with LISTAR (v0.129a; list linux-dvb); Thu, 03 Jan 2002 15:01:52 +0100 (MET) Received: from ulima.unil.ch ([130.223.144.143]) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16M8RL-0007OO-00 for ; Thu, 03 Jan 2002 15:01:51 +0100 Received: by ulima.unil.ch (Postfix, from userid 500) id B337C44919; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 15:01:49 +0100 (CET) Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2002 15:01:49 +0100 From: Gregoire Favre To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] How to test if the channel was right tuned? Message-ID: <20020103150149.A20368@ulima.unil.ch> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.22.1i X-listar-version: Listar v0.129a Sender: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Errors-to: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org X-original-sender: greg@ulima.unil.ch Precedence: bulk X-list: linux-dvb Hello, I use a really small script the make reload the driver till my CA are discovered, but about one time over two, I only got a black screen with no sound at all... Is there an easy way to test this (by a script way)? Thanks you very much, Grégoire ________________________________________________________________ http://ulima.unil.ch/greg ICQ:16624071 mailto:greg@ulima.unil.ch -- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Thu Jan 03 17:43:27 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mhonarc@limes.convergence.de Received: (qmail 25585 invoked by uid 0); 3 Jan 2002 17:43:27 -0000 Received: from chambertin.convergence.de (212.84.236.2) by limes.convergence.de with SMTP; 3 Jan 2002 17:43:27 -0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=chambertin) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16MBlf-0000WC-00; Thu, 03 Jan 2002 18:35:03 +0100 Received: with LISTAR (v0.129a; list linux-dvb); Thu, 03 Jan 2002 18:32:02 +0100 (MET) Received: from mailout01.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.80]) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16M7WE-00018U-00 for ; Thu, 03 Jan 2002 14:02:50 +0100 Received: from fwd10.sul.t-online.de by mailout01.sul.t-online.de with smtp id 16M7WE-00079Q-09; Thu, 03 Jan 2002 14:02:50 +0100 Received: from server.idefix.loc (520008132135-0001@[217.233.95.165]) by fmrl10.sul.t-online.com with esmtp id 16M7W5-05wCUCC; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 14:02:41 +0100 Received: (from idefix@localhost) by server.idefix.loc (8.11.6/8.11.4) id g03D2dF95853 for linux-dvb@linuxtv.org; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 14:02:39 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from idefix@server.idefix.loc) Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2002 14:02:39 +0100 From: Matthias Fechner To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: AW: DVB-C Rev.2.1 and J2 Message-ID: <20020103130239.GC93390@server.idefix.loc> Reply-To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Mail-Followup-To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org References: <019E7FD6783AD1119BA0400000363304EC21F6@MNPAH004.DeutschePost.de> <20020103104824.GD79932@server.idefix.loc> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.24i X-Crypto: GnuPG/1.0.6 http://www.gnupg.org X-GnuPG: 0x1B756EF6 X-Sender: 520008132135-0001@t-dialin.net X-Approved-By: dirk@convergence.de X-listar-version: Listar v0.129a Sender: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Errors-to: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org X-original-sender: dirk@convergence.de Precedence: bulk X-list: linux-dvb Hello Daniel, * Daniel Schneider [03-01-02 12:21]: > > Everyone who knows about video technology knows that there are > quality problems when video is transported over one single output > line, these can't be avoided other than by using two (S-Video, Y-C) > or three (RGB or Component output) lines. Sorry, that's a physical > fact. I know, that this is physical fact but i cannot see any differences. Maybe you can measure some differences, but the picturequality(which i see with my own eyes) is the same. Maybe can anyone else give here their expirience with Rev 2.1? -- Bye Matthias -- No attachments (even text) are allowed -- -- Type: application/pgp-signature -- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Thu Jan 03 17:43:27 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mhonarc@limes.convergence.de Received: (qmail 25591 invoked by uid 0); 3 Jan 2002 17:43:27 -0000 Received: from chambertin.convergence.de (212.84.236.2) by limes.convergence.de with SMTP; 3 Jan 2002 17:43:27 -0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=chambertin) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16MBlf-0000WB-00; Thu, 03 Jan 2002 18:35:03 +0100 Received: with LISTAR (v0.129a; list linux-dvb); Thu, 03 Jan 2002 18:32:01 +0100 (MET) Received: from mailout04.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.18]) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16M7gm-0001fw-00 for ; Thu, 03 Jan 2002 14:13:44 +0100 Received: from fwd06.sul.t-online.de by mailout04.sul.t-online.de with smtp id 16M7YV-0004qs-03; Thu, 03 Jan 2002 14:05:11 +0100 Received: from server.idefix.loc (520008132135-0001@[217.233.95.165]) by fmrl06.sul.t-online.com with esmtp id 16M7YU-10EpJgC; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 14:05:10 +0100 Received: (from idefix@localhost) by server.idefix.loc (8.11.6/8.11.4) id g03D58f95895 for linux-dvb@linuxtv.org; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 14:05:08 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from idefix@server.idefix.loc) Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2002 14:05:08 +0100 From: Matthias Fechner To: "'linux-dvb@linuxtv.org'" Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: AW: DVB-C Rev.2.1 and J2 Message-ID: <20020103130508.GD93390@server.idefix.loc> Reply-To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Mail-Followup-To: "'linux-dvb@linuxtv.org'" References: <3560BA143F45D5118E670000E82459211C6FE5@ssk.schneiderkenzingen.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3560BA143F45D5118E670000E82459211C6FE5@ssk.schneiderkenzingen.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.24i X-Crypto: GnuPG/1.0.6 http://www.gnupg.org X-GnuPG: 0x1B756EF6 X-Sender: 520008132135-0001@t-dialin.net X-Approved-By: dirk@convergence.de X-listar-version: Listar v0.129a Sender: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Errors-to: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org X-original-sender: dirk@convergence.de Precedence: bulk X-list: linux-dvb Hello Koch,, Maybe it is better two write you firstname and than your name? * Koch, Steffen [03-01-02 12:03]: > > My opinion is, i can't see any qualitiy differences. > are you using rgb-out of your dvb-s receiver?? I tried it with rgb and svhs over a very good scartcable, no difference(my tv support svhs). -- Bye Matthias -- No attachments (even text) are allowed -- -- Type: application/pgp-signature -- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Thu Jan 03 18:47:34 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mhonarc@limes.convergence.de Received: (qmail 18177 invoked by uid 0); 3 Jan 2002 18:47:33 -0000 Received: from chambertin.convergence.de (212.84.236.2) by limes.convergence.de with SMTP; 3 Jan 2002 18:47:33 -0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=chambertin) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16MClj-0005S5-00; Thu, 03 Jan 2002 19:39:11 +0100 Received: with LISTAR (v0.129a; list linux-dvb); Thu, 03 Jan 2002 19:36:36 +0100 (MET) Received: from warsl401pip7.highway.telekom.at ([195.3.96.115] helo=email01.aon.at) by chambertin.convergence.de with smtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16MCjE-00059z-00 for ; Thu, 03 Jan 2002 19:36:36 +0100 Received: (qmail 70372 invoked from network); 3 Jan 2002 18:36:05 -0000 Received: from m303p005.adsl.highway.telekom.at (HELO there) ([62.47.165.197]) (envelope-sender ) by qmail1.highway.telekom.at (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 3 Jan 2002 18:36:05 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" From: PSIplus Organization: NetPhoenix Message-Id: <200201031927.18586@psiplus.cjb.net> To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] WinTV Nova: Drivers working, but no Video Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2002 19:36:05 +0100 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.2] Author: PSIplus X-Errors-To: PSIplus URL: http://www.netphoenix.at MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-listar-version: Listar v0.129a Sender: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Errors-to: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org X-original-sender: psiplus@gmx.net Precedence: bulk X-list: linux-dvb Hi! I installed the Debian Driver-Sources and dvb-zapping packages, the Drive= r is=20 Working but tuxview isn't. Tuxview is crashing. Zapping and XawTV are showing only black screen. If = I=20 try to open /dev/ost/dvr0 in MPlayer or Xine, this apps are crashing. The card is working well, I tried it in Windows. But why isn't it running= in=20 GNU/Linux as well? I try since 24th of December to get it running, but it= =20 doesn't... Isn't there a USEFULL documentation for the drivers and the ap= ps? I required hours to find out how to use the channel list for tuxzap... So, Please help me getting started... I've a Debian Unstable on an Athlon 800, WinTV Nova set on Astra 19,2=B0 = E and=20 only want to watch TV... Thanx for ANY help... Martin PS: psiplus:~# lsmod | grep dvb dvb 231744 0 dvb_frontend 3040 0 [dvb] dvb_demux 13728 1 [dvb] saa7146_core 13312 0 [dvb saa7146_v4l] dmxdev 7732 1 [dvb] dvb_filter 6912 0 [dvb] videodev 4704 1 [dvb] dvb_net 2752 0 [dvb] dvbdev 1696 1 [dvb] i2c-core 12992 0 [dvb saa7146_core tuner stv0299 tda8083= =20 SP8870 L64781 VES1820 VES1893 i2c-proc i2c-dev tvmixer] --=20 --> PSIplus =20 --> ICQ... 57749465=20 --> Site... www.psiplus.org=20 --> Board... www.netphoenix.at=20 --> GnuPG Public Key... www.netphoenix.at/0/?loc=3D11 -- -- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Thu Jan 03 19:24:46 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mhonarc@limes.convergence.de Received: (qmail 28593 invoked by uid 0); 3 Jan 2002 19:24:46 -0000 Received: from chambertin.convergence.de (212.84.236.2) by limes.convergence.de with SMTP; 3 Jan 2002 19:24:46 -0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=chambertin) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16MDLl-0007ec-00; Thu, 03 Jan 2002 20:16:25 +0100 Received: with LISTAR (v0.129a; list linux-dvb); Thu, 03 Jan 2002 20:14:33 +0100 (MET) Received: from mailrelay.netcologne.de ([194.8.194.96]) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16MDJx-0007NK-00 for ; Thu, 03 Jan 2002 20:14:33 +0100 Received: from sheridan.metzler (dial-213-168-96-44.netcologne.de [213.168.96.44]) by mailrelay.netcologne.de (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g03JELN29276; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 20:14:21 +0100 (MET) Received: (from mocm@localhost) by sheridan.metzler (8.11.3/8.11.0/SuSE Linux 8.11.0-0.4) id g03JEHR28311; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 20:14:17 +0100 From: Message-ID: <15412.44425.605644.284588@sheridan.metzler> Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2002 20:14:17 +0100 (CET) To: PSIplus Cc: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] WinTV Nova: Drivers working, but no Video In-Reply-To: <200201031927.18586@psiplus.cjb.net> References: <200201031927.18586@psiplus.cjb.net> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid Reply-To: Marcus Metzler X-Face: X!$Vwl\?,AW_[zm^ej\MLxN>q;R?C_sRZ*XE4V;BGT28Ewyd\:TS')W'G#Dgay8ci$*{lEd 02(Nk0OndG\752U>lozmb_R1poDm6mgHm_4.}bdS0hh.`xGUI.X2x_50T9.?_v~.,QI*$2:Q=HV@>F IP6%l~E:T|w,X[eC;|YD(A9X'sS"r$l]g<4CjAm4|f7o0>6zGwUPLinP0.d=E+_%?4>0A9'esEZ=9h $#b[g*/q/g'GVj-hDc,+V_]1.H^N,1Bju,>5FZn"B Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 1.6) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-listar-version: Listar v0.129a Sender: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Errors-to: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org X-original-sender: mocm@convergence.de Precedence: bulk X-list: linux-dvb PSIplus writes: > Hi! > > I installed the Debian Driver-Sources and dvb-zapping packages, the Driver is > Working but tuxview isn't. > > Tuxview is crashing. Zapping and XawTV are showing only black screen. If I > try to open /dev/ost/dvr0 in MPlayer or Xine, this apps are crashing. > > The card is working well, I tried it in Windows. But why isn't it running in The Nova card needs a software MPEG2 decoder. The hardware only delivers the MPEG data. MPlayer and Xine cannot play the TS stream that comes from /dev/ost/dvr. Try "cat /dev/ost/dvr | ts2ps 0 0 | mplayer -" or the euivalent for xine, if possible. You may need to put the program buffer in that pipe. Marcus -- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Thu Jan 03 21:38:49 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mhonarc@limes.convergence.de Received: (qmail 9518 invoked by uid 0); 3 Jan 2002 21:38:49 -0000 Received: from chambertin.convergence.de (212.84.236.2) by limes.convergence.de with SMTP; 3 Jan 2002 21:38:49 -0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=chambertin) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16MFRM-0000Gv-00; Thu, 03 Jan 2002 22:30:20 +0100 Received: with LISTAR (v0.129a; list linux-dvb); Thu, 03 Jan 2002 22:30:08 +0100 (MET) Received: from warsl401pip7.highway.telekom.at ([195.3.96.115] helo=email03.aon.at) by chambertin.convergence.de with smtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16MFRA-0007sr-00 for ; Thu, 03 Jan 2002 22:30:08 +0100 Received: (qmail 254656 invoked from network); 3 Jan 2002 21:29:37 -0000 Received: from m303p005.adsl.highway.telekom.at (HELO there) ([62.47.165.197]) (envelope-sender ) by qmail3.highway.telekom.at (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 3 Jan 2002 21:29:37 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: PSIplus Organization: NetPhoenix Message-Id: <200201032222.25323@psiplus.cjb.net> To: Marcus Metzler Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: WinTV Nova: Drivers working, but no Video Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2002 22:29:37 +0100 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.2] References: <200201031927.18586@psiplus.cjb.net> <15412.44425.605644.284588@sheridan.metzler> In-Reply-To: <15412.44425.605644.284588@sheridan.metzler> Cc: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Author: PSIplus X-Errors-To: PSIplus URL: http://www.netphoenix.at MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-listar-version: Listar v0.129a Sender: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Errors-to: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org X-original-sender: psiplus@gmx.net Precedence: bulk X-list: linux-dvb Hi! > The Nova card needs a software MPEG2 decoder. The hardware only > delivers the MPEG data. MPlayer and Xine cannot play the TS stream > that comes from /dev/ost/dvr. > Try "cat /dev/ost/dvr | ts2ps 0 0 | mplayer -" or the euivalent for > xine, if possible. You may need to put the program buffer in that > pipe. Yeah, But my Problem is: There is nothing coming throught this device, no= t=20 even an unknown stream! psiplus:/etc/init.d# analyze /dev/ost/dvr analyze Reading /dev/ost/dvr If I want to analyze the Stream, it stopps... If I have tuxzap opened: psiplus:/etc/init.d# analyze /dev/ost/dvr analyze /dev/ost/dvr: Device or resource busy This error appears... I used the Astra-Channel list from "examples", but I don't think that's w= rong=20 (or is it?) -> dvbrc.astra -> ~/.dvbrc Do you know what's the Problem? Bye, Martin --=20 --> PSIplus =20 --> ICQ... 57749465=20 --> Site... www.psiplus.org=20 --> Board... www.netphoenix.at=20 --> GnuPG Public Key... www.netphoenix.at/0/?loc=3D11 -- -- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Thu Jan 03 22:21:31 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mhonarc@limes.convergence.de Received: (qmail 24178 invoked by uid 0); 3 Jan 2002 22:21:31 -0000 Received: from chambertin.convergence.de (212.84.236.2) by limes.convergence.de with SMTP; 3 Jan 2002 22:21:31 -0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=chambertin) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16MG6i-0002Va-00; Thu, 03 Jan 2002 23:13:04 +0100 Received: with LISTAR (v0.129a; list linux-dvb); Thu, 03 Jan 2002 23:12:51 +0100 (MET) Received: from dsl-212-23-11-245.zen.co.uk ([212.23.11.245] helo=exterminate.tv) by chambertin.convergence.de with smtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16MG6V-0002Rm-00 for ; Thu, 03 Jan 2002 23:12:51 +0100 Received: (qmail 2348 invoked from network); 3 Jan 2002 22:25:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lapdancer) (jon@192.168.0.16) by dsl-212-23-11-245.zen.co.uk with SMTP; 3 Jan 2002 22:25:07 -0000 From: "Jon Folland" To: "PSIplus" , "Marcus Metzler" Cc: Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: WinTV Nova: Drivers working, but no Video Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2002 22:10:30 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <200201032222.25323@psiplus.cjb.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Importance: Normal X-listar-version: Listar v0.129a Sender: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Errors-to: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org X-original-sender: jon@nativ.tv Precedence: bulk X-list: linux-dvb "Device or resource busy" is a common one and a problem I have had. I think it is a problem with a lack of system resources but I would be interested to hear anybody elses opinion! -----Original Message----- From: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org [mailto:linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org]On Behalf Of PSIplus Sent: 03 January 2002 21:30 To: Marcus Metzler Cc: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: WinTV Nova: Drivers working, but no Video Hi! > The Nova card needs a software MPEG2 decoder. The hardware only > delivers the MPEG data. MPlayer and Xine cannot play the TS stream > that comes from /dev/ost/dvr. > Try "cat /dev/ost/dvr | ts2ps 0 0 | mplayer -" or the euivalent for > xine, if possible. You may need to put the program buffer in that > pipe. Yeah, But my Problem is: There is nothing coming throught this device, not even an unknown stream! psiplus:/etc/init.d# analyze /dev/ost/dvr analyze Reading /dev/ost/dvr If I want to analyze the Stream, it stopps... If I have tuxzap opened: psiplus:/etc/init.d# analyze /dev/ost/dvr analyze /dev/ost/dvr: Device or resource busy This error appears... I used the Astra-Channel list from "examples", but I don't think that's wrong (or is it?) -> dvbrc.astra -> ~/.dvbrc Do you know what's the Problem? Bye, Martin -- --> PSIplus --> ICQ... 57749465 --> Site... www.psiplus.org --> Board... www.netphoenix.at --> GnuPG Public Key... www.netphoenix.at/0/?loc=11 -- -- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. -- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Thu Jan 03 22:56:40 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mhonarc@limes.convergence.de Received: (qmail 2527 invoked by uid 0); 3 Jan 2002 22:56:39 -0000 Received: from chambertin.convergence.de (212.84.236.2) by limes.convergence.de with SMTP; 3 Jan 2002 22:56:39 -0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=chambertin) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16MGeh-0004l3-00; Thu, 03 Jan 2002 23:48:11 +0100 Received: with LISTAR (v0.129a; list linux-dvb); Thu, 03 Jan 2002 23:47:58 +0100 (MET) Received: from mailrelay.netcologne.de ([194.8.194.96]) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16MGeU-0004hy-00 for ; Thu, 03 Jan 2002 23:47:58 +0100 Received: from sheridan.metzler (dial-213-168-72-97.netcologne.de [213.168.72.97]) by mailrelay.netcologne.de (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g03MlpN10559; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 23:47:51 +0100 (MET) Received: (from mocm@localhost) by sheridan.metzler (8.11.3/8.11.0/SuSE Linux 8.11.0-0.4) id g03MetB00988; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 23:40:55 +0100 From: Message-ID: <15412.56823.464707.924205@sheridan.metzler> Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2002 23:40:55 +0100 (CET) To: PSIplus Cc: Marcus Metzler , linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: WinTV Nova: Drivers working, but no Video In-Reply-To: <200201032222.25323@psiplus.cjb.net> References: <200201031927.18586@psiplus.cjb.net> <15412.44425.605644.284588@sheridan.metzler> <200201032222.25323@psiplus.cjb.net> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid Reply-To: Marcus Metzler X-Face: X!$Vwl\?,AW_[zm^ej\MLxN>q;R?C_sRZ*XE4V;BGT28Ewyd\:TS')W'G#Dgay8ci$*{lEd 02(Nk0OndG\752U>lozmb_R1poDm6mgHm_4.}bdS0hh.`xGUI.X2x_50T9.?_v~.,QI*$2:Q=HV@>F IP6%l~E:T|w,X[eC;|YD(A9X'sS"r$l]g<4CjAm4|f7o0>6zGwUPLinP0.d=E+_%?4>0A9'esEZ=9h $#b[g*/q/g'GVj-hDc,+V_]1.H^N,1Bju,>5FZn"B Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 1.6) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-listar-version: Listar v0.129a Sender: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Errors-to: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org X-original-sender: mocm@convergence.de Precedence: bulk X-list: linux-dvb PSIplus writes: > Hi! > > > The Nova card needs a software MPEG2 decoder. The hardware only > > delivers the MPEG data. MPlayer and Xine cannot play the TS stream > > that comes from /dev/ost/dvr. > > Try "cat /dev/ost/dvr | ts2ps 0 0 | mplayer -" or the euivalent for > > xine, if possible. You may need to put the program buffer in that > > pipe. > > Yeah, But my Problem is: There is nothing coming throught this device, not > even an unknown stream! > > psiplus:/etc/init.d# analyze /dev/ost/dvr > analyze > Reading /dev/ost/dvr > > If I want to analyze the Stream, it stopps... > If I have tuxzap opened: > psiplus:/etc/init.d# analyze /dev/ost/dvr > analyze > /dev/ost/dvr: Device or resource busy > > This error appears... > > I used the Astra-Channel list from "examples", but I don't think that's wrong > (or is it?) -> dvbrc.astra -> ~/.dvbrc > > Do you know what's the Problem? > You have to use the demux device to tell the driver which pids it is supposed to send to the dvr device. You can use ntuxzap -e, so that you always get the audio and video streams from the channel tuned by ntuzap send to the dvr device. Or you could read the documentation in the driver sources or on linuxtv.org and write your own program. Marcus -- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Thu Jan 03 23:16:39 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mhonarc@limes.convergence.de Received: (qmail 11674 invoked by uid 0); 3 Jan 2002 23:16:39 -0000 Received: from chambertin.convergence.de (212.84.236.2) by limes.convergence.de with SMTP; 3 Jan 2002 23:16:39 -0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=chambertin) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16MGy3-0006J2-00; Fri, 04 Jan 2002 00:08:11 +0100 Received: with LISTAR (v0.129a; list linux-dvb); Fri, 04 Jan 2002 00:08:00 +0100 (MET) Received: from warsl401pip7.highway.telekom.at ([195.3.96.115] helo=email02.aon.at) by chambertin.convergence.de with smtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16MGxs-0006Ez-00 for ; Fri, 04 Jan 2002 00:08:00 +0100 Received: (qmail 174710 invoked from network); 3 Jan 2002 23:07:29 -0000 Received: from m303p005.adsl.highway.telekom.at (HELO there) ([62.47.165.197]) (envelope-sender ) by qmail2.highway.telekom.at (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 3 Jan 2002 23:07:29 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: PSIplus Organization: NetPhoenix Message-Id: <200201040001.21202@psiplus.cjb.net> To: Marcus Metzler Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: WinTV Nova: Drivers working, but no Video Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2002 00:07:28 +0100 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.2] References: <200201031927.18586@psiplus.cjb.net> <200201032222.25323@psiplus.cjb.net> <15412.56823.464707.924205@sheridan.metzler> In-Reply-To: <15412.56823.464707.924205@sheridan.metzler> Cc: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Author: PSIplus X-Errors-To: PSIplus URL: http://www.netphoenix.at MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-listar-version: Listar v0.129a Sender: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Errors-to: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org X-original-sender: psiplus@gmx.net Precedence: bulk X-list: linux-dvb Hi! > You have to use the demux device to tell the driver which pids it is > supposed to send to the dvr device. You can use ntuxzap -e, so that > you always get the audio and video streams from the channel tuned by > ntuzap send to the dvr device. Or you could read the documentation in > the driver sources or on linuxtv.org and write your own program. Yeah... But what for me is confusing, that there is nothing coming thru t= his=20 device... not even a raw ts... Analyzer always is telling me the same: psiplus:~# analyze /dev/ost/dvr0 analyze Reading /dev/ost/dvr0 Stopping at "Reading"... I never get any Data from this device! Of course, if I only see ONE picture of TV in my GNU/Linux, I would code = a=20 whole TV-System ( ;-) ), but the only thing I've seen from my card in lin= ux=20 are error messages... Why isn't there anything coming thru the device? Martin --=20 --> PSIplus =20 --> ICQ... 57749465=20 --> Site... www.psiplus.org=20 --> Board... www.netphoenix.at=20 --> GnuPG Public Key... www.netphoenix.at/0/?loc=3D11 -- -- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Fri Jan 04 00:00:50 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mhonarc@limes.convergence.de Received: (qmail 25160 invoked by uid 0); 4 Jan 2002 00:00:49 -0000 Received: from chambertin.convergence.de (212.84.236.2) by limes.convergence.de with SMTP; 4 Jan 2002 00:00:49 -0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=chambertin) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16MHep-0008Td-00; Fri, 04 Jan 2002 00:52:23 +0100 Received: with LISTAR (v0.129a; list linux-dvb); Fri, 04 Jan 2002 00:52:12 +0100 (MET) Received: from mailrelay.netcologne.de ([194.8.194.96]) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16MHee-0008QS-00 for ; Fri, 04 Jan 2002 00:52:12 +0100 Received: from sheridan.metzler (dial-194-8-196-53.netcologne.de [194.8.196.53]) by mailrelay.netcologne.de (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g03Nq7N16520; Fri, 4 Jan 2002 00:52:08 +0100 (MET) Received: (from mocm@localhost) by sheridan.metzler (8.11.3/8.11.0/SuSE Linux 8.11.0-0.4) id g03NpiG02290; Fri, 4 Jan 2002 00:51:44 +0100 From: Message-ID: <15412.61072.652196.905094@sheridan.metzler> Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2002 00:51:44 +0100 (CET) To: PSIplus Cc: Marcus Metzler , linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: WinTV Nova: Drivers working, but no Video In-Reply-To: <200201040001.21202@psiplus.cjb.net> References: <200201031927.18586@psiplus.cjb.net> <200201032222.25323@psiplus.cjb.net> <15412.56823.464707.924205@sheridan.metzler> <200201040001.21202@psiplus.cjb.net> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid Reply-To: Marcus Metzler X-Face: X!$Vwl\?,AW_[zm^ej\MLxN>q;R?C_sRZ*XE4V;BGT28Ewyd\:TS')W'G#Dgay8ci$*{lEd 02(Nk0OndG\752U>lozmb_R1poDm6mgHm_4.}bdS0hh.`xGUI.X2x_50T9.?_v~.,QI*$2:Q=HV@>F IP6%l~E:T|w,X[eC;|YD(A9X'sS"r$l]g<4CjAm4|f7o0>6zGwUPLinP0.d=E+_%?4>0A9'esEZ=9h $#b[g*/q/g'GVj-hDc,+V_]1.H^N,1Bju,>5FZn"B Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 1.6) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-listar-version: Listar v0.129a Sender: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Errors-to: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org X-original-sender: mocm@convergence.de Precedence: bulk X-list: linux-dvb PSIplus writes: > > Why isn't there anything coming thru the device? > Do the following: 1) ntuxzap -e (I hope you have a .dvbrc file) 2) In ntuxzap look for e.g. n-tv, or any other FTA channel and select it by pressing return You will have use the cursor keys to move to the channel, so that you are sure you selected it. if you only type it, you may not select it correctly. 3) Use CTRL-Z to exit ntuxzap (NOT CTRL-C) or use a new terminal and type cat /dev/ost/dvr > file 4) ls -la file Has the file a length? Do all of that as root, so that you don't have any trouble with permissions. Marcus -- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Fri Jan 04 07:54:16 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mhonarc@limes.convergence.de Received: (qmail 23119 invoked by uid 0); 4 Jan 2002 07:54:16 -0000 Received: from chambertin.convergence.de (212.84.236.2) by limes.convergence.de with SMTP; 4 Jan 2002 07:54:16 -0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=chambertin) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16MP2x-0007NU-00; Fri, 04 Jan 2002 08:45:47 +0100 Received: with LISTAR (v0.129a; list linux-dvb); Fri, 04 Jan 2002 08:45:35 +0100 (MET) Received: from facade.firsthop.fi ([195.163.185.50] helo=factory.firsthop.fi) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16MP2l-0007KI-00 for ; Fri, 04 Jan 2002 08:45:35 +0100 Received: (from smile@localhost) by factory.firsthop.fi (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA00892 for linux-dvb@linuxtv.org; Fri, 4 Jan 2002 09:45:04 +0200 Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2002 09:45:04 +0200 From: Lauri Pesonen To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Tuning problem Message-ID: <20020104094504.B398@firsthop.com> Reply-To: lauri.pesonen@firsthop.com Mail-Followup-To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i X-listar-version: Listar v0.129a Sender: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Errors-to: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org X-original-sender: lauri.pesonen@firsthop.com Precedence: bulk X-list: linux-dvb Hi, I don't really expect to get an answer from this list, but I'm getting a little desperate... I got my two DVB-C cards the day before yesterday (one full-featured cards and one budget card). Since then I've been trying to tune the cards. First I tried with only the full-featured card installed. I used the SW that came with the card from TechnoTrend. I used QAM64 and 6.9M symbolrate. AFAIK, there are three bouquets with eight free and three pay-channels. The three bouquets should be on frequencies S18 - 20 (~280 - 295MHz). !! I'm not really sure about any of the paramaters (freqs, srate, QAM) !! The TT SW answers after each frequency with "No DVB signal". Does this mean that on that frequency there was no DVB signal or that there is no signal at all? There are no markings in the TT cards, so I'm assuming that the female connector is Input. About the linux stuff: I got the driver compiled and the modules load. I get an error message about the firmware into the system log (can't remember the exact frasing). I've tried using dtv_scan (added S18-20 to the config file), but it fails also. I laso compiled VDR successfully. It starts and says that it finds two DVB cards. I tried usinf the provided channels.conf.cable file, but the tuning obviously fails since the frquencies are wrong. The system log shows that VDR tries to tune the card to the channel, so I'm assuming that everything is OK with the cards regardless of the error message about the firmware. I'll get in touch with the cable company next ;) -- Lauri -- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Fri Jan 04 09:20:28 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mhonarc@limes.convergence.de Received: (qmail 21469 invoked by uid 0); 4 Jan 2002 09:20:28 -0000 Received: from chambertin.convergence.de (212.84.236.2) by limes.convergence.de with SMTP; 4 Jan 2002 09:20:28 -0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=chambertin) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16MQOM-0003hl-00; Fri, 04 Jan 2002 10:11:58 +0100 Received: with LISTAR (v0.129a; list linux-dvb); Fri, 04 Jan 2002 10:11:46 +0100 (MET) Received: from postfix2-1.free.fr ([213.228.0.9]) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16MQOA-0003e2-00 for ; Fri, 04 Jan 2002 10:11:46 +0100 Received: from imp2-1.free.fr (imp2-1.free.fr [213.228.0.22]) by postfix2-1.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D0F6CE for ; Fri, 4 Jan 2002 10:11:46 +0100 (CET) Received: by imp2-1.free.fr (Postfix, from userid 33) id 0CD505828E; Fri, 4 Jan 2002 10:11:46 +0100 (MET) To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] make insmod error 255 with driver 0.82 Message-ID: <1010135504.3c3571d0bd362@imp.free.fr> Date: Fri, 04 Jan 2002 10:11:44 +0100 (MET) From: pguiral@free.fr MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: IMP/PHP IMAP webmail program 2.2.42 X-Originating-IP: 62.147.39.31 X-listar-version: Listar v0.129a Sender: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Errors-to: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org X-original-sender: pguiral@free.fr Precedence: bulk X-list: linux-dvb Hello, lspci: 00:0b.0 Multimedia controller: Philips Semiconductors SAA7146 (rev 01) make insmod: sync ( \ insmod i2c-core.o; \ insmod videodev.o; \ insmod saa7146_core.o mode=0; \ insmod saa7146_v4l.o; \ insmod VES1893.o; \ insmod VES1820.o; \ insmod dmxdev.o; \ insmod dvb_demux.o; \ insmod dvb.o init_chan=2; \ insmod tuner.o; \ ifconfig dvb0 192.168.4.1; \ ) dvb.o: unresolved symbol ether_setup_Re236519b dvb.o: unresolved symbol unregister_netdev_Ra309c04a dvb.o: unresolved symbol init_etherdev_R9c000bfc dvb.o: unresolved symbol netif_rx_Rfda87314 dvb.o: unresolved symbol alloc_skb_Rf8ed06f1 dvb.o: unresolved symbol register_netdev_R66da844b dvb.o: unresolved symbol skb_over_panic_Raecad634 SIOCSIFADDR: Aucun périphérique de ce type dvb0: interface inconnue: Aucun périphérique de ce type make: *** [insmod] Error 255 I wonder if it's an hardware problem ? I have tried to find answer on the list, and found it's maybe a gcc version problem, but I have the version requested: Reading specs from /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i386-linux/2.95.2/specs gcc version 2.95.2 20000220 (Debian GNU/Linux) Thanks for any tips... Pierre. -- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Fri Jan 04 09:31:00 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mhonarc@limes.convergence.de Received: (qmail 25369 invoked by uid 0); 4 Jan 2002 09:30:59 -0000 Received: from chambertin.convergence.de (212.84.236.2) by limes.convergence.de with SMTP; 4 Jan 2002 09:30:59 -0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=chambertin) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16MQYa-0004QL-00; Fri, 04 Jan 2002 10:22:32 +0100 Received: with LISTAR (v0.129a; list linux-dvb); Fri, 04 Jan 2002 10:22:20 +0100 (MET) Received: from [193.45.189.139] (helo=pcmsgroup.com) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16MQYO-0004Lo-00 for ; Fri, 04 Jan 2002 10:22:20 +0100 Received: from [192.168.161.55] (account john.williams@pcmsdatafit.co.uk HELO JohnW.pcmsdatafit.co.uk) by pcmsgroup.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.4.5) with ESMTP id 705361 for linux-dvb@linuxtv.org; Fri, 04 Jan 2002 09:41:12 +0000 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.1.20020104091301.009edec0@mail-host.pcmsgroup.com> X-Sender: John.Williams@pcmsdatafit.co.uk@mail-host.pcmsgroup.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Fri, 04 Jan 2002 09:21:49 +0000 To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org From: JohnW Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: Original firmware Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-listar-version: Listar v0.129a Sender: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Errors-to: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org X-original-sender: John.Williams@pcmsdatafit.co.uk Precedence: bulk X-list: linux-dvb Hello everyone, I've put what I've done on http://www.geocities.com/badfish4321/index.html. This is probably just a temporary home for it until I sort out a more sensible URL ! I've got it working with an Irdeto CAM; I would be interested in hearing if anyone has any positive (or negative) experiences with other CAMS. At the moment it doesn't support recording. If I carry on with this, my next priority would be to add support for the CAM 'menu' so that you can re-configure it, enter PIN numbers and so on. John -- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Fri Jan 04 09:48:47 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mhonarc@limes.convergence.de Received: (qmail 31548 invoked by uid 0); 4 Jan 2002 09:48:47 -0000 Received: from chambertin.convergence.de (212.84.236.2) by limes.convergence.de with SMTP; 4 Jan 2002 09:48:47 -0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=chambertin) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16MQpn-0006Gp-00; Fri, 04 Jan 2002 10:40:19 +0100 Received: with LISTAR (v0.129a; list linux-dvb); Fri, 04 Jan 2002 10:40:06 +0100 (MET) Received: from warsl401pip7.highway.telekom.at ([195.3.96.115] helo=email03.aon.at) by chambertin.convergence.de with smtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16MQpa-0006CF-00 for ; Fri, 04 Jan 2002 10:40:06 +0100 Received: (qmail 190812 invoked from network); 4 Jan 2002 09:39:36 -0000 Received: from m303p005.adsl.highway.telekom.at (HELO there) ([62.47.165.197]) (envelope-sender ) by qmail3.highway.telekom.at (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 4 Jan 2002 09:39:36 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: PSIplus Organization: NetPhoenix Message-Id: <200201041037.4098@psiplus.cjb.net> To: Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: WinTV Nova: Drivers working, but no Video Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2002 10:39:35 +0100 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.2] Cc: Marcus Metzler , linux-dvb@linuxtv.org References: <200201031927.18586@psiplus.cjb.net> <200201040001.21202@psiplus.cjb.net> <15412.61072.652196.905094@sheridan.metzler> In-Reply-To: <15412.61072.652196.905094@sheridan.metzler> Author: PSIplus X-Errors-To: PSIplus URL: http://www.netphoenix.at MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-listar-version: Listar v0.129a Sender: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Errors-to: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org X-original-sender: psiplus@gmx.net Precedence: bulk X-list: linux-dvb Hi! > Do the following: > 1) ntuxzap -e (I hope you have a .dvbrc file) > 2) In ntuxzap look for e.g. n-tv, or any other FTA channel and select > it by pressing return You will have use the cursor keys to move to > the channel, so that you are sure you selected it. if you only type > it, you may not select it correctly. > 3) Use CTRL-Z to exit ntuxzap (NOT CTRL-C) or use a new terminal and ty= pe > cat /dev/ost/dvr > file > 4) ls -la file > > Has the file a length? > Do all of that as root, so that you don't have any trouble with > permissions. psiplus:/temp/forfile# ls -la file -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 4. J=E4n 10:36 file Zero bytes... Nothing is coming throught... But why? Martin --=20 --> PSIplus =20 --> ICQ... 57749465=20 --> Site... www.psiplus.org=20 --> Board... www.netphoenix.at=20 --> GnuPG Public Key... www.netphoenix.at/0/?loc=3D11 -- -- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Fri Jan 04 10:46:55 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mhonarc@limes.convergence.de Received: (qmail 19566 invoked by uid 0); 4 Jan 2002 10:46:55 -0000 Received: from chambertin.convergence.de (212.84.236.2) by limes.convergence.de with SMTP; 4 Jan 2002 10:46:55 -0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=chambertin) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16MRk1-0002X7-00; Fri, 04 Jan 2002 11:38:25 +0100 Received: with LISTAR (v0.129a; list linux-dvb); Fri, 04 Jan 2002 11:38:14 +0100 (MET) Received: from [203.197.38.34] (helo=rh7) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16MRjm-0002Ud-00 for ; Fri, 04 Jan 2002 11:38:12 +0100 Received: from rh7 (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rh7 (8.11.2/8.11.2) with SMTP id g04AhLu07477 for ; Fri, 4 Jan 2002 16:13:22 +0530 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Rohan Almeida Reply-To: rohanalmeida@it-om.com Organization: IT-OM Technologies Pvt. Ltd. To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Kiss Satdem linux Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2002 16:13:21 +0530 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <02010416132100.07471@rh7> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-listar-version: Listar v0.129a Sender: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Errors-to: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org X-original-sender: rohanalmeida@it-om.com Precedence: bulk X-list: linux-dvb hi, are there linux drivers available for Kiss satdem DVB cards??? -- arc_of_descent -- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Fri Jan 04 11:54:00 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mhonarc@limes.convergence.de Received: (qmail 8974 invoked by uid 0); 4 Jan 2002 11:53:59 -0000 Received: from chambertin.convergence.de (212.84.236.2) by limes.convergence.de with SMTP; 4 Jan 2002 11:53:59 -0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=chambertin) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16MSmz-0007va-00; Fri, 04 Jan 2002 12:45:33 +0100 Received: with LISTAR (v0.129a; list linux-dvb); Fri, 04 Jan 2002 12:45:22 +0100 (MET) Received: from mailrelay.netcologne.de ([194.8.194.96]) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16MSmo-0007u6-00 for ; Fri, 04 Jan 2002 12:45:22 +0100 Received: from sheridan.metzler (dial-194-8-195-234.netcologne.de [194.8.195.234]) by mailrelay.netcologne.de (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g04BjKN28134; Fri, 4 Jan 2002 12:45:20 +0100 (MET) Received: (from mocm@localhost) by sheridan.metzler (8.11.3/8.11.0/SuSE Linux 8.11.0-0.4) id g04Bj9I06951; Fri, 4 Jan 2002 12:45:09 +0100 From: Message-ID: <15413.38341.836731.638189@sheridan.metzler> Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2002 12:45:09 +0100 (CET) To: PSIplus Cc: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: WinTV Nova: Drivers working, but no Video In-Reply-To: <200201041037.4098@psiplus.cjb.net> References: <200201031927.18586@psiplus.cjb.net> <200201040001.21202@psiplus.cjb.net> <15412.61072.652196.905094@sheridan.metzler> <200201041037.4098@psiplus.cjb.net> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid Reply-To: Marcus Metzler X-Face: X!$Vwl\?,AW_[zm^ej\MLxN>q;R?C_sRZ*XE4V;BGT28Ewyd\:TS')W'G#Dgay8ci$*{lEd 02(Nk0OndG\752U>lozmb_R1poDm6mgHm_4.}bdS0hh.`xGUI.X2x_50T9.?_v~.,QI*$2:Q=HV@>F IP6%l~E:T|w,X[eC;|YD(A9X'sS"r$l]g<4CjAm4|f7o0>6zGwUPLinP0.d=E+_%?4>0A9'esEZ=9h $#b[g*/q/g'GVj-hDc,+V_]1.H^N,1Bju,>5FZn"B Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 1.6) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-listar-version: Listar v0.129a Sender: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Errors-to: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org X-original-sender: mocm@convergence.de Precedence: bulk X-list: linux-dvb PSIplus writes: > Hi! >=20 > > Do the following: > > 1) ntuxzap -e (I hope you have a .dvbrc file) > > 2) In ntuxzap look for e.g. n-tv, or any other FTA channel and select > > it by pressing return You will have use the cursor keys to move to > > the channel, so that you are sure you selected it. if you only type > > it, you may not select it correctly. > > 3) Use CTRL-Z to exit ntuxzap (NOT CTRL-C) or use a new terminal and type > > cat /dev/ost/dvr > file > > 4) ls -la file > > > > Has the file a length? > > Do all of that as root, so that you don't have any trouble with > > permissions. >=20 > psiplus:/temp/forfile# ls -la file > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 4. J=E4n 10:36 file >=20 > Zero bytes... Nothing is coming throught... But why? >=20 > Martin >=20 No idea. Did you try different channels? You could also try tuxzap. You may get more error messages than with ntuxzap. To activate the dvr output you have to press the penguin button. Marcus -- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Fri Jan 04 12:03:36 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mhonarc@limes.convergence.de Received: (qmail 13472 invoked by uid 0); 4 Jan 2002 12:03:35 -0000 Received: from chambertin.convergence.de (212.84.236.2) by limes.convergence.de with SMTP; 4 Jan 2002 12:03:35 -0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=chambertin) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16MSwH-0000Bl-00; Fri, 04 Jan 2002 12:55:09 +0100 Received: with LISTAR (v0.129a; list linux-dvb); Fri, 04 Jan 2002 12:54:57 +0100 (MET) Received: from warsl401pip7.highway.telekom.at ([195.3.96.115] helo=email01.aon.at) by chambertin.convergence.de with smtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16MSw5-00007v-00 for ; Fri, 04 Jan 2002 12:54:57 +0100 Received: (qmail 216060 invoked from network); 4 Jan 2002 11:54:26 -0000 Received: from m303p005.adsl.highway.telekom.at (HELO there) ([62.47.165.197]) (envelope-sender ) by qmail1.highway.telekom.at (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 4 Jan 2002 11:54:26 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: PSIplus Organization: NetPhoenix Message-Id: <200201041252.33476@psiplus.cjb.net> To: Marcus Metzler Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: WinTV Nova: Drivers working, but no Video Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2002 12:54:26 +0100 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.2] References: <200201031927.18586@psiplus.cjb.net> <200201041037.4098@psiplus.cjb.net> <15413.38341.836731.638189@sheridan.metzler> In-Reply-To: <15413.38341.836731.638189@sheridan.metzler> Cc: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Author: PSIplus X-Errors-To: PSIplus URL: http://www.netphoenix.at MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-listar-version: Listar v0.129a Sender: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Errors-to: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org X-original-sender: psiplus@gmx.net Precedence: bulk X-list: linux-dvb Hi! > No idea. Did you try different channels? > You could also try tuxzap. You may get more error messages than with > ntuxzap. To activate the dvr output you have to press the penguin > button. I don't know why, but it's running now... Okay, but I have problem with t= he=20 ts convertation... what's wrong with that: cat /dev/ost/dvr | ts2ps 0 0 | mplayer - or that: cat /dev/ost/dvr | ts2ps 0 0 | xine /dev/stdin Is there a need to put something in this pipe? Of course, thanx for your help! Martin --=20 --> PSIplus =20 --> ICQ... 57749465=20 --> Site... www.psiplus.org=20 --> Board... www.netphoenix.at=20 --> GnuPG Public Key... www.netphoenix.at/0/?loc=3D11 -- -- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Fri Jan 04 12:14:58 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mhonarc@limes.convergence.de Received: (qmail 14513 invoked by uid 0); 4 Jan 2002 12:14:58 -0000 Received: from chambertin.convergence.de (212.84.236.2) by limes.convergence.de with SMTP; 4 Jan 2002 12:14:58 -0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=chambertin) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16MT7G-0001qF-00; Fri, 04 Jan 2002 13:06:31 +0100 Received: with LISTAR (v0.129a; list linux-dvb); Fri, 04 Jan 2002 13:06:17 +0100 (MET) Received: from warsl401pip7.highway.telekom.at ([195.3.96.115] helo=email01.aon.at) by chambertin.convergence.de with smtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16MT73-0001fA-00 for ; Fri, 04 Jan 2002 13:06:17 +0100 Received: (qmail 361728 invoked from network); 4 Jan 2002 12:05:47 -0000 Received: from m303p005.adsl.highway.telekom.at (HELO there) ([62.47.165.197]) (envelope-sender ) by qmail1.highway.telekom.at (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 4 Jan 2002 12:05:47 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" From: PSIplus Organization: NetPhoenix Message-Id: <200201041303.35600@psiplus.cjb.net> To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: WinTV Nova: Drivers working, but no Video Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2002 13:05:46 +0100 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.2] Cc: Marcus Metzler Author: PSIplus X-Errors-To: PSIplus URL: http://www.netphoenix.at MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-listar-version: Listar v0.129a Sender: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Errors-to: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org X-original-sender: psiplus@gmx.net Precedence: bulk X-list: linux-dvb Hi! Additional Info: If I record the Stream: cat /dev/ost/dvr | ts2ps 0 0 > test.mpg The video quality is low... nearby the whole screen is green, no sound, e= tc... Pardon for one more question, but i promise, if I get this thing running = I'll=20 code a DVB-WinTV Nova-Plugin for XINE ;-) Martin --=20 --> PSIplus =20 --> ICQ... 57749465=20 --> Site... www.psiplus.org=20 --> Board... www.netphoenix.at=20 --> GnuPG Public Key... www.netphoenix.at/0/?loc=3D11 -- -- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Fri Jan 04 12:37:16 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mhonarc@limes.convergence.de Received: (qmail 24541 invoked by uid 0); 4 Jan 2002 12:37:15 -0000 Received: from chambertin.convergence.de (212.84.236.2) by limes.convergence.de with SMTP; 4 Jan 2002 12:37:15 -0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=chambertin) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16MTSq-0003Cg-00; Fri, 04 Jan 2002 13:28:48 +0100 Received: with LISTAR (v0.129a; list linux-dvb); Fri, 04 Jan 2002 13:28:36 +0100 (MET) Received: from mailrelay.netcologne.de ([194.8.194.96]) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16MTSd-000391-00 for ; Fri, 04 Jan 2002 13:28:35 +0100 Received: from sheridan.metzler (dial-194-8-195-234.netcologne.de [194.8.195.234]) by mailrelay.netcologne.de (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g04CRTN11735; Fri, 4 Jan 2002 13:27:29 +0100 (MET) Received: (from mocm@localhost) by sheridan.metzler (8.11.3/8.11.0/SuSE Linux 8.11.0-0.4) id g04CQ9f07313; Fri, 4 Jan 2002 13:26:09 +0100 From: Message-ID: <15413.40801.765705.859354@sheridan.metzler> Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2002 13:26:09 +0100 (CET) To: PSIplus Cc: Marcus Metzler , linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: WinTV Nova: Drivers working, but no Video In-Reply-To: <200201041252.33476@psiplus.cjb.net> References: <200201031927.18586@psiplus.cjb.net> <200201041037.4098@psiplus.cjb.net> <15413.38341.836731.638189@sheridan.metzler> <200201041252.33476@psiplus.cjb.net> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid Reply-To: Marcus Metzler X-Face: X!$Vwl\?,AW_[zm^ej\MLxN>q;R?C_sRZ*XE4V;BGT28Ewyd\:TS')W'G#Dgay8ci$*{lEd 02(Nk0OndG\752U>lozmb_R1poDm6mgHm_4.}bdS0hh.`xGUI.X2x_50T9.?_v~.,QI*$2:Q=HV@>F IP6%l~E:T|w,X[eC;|YD(A9X'sS"r$l]g<4CjAm4|f7o0>6zGwUPLinP0.d=E+_%?4>0A9'esEZ=9h $#b[g*/q/g'GVj-hDc,+V_]1.H^N,1Bju,>5FZn"B Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 1.6) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-listar-version: Listar v0.129a Sender: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Errors-to: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org X-original-sender: mocm@convergence.de Precedence: bulk X-list: linux-dvb PSIplus writes: > Hi! > > > No idea. Did you try different channels? > > You could also try tuxzap. You may get more error messages than with > > ntuxzap. To activate the dvr output you have to press the penguin > > button. > > I don't know why, but it's running now... Okay, but I have problem with the > ts convertation... what's wrong with that: > cat /dev/ost/dvr | ts2ps 0 0 | mplayer - > or that: > cat /dev/ost/dvr | ts2ps 0 0 | xine /dev/stdin > > Is there a need to put something in this pipe? > > Of course, thanx for your help! > Since all this is mostly unbuffered it may be necessary to use a buffering program like buffer in that pipe, but I don't have much experience with that. I think some people on the list have played around with that a lot more than I have. You can also try ts2ps /dev/ost/dvr 0 0 | buffer |mplayer - or without buffer. I just made some improvement to ts2ps and checked them into the public CVS. Marcus -- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Fri Jan 04 12:51:41 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mhonarc@limes.convergence.de Received: (qmail 29445 invoked by uid 0); 4 Jan 2002 12:51:40 -0000 Received: from chambertin.convergence.de (212.84.236.2) by limes.convergence.de with SMTP; 4 Jan 2002 12:51:40 -0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=chambertin) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16MTgk-00050z-00; Fri, 04 Jan 2002 13:43:10 +0100 Received: with LISTAR (v0.129a; list linux-dvb); Fri, 04 Jan 2002 13:42:58 +0100 (MET) Received: from mailrelay.netcologne.de ([194.8.194.96]) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16MTgY-0004xM-00 for ; Fri, 04 Jan 2002 13:42:58 +0100 Received: from sheridan.metzler (dial-194-8-195-234.netcologne.de [194.8.195.234]) by mailrelay.netcologne.de (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g04CgiN16928; Fri, 4 Jan 2002 13:42:45 +0100 (MET) Received: (from mocm@localhost) by sheridan.metzler (8.11.3/8.11.0/SuSE Linux 8.11.0-0.4) id g04CgR907466; Fri, 4 Jan 2002 13:42:27 +0100 From: Message-ID: <15413.41779.55264.780316@sheridan.metzler> Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2002 13:42:27 +0100 (CET) To: PSIplus Cc: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org, Marcus Metzler Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: WinTV Nova: Drivers working, but no Video In-Reply-To: <200201041303.35600@psiplus.cjb.net> References: <200201041303.35600@psiplus.cjb.net> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid Reply-To: Marcus Metzler X-Face: X!$Vwl\?,AW_[zm^ej\MLxN>q;R?C_sRZ*XE4V;BGT28Ewyd\:TS')W'G#Dgay8ci$*{lEd 02(Nk0OndG\752U>lozmb_R1poDm6mgHm_4.}bdS0hh.`xGUI.X2x_50T9.?_v~.,QI*$2:Q=HV@>F IP6%l~E:T|w,X[eC;|YD(A9X'sS"r$l]g<4CjAm4|f7o0>6zGwUPLinP0.d=E+_%?4>0A9'esEZ=9h $#b[g*/q/g'GVj-hDc,+V_]1.H^N,1Bju,>5FZn"B Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 1.6) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-listar-version: Listar v0.129a Sender: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Errors-to: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org X-original-sender: mocm@convergence.de Precedence: bulk X-list: linux-dvb PSIplus writes: > Hi! > > Additional Info: > If I record the Stream: > cat /dev/ost/dvr | ts2ps 0 0 > test.mpg > The video quality is low... nearby the whole screen is green, no sound, etc... Did you test the file with mplayer or xine. mplayer has no problems with my files, but xine has no sound and hangs at the end. If you have blockiness or similar distortions, you may have tuning problems. Maybe you need to edit your .dvbrc file. You can also use dvb_tune from linuxstb.org to create an XML .dvbtc file which can also be read by (n)tuxzap. To be sure there is no other problem, try to do everything by hand without pipes, e.g. cat /dev/ost/dvr > file.ts ts2ps file.ts 0 0 > file.mpg etc. Marcus -- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Fri Jan 04 12:56:00 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mhonarc@limes.convergence.de Received: (qmail 29855 invoked by uid 0); 4 Jan 2002 12:55:59 -0000 Received: from chambertin.convergence.de (212.84.236.2) by limes.convergence.de with SMTP; 4 Jan 2002 12:56:00 -0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=chambertin) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16MTkx-0005NU-00; Fri, 04 Jan 2002 13:47:31 +0100 Received: with LISTAR (v0.129a; list linux-dvb); Fri, 04 Jan 2002 13:47:20 +0100 (MET) Received: from tartarus.telenet-ops.be ([195.130.132.34]) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16MTkm-0005Ky-00 for ; Fri, 04 Jan 2002 13:47:20 +0100 Received: from democritus.net (D576519A.kabel.telenet.be [213.118.81.154]) by tartarus.telenet-ops.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56DC621728B for ; Fri, 4 Jan 2002 13:47:16 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <3C35A454.7080500@democritus.net> Date: Fri, 04 Jan 2002 13:47:16 +0100 From: Paul Adriaenssens User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux 2.4.2-2 i686; en-US; 0.7) Gecko/20010316 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Resource temporarily unavailable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-listar-version: Listar v0.129a Sender: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Errors-to: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org X-original-sender: paul.adriaenssens@democritus.net Precedence: bulk X-list: linux-dvb We are using a Hauppauge WinTV-NOVA satellite card (model 541) to test the reception of multicast data which is sent by our own IP-gateway in an endless loop. In order to receive and decode the data we use a java program which opens a MulticastSocket on the correct port of the dvb0_0 interface and receives the DatagramPackets from it. This process runs continuously to test the stability of the driver and our own FEC decoding software. It can run without any problem for several hours, even days, receiving all transmitted bytes, and then suddenly we get several of the following errors: java.net.SocketException: Resource temporarily unavailable at java.net.PlainDatagramSocketImpl.receive(Native Method) at java.net.DatagramSocket.receive(DatagramSocket.java:672) When this SocketException occurs, all bytes of the DatagramPacket get lost! We can't find any dvb kernel messages in /var/log/messages and we figured out that there is no correlation with the SNR or BER (even with BER=0 errors occured). Has anybody else stress tested the dvb API for multicast data reception by one of the dvb0_* interfaces? Do we need to "retune" de dvb card from time to time with "ntuxzap -c" or "szap -n" to avoid long uptime problems? Can we get more logging from the dvb API to get more details about the reason for this problem? We are using siemens_dvb-0.9.3 and Linux 2.4.9-13. Thanks, Paul -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [linux-dvb] Resource temporarily unavailable Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2001 14:51:07 -0000 From: "Jon Folland" To: Has anybody come across the "Resource temporarily unavailable" error when reading from a demux device? I can open the device and set a PES or section filter successfully. However calling read() gives the above error. Anybody know how to remedy this without having to buy a new PC? I am using a Hauppage WinTV-NOVA model 541 satellite card. -- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Fri Jan 04 13:05:18 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mhonarc@limes.convergence.de Received: (qmail 2044 invoked by uid 0); 4 Jan 2002 13:05:17 -0000 Received: from chambertin.convergence.de (212.84.236.2) by limes.convergence.de with SMTP; 4 Jan 2002 13:05:17 -0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=chambertin) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16MTtv-00064L-00; Fri, 04 Jan 2002 13:56:47 +0100 Received: with LISTAR (v0.129a; list linux-dvb); Fri, 04 Jan 2002 13:56:34 +0100 (MET) Received: from dsl-212-23-11-245.zen.co.uk ([212.23.11.245] helo=exterminate.tv) by chambertin.convergence.de with smtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16MTti-00060M-00 for ; Fri, 04 Jan 2002 13:56:34 +0100 Received: (qmail 7043 invoked from network); 4 Jan 2002 13:08:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lapdancer) (jon@192.168.0.16) by dsl-212-23-11-245.zen.co.uk with SMTP; 4 Jan 2002 13:08:57 -0000 From: "Jon Folland" To: "Paul Adriaenssens" , Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: Resource temporarily unavailable Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2002 12:54:11 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <3C35A454.7080500@democritus.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Importance: Normal X-listar-version: Listar v0.129a Sender: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Errors-to: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org X-original-sender: jon@nativ.tv Precedence: bulk X-list: linux-dvb What spec PC are you using? I think it is related to system resources rather than any particular bug. It happens to me from time to time. This error seems to be thrown by the driver when if finds that its buffer has not been written to by the device. I think it basically spin locks, waiting for something to be written. Although I could be wrong. If nothing has been written and it is not set to block it simply throws an error. Check the function DmxDevBufferRead(), below extracted from dmxdev.c: The -EWOULDBLOCK error code is causing the "Resource temporarily unavailable" error and it is thrown in the piece of code I have extracted from that function. ..... if (non_blocking && (src->pwrite==src->pread)){ return -EWOULDBLOCK; ..... }-----Original Message----- From: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org [mailto:linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org]On Behalf Of Paul Adriaenssens Sent: 04 January 2002 12:47 To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Resource temporarily unavailable We are using a Hauppauge WinTV-NOVA satellite card (model 541) to test the reception of multicast data which is sent by our own IP-gateway in an endless loop. In order to receive and decode the data we use a java program which opens a MulticastSocket on the correct port of the dvb0_0 interface and receives the DatagramPackets from it. This process runs continuously to test the stability of the driver and our own FEC decoding software. It can run without any problem for several hours, even days, receiving all transmitted bytes, and then suddenly we get several of the following errors: java.net.SocketException: Resource temporarily unavailable at java.net.PlainDatagramSocketImpl.receive(Native Method) at java.net.DatagramSocket.receive(DatagramSocket.java:672) When this SocketException occurs, all bytes of the DatagramPacket get lost! We can't find any dvb kernel messages in /var/log/messages and we figured out that there is no correlation with the SNR or BER (even with BER=0 errors occured). Has anybody else stress tested the dvb API for multicast data reception by one of the dvb0_* interfaces? Do we need to "retune" de dvb card from time to time with "ntuxzap -c" or "szap -n" to avoid long uptime problems? Can we get more logging from the dvb API to get more details about the reason for this problem? We are using siemens_dvb-0.9.3 and Linux 2.4.9-13. Thanks, Paul -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [linux-dvb] Resource temporarily unavailable Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2001 14:51:07 -0000 From: "Jon Folland" To: Has anybody come across the "Resource temporarily unavailable" error when reading from a demux device? I can open the device and set a PES or section filter successfully. However calling read() gives the above error. Anybody know how to remedy this without having to buy a new PC? I am using a Hauppage WinTV-NOVA model 541 satellite card. -- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. -- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Fri Jan 04 13:38:58 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mhonarc@limes.convergence.de Received: (qmail 12124 invoked by uid 0); 4 Jan 2002 13:38:57 -0000 Received: from chambertin.convergence.de (212.84.236.2) by limes.convergence.de with SMTP; 4 Jan 2002 13:38:57 -0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=chambertin) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16MUQa-0001Mz-00; Fri, 04 Jan 2002 14:30:32 +0100 Received: with LISTAR (v0.129a; list linux-dvb); Fri, 04 Jan 2002 14:30:19 +0100 (MET) Received: from eos.telenet-ops.be ([195.130.132.40]) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16MTeY-0004pd-00 for ; Fri, 04 Jan 2002 13:40:54 +0100 Received: from cast4all.com (D576519A.kabel.telenet.be [213.118.81.154]) by eos.telenet-ops.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D72B2039E; Fri, 4 Jan 2002 13:40:48 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <3C35A2D1.1070208@cast4all.com> Date: Fri, 04 Jan 2002 13:40:49 +0100 From: Paul Adriaenssens User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux 2.4.2-2 i686; en-US; 0.7) Gecko/20010316 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jon Folland , linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Cc: Bart De Gruyter Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: Resource temporarily unavailable References: <3C359217.1090806@democritus.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Approved-By: dirk@convergence.de X-listar-version: Listar v0.129a Sender: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Errors-to: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org X-original-sender: dirk@convergence.de Precedence: bulk X-list: linux-dvb We are using a Hauppauge WinTV-NOVA satellite card (model 541) to test the reception of multicast data which is sent by our own IP-gateway in an endless loop. In order to receive and decode the data we use a java program which opens a MulticastSocket on the correct port of the dvb0_0 interface and receives the DatagramPackets from it. This process runs continuously to test the stability of the driver and our own FEC decoding software. It can run without any problem for several hours, even days, receiving all transmitted bytes, and then suddenly we get several of the following errors: java.net.SocketException: Resource temporarily unavailable at java.net.PlainDatagramSocketImpl.receive(Native Method) at java.net.DatagramSocket.receive(DatagramSocket.java:672) When this SocketException occurs, all bytes of the DatagramPacket get lost! We can't find any dvb kernel messages in /var/log/messages and we figured out that there is no correlation with the SNR or BER (even with BER=0 errors occured). Has anybody else stress tested the dvb API for multicast data reception by one of the dvb0_* interfaces? Do we need to "retune" de dvb card from time to time with "ntuxzap -c" or "szap -n" to avoid long uptime problems? Can we get more logging from the dvb API to get more details about the reason for this problem? We are using siemens_dvb-0.9.3 and Linux 2.4.9-13. Thanks, Paul > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: [linux-dvb] Resource temporarily unavailable > Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2001 14:51:07 -0000 > From: "Jon Folland" > To: > > Has anybody come across the "Resource temporarily unavailable" error when > reading from a demux device? > I can open the device and set a PES or section filter successfully. However > calling read() gives the above error. > > Anybody know how to remedy this without having to buy a new PC? > > I am using a Hauppage WinTV-NOVA model 541 satellite card. -- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Fri Jan 04 15:50:43 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mhonarc@limes.convergence.de Received: (qmail 24572 invoked by uid 0); 4 Jan 2002 15:50:43 -0000 Received: from chambertin.convergence.de (212.84.236.2) by limes.convergence.de with SMTP; 4 Jan 2002 15:50:43 -0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=chambertin) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16MWU5-0001xb-00; Fri, 04 Jan 2002 16:42:17 +0100 Received: with LISTAR (v0.129a; list linux-dvb); Fri, 04 Jan 2002 16:42:06 +0100 (MET) Received: from [62.161.152.200] (helo=lava.jdcv.com) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16MWTu-0001v2-00 for ; Fri, 04 Jan 2002 16:42:06 +0100 Received: from karim.jdcv.com ([192.168.1.72]) by lava.jdcv.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id GPF7OB00.QHJ; Fri, 4 Jan 2002 16:43:23 +0100 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20020104162446.00a6d5a0@lava.jdcv.com> X-Sender: kamrani@lava.jdcv.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Fri, 04 Jan 2002 16:44:02 +0100 To: "Jon Folland" , "Paul Adriaenssens" , From: "Karim Amrani" Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: Resource temporarily unavailable In-Reply-To: References: <3C35A454.7080500@democritus.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-listar-version: Listar v0.129a Sender: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Errors-to: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org X-original-sender: kamrani@jdcv.com Precedence: bulk X-list: linux-dvb Hi there, I'm experiencing the 'Resource temporarily unavailable' problem too... (from time to time). I'm running some test software (reading for ever packets from a PID and thus, checking the broadcast is OK) on a linux box (RH 7.1/ kernel 2.4.10 / PIII 450 MHz / 64 Mo RAM). The test program writes nothing on the disk (no recording). I'm using a Hauppauge win TV DVB-S (second release) with driver version 0.9. In my case, the errno associated with the perror message 'Resource temporarily unavailable' is not EWOULDBLOCK but EAGAIN (value is 11). This 'bug' appears from time to time : the software can run for days without problems but sometimes it fails. I tried to stop my program and rerun it (it then sets again the parameters (frequency, pol, PID,...)) but the error is still there (not a single byte is read from now on). The only way I found (I did not look for long !) to get back to normal is to reboot the PC... If someone has a better solution... Does my configuration fall into the lower 'system ressources' category ? What are the critical ressources for that kind of usage (RAM, CPU,...) ? As I intend to put another DVB card into the same PC to survey 2 PIDs on 2 different satellites at the same time, I'd rather make sure my configuration is sufficient. Thanks in advance, Sincerely, Karim AMRANI At 13:54 04/01/02, Jon Folland wrote: >What spec PC are you using? I think it is related to system resources rather >than any particular bug. It happens to me from time to time. > >This error seems to be thrown by the driver when if finds that its buffer >has not been written to by the device. I think it basically spin locks, >waiting for something to be written. Although I could be wrong. If nothing >has been written and it is not set to block it simply throws an error. > >Check the function DmxDevBufferRead(), below extracted from dmxdev.c: > >The -EWOULDBLOCK error code is causing the "Resource temporarily >unavailable" error and it is thrown in the piece of code I have extracted >from that function. > > ..... > > if (non_blocking && (src->pwrite==src->pread)){ > return -EWOULDBLOCK; > > ..... > > > > > > }-----Original Message----- >From: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org >[mailto:linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org]On Behalf Of Paul Adriaenssens >Sent: 04 January 2002 12:47 >To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org >Subject: [linux-dvb] Resource temporarily unavailable > > >We are using a Hauppauge WinTV-NOVA satellite card (model 541) to test >the reception of multicast data which is sent by our own IP-gateway in >an endless loop. > >In order to receive and decode the data we use a java program which >opens a MulticastSocket on the correct port of the dvb0_0 interface and >receives the DatagramPackets from it. > >This process runs continuously to test the stability of the driver and >our own FEC decoding software. It can run without any problem for >several hours, even days, receiving all transmitted bytes, and then >suddenly we get several of the following errors: > >java.net.SocketException: Resource temporarily unavailable >at java.net.PlainDatagramSocketImpl.receive(Native Method) >at java.net.DatagramSocket.receive(DatagramSocket.java:672) > >When this SocketException occurs, all bytes of the DatagramPacket get >lost! We can't find any dvb kernel messages in /var/log/messages and we >figured out that there is no correlation with the SNR or BER (even with >BER=0 errors occured). > >Has anybody else stress tested the dvb API for multicast data reception >by one of the dvb0_* interfaces? >Do we need to "retune" de dvb card from time to time with "ntuxzap -c" >or "szap -n" to avoid long uptime problems? >Can we get more logging from the dvb API to get more details about the >reason for this problem? > >We are using siemens_dvb-0.9.3 and Linux 2.4.9-13. > >Thanks, > >Paul > >-------- Original Message -------- >Subject: [linux-dvb] Resource temporarily unavailable >Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2001 14:51:07 -0000 >From: "Jon Folland" >To: > >Has anybody come across the "Resource temporarily unavailable" error when >reading from a demux device? >I can open the device and set a PES or section filter successfully. However >calling read() gives the above error. > >Anybody know how to remedy this without having to buy a new PC? > >I am using a Hauppage WinTV-NOVA model 541 satellite card. > > > >-- >Info: >To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe >linux-dvb" as subject. > > > > >-- >Info: >To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe >linux-dvb" as subject. -- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Fri Jan 04 16:29:42 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mhonarc@limes.convergence.de Received: (qmail 2890 invoked by uid 0); 4 Jan 2002 16:29:42 -0000 Received: from chambertin.convergence.de (212.84.236.2) by limes.convergence.de with SMTP; 4 Jan 2002 16:29:42 -0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=chambertin) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16MX5o-0004TR-00; Fri, 04 Jan 2002 17:21:16 +0100 Received: with LISTAR (v0.129a; list linux-dvb); Fri, 04 Jan 2002 17:21:02 +0100 (MET) Received: from dial-195-14-233-65.netcologne.de ([195.14.233.65] helo=rjkm.de) by chambertin.convergence.de with TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168 encrypted esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16MX5Y-0004PQ-00 for ; Fri, 04 Jan 2002 17:21:01 +0100 Received: (from rjkm@localhost) by rjkm.de (8.12.0.Beta19/8.12.0.Beta19) id g04GKhFL002143; Fri, 4 Jan 2002 17:20:43 +0100 From: Ralph Metzler Message-ID: <15413.54874.833750.351005@gargle.gargle.HOWL> Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2002 17:20:42 +0100 To: "Karim Amrani" Cc: "Jon Folland" , "Paul Adriaenssens" , Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: Resource temporarily unavailable In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20020104162446.00a6d5a0@lava.jdcv.com> References: <3C35A454.7080500@democritus.net> <5.1.0.14.2.20020104162446.00a6d5a0@lava.jdcv.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.95 under 21.4 (patch 4) "Artificial Intelligence" XEmacs Lucid Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 1.8) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-listar-version: Listar v0.129a Sender: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Errors-to: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org X-original-sender: rjkm@convergence.de Precedence: bulk X-list: linux-dvb Karim Amrani writes: > I'm experiencing the 'Resource temporarily unavailable' problem too... > (from time to time). > > I'm running some test software (reading for ever packets from a PID and > thus, checking the broadcast is OK) on a linux box (RH 7.1/ kernel 2.4.10 / > PIII 450 MHz / 64 Mo RAM). The test program writes nothing on the disk (no > recording). > I'm using a Hauppauge win TV DVB-S (second release) with driver version 0.9. Which 0.9 version? Please also try the CVS release. The normal DVB-s (not the Nova) can easily stop transmitting section data if the data rate is too high and the internal buffers overflow. In newer firmwares I improved the recovery mechanism. > In my case, the errno associated with the perror message 'Resource > temporarily unavailable' is not EWOULDBLOCK but EAGAIN (value is 11). >From /usr/src/linux/include/asm/errno.h: #define EWOULDBLOCK EAGAIN /* Operation would block */ > This 'bug' appears from time to time : the software can run for days > without problems but sometimes it fails. I tried to stop my program and > rerun it (it then sets again the parameters (frequency, pol, PID,...)) but > the error is still there (not a single byte is read from now on). > > The only way I found (I did not look for long !) to get back to normal is > to reboot the PC... A driver reload does not help in your case? These comments are still for the non-Nova cards. Now regarding the Nova card questions: > At 13:54 04/01/02, Jon Folland wrote: > >What spec PC are you using? I think it is related to system resources rather > >than any particular bug. It happens to me from time to time. > > > >This error seems to be thrown by the driver when if finds that its buffer > >has not been written to by the device. I think it basically spin locks, > >waiting for something to be written. Although I could be wrong. If nothing > >has been written and it is not set to block it simply throws an error. > > > >Check the function DmxDevBufferRead(), below extracted from dmxdev.c: > > > >The -EWOULDBLOCK error code is causing the "Resource temporarily > >unavailable" error and it is thrown in the piece of code I have extracted > >from that function. > > > > ..... > > > > if (non_blocking && (src->pwrite==src->pread)){ > > return -EWOULDBLOCK; > > > > ..... > > > > If this causes the error then no more data seems to be coming from the hardware. > > > > > > }-----Original Message----- > >From: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org > >[mailto:linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org]On Behalf Of Paul Adriaenssens > >Sent: 04 January 2002 12:47 > >To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org > >Subject: [linux-dvb] Resource temporarily unavailable > > > > > >We are using a Hauppauge WinTV-NOVA satellite card (model 541) to test > >the reception of multicast data which is sent by our own IP-gateway in > >an endless loop. > > > >In order to receive and decode the data we use a java program which > >opens a MulticastSocket on the correct port of the dvb0_0 interface and > >receives the DatagramPackets from it. > > > >This process runs continuously to test the stability of the driver and > >our own FEC decoding software. It can run without any problem for > >several hours, even days, receiving all transmitted bytes, and then > >suddenly we get several of the following errors: > > > >java.net.SocketException: Resource temporarily unavailable > >at java.net.PlainDatagramSocketImpl.receive(Native Method) > >at java.net.DatagramSocket.receive(DatagramSocket.java:672) > > > >When this SocketException occurs, all bytes of the DatagramPacket get > >lost! We can't find any dvb kernel messages in /var/log/messages and we > >figured out that there is no correlation with the SNR or BER (even with > >BER=0 errors occured). What does "dmesg" say? Maybe there was an oops in the driver. Depending on your configuration this might not show up in /var/log/messages. > >Has anybody else stress tested the dvb API for multicast data reception > >by one of the dvb0_* interfaces? > >Do we need to "retune" de dvb card from time to time with "ntuxzap -c" > >or "szap -n" to avoid long uptime problems? > >Can we get more logging from the dvb API to get more details about the > >reason for this problem? Nope. I had a PC running for up to 4 weeks receiving a data stream and did not have to retune it. > >We are using siemens_dvb-0.9.3 and Linux 2.4.9-13. You definetely should also try a current CVS driver version. If you check the CVS logs you will see that I added a lot more sanity checks into the section reassembly code in DVB/driver/dvb_demux.c. Before these changes I also had the occasional segmentation violation in the driver due to data corruption during bad weather. Ralph -- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Fri Jan 04 16:31:02 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mhonarc@limes.convergence.de Received: (qmail 6864 invoked by uid 0); 4 Jan 2002 16:31:02 -0000 Received: from chambertin.convergence.de (212.84.236.2) by limes.convergence.de with SMTP; 4 Jan 2002 16:31:02 -0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=chambertin) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16MX79-0004iq-00; Fri, 04 Jan 2002 17:22:39 +0100 Received: with LISTAR (v0.129a; list linux-dvb); Fri, 04 Jan 2002 17:22:27 +0100 (MET) Received: from fe040.worldonline.dk ([212.54.64.205]) by chambertin.convergence.de with smtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16MWZO-0002L9-00 for ; Fri, 04 Jan 2002 16:47:46 +0100 Received: (qmail 32090 invoked by uid 0); 4 Jan 2002 15:47:16 -0000 Received: from 213.237.119.102.adsl.rdo.worldonline.dk (HELO isis) (213.237.119.102) by fe040.worldonline.dk with SMTP; 4 Jan 2002 15:47:16 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Allan Jacobsen Reply-To: allan.j@cobsen.dk Organization: film & Farver ApS To: Rohan Almeida , linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: Kiss Satdem linux Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2002 16:47:15 +0100 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] References: <02010416132100.07471@rh7> In-Reply-To: <02010416132100.07471@rh7> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <02010416471502.19683@isis> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Approved-By: dirk@convergence.de X-listar-version: Listar v0.129a Sender: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Errors-to: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org X-original-sender: dirk@convergence.de Precedence: bulk X-list: linux-dvb On Friday 04 January 2002 11:43, Rohan Almeida wrote: > hi, > are there linux drivers available for > Kiss satdem DVB cards??? > No, but last time I talked to them, they were talking of making one....... MVH Allan Jacobsen -- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Fri Jan 04 16:41:08 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mhonarc@limes.convergence.de Received: (qmail 7562 invoked by uid 0); 4 Jan 2002 16:41:08 -0000 Received: from chambertin.convergence.de (212.84.236.2) by limes.convergence.de with SMTP; 4 Jan 2002 16:41:08 -0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=chambertin) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16MXGt-00062S-00; Fri, 04 Jan 2002 17:32:43 +0100 Received: with LISTAR (v0.129a; list linux-dvb); Fri, 04 Jan 2002 17:32:31 +0100 (MET) Received: from dial-195-14-251-249.netcologne.de ([195.14.251.249] helo=rjkm.de) by chambertin.convergence.de with TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168 encrypted esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16MXGg-0005yH-00 for ; Fri, 04 Jan 2002 17:32:31 +0100 Received: (from rjkm@localhost) by rjkm.de (8.12.0.Beta19/8.12.0.Beta19) id g04GWKbg002166; Fri, 4 Jan 2002 17:32:20 +0100 From: Ralph Metzler Message-ID: <15413.55572.424797.457019@gargle.gargle.HOWL> Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2002 17:32:20 +0100 To: lauri.pesonen@firsthop.com Cc: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Tuning problem In-Reply-To: <20020104094504.B398@firsthop.com> References: <20020104094504.B398@firsthop.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.95 under 21.4 (patch 4) "Artificial Intelligence" XEmacs Lucid Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 1.8) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-listar-version: Listar v0.129a Sender: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Errors-to: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org X-original-sender: rjkm@convergence.de Precedence: bulk X-list: linux-dvb Hi, first something general about DVB-C problems mentiond before the holidays. I had a look at the driver and the applications last week. The DVB-C driver turned out to have no problem. But there was a bug in the libdvb which prevented old config files from being used correctly. That's why ntuxzap did not tune correctly. But this is fixed now and works fine. I can only test DVB-C with the Siemens DVB-C card. People with the Technotrend DVB-C card or the Nova DVB-C card still might have problems. Sorry, I cannot help you with this. Lauri Pesonen writes: > I don't really expect to get an answer from this list, but I'm getting a > little desperate... > > I got my two DVB-C cards the day before yesterday (one full-featured cards > and one budget card). Since then I've been trying to tune the cards. First > I tried with only the full-featured card installed. I used the SW that > came with the card from TechnoTrend. I used QAM64 and 6.9M symbolrate. > > AFAIK, there are three bouquets with eight free and three pay-channels. > The three bouquets should be on frequencies S18 - 20 (~280 - 295MHz). > > !! I'm not really sure about any of the paramaters (freqs, srate, QAM) !! > > The TT SW answers after each frequency with "No DVB signal". Does this > mean that on that frequency there was no DVB signal or that there is no > signal at all? There are no markings in the TT cards, so I'm assuming that > the female connector is Input. > > > About the linux stuff: > > I got the driver compiled and the modules load. I get an error message > about the firmware into the system log (can't remember the exact frasing). > > I've tried using dtv_scan (added S18-20 to the config file), but it fails > also. > > I laso compiled VDR successfully. It starts and says that it finds two DVB > cards. I tried usinf the provided channels.conf.cable file, but the tuning > obviously fails since the frquencies are wrong. The system log shows that > VDR tries to tune the card to the channel, so I'm assuming that everything > is OK with the cards regardless of the error message about the firmware. Tuning is independent of the firmware for DVB-C (in DVB-S the firmware handles DiSEqC). Still it would be helpful to know what it said. > I'll get in touch with the cable company next ;) They should at least be able to tell you what modulation they use, if they use spectrum inversion, etc. Since the TT software also fails maybe they are using some kind of exotic setup. Ralph -- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Fri Jan 04 17:09:31 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mhonarc@limes.convergence.de Received: (qmail 17651 invoked by uid 0); 4 Jan 2002 17:09:31 -0000 Received: from chambertin.convergence.de (212.84.236.2) by limes.convergence.de with SMTP; 4 Jan 2002 17:09:31 -0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=chambertin) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16MXiP-0007xq-00; Fri, 04 Jan 2002 18:01:09 +0100 Received: with LISTAR (v0.129a; list linux-dvb); Fri, 04 Jan 2002 18:00:58 +0100 (MET) Received: from dsl-212-23-11-245.zen.co.uk ([212.23.11.245] helo=exterminate.tv) by chambertin.convergence.de with smtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16MXPc-0006Wg-00 for ; Fri, 04 Jan 2002 17:41:45 +0100 Received: (qmail 1526 invoked from network); 4 Jan 2002 16:54:07 -0000 Received: from emea-nat-31.liberate.com (HELO bombay) (bradley@216.221.239.31) by dsl-212-23-11-245.zen.co.uk with SMTP; 4 Jan 2002 16:54:07 -0000 From: "Bradley Schatz" To: "Marcus Metzler" , "PSIplus" Cc: Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: WinTV Nova: Drivers working, but no Video Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2002 16:41:33 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 In-Reply-To: <15413.41779.55264.780316@sheridan.metzler> Importance: Normal X-Approved-By: dirk@convergence.de X-listar-version: Listar v0.129a Sender: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Errors-to: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org X-original-sender: dirk@convergence.de Precedence: bulk X-list: linux-dvb Interestingly I too have had the same problem with attempting to cat /dev/ost/dvr on wintv nova t, wintv dvb and nova s. Most recently I had limited success tuning with tzap and then using dvbstream to read the stream successfully. However cat'ing still dosent work. -Bradley > -----Original Message----- > From: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org > [mailto:linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org]On Behalf Of mocm@convergence.de > Sent: 04 January 2002 12:42 > To: PSIplus > Cc: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org; Marcus Metzler > Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: WinTV Nova: Drivers working, but no Video > > > PSIplus writes: > > Hi! > > > > Additional Info: > > If I record the Stream: > > cat /dev/ost/dvr | ts2ps 0 0 > test.mpg > > The video quality is low... nearby the whole screen is green, > no sound, etc... > > Did you test the file with mplayer or xine. mplayer has no problems > with my files, but xine has no sound and hangs at the end. > If you have blockiness or similar distortions, you may have tuning > problems. Maybe you need to edit your .dvbrc file. You can also use > dvb_tune from linuxstb.org to create an XML .dvbtc file which can also > be read by (n)tuxzap. > > To be sure there is no other problem, try to do everything by hand > without pipes, e.g. > cat /dev/ost/dvr > file.ts > ts2ps file.ts 0 0 > file.mpg > etc. > > Marcus > > > > -- > Info: > To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with > "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. > > -- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Fri Jan 04 17:33:05 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mhonarc@limes.convergence.de Received: (qmail 26858 invoked by uid 0); 4 Jan 2002 17:33:05 -0000 Received: from chambertin.convergence.de (212.84.236.2) by limes.convergence.de with SMTP; 4 Jan 2002 17:33:05 -0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=chambertin) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16MY5C-0001VY-00; Fri, 04 Jan 2002 18:24:42 +0100 Received: with LISTAR (v0.129a; list linux-dvb); Fri, 04 Jan 2002 18:24:30 +0100 (MET) Received: from basket.ball.reliam.net ([213.91.6.7]) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16MY50-0001RQ-00 for ; Fri, 04 Jan 2002 18:24:30 +0100 Received: from oss (pD905594C.dip.t-dialin.net [217.5.89.76]) by basket.ball.reliam.net (Postfix) with SMTP id BF0E73DDC; Fri, 4 Jan 2002 18:23:59 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <006001c19544$96be1940$3200a8c0@oss> From: "Uwe" To: , "Ralph Metzler" Subject: [linux-dvb] Tuning problem with DVB-C and latest drivers Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2002 18:23:54 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-listar-version: Listar v0.129a Sender: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Errors-to: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org X-original-sender: linux_dvb@uni.de Precedence: bulk X-list: linux-dvb Hello >Hello DVB-Developer > >> >> Hello, >> >> Newer driver versions (tested: 2001-11-17) break video tuning on my >>Siemens >> DVB-C Card with >> both VDR and DTV. >> I was using 2001-10-03 so far, which has the annoying side effect that it >> needs about 15 minutes to tune correctly the first time I switch on my >> machine (from then it works >> well, even after rebooting, until I really power it off). >> Loading the newer one first, removing it and then loading 2001-10-03 rids >> me >> of that problem. >> But when using the new driver with VDR, the screen remains black. >> make insmod tunes to ZDF.info correctly, but as soon as I start VDR the >> screen turns black (sound is there). > > > I have same problem as Stefan Schreiber. Until 2001-10-03 is no problem > with the Driver for DVB-C. > > MFG ...Uwe > with CVS-Driver from 04.01.2002 is same problem. Wat is different in current to Driver from 20.09.2001 or 03.10.2001? Please help the DVB-C-User! MFG .... Uwe -- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Fri Jan 04 18:39:55 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mhonarc@limes.convergence.de Received: (qmail 14949 invoked by uid 0); 4 Jan 2002 18:39:55 -0000 Received: from chambertin.convergence.de (212.84.236.2) by limes.convergence.de with SMTP; 4 Jan 2002 18:39:55 -0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=chambertin) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16MZ7g-0006Pi-00; Fri, 04 Jan 2002 19:31:20 +0100 Received: with LISTAR (v0.129a; list linux-dvb); Fri, 04 Jan 2002 19:31:09 +0100 (MET) Received: from dial-195-14-251-106.netcologne.de ([195.14.251.106] helo=rjkm.de) by chambertin.convergence.de with TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168 encrypted esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16MZ7U-0006N9-00 for ; Fri, 04 Jan 2002 19:31:09 +0100 Received: (from rjkm@localhost) by rjkm.de (8.12.0.Beta19/8.12.0.Beta19) id g04IV1uh002649; Fri, 4 Jan 2002 19:31:01 +0100 From: Ralph Metzler Message-ID: <15413.62693.219090.447412@gargle.gargle.HOWL> Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2002 19:31:01 +0100 To: "Uwe" Cc: , "Ralph Metzler" Subject: [linux-dvb] Tuning problem with DVB-C and latest drivers In-Reply-To: <006001c19544$96be1940$3200a8c0@oss> References: <006001c19544$96be1940$3200a8c0@oss> X-Mailer: VM 6.95 under 21.4 (patch 4) "Artificial Intelligence" XEmacs Lucid Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 1.8) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-listar-version: Listar v0.129a Sender: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Errors-to: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org X-original-sender: rjkm@convergence.de Precedence: bulk X-list: linux-dvb Uwe writes: > Hello > > >Hello DVB-Developer > > > >> > >> Hello, > >> > >> Newer driver versions (tested: 2001-11-17) break video tuning on my > >>Siemens > >> DVB-C Card with > >> both VDR and DTV. > >> I was using 2001-10-03 so far, which has the annoying side effect that it > >> needs about 15 minutes to tune correctly the first time I switch on my > >> machine (from then it works > >> well, even after rebooting, until I really power it off). > >> Loading the newer one first, removing it and then loading 2001-10-03 rids > >> me > >> of that problem. > >> But when using the new driver with VDR, the screen remains black. > >> make insmod tunes to ZDF.info correctly, but as soon as I start VDR the > >> screen turns black (sound is there). > > > > > > I have same problem as Stefan Schreiber. Until 2001-10-03 is no problem > > with the Driver for DVB-C. > > > > MFG ...Uwe > > > > > with CVS-Driver from 04.01.2002 is same problem. > Wat is different in current to Driver from 20.09.2001 or 03.10.2001? The whole internal frontend data structures and also the Tuning API changed. But as I just wrote a few mails back I could find nothing wrong in the driver. There only was a bug in libdvb which had trouble with old cable config files. If the application (ntuxzap, VDR, DTV) was properly adapted to the new interface it should work. Ntuxzap should also work now with the old config files. Ralph -- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Fri Jan 04 18:56:49 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mhonarc@limes.convergence.de Received: (qmail 20249 invoked by uid 0); 4 Jan 2002 18:56:49 -0000 Received: from chambertin.convergence.de (212.84.236.2) by limes.convergence.de with SMTP; 4 Jan 2002 18:56:49 -0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=chambertin) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16MZO8-0007MU-00; Fri, 04 Jan 2002 19:48:20 +0100 Received: with LISTAR (v0.129a; list linux-dvb); Fri, 04 Jan 2002 19:48:09 +0100 (MET) Received: from anchor-post-34.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.92]) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16MZNx-0007J8-00 for ; Fri, 04 Jan 2002 19:48:09 +0100 Received: from hackery.demon.co.uk ([194.222.197.211] helo=ray) by anchor-post-34.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 16MZNw-000ECY-0Y for linux-dvb@linuxtv.org; Fri, 4 Jan 2002 18:48:08 +0000 Message-ID: <002801c19551$797b5520$d3c5dec2@ray> From: "Ray" To: Subject: [linux-dvb] DVB-T card and the UK Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2002 18:51:08 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-listar-version: Listar v0.129a Sender: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Errors-to: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org X-original-sender: ray.glendenning@hackery.demon.co.uk Precedence: bulk X-list: linux-dvb Hi Could someone tell me what the difference is between a DVB-T card for the UK and a normal one. I think that the UK uses COFDM on 2K and that most of Europe uses OFDM on 8K. The DVB-T cards from technotrend only mention OFDM, but is this difference in the software or the hardware. The reason I'm asking this is because I'm wanting to full card but Hauppauge are taking their time releasing a none budget version. The easiest way to tell if their is any difference in the hardware would be to compare a Hauppauge DVB-T Nova and a Technotrend DVB-T Budget as the Nova is the only one currently available in the UK. Thanks Ray -- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Fri Jan 04 19:00:46 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mhonarc@limes.convergence.de Received: (qmail 24545 invoked by uid 0); 4 Jan 2002 19:00:46 -0000 Received: from chambertin.convergence.de (212.84.236.2) by limes.convergence.de with SMTP; 4 Jan 2002 19:00:46 -0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=chambertin) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16MZRz-0007rO-00; Fri, 04 Jan 2002 19:52:19 +0100 Received: with LISTAR (v0.129a; list linux-dvb); Fri, 04 Jan 2002 19:52:07 +0100 (MET) Received: from dsl-212-23-11-245.zen.co.uk ([212.23.11.245] helo=exterminate.tv) by chambertin.convergence.de with smtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16MZRm-0007nL-00 for ; Fri, 04 Jan 2002 19:52:06 +0100 Received: (qmail 3041 invoked from network); 4 Jan 2002 19:04:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lapdancer) (jon@192.168.0.16) by dsl-212-23-11-245.zen.co.uk with SMTP; 4 Jan 2002 19:04:36 -0000 From: "Jon Folland" To: "Ray" , Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: DVB-T card and the UK Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2002 18:49:46 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <002801c19551$797b5520$d3c5dec2@ray> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Importance: Normal X-listar-version: Listar v0.129a Sender: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Errors-to: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org X-original-sender: jon@nativ.tv Precedence: bulk X-list: linux-dvb http://www.linuxstb.org/dvb-t/index.html -----Original Message----- From: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org [mailto:linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org]On Behalf Of Ray Sent: 04 January 2002 18:51 To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] DVB-T card and the UK Hi Could someone tell me what the difference is between a DVB-T card for the UK and a normal one. I think that the UK uses COFDM on 2K and that most of Europe uses OFDM on 8K. The DVB-T cards from technotrend only mention OFDM, but is this difference in the software or the hardware. The reason I'm asking this is because I'm wanting to full card but Hauppauge are taking their time releasing a none budget version. The easiest way to tell if their is any difference in the hardware would be to compare a Hauppauge DVB-T Nova and a Technotrend DVB-T Budget as the Nova is the only one currently available in the UK. Thanks Ray -- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. -- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Fri Jan 04 19:12:26 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mhonarc@limes.convergence.de Received: (qmail 25308 invoked by uid 0); 4 Jan 2002 19:12:26 -0000 Received: from chambertin.convergence.de (212.84.236.2) by limes.convergence.de with SMTP; 4 Jan 2002 19:12:26 -0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=chambertin) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16MZdG-0000yd-00; Fri, 04 Jan 2002 20:03:58 +0100 Received: with LISTAR (v0.129a; list linux-dvb); Fri, 04 Jan 2002 20:03:45 +0100 (MET) Received: from anchor-post-34.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.92]) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16MZd3-0000uR-00 for ; Fri, 04 Jan 2002 20:03:45 +0100 Received: from hackery.demon.co.uk ([194.222.197.211] helo=ray) by anchor-post-34.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 16MZcy-000Gzw-0Y for linux-dvb@linuxtv.org; Fri, 4 Jan 2002 19:03:43 +0000 Message-ID: <005b01c19553$a66bee80$d3c5dec2@ray> From: "Ray" To: Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: DVB-T card and the UK Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2002 19:11:33 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-listar-version: Listar v0.129a Sender: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Errors-to: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org X-original-sender: ray.glendenning@hackery.demon.co.uk Precedence: bulk X-list: linux-dvb Hi Thanks for the prompt reply. I've already read the page given below and it only mentions using a hauppauge Nova card in the UK, although it says the driver works with the technotrend full card it doesn't mention if this will work in the UK. What I still need to know is if the Technotrend TT-DVB-T PCI will work in the UK (I could purchase one of these now from http://www.dvb-shop.de/ if it works). ----- Original Message ----- From: Ray To: Jon Folland Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 7:07 PM Subject: Re: [linux-dvb] Re: DVB-T card and the UK > Hi > > Thanks for the prompt reply. I've already read the page given below and it > only mentions using a hauppauge Nova card in the UK, although it says the > driver works with the technotrend full card it doesn't mention if this will > work in the UK. > > What I still need to know is if the Technotrend TT-DVB-T PCI will work in > the UK (I could purchase one of these now from http://www.dvb-shop.de/ if it > works). > > Cheers > Ray > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Jon Folland > To: Ray ; > Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 6:49 PM > Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: DVB-T card and the UK > > > > http://www.linuxstb.org/dvb-t/index.html > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org > > [mailto:linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org]On Behalf Of Ray > > Sent: 04 January 2002 18:51 > > To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org > > Subject: [linux-dvb] DVB-T card and the UK > > > > > > Hi > > > > Could someone tell me what the difference is between a DVB-T card for the > UK > > and a normal one. I think that the UK uses COFDM on 2K and that most of > > Europe uses OFDM on 8K. The DVB-T cards from technotrend only mention > OFDM, > > but is this difference in the software or the hardware. > > > > The reason I'm asking this is because I'm wanting to full card but > Hauppauge > > are taking their time releasing a none budget version. The easiest way to > > tell if their is any difference in the hardware would be to compare a > > Hauppauge DVB-T Nova and a Technotrend DVB-T Budget as the Nova is the > only > > one currently available in the UK. > > > > Thanks > > Ray > > > > > > > > -- > > Info: > > To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe > > linux-dvb" as subject. > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Info: > > To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe > linux-dvb" as subject. > > > -- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Fri Jan 04 19:20:36 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mhonarc@limes.convergence.de Received: (qmail 29606 invoked by uid 0); 4 Jan 2002 19:20:36 -0000 Received: from chambertin.convergence.de (212.84.236.2) by limes.convergence.de with SMTP; 4 Jan 2002 19:20:36 -0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=chambertin) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16MZl9-0001T1-00; Fri, 04 Jan 2002 20:12:07 +0100 Received: with LISTAR (v0.129a; list linux-dvb); Fri, 04 Jan 2002 20:11:54 +0100 (MET) Received: from p3e9d1304.dip.t-dialin.net ([62.157.19.4] helo=server1.x-md.de ident=root) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16MZkv-0001P0-00 for ; Fri, 04 Jan 2002 20:11:53 +0100 Received: from localhost (openmail@localhost) by server1.x-md.de (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id g04JBqr27459 for ; Fri, 4 Jan 2002 20:11:52 +0100 X-OpenMail-Hops: 1 Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2002 20:11:52 +0100 Message-Id: <"H000006600014ed0.1010171511.server1.x-md.de*"@MHS> Subject: [linux-dvb] TT DVB-S buget makes me crazy - How to check whether drivers work ?? MIME-Version: 1.0 From: balg@x-md.de TO: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline; filename="BDY.TXT" ;Creation-Date="Fri, 4 Jan 2002 20:11:52 +0100" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-listar-version: Listar v0.129a Sender: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Errors-to: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org X-original-sender: balg@x-md.de Precedence: bulk X-list: linux-dvb Hi there, I sucessfully compiled the lastest DVB drivers and tuxzap from CVS using kernel 2.4.17 All modules are insmoded without probs and seem to recognize my TT-DVB-S Budget correctly. All applications like tuxplay, ntuxplay fail with similar problems accessing the devices e.g. ntuxplayer tells me '/dev/ost/video0: Invalid argument' even `cat /dev/video` only results in a simple "cat: /dev/video: Invalid argument" If I need to be more precise tell me what you'd like to know. Greetings Andreas Balg -- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Fri Jan 04 19:23:37 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mhonarc@limes.convergence.de Received: (qmail 29895 invoked by uid 0); 4 Jan 2002 19:23:37 -0000 Received: from chambertin.convergence.de (212.84.236.2) by limes.convergence.de with SMTP; 4 Jan 2002 19:23:37 -0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=chambertin) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16MZo4-0001kH-00; Fri, 04 Jan 2002 20:15:08 +0100 Received: with LISTAR (v0.129a; list linux-dvb); Fri, 04 Jan 2002 20:14:56 +0100 (MET) Received: from dsl-212-23-11-245.zen.co.uk ([212.23.11.245] helo=exterminate.tv) by chambertin.convergence.de with smtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16MZnr-0001fz-00 for ; Fri, 04 Jan 2002 20:14:55 +0100 Received: (qmail 3161 invoked from network); 4 Jan 2002 19:27:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lapdancer) (jon@192.168.0.16) by dsl-212-23-11-245.zen.co.uk with SMTP; 4 Jan 2002 19:27:25 -0000 From: "Jon Folland" To: "Ray" , Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: DVB-T card and the UK Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2002 19:12:35 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <005b01c19553$a66bee80$d3c5dec2@ray> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Importance: Normal X-listar-version: Listar v0.129a Sender: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Errors-to: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org X-original-sender: jon@nativ.tv Precedence: bulk X-list: linux-dvb The UK uses OFDM at 2k (para.u.ofdm.TransmissionMode=TRANSMISSION_MODE_2K). The TT-DVB-T card supports both 2k and 8k modes, so one would assume it would work. As it says in the page: "DVB-T development was completed in early November 2001 and the driver fully supports both the budget (NOVA-t) and full-featured versions of the TechnoTrends DVB-T cards" The sources indicates this.... No promises though - good luck! -----Original Message----- From: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org [mailto:linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org]On Behalf Of Ray Sent: 04 January 2002 19:12 To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: DVB-T card and the UK Hi Thanks for the prompt reply. I've already read the page given below and it only mentions using a hauppauge Nova card in the UK, although it says the driver works with the technotrend full card it doesn't mention if this will work in the UK. What I still need to know is if the Technotrend TT-DVB-T PCI will work in the UK (I could purchase one of these now from http://www.dvb-shop.de/ if it works). ----- Original Message ----- From: Ray To: Jon Folland Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 7:07 PM Subject: Re: [linux-dvb] Re: DVB-T card and the UK > Hi > > Thanks for the prompt reply. I've already read the page given below and it > only mentions using a hauppauge Nova card in the UK, although it says the > driver works with the technotrend full card it doesn't mention if this will > work in the UK. > > What I still need to know is if the Technotrend TT-DVB-T PCI will work in > the UK (I could purchase one of these now from http://www.dvb-shop.de/ if it > works). > > Cheers > Ray > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Jon Folland > To: Ray ; > Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 6:49 PM > Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: DVB-T card and the UK > > > > http://www.linuxstb.org/dvb-t/index.html > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org > > [mailto:linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org]On Behalf Of Ray > > Sent: 04 January 2002 18:51 > > To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org > > Subject: [linux-dvb] DVB-T card and the UK > > > > > > Hi > > > > Could someone tell me what the difference is between a DVB-T card for the > UK > > and a normal one. I think that the UK uses COFDM on 2K and that most of > > Europe uses OFDM on 8K. The DVB-T cards from technotrend only mention > OFDM, > > but is this difference in the software or the hardware. > > > > The reason I'm asking this is because I'm wanting to full card but > Hauppauge > > are taking their time releasing a none budget version. The easiest way to > > tell if their is any difference in the hardware would be to compare a > > Hauppauge DVB-T Nova and a Technotrend DVB-T Budget as the Nova is the > only > > one currently available in the UK. > > > > Thanks > > Ray > > > > > > > > -- > > Info: > > To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe > > linux-dvb" as subject. > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Info: > > To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe > linux-dvb" as subject. > > > -- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. -- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Fri Jan 04 19:53:48 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mhonarc@limes.convergence.de Received: (qmail 7357 invoked by uid 0); 4 Jan 2002 19:53:48 -0000 Received: from chambertin.convergence.de (212.84.236.2) by limes.convergence.de with SMTP; 4 Jan 2002 19:53:48 -0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=chambertin) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16MaHI-0003hs-00; Fri, 04 Jan 2002 20:45:20 +0100 Received: with LISTAR (v0.129a; list linux-dvb); Fri, 04 Jan 2002 20:45:08 +0100 (MET) Received: from anchor-post-34.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.92]) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16MaH6-0003eR-00 for ; Fri, 04 Jan 2002 20:45:08 +0100 Received: from hackery.demon.co.uk ([194.222.197.211] helo=ray) by anchor-post-34.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 16MaH1-000NrV-0Y for linux-dvb@linuxtv.org; Fri, 4 Jan 2002 19:45:05 +0000 Message-ID: <00ad01c19559$6e3ffdc0$d3c5dec2@ray> From: "Ray" To: References: Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: DVB-T card and the UK Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2002 19:52:56 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-listar-version: Listar v0.129a Sender: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Errors-to: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org X-original-sender: ray.glendenning@hackery.demon.co.uk Precedence: bulk X-list: linux-dvb Hi OK, put it another way, can anyone tell me the chips used on the hauppauge DVB-T Nova and the Technotrends TT-DVB-T cards so I can come up with some sort of comparison? I don't want to spend £205 to end up with a card which won't work :-( Ray ----- Original Message ----- From: Jon Folland To: Ray ; Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 7:12 PM Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: DVB-T card and the UK > The UK uses OFDM at 2k (para.u.ofdm.TransmissionMode=TRANSMISSION_MODE_2K). > > The TT-DVB-T card supports both 2k and 8k modes, so one would assume it > would work. As it says in the page: > > "DVB-T development was completed in early November 2001 and the driver fully > supports both the budget (NOVA-t) and full-featured versions of the > TechnoTrends DVB-T cards" > > The sources indicates this.... > > No promises though - good luck! > > -----Original Message----- > From: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org > [mailto:linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org]On Behalf Of Ray > Sent: 04 January 2002 19:12 > To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org > Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: DVB-T card and the UK > > > Hi > > Thanks for the prompt reply. I've already read the page given below and it > only mentions using a hauppauge Nova card in the UK, although it says the > driver works with the technotrend full card it doesn't mention if this will > work in the UK. > > What I still need to know is if the Technotrend TT-DVB-T PCI will work in > the UK (I could purchase one of these now from http://www.dvb-shop.de/ if it > works). > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Ray > To: Jon Folland > Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 7:07 PM > Subject: Re: [linux-dvb] Re: DVB-T card and the UK > > > > Hi > > > > Thanks for the prompt reply. I've already read the page given below and > it > > only mentions using a hauppauge Nova card in the UK, although it says the > > driver works with the technotrend full card it doesn't mention if this > will > > work in the UK. > > > > What I still need to know is if the Technotrend TT-DVB-T PCI will work in > > the UK (I could purchase one of these now from http://www.dvb-shop.de/ if > it > > works). > > > > Cheers > > Ray > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Jon Folland > > To: Ray ; > > Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 6:49 PM > > Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: DVB-T card and the UK > > > > > > > http://www.linuxstb.org/dvb-t/index.html > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org > > > [mailto:linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org]On Behalf Of Ray > > > Sent: 04 January 2002 18:51 > > > To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org > > > Subject: [linux-dvb] DVB-T card and the UK > > > > > > > > > Hi > > > > > > Could someone tell me what the difference is between a DVB-T card for > the > > UK > > > and a normal one. I think that the UK uses COFDM on 2K and that most of > > > Europe uses OFDM on 8K. The DVB-T cards from technotrend only mention > > OFDM, > > > but is this difference in the software or the hardware. > > > > > > The reason I'm asking this is because I'm wanting to full card but > > Hauppauge > > > are taking their time releasing a none budget version. The easiest way > to > > > tell if their is any difference in the hardware would be to compare a > > > Hauppauge DVB-T Nova and a Technotrend DVB-T Budget as the Nova is the > > only > > > one currently available in the UK. > > > > > > Thanks > > > Ray > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Info: > > > To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe > > > linux-dvb" as subject. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Info: > > > To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe > > linux-dvb" as subject. > > > > > > > > > -- > Info: > To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe > linux-dvb" as subject. > > > > > -- > Info: > To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. > -- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Fri Jan 04 20:02:45 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mhonarc@limes.convergence.de Received: (qmail 12048 invoked by uid 0); 4 Jan 2002 20:02:44 -0000 Received: from chambertin.convergence.de (212.84.236.2) by limes.convergence.de with SMTP; 4 Jan 2002 20:02:44 -0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=chambertin) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16MaPx-0004Er-00; Fri, 04 Jan 2002 20:54:17 +0100 Received: with LISTAR (v0.129a; list linux-dvb); Fri, 04 Jan 2002 20:54:03 +0100 (MET) Received: from anchor-post-34.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.92]) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16MaPj-0004Av-00 for ; Fri, 04 Jan 2002 20:54:03 +0100 Received: from hackery.demon.co.uk ([194.222.197.211] helo=ray) by anchor-post-34.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 16MaPd-0000su-0Y for linux-dvb@linuxtv.org; Fri, 4 Jan 2002 19:54:00 +0000 Message-ID: <00b601c1955a$ad1f7600$d3c5dec2@ray> From: "Ray" To: References: <00ad01c19559$6e3ffdc0$d3c5dec2@ray> Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: DVB-T card and the UK Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2002 20:01:48 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-listar-version: Listar v0.129a Sender: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Errors-to: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org X-original-sender: ray.glendenning@hackery.demon.co.uk Precedence: bulk X-list: linux-dvb Sorry, I meant the Technotrend budget card. Ray ----- Original Message ----- From: Ray To: Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 7:52 PM Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: DVB-T card and the UK > Hi > > OK, put it another way, can anyone tell me the chips used on the hauppauge > DVB-T Nova and the Technotrends TT-DVB-T cards so I can come up with some > sort of comparison? I don't want to spend 205 to end up with a card which > won't work :-( > > Ray > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Jon Folland > To: Ray ; > Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 7:12 PM > Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: DVB-T card and the UK > > > > The UK uses OFDM at 2k > (para.u.ofdm.TransmissionMode=TRANSMISSION_MODE_2K). > > > > The TT-DVB-T card supports both 2k and 8k modes, so one would assume it > > would work. As it says in the page: > > > > "DVB-T development was completed in early November 2001 and the driver > fully > > supports both the budget (NOVA-t) and full-featured versions of the > > TechnoTrends DVB-T cards" > > > > The sources indicates this.... > > > > No promises though - good luck! > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org > > [mailto:linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org]On Behalf Of Ray > > Sent: 04 January 2002 19:12 > > To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org > > Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: DVB-T card and the UK > > > > > > Hi > > > > Thanks for the prompt reply. I've already read the page given below and > it > > only mentions using a hauppauge Nova card in the UK, although it says the > > driver works with the technotrend full card it doesn't mention if this > will > > work in the UK. > > > > What I still need to know is if the Technotrend TT-DVB-T PCI will work in > > the UK (I could purchase one of these now from http://www.dvb-shop.de/ if > it > > works). > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Ray > > To: Jon Folland > > Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 7:07 PM > > Subject: Re: [linux-dvb] Re: DVB-T card and the UK > > > > > > > Hi > > > > > > Thanks for the prompt reply. I've already read the page given below and > > it > > > only mentions using a hauppauge Nova card in the UK, although it says > the > > > driver works with the technotrend full card it doesn't mention if this > > will > > > work in the UK. > > > > > > What I still need to know is if the Technotrend TT-DVB-T PCI will work > in > > > the UK (I could purchase one of these now from http://www.dvb-shop.de/ > if > > it > > > works). > > > > > > Cheers > > > Ray > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: Jon Folland > > > To: Ray ; > > > Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 6:49 PM > > > Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: DVB-T card and the UK > > > > > > > > > > http://www.linuxstb.org/dvb-t/index.html > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org > > > > [mailto:linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org]On Behalf Of Ray > > > > Sent: 04 January 2002 18:51 > > > > To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org > > > > Subject: [linux-dvb] DVB-T card and the UK > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi > > > > > > > > Could someone tell me what the difference is between a DVB-T card for > > the > > > UK > > > > and a normal one. I think that the UK uses COFDM on 2K and that most > of > > > > Europe uses OFDM on 8K. The DVB-T cards from technotrend only mention > > > OFDM, > > > > but is this difference in the software or the hardware. > > > > > > > > The reason I'm asking this is because I'm wanting to full card but > > > Hauppauge > > > > are taking their time releasing a none budget version. The easiest > way > > to > > > > tell if their is any difference in the hardware would be to compare a > > > > Hauppauge DVB-T Nova and a Technotrend DVB-T Budget as the Nova is the > > > only > > > > one currently available in the UK. > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > Ray > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Info: > > > > To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe > > > > linux-dvb" as subject. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Info: > > > > To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe > > > linux-dvb" as subject. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Info: > > To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe > > linux-dvb" as subject. > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Info: > > To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe > linux-dvb" as subject. > > > > > > -- > Info: > To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. > -- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Fri Jan 04 20:51:31 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mhonarc@limes.convergence.de Received: (qmail 27082 invoked by uid 0); 4 Jan 2002 20:51:31 -0000 Received: from chambertin.convergence.de (212.84.236.2) by limes.convergence.de with SMTP; 4 Jan 2002 20:51:31 -0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=chambertin) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16MbB5-0007VR-00; Fri, 04 Jan 2002 21:42:59 +0100 Received: with LISTAR (v0.129a; list linux-dvb); Fri, 04 Jan 2002 21:42:38 +0100 (MET) Received: from warsl401pip7.highway.telekom.at ([195.3.96.115] helo=email03.aon.at) by chambertin.convergence.de with smtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16MbAk-0007N5-00 for ; Fri, 04 Jan 2002 21:42:38 +0100 Received: (qmail 287630 invoked from network); 4 Jan 2002 20:42:07 -0000 Received: from m303p005.adsl.highway.telekom.at (HELO there) ([62.47.165.197]) (envelope-sender ) by qmail3.highway.telekom.at (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 4 Jan 2002 20:42:07 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" From: PSIplus Organization: NetPhoenix Message-Id: <200201042137.3512@psiplus.cjb.net> To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] TuxZap - A Systemwide Crash - Then nothing! Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2002 21:42:07 +0100 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.2] Author: PSIplus X-Errors-To: PSIplus URL: http://www.netphoenix.at MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-listar-version: Listar v0.129a Sender: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Errors-to: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org X-original-sender: psiplus@gmx.net Precedence: bulk X-list: linux-dvb Hi! Another nice problem ;-) Anything worked well on my system, I watched TV in MPlayer... But then an= =20 error appeard: My Main Display (where I watched TV) fell out, my second t= oo. The system was not reacting on any inputs localy, but I could restart rem= ote=20 (killing the displaymanager didn't help - it was some kind of hardware cr= ash) After that TuxZap was unable to to anything... Driver loaded normally, bu= t=20 tuxzap shows on each action "failture event : Success" and do nothing.=20 Nothing is coming thru the /dev/ost/dvr device anymore. What happend??? Martin --=20 --> PSIplus =20 --> ICQ... 57749465=20 --> Site... www.psiplus.org=20 --> Board... www.netphoenix.at=20 --> GnuPG Public Key... www.netphoenix.at/0/?loc=3D11 -- -- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Fri Jan 04 20:51:32 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mhonarc@limes.convergence.de Received: (qmail 27088 invoked by uid 0); 4 Jan 2002 20:51:31 -0000 Received: from chambertin.convergence.de (212.84.236.2) by limes.convergence.de with SMTP; 4 Jan 2002 20:51:31 -0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=chambertin) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16MbAn-0007Qk-00; Fri, 04 Jan 2002 21:42:41 +0100 Received: with LISTAR (v0.129a; list linux-dvb); Fri, 04 Jan 2002 21:42:27 +0100 (MET) Received: from facade.firsthop.fi ([195.163.185.50] helo=factory.firsthop.fi) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16MbAY-0007Mr-00 for ; Fri, 04 Jan 2002 21:42:26 +0100 Received: (from smile@localhost) by factory.firsthop.fi (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA12321 for linux-dvb@linuxtv.org; Fri, 4 Jan 2002 22:41:53 +0200 Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2002 22:41:53 +0200 From: Lauri Pesonen To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: Tuning problem Message-ID: <20020104224153.A12307@firsthop.com> Reply-To: lauri.pesonen@firsthop.com Mail-Followup-To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org References: <20020104094504.B398@firsthop.com> <15413.55572.424797.457019@gargle.gargle.HOWL> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <15413.55572.424797.457019@gargle.gargle.HOWL>; from rjkm@convergence.de on Fri, Jan 04, 2002 at 05:32:20PM +0100 X-listar-version: Listar v0.129a Sender: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Errors-to: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org X-original-sender: lauri.pesonen@firsthop.com Precedence: bulk X-list: linux-dvb On Fri, Jan 04, 2002 at 05:32:20PM +0100, Ralph Metzler wrote: > Hi, > > I laso compiled VDR successfully. It starts and says that it finds two DVB > > cards. I tried usinf the provided channels.conf.cable file, but the tuning > > obviously fails since the frquencies are wrong. The system log shows that > > VDR tries to tune the card to the channel, so I'm assuming that everything > > is OK with the cards regardless of the error message about the firmware. > > Tuning is independent of the firmware for DVB-C (in DVB-S the firmware > handles DiSEqC). Still it would be helpful to know what it said. Here's the whole system log when loading the modules: Jan 4 22:19:58 localhost kernel: i2c-core.o: i2c core module Jan 4 22:19:58 localhost kernel: Linux video capture interface: v1.00 Jan 4 22:19:58 localhost kernel: i2c-core.o: driver VES1893 DVB demodulator registered. Jan 4 22:19:58 localhost kernel: i2c-core.o: driver VES1820 DVB demodulator registered. Jan 4 22:19:58 localhost kernel: i2c-core.o: driver L64781 DVB demodulator registered. Jan 4 22:19:58 localhost kernel: L64781: init done Jan 4 22:19:58 localhost kernel: i2c-core.o: driver tda8083 DVB demodulator registered. Jan 4 22:19:58 localhost kernel: i2c-core.o: driver stv0299 DVB demodulator registered. Jan 4 22:19:58 localhost kernel: i2c-core.o: driver i2c TV tuner driver registered. Jan 4 22:19:59 localhost kernel: saa7146_core.o: saa7146(1): bus:0, rev:1, mem:0xd08db000. Jan 4 22:19:59 localhost kernel: L64781: no L64781 found ... Jan 4 22:19:59 localhost kernel: i2c-core.o: adapter saa7146(1) registered as adapter 0. Jan 4 22:19:59 localhost kernel: saa7146_core.o: saa7146(2): bus:0, rev:1, mem:0xd0d5e000. Jan 4 22:19:59 localhost kernel: L64781: no L64781 found ... Jan 4 22:19:59 localhost kernel: i2c-core.o: adapter saa7146(2) registered as adapter 1. Jan 4 22:20:07 localhost kernel: wait-for-debi-done maxwait: 500000 Jan 4 22:20:07 localhost kernel: dvb: debi test in bootarm() failed: 00000000 != 10325476 Jan 4 22:20:07 localhost kernel: dvb1: AV711536924483 - firm 1d18c010, rtsl 20000003, vid 20000003, app 00000000 Jan 4 22:20:07 localhost kernel: dvb: 2 dvb(s) found! I'm under the impression that I should see an image on the composite out when I load the driver. This is not the case... > > I'll get in touch with the cable company next ;) > > They should at least be able to tell you what modulation they > use, if they use spectrum inversion, etc. > Since the TT software also fails maybe they are using some kind of > exotic setup. I got the following frequency list from them, so now I know what to look for at least... : Freq. QAM Srate 283 128 5,9 290 128 5,9 297 128 5,9 146 128 6,9 154 128 6,9 162 64 6,9 170 128 6,9 Additionally I was instructed by one of the list subscribers to get this stuff working on Windows first. He suggested that I should strip everything out of my PC and try to get the cards working. I think I'll do that before venturing into the Linux world again... Thanks for all the help guys! I can't wait to get everything working ;) > Ralph -- Lauri -- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Fri Jan 04 21:38:16 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mhonarc@limes.convergence.de Received: (qmail 9630 invoked by uid 0); 4 Jan 2002 21:38:16 -0000 Received: from chambertin.convergence.de (212.84.236.2) by limes.convergence.de with SMTP; 4 Jan 2002 21:38:16 -0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=chambertin) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16MbuL-0001Uc-00; Fri, 04 Jan 2002 22:29:45 +0100 Received: with LISTAR (v0.129a; list linux-dvb); Fri, 04 Jan 2002 22:29:32 +0100 (MET) Received: from gw-nl4.philips.com ([212.153.190.6]) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16Mbu7-0001S5-00 for ; Fri, 04 Jan 2002 22:29:31 +0100 Received: from smtpscan-nl2.philips.com (localhost.philips.com [127.0.0.1]) by gw-nl4.philips.com with ESMTP id WAA09414 for ; Fri, 4 Jan 2002 22:28:24 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from stuart.butterfield@philips.com) Received: from smtpscan-nl2.philips.com(130.139.36.22) by gw-nl4.philips.com via mwrap (4.0a) id xma009412; Fri, 4 Jan 02 22:28:24 +0100 Received: from smtprelay-nl1.philips.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtpscan-nl2.philips.com (8.9.3/8.8.5-1.2.2m-19990317) with ESMTP id WAA19486 for ; Fri, 4 Jan 2002 22:28:57 +0100 (MET) Received: from prlr.prl.research.philips.com.prl.research.philips.com (prlhp1.prl.research.philips.com [130.141.10.82]) by smtprelay-nl1.philips.com (8.9.3/8.8.5-1.2.2m-19990317) with ESMTP id WAA21392 for ; Fri, 4 Jan 2002 22:28:56 +0100 (MET) Received: from prl.research.philips.com by prlr.prl.research.philips.com.prl.research.philips.com; Fri, 4 Jan 2002 21:28:18 GMT Received: from flora.paracept.com.168.192.in-addr.arpa (ras-dynamic6.prl.research.philips.com [130.141.145.105]) by prl.research.philips.com (8.10.2+Sun/prsun11) with ESMTP id g04LTCP12429 for ; Fri, 4 Jan 2002 21:29:12 GMT Received: (from butterfi@localhost) by flora.paracept.com.168.192.in-addr.arpa (8.11.6/8.11.2) id g04LO3I05449; Fri, 4 Jan 2002 21:24:03 GMT X-Authentication-Warning: flora.paracept.com.168.192.in-addr.arpa: butterfi set sender to stuart.butterfield@philips.com using -f From: Stuart Butterfield MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15414.7539.252522.625102@flora.paracept.com.168.192.in-addr.arpa> Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2002 21:24:03 +0000 To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: DVB-T card and the UK In-Reply-To: <200201041910.g04JAG304560@flora.paracept.com.168.192.in-addr.arpa> References: <200201041910.g04JAG304560@flora.paracept.com.168.192.in-addr.arpa> X-Mailer: VM 6.95 under Emacs 20.7.1 X-listar-version: Listar v0.129a Sender: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Errors-to: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org X-original-sender: stuart.butterfield@philips.com Precedence: bulk X-list: linux-dvb I have both the Win-TV Nova-t and the Technotrend TT-DVB-T PCI card working fine here in the UK (Oxford and Reigate transmitters). Stuart -- Dr Stuart Butterfield T: +44 (0)1491 612619 / +44 (0)1293 815581 Senior Scientist M: +44 (0)7736 350499 Interactive Systems Group F: +44 (0)1293 815500 Philips Research Labs E: stuart.butterfield@philips.com Ray writes: > Hi > > Thanks for the prompt reply. I've already read the page given below and it > only mentions using a hauppauge Nova card in the UK, although it says the > driver works with the technotrend full card it doesn't mention if this will > work in the UK. > > What I still need to know is if the Technotrend TT-DVB-T PCI will work in > the UK (I could purchase one of these now from http://www.dvb-shop.de/ if it > works). > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Ray > To: Jon Folland > Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 7:07 PM > Subject: Re: [linux-dvb] Re: DVB-T card and the UK > > > > Hi > > > > Thanks for the prompt reply. I've already read the page given below and > it > > only mentions using a hauppauge Nova card in the UK, although it says the > > driver works with the technotrend full card it doesn't mention if this > will > > work in the UK. > > > > What I still need to know is if the Technotrend TT-DVB-T PCI will work in > > the UK (I could purchase one of these now from http://www.dvb-shop.de/ if > it > > works). > > > > Cheers > > Ray > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Jon Folland > > To: Ray ; > > Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 6:49 PM > > Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: DVB-T card and the UK > > > > > > > http://www.linuxstb.org/dvb-t/index.html > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org > > > [mailto:linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org]On Behalf Of Ray > > > Sent: 04 January 2002 18:51 > > > To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org > > > Subject: [linux-dvb] DVB-T card and the UK > > > > > > > > > Hi > > > > > > Could someone tell me what the difference is between a DVB-T card for > the > > UK > > > and a normal one. I think that the UK uses COFDM on 2K and that most of > > > Europe uses OFDM on 8K. The DVB-T cards from technotrend only mention > > OFDM, > > > but is this difference in the software or the hardware. > > > > > > The reason I'm asking this is because I'm wanting to full card but > > Hauppauge > > > are taking their time releasing a none budget version. The easiest way > to > > > tell if their is any difference in the hardware would be to compare a > > > Hauppauge DVB-T Nova and a Technotrend DVB-T Budget as the Nova is the > > only > > > one currently available in the UK. > > > > > > Thanks > > > Ray > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Info: > > > To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe > > > linux-dvb" as subject. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Info: > > > To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe > > linux-dvb" as subject. > > > > > > > > > -- > Info: > To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. > -- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Fri Jan 04 21:48:43 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mhonarc@limes.convergence.de Received: (qmail 14255 invoked by uid 0); 4 Jan 2002 21:48:43 -0000 Received: from chambertin.convergence.de (212.84.236.2) by limes.convergence.de with SMTP; 4 Jan 2002 21:48:43 -0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=chambertin) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16Mc4T-0002lO-00; Fri, 04 Jan 2002 22:40:13 +0100 Received: with LISTAR (v0.129a; list linux-dvb); Fri, 04 Jan 2002 22:40:00 +0100 (MET) Received: from anchor-post-34.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.92]) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16Mc4G-0002hP-00 for ; Fri, 04 Jan 2002 22:40:00 +0100 Received: from hackery.demon.co.uk ([194.222.197.211] helo=ray) by anchor-post-34.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 16Mc4A-000Q03-0Y; Fri, 4 Jan 2002 21:39:57 +0000 Message-ID: <00d901c19569$7aba02c0$d3c5dec2@ray> From: "Ray" To: "Stuart Butterfield" , References: <200201041910.g04JAG304560@flora.paracept.com.168.192.in-addr.arpa> <15414.7539.252522.625102@flora.paracept.com.168.192.in-addr.arpa> Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: DVB-T card and the UK Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2002 21:47:10 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-listar-version: Listar v0.129a Sender: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Errors-to: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org X-original-sender: ray.glendenning@hackery.demon.co.uk Precedence: bulk X-list: linux-dvb Thank you, just what I wanted to hear ;-) Ray ----- Original Message ----- From: Stuart Butterfield To: Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 9:24 PM Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: DVB-T card and the UK > I have both the Win-TV Nova-t and the Technotrend TT-DVB-T PCI card > working fine here in the UK (Oxford and Reigate transmitters). > > Stuart > > -- > Dr Stuart Butterfield T: +44 (0)1491 612619 / +44 (0)1293 815581 > Senior Scientist M: +44 (0)7736 350499 > Interactive Systems Group F: +44 (0)1293 815500 > Philips Research Labs E: stuart.butterfield@philips.com > > Ray writes: > > Hi > > > > Thanks for the prompt reply. I've already read the page given below and it > > only mentions using a hauppauge Nova card in the UK, although it says the > > driver works with the technotrend full card it doesn't mention if this will > > work in the UK. > > > > What I still need to know is if the Technotrend TT-DVB-T PCI will work in > > the UK (I could purchase one of these now from http://www.dvb-shop.de/ if it > > works). > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Ray > > To: Jon Folland > > Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 7:07 PM > > Subject: Re: [linux-dvb] Re: DVB-T card and the UK > > > > > > > Hi > > > > > > Thanks for the prompt reply. I've already read the page given below and > > it > > > only mentions using a hauppauge Nova card in the UK, although it says the > > > driver works with the technotrend full card it doesn't mention if this > > will > > > work in the UK. > > > > > > What I still need to know is if the Technotrend TT-DVB-T PCI will work in > > > the UK (I could purchase one of these now from http://www.dvb-shop.de/ if > > it > > > works). > > > > > > Cheers > > > Ray > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: Jon Folland > > > To: Ray ; > > > Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 6:49 PM > > > Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: DVB-T card and the UK > > > > > > > > > > http://www.linuxstb.org/dvb-t/index.html > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org > > > > [mailto:linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org]On Behalf Of Ray > > > > Sent: 04 January 2002 18:51 > > > > To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org > > > > Subject: [linux-dvb] DVB-T card and the UK > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi > > > > > > > > Could someone tell me what the difference is between a DVB-T card for > > the > > > UK > > > > and a normal one. I think that the UK uses COFDM on 2K and that most of > > > > Europe uses OFDM on 8K. The DVB-T cards from technotrend only mention > > > OFDM, > > > > but is this difference in the software or the hardware. > > > > > > > > The reason I'm asking this is because I'm wanting to full card but > > > Hauppauge > > > > are taking their time releasing a none budget version. The easiest way > > to > > > > tell if their is any difference in the hardware would be to compare a > > > > Hauppauge DVB-T Nova and a Technotrend DVB-T Budget as the Nova is the > > > only > > > > one currently available in the UK. > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > Ray > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Info: > > > > To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe > > > > linux-dvb" as subject. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Info: > > > > To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe > > > linux-dvb" as subject. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Info: > > To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. > > > > > -- > Info: > To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. > -- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Fri Jan 04 22:23:35 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mhonarc@limes.convergence.de Received: (qmail 24667 invoked by uid 0); 4 Jan 2002 22:23:35 -0000 Received: from chambertin.convergence.de (212.84.236.2) by limes.convergence.de with SMTP; 4 Jan 2002 22:23:35 -0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=chambertin) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16MccB-0004hW-00; Fri, 04 Jan 2002 23:15:03 +0100 Received: with LISTAR (v0.129a; list linux-dvb); Fri, 04 Jan 2002 23:14:51 +0100 (MET) Received: from mailrelay.netcologne.de ([194.8.194.96]) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16Mcbz-0004eD-00 for ; Fri, 04 Jan 2002 23:14:51 +0100 Received: from sheridan.metzler (dial-195-14-244-29.netcologne.de [195.14.244.29]) by mailrelay.netcologne.de (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g04MElN26852; Fri, 4 Jan 2002 23:14:47 +0100 (MET) Received: (from mocm@localhost) by sheridan.metzler (8.11.3/8.11.0/SuSE Linux 8.11.0-0.4) id g04MEar11998; Fri, 4 Jan 2002 23:14:36 +0100 From: Message-ID: <15414.10572.261678.249200@sheridan.metzler> Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2002 23:14:36 +0100 (CET) To: PSIplus Cc: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] TuxZap - A Systemwide Crash - Then nothing! In-Reply-To: <200201042137.3512@psiplus.cjb.net> References: <200201042137.3512@psiplus.cjb.net> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid Reply-To: Marcus Metzler X-Face: X!$Vwl\?,AW_[zm^ej\MLxN>q;R?C_sRZ*XE4V;BGT28Ewyd\:TS')W'G#Dgay8ci$*{lEd 02(Nk0OndG\752U>lozmb_R1poDm6mgHm_4.}bdS0hh.`xGUI.X2x_50T9.?_v~.,QI*$2:Q=HV@>F IP6%l~E:T|w,X[eC;|YD(A9X'sS"r$l]g<4CjAm4|f7o0>6zGwUPLinP0.d=E+_%?4>0A9'esEZ=9h $#b[g*/q/g'GVj-hDc,+V_]1.H^N,1Bju,>5FZn"B Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 1.6) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-listar-version: Listar v0.129a Sender: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Errors-to: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org X-original-sender: mocm@convergence.de Precedence: bulk X-list: linux-dvb PSIplus writes: > Hi! > > Another nice problem ;-) > > Anything worked well on my system, I watched TV in MPlayer... But then an > error appeard: My Main Display (where I watched TV) fell out, my second too. > > The system was not reacting on any inputs localy, but I could restart remote > (killing the displaymanager didn't help - it was some kind of hardware crash) > > After that TuxZap was unable to to anything... Driver loaded normally, but > tuxzap shows on each action "failture event : Success" and do nothing. > Nothing is coming thru the /dev/ost/dvr device anymore. > > What happend??? Maybe it's a heat problem. Try to let the machine cool down and than start again. Do you have an Athlon system? What kind of board and graphics card? Marcus -- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Fri Jan 04 22:26:06 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mhonarc@limes.convergence.de Received: (qmail 25034 invoked by uid 0); 4 Jan 2002 22:26:06 -0000 Received: from chambertin.convergence.de (212.84.236.2) by limes.convergence.de with SMTP; 4 Jan 2002 22:26:06 -0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=chambertin) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16Mcee-00050m-00; Fri, 04 Jan 2002 23:17:36 +0100 Received: with LISTAR (v0.129a; list linux-dvb); Fri, 04 Jan 2002 23:17:23 +0100 (MET) Received: from warsl401pip7.highway.telekom.at ([195.3.96.115] helo=email03.aon.at) by chambertin.convergence.de with smtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16MceR-0004w7-00 for ; Fri, 04 Jan 2002 23:17:23 +0100 Received: (qmail 500420 invoked from network); 4 Jan 2002 22:16:52 -0000 Received: from m303p005.adsl.highway.telekom.at (HELO there) ([62.47.165.197]) (envelope-sender ) by qmail3.highway.telekom.at (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 4 Jan 2002 22:16:52 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: PSIplus Organization: NetPhoenix Message-Id: <200201042315.33345@psiplus.cjb.net> To: Marcus Metzler Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: TuxZap - A Systemwide Crash - Then nothing! Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2002 23:16:52 +0100 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.2] Cc: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org References: <200201042137.3512@psiplus.cjb.net> <15414.10572.261678.249200@sheridan.metzler> In-Reply-To: <15414.10572.261678.249200@sheridan.metzler> Author: PSIplus X-Errors-To: PSIplus URL: http://www.netphoenix.at MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-listar-version: Listar v0.129a Sender: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Errors-to: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org X-original-sender: psiplus@gmx.net Precedence: bulk X-list: linux-dvb Hi! > > Another nice problem ;-) > > > > Anything worked well on my system, I watched TV in MPlayer... But th= en > 2> an error appeard: My Main Display (where I watched TV) fell out, my > > second too. > > > > The system was not reacting on any inputs localy, but I could restar= t > > remote (killing the displaymanager didn't help - it was some kind of > > hardware crash) > > > > After that TuxZap was unable to to anything... Driver loaded normall= y, > > but tuxzap shows on each action "failture event : Success" and do > > nothing. Nothing is coming thru the /dev/ost/dvr device anymore. > > > > What happend??? > > Maybe it's a heat problem. Try to let the machine cool down and than > start again. Do you have an Athlon system? What kind of board and > graphics card? Athlon 800 (Well cooled), ASUS A7S-VM with OnBoard SIS630 Graphicscard=20 (Display 0), S3 Virge (Display 1) I'll try... Martin --=20 --> PSIplus =20 --> ICQ... 57749465=20 --> Site... www.psiplus.org=20 --> Board... www.netphoenix.at=20 --> GnuPG Public Key... www.netphoenix.at/0/?loc=3D11 -- -- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Sat Jan 05 12:37:54 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mhonarc@limes.convergence.de Received: (qmail 12614 invoked by uid 0); 5 Jan 2002 12:37:53 -0000 Received: from chambertin.convergence.de (212.84.236.2) by limes.convergence.de with SMTP; 5 Jan 2002 12:37:53 -0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=chambertin) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16Mpwr-0008Ep-00; Sat, 05 Jan 2002 13:29:17 +0100 Received: with LISTAR (v0.129a; list linux-dvb); Sat, 05 Jan 2002 13:29:06 +0100 (MET) Received: from [202.96.44.20] (helo=smtp.263.net) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16Mpwg-0008Dh-00 for ; Sat, 05 Jan 2002 13:29:06 +0100 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.263.net (Postfix) with SMTP id AEF6D1DF4516A for ; Sat, 5 Jan 2002 20:24:53 +0800 (CST) Message-ID: <000701c195e3$92d2fc20$07040278@my> From: "Frank Ta" To: "liuxtv" Subject: [linux-dvb] Stay or try to move to Windows? Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2002 20:21:55 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 X-listar-version: Listar v0.129a Sender: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Errors-to: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org X-original-sender: frankta@263.net Precedence: bulk X-list: linux-dvb SGkgZXZlcnlib2R5LA0KICAgTm93IHRoYXQgdGhlIExpbnV4IHZlcnNpb24gZHJpdmVyIGFuZCBm aXJtd2FyZSBkb2VzIG5vdCBzdXBwb3J0IENBTXMgcHJvcGVybHkuIEkgaGF2ZSB0byB1c2UgVmlh Y2Nlc3MgUmVkIExhYmVsIENBTS5BbnkgcHJlcmVsZWFzZWQgdmVyc2lvbiB0byBzdXBwb2VyIHRo aXMgQ0FNLk9yIEkgaGF2ZSB0byBtb3ZlIHRvIFdpbiQgdG8gc2V0IHVwIGEgbmV3IEJveC5Ob3cg SSBnZXQgbW9yZSBpbmZvbWF0aW9uIGZyb20gd3d3LmR2YmZvcnVtLmNvbSAgYW5kIGhhdmUgZ290 IHRoZSBuZXcgdmVyc2lvbiBTREsgZnJvbSBUVC5XaXRoIHRoaXMgSSBjYW4gYWxzbyB3cml0ZSBt eSBmYXZvcml0ZSBzdHlsZSBwcm9ncmFtLg0KSSB3b25kZXIgaWYgSSB3aWxsIHN0YXkgdHVuZWQg d2l0aCBMaW51eFRWIG9yIG1vdmUgdG8gV2luZG93cyBhc2FwID8NCg0KDQpSZWdhcmRzLA0KRnJh bmt0YQ0K -- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Sat Jan 05 13:47:17 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mhonarc@limes.convergence.de Received: (qmail 4489 invoked by uid 0); 5 Jan 2002 13:47:16 -0000 Received: from chambertin.convergence.de (212.84.236.2) by limes.convergence.de with SMTP; 5 Jan 2002 13:47:16 -0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=chambertin) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16Mr28-0004o3-00; Sat, 05 Jan 2002 14:38:48 +0100 Received: with LISTAR (v0.129a; list linux-dvb); Sat, 05 Jan 2002 14:38:36 +0100 (MET) Received: from bird2.de.uu.net ([193.101.111.28]) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16MdtX-0001i4-00 for ; Sat, 05 Jan 2002 00:37:03 +0100 Received: from there (pec-181-102.tnt11.me.uunet.de [149.225.181.102]) by bird2.de.uu.net (5.5.5/5.5.5) with SMTP id AAA07351 for ; Sat, 5 Jan 2002 00:36:54 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <200201042336.AAA07351@bird2.de.uu.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" From: Oliver To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: Tuning problem with DVB-C and latest drivers Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2002 01:42:47 +0100 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.1] References: <006001c19544$96be1940$3200a8c0@oss> In-Reply-To: <006001c19544$96be1940$3200a8c0@oss> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Approved-By: dirk@convergence.de X-listar-version: Listar v0.129a Sender: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Errors-to: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org X-original-sender: dirk@convergence.de Precedence: bulk X-list: linux-dvb Am Freitag, 4. Januar 2002 18:23 schrieb Uwe: > Hello > > >Hello DVB-Developer > > > >> Hello, > >> > >> Newer driver versions (tested: 2001-11-17) break video tuning on my > >>Siemens > >> DVB-C Card with > >> both VDR and DTV. > >> I was using 2001-10-03 so far, which has the annoying side effect that > >> it needs about 15 minutes to tune correctly the first time I switch on > >> my machine (from then it works > >> well, even after rebooting, until I really power it off). > >> Loading the newer one first, removing it and then loading 2001-10-03 > >> rids me > >> of that problem. > >> But when using the new driver with VDR, the screen remains black. > >> make insmod tunes to ZDF.info correctly, but as soon as I start VDR the > >> screen turns black (sound is there). > > > > I have same problem as Stefan Schreiber. Until 2001-10-03 is no problem > > with the Driver for DVB-C. > > > > MFG ...Uwe > > with CVS-Driver from 04.01.2002 is same problem. > Wat is different in current to Driver from 20.09.2001 or 03.10.2001? > Hello I tried the new driver 04.01.2002 and have the same problem when the driver is load the Scart Connector is active and as soon as VDR (098,099pre1 )start's the Scart is disable sound and channel zapping work's switch back to the old driver 21.9.2001 the Scart out work's Fine MFG Oliver Lorei > !!Please help the DVB-C-User!! >Please help the DVB-C-User! > MFG .... Uwe -- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Sat Jan 05 17:26:56 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mhonarc@limes.convergence.de Received: (qmail 8878 invoked by uid 0); 5 Jan 2002 17:26:55 -0000 Received: from chambertin.convergence.de (212.84.236.2) by limes.convergence.de with SMTP; 5 Jan 2002 17:26:55 -0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=chambertin) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16MuSZ-0008Km-00; Sat, 05 Jan 2002 18:18:19 +0100 Received: with LISTAR (v0.129a; list linux-dvb); Sat, 05 Jan 2002 18:18:08 +0100 (MET) Received: from warsl401pip7.highway.telekom.at ([195.3.96.115] helo=email04.aon.at) by chambertin.convergence.de with smtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16MuSO-0008Fp-00 for ; Sat, 05 Jan 2002 18:18:08 +0100 Received: (qmail 469912 invoked from network); 5 Jan 2002 17:17:37 -0000 Received: from m289p018.adsl.highway.telekom.at (HELO there) ([62.47.164.18]) (envelope-sender ) by qmail4.highway.telekom.at (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 5 Jan 2002 17:17:37 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: PSIplus Organization: NetPhoenix Message-Id: <200201051816.35511@psiplus.cjb.net> To: Marcus Metzler Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: TuxZap - A Systemwide Crash - Then nothing! Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2002 18:17:36 +0100 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.2] Cc: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org References: <200201042137.3512@psiplus.cjb.net> <15414.10572.261678.249200@sheridan.metzler> <200201042315.33345@psiplus.cjb.net> In-Reply-To: <200201042315.33345@psiplus.cjb.net> Author: PSIplus X-Errors-To: PSIplus URL: http://www.netphoenix.at MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-listar-version: Listar v0.129a Sender: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Errors-to: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org X-original-sender: psiplus@gmx.net Precedence: bulk X-list: linux-dvb Hi! > > > Another nice problem ;-) > > > > > > Anything worked well on my system, I watched TV in MPlayer... But = then > > > > 2> an error appeard: My Main Display (where I watched TV) fell out, = my > > > > > second too. > > > > > > The system was not reacting on any inputs localy, but I could rest= art > > > remote (killing the displaymanager didn't help - it was some kind = of > > > hardware crash) > > > > > > After that TuxZap was unable to to anything... Driver loaded norma= lly, > > > but tuxzap shows on each action "failture event : Success" and do > > > nothing. Nothing is coming thru the /dev/ost/dvr device anymore. > > > > > > What happend??? > > > > Maybe it's a heat problem. Try to let the machine cool down and than > > start again. Do you have an Athlon system? What kind of board and > > graphics card? > > Athlon 800 (Well cooled), ASUS A7S-VM with OnBoard SIS630 Graphicscard > (Display 0), S3 Virge (Display 1) > > I'll try... It didn't help... What else could it be? Martin --=20 --> PSIplus =20 --> ICQ... 57749465=20 --> Site... www.psiplus.org=20 --> Board... www.netphoenix.at=20 --> GnuPG Public Key... www.netphoenix.at/0/?loc=3D11 -- -- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Sat Jan 05 19:32:58 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mhonarc@limes.convergence.de Received: (qmail 19928 invoked by uid 0); 5 Jan 2002 19:32:58 -0000 Received: from chambertin.convergence.de (212.84.236.2) by limes.convergence.de with SMTP; 5 Jan 2002 19:32:58 -0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=chambertin) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16MwQb-0007Cc-00; Sat, 05 Jan 2002 20:24:25 +0100 Received: with LISTAR (v0.129a; list linux-dvb); Sat, 05 Jan 2002 20:24:14 +0100 (MET) Received: from facade.firsthop.fi ([195.163.185.50] helo=factory.firsthop.fi) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16MwQQ-00079n-00 for ; Sat, 05 Jan 2002 20:24:14 +0100 Received: (from smile@localhost) by factory.firsthop.fi (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA31265 for linux-dvb@linuxtv.org; Sat, 5 Jan 2002 21:23:43 +0200 Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2002 21:23:43 +0200 From: Lauri Pesonen To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: Tuning problem Message-ID: <20020105212343.A31098@firsthop.com> Reply-To: lauri.pesonen@firsthop.com Mail-Followup-To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org References: <20020104094504.B398@firsthop.com> <15413.55572.424797.457019@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <20020104224153.A12307@firsthop.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20020104224153.A12307@firsthop.com>; from lauri.pesonen@firsthop.com on Fri, Jan 04, 2002 at 10:41:53PM +0200 X-listar-version: Listar v0.129a Sender: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Errors-to: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org X-original-sender: lauri.pesonen@firsthop.com Precedence: bulk X-list: linux-dvb An update, I tried tuning to the frequencies (below) with the TT windows software. A couple of times the software said that it found a signal and was not looking for PSI/SI tables (I'm not sure about PSI...running Linux again so I can't check). Then it moved to the next frequency and nothing was displayed on the channel list. At other times the software just complained about "no DVB signal". The channel frequencies below and in the software do not match perfectly. There are 1-2 MHz differences. Apparently my local cable provide uses a different frequency raster than TT thought about when designing the software. Thus I think that the windows software might not be able to tune correctly to the frequencies used by my cable provider. Then I tried it with Linux again. I changed the QAM setting from QAM_64 to QAM_128 in VDR and dtv_scan. It did not work. Neither of two programs found any channels. Today I added debug printing in order to take a look at the Front End Info with the following results: Jan 5 18:21:27 localhost vdr[1532]: FEINFO: minFreq = 500 Jan 5 18:21:27 localhost vdr[1532]: FEINFO: maxFreq = 2700000 Jan 5 18:21:27 localhost vdr[1532]: FEINFO: minSrate = 500000 Jan 5 18:21:27 localhost vdr[1532]: FEINFO: maxSrate = 30000000 Jan 5 18:21:27 localhost vdr[1532]: FEINFO: hwType = 0 Jan 5 18:21:27 localhost vdr[1532]: FEINFO: hwVersion = 0 Jan 5 18:21:27 localhost vdr[1532]: FEINFO: feType = FE_QPSK Pay special attention to the last line of the output. !! I HAVE A DVB-C CARD, IT SHOULD SAY FE_QAM !! As I see it, there are two possibilities: 1. The DVB driver is broken 2. TechnoTrend gave me a very weird DVB-C card (I have no experience with sat stuff, but AFAIK the connectors look different then the normal antenna connectors) Since I'm using the siemens_dvb-0.9-20010921 driver from Klaus' page (patched with the still image patch) and that same driver version works for others, I think that the driver is OK. Thus I'll probably have to get in touch with TechnoTrend on monday. Or does someone have any other suggestions? Just to make sure that VDR also thinks of my DVB-C card as a DVB-S card I added a log entry to DVB-S tuning cde which shows that VDR indeed tries to tune the card with DVB-S params. I should also mention that the both of my cards, the full-featured and the budget card, return FE_QPSK in Front End Info queries. -- Lauri On Fri, Jan 04, 2002 at 10:41:53PM +0200, Lauri Pesonen wrote: > > They should at least be able to tell you what modulation they > > use, if they use spectrum inversion, etc. > > Since the TT software also fails maybe they are using some kind of > > exotic setup. > > I got the following frequency list from them, so now I know what to look > for at least... : > > Freq. QAM Srate > 283 128 5,9 > 290 128 5,9 > 297 128 5,9 > > 146 128 6,9 > 154 128 6,9 > 162 64 6,9 > 170 128 6,9 -- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Sat Jan 05 19:42:13 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mhonarc@limes.convergence.de Received: (qmail 20557 invoked by uid 0); 5 Jan 2002 19:42:12 -0000 Received: from chambertin.convergence.de (212.84.236.2) by limes.convergence.de with SMTP; 5 Jan 2002 19:42:12 -0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=chambertin) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16MwZa-0008S6-00; Sat, 05 Jan 2002 20:33:42 +0100 Received: with LISTAR (v0.129a; list linux-dvb); Sat, 05 Jan 2002 20:33:30 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail.swelcom.fi ([194.100.33.13]) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16MwZO-0008OH-00 for ; Sat, 05 Jan 2002 20:33:30 +0100 Received: from swclus1.swelcom.swelcom.fi ([10.42.8.33]) by mail.swelcom.fi with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.3779); Sat, 5 Jan 2002 21:33:26 +0200 Received: by swclus1.swelcom.swelcom.fi with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Sat, 5 Jan 2002 21:33:26 +0200 Message-ID: <90D2243C3D0B8B4AB20FAA77AFD974B6373ED9@swclus1.swelcom.swelcom.fi> From: Falck Kenneth To: "'linux-dvb@linuxtv.org'" Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: Tuning problem Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2002 21:33:21 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Jan 2002 19:33:26.0259 (UTC) FILETIME=[D8720C30:01C1961F] X-listar-version: Listar v0.129a Sender: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Errors-to: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org X-original-sender: kennu@swelcom.fi Precedence: bulk X-list: linux-dvb Hello, I have also been experimenting with a TechnoTrend DVB-C PCI card on Windows and Linux. My experience is that even on Windows, using the TechnoTrend software, the card refuses to tune into any multiplex that uses a symbol rate of 6900 ksym/s! I really don't know why. Tuning to a 5900 ksym/s multiplex usually works and I get the tables and video OK under Windows. It also worked when the cable network was using 6000 ksym/s for these multiplexes. (This is the HTV network, I think you're here too, judging by your frequency list.) HOWEVER, I've never got the TechnoTrend card to tune to anything under Linux. I've tried the diffent zapping apps and also wrote a little program to do the tuning, but nothing has worked yet. I always get a FailureEvent which seems to indicate a frontend status of FE_SPECTRUM_INV | FE_HAS_LOCK | FE_HAS_VITERBI | FE_HAS_SYNC. Don't really know what that combination means, maybe I got some parameters wrong? I think I've tried just about every combination, though. Btw, HTV is using spectral inversion, so you'd better keep an eye out for that if you're here. The network is also developing all the time, so it's best not to rely on static frequency information for too long. The best way to keep up-to-date is to read the NIT data from the 162MHz multiplex (the "home" multiplex) and deduce other frequencies from there. PC-based software always seems a bit crappy on supporting this and requires manual information to be entered. ... PS. If anybody has a recommendation of another PCI or USB DVB-C adapter to use with Linux, I'd be glad to hear about it. The shops seem to be selling mostly DVB-T and DVB-S cards. Does Galaxis have a DVB-C card with good support under Linux? -- Kenneth Falck SWelcom Oy R&D Manager Ludviginkatu 6-8 +358 40 5103121 00130 Helsinki, Finland > -----Original Message----- > From: Lauri Pesonen [mailto:lauri.pesonen@firsthop.com] > Sent: 4. tammikuuta 2002 22:42 > To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org > Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: Tuning problem > > > On Fri, Jan 04, 2002 at 05:32:20PM +0100, Ralph Metzler wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I laso compiled VDR successfully. It starts and says > that it finds > > two DVB > > > cards. I tried usinf the provided channels.conf.cable > file, but the tuning > > > obviously fails since the frquencies are wrong. The > system log shows that > > > VDR tries to tune the card to the channel, so I'm > assuming that everything > > > is OK with the cards regardless of the error message > about the firmware. > > > > Tuning is independent of the firmware for DVB-C (in DVB-S > the firmware > > handles DiSEqC). Still it would be helpful to know what it said. > > Here's the whole system log when loading the modules: > > Jan 4 22:19:58 localhost kernel: i2c-core.o: i2c core module > Jan 4 22:19:58 localhost kernel: Linux video capture > interface: v1.00 Jan 4 22:19:58 localhost kernel: > i2c-core.o: driver VES1893 DVB > demodulator registered. > Jan 4 22:19:58 localhost kernel: i2c-core.o: driver VES1820 DVB > demodulator registered. > Jan 4 22:19:58 localhost kernel: i2c-core.o: driver L64781 DVB > demodulator registered. > Jan 4 22:19:58 localhost kernel: L64781: init done > Jan 4 22:19:58 localhost kernel: i2c-core.o: driver tda8083 DVB > demodulator registered. > Jan 4 22:19:58 localhost kernel: i2c-core.o: driver stv0299 DVB > demodulator registered. > Jan 4 22:19:58 localhost kernel: i2c-core.o: driver i2c TV > tuner driver > registered. > Jan 4 22:19:59 localhost kernel: saa7146_core.o: saa7146(1): bus:0, > rev:1, mem:0xd08db000. > Jan 4 22:19:59 localhost kernel: L64781: no L64781 found ... > Jan 4 22:19:59 localhost kernel: i2c-core.o: adapter saa7146(1) > registered as adapter 0. > Jan 4 22:19:59 localhost kernel: saa7146_core.o: saa7146(2): bus:0, > rev:1, mem:0xd0d5e000. > Jan 4 22:19:59 localhost kernel: L64781: no L64781 found ... > Jan 4 22:19:59 localhost kernel: i2c-core.o: adapter saa7146(2) > registered as adapter 1. > Jan 4 22:20:07 localhost kernel: wait-for-debi-done maxwait: > 500000 Jan 4 22:20:07 localhost kernel: dvb: debi test in > bootarm() failed: > 00000000 != 10325476 > Jan 4 22:20:07 localhost kernel: dvb1: AV711536924483 - firm > 1d18c010, > rtsl 20000003, vid 20000003, app 00000000 > Jan 4 22:20:07 localhost kernel: dvb: 2 dvb(s) found! > > I'm under the impression that I should see an image on the > composite out > when I load the driver. This is not the case... > > > > I'll get in touch with the cable company next ;) > > > > They should at least be able to tell you what modulation > they use, if > > they use spectrum inversion, etc. Since the TT software also fails > > maybe they are using some kind of exotic setup. > > I got the following frequency list from them, so now I know > what to look > for at least... : > > Freq. QAM Srate > 283 128 5,9 > 290 128 5,9 > 297 128 5,9 > > 146 128 6,9 > 154 128 6,9 > 162 64 6,9 > 170 128 6,9 > > > Additionally I was instructed by one of the list subscribers > to get this > stuff working on Windows first. He suggested that I should strip > everything out of my PC and try to get the cards working. I > think I'll do > that before venturing into the Linux world again... > > Thanks for all the help guys! I can't wait to get everything > working ;) > > > Ralph > > -- Lauri > > > -- > Info: > To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with > "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. > -- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Sat Jan 05 21:33:55 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mhonarc@limes.convergence.de Received: (qmail 26359 invoked by uid 0); 5 Jan 2002 21:33:55 -0000 Received: from chambertin.convergence.de (212.84.236.2) by limes.convergence.de with SMTP; 5 Jan 2002 21:33:55 -0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=chambertin) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16MyJe-0006oc-00; Sat, 05 Jan 2002 22:25:22 +0100 Received: with LISTAR (v0.129a; list linux-dvb); Sat, 05 Jan 2002 22:25:11 +0100 (MET) Received: from tistel.levonline.com ([193.15.191.243] helo=hunden.levonline.com) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16MyJT-0006nt-00 for ; Sat, 05 Jan 2002 22:25:11 +0100 Received: from knatte (h43n1fls32o808.telia.com [213.66.243.43]) (authenticated) by hunden.levonline.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g05LP6n04894; Sat, 5 Jan 2002 22:25:06 +0100 From: "Stefan Norberg" To: "Falck Kenneth" , Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: Tuning problem Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2002 22:24:58 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <90D2243C3D0B8B4AB20FAA77AFD974B6373ED9@swclus1.swelcom.swelcom.fi> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Importance: Normal X-listar-version: Listar v0.129a Sender: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Errors-to: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org X-original-sender: stefan@orbisec.com Precedence: bulk X-list: linux-dvb >From personal experience and from following this list for a while I think it's pretty clear that the TT-DVB-C-card does not work with any version of the Linux driver. Unfortunately, the information on linuxtv.org and on technotrend's home page (claiming that there is a working driver for the TT-DVB-C card) is incorrect and should, imho, be removed. I would personally have tried harder to get a Siemens card if I haven't been misled by this fact. I'm also surprised by the uninterest from both Techonotrend and the driver developers at Convergence to fix this or even to provide input or hint on this issue. I'm running WatchTVPro on Windows now. Very promising and rapidly developing s/w. Works great. Regards, Stefan Norberg -----Original Message----- From: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org [mailto:linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org]On Behalf Of Falck Kenneth Sent: den 5 januari 2002 20:33 To: 'linux-dvb@linuxtv.org' Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: Tuning problem Hello, I have also been experimenting with a TechnoTrend DVB-C PCI card on Windows and Linux. My experience is that even on Windows, using the TechnoTrend software, the card refuses to tune into any multiplex that uses a symbol rate of 6900 ksym/s! I really don't know why. Tuning to a 5900 ksym/s multiplex usually works and I get the tables and video OK under Windows. It also worked when the cable network was using 6000 ksym/s for these multiplexes. (This is the HTV network, I think you're here too, judging by your frequency list.) HOWEVER, I've never got the TechnoTrend card to tune to anything under Linux. I've tried the diffent zapping apps and also wrote a little program to do the tuning, but nothing has worked yet. I always get a FailureEvent which seems to indicate a frontend status of FE_SPECTRUM_INV | FE_HAS_LOCK | FE_HAS_VITERBI | FE_HAS_SYNC. Don't really know what that combination means, maybe I got some parameters wrong? I think I've tried just about every combination, though. Btw, HTV is using spectral inversion, so you'd better keep an eye out for that if you're here. The network is also developing all the time, so it's best not to rely on static frequency information for too long. The best way to keep up-to-date is to read the NIT data from the 162MHz multiplex (the "home" multiplex) and deduce other frequencies from there. PC-based software always seems a bit crappy on supporting this and requires manual information to be entered. ... PS. If anybody has a recommendation of another PCI or USB DVB-C adapter to use with Linux, I'd be glad to hear about it. The shops seem to be selling mostly DVB-T and DVB-S cards. Does Galaxis have a DVB-C card with good support under Linux? -- Kenneth Falck SWelcom Oy R&D Manager Ludviginkatu 6-8 +358 40 5103121 00130 Helsinki, Finland > -----Original Message----- > From: Lauri Pesonen [mailto:lauri.pesonen@firsthop.com] > Sent: 4. tammikuuta 2002 22:42 > To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org > Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: Tuning problem > > > On Fri, Jan 04, 2002 at 05:32:20PM +0100, Ralph Metzler wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I laso compiled VDR successfully. It starts and says > that it finds > > two DVB > > > cards. I tried usinf the provided channels.conf.cable > file, but the tuning > > > obviously fails since the frquencies are wrong. The > system log shows that > > > VDR tries to tune the card to the channel, so I'm > assuming that everything > > > is OK with the cards regardless of the error message > about the firmware. > > > > Tuning is independent of the firmware for DVB-C (in DVB-S > the firmware > > handles DiSEqC). Still it would be helpful to know what it said. > > Here's the whole system log when loading the modules: > > Jan 4 22:19:58 localhost kernel: i2c-core.o: i2c core module > Jan 4 22:19:58 localhost kernel: Linux video capture > interface: v1.00 Jan 4 22:19:58 localhost kernel: > i2c-core.o: driver VES1893 DVB > demodulator registered. > Jan 4 22:19:58 localhost kernel: i2c-core.o: driver VES1820 DVB > demodulator registered. > Jan 4 22:19:58 localhost kernel: i2c-core.o: driver L64781 DVB > demodulator registered. > Jan 4 22:19:58 localhost kernel: L64781: init done > Jan 4 22:19:58 localhost kernel: i2c-core.o: driver tda8083 DVB > demodulator registered. > Jan 4 22:19:58 localhost kernel: i2c-core.o: driver stv0299 DVB > demodulator registered. > Jan 4 22:19:58 localhost kernel: i2c-core.o: driver i2c TV > tuner driver > registered. > Jan 4 22:19:59 localhost kernel: saa7146_core.o: saa7146(1): bus:0, > rev:1, mem:0xd08db000. > Jan 4 22:19:59 localhost kernel: L64781: no L64781 found ... > Jan 4 22:19:59 localhost kernel: i2c-core.o: adapter saa7146(1) > registered as adapter 0. > Jan 4 22:19:59 localhost kernel: saa7146_core.o: saa7146(2): bus:0, > rev:1, mem:0xd0d5e000. > Jan 4 22:19:59 localhost kernel: L64781: no L64781 found ... > Jan 4 22:19:59 localhost kernel: i2c-core.o: adapter saa7146(2) > registered as adapter 1. > Jan 4 22:20:07 localhost kernel: wait-for-debi-done maxwait: > 500000 Jan 4 22:20:07 localhost kernel: dvb: debi test in > bootarm() failed: > 00000000 != 10325476 > Jan 4 22:20:07 localhost kernel: dvb1: AV711536924483 - firm > 1d18c010, > rtsl 20000003, vid 20000003, app 00000000 > Jan 4 22:20:07 localhost kernel: dvb: 2 dvb(s) found! > > I'm under the impression that I should see an image on the > composite out > when I load the driver. This is not the case... > > > > I'll get in touch with the cable company next ;) > > > > They should at least be able to tell you what modulation > they use, if > > they use spectrum inversion, etc. Since the TT software also fails > > maybe they are using some kind of exotic setup. > > I got the following frequency list from them, so now I know > what to look > for at least... : > > Freq. QAM Srate > 283 128 5,9 > 290 128 5,9 > 297 128 5,9 > > 146 128 6,9 > 154 128 6,9 > 162 64 6,9 > 170 128 6,9 > > > Additionally I was instructed by one of the list subscribers > to get this > stuff working on Windows first. He suggested that I should strip > everything out of my PC and try to get the cards working. I > think I'll do > that before venturing into the Linux world again... > > Thanks for all the help guys! I can't wait to get everything > working ;) > > > Ralph > > -- Lauri > > > -- > Info: > To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with > "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. > -- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. -- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Sat Jan 05 23:41:18 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mhonarc@limes.convergence.de Received: (qmail 1084 invoked by uid 0); 5 Jan 2002 23:41:18 -0000 Received: from chambertin.convergence.de (212.84.236.2) by limes.convergence.de with SMTP; 5 Jan 2002 23:41:18 -0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=chambertin) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16N0Is-0005sc-00; Sun, 06 Jan 2002 00:32:42 +0100 Received: with LISTAR (v0.129a; list linux-dvb); Sun, 06 Jan 2002 00:32:31 +0100 (MET) Received: from clever.eusc.inter.net ([213.73.101.4]) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16N0Ih-0005pO-00 for ; Sun, 06 Jan 2002 00:32:31 +0100 Received: from pd9eb0439.dip0.t-ipconnect.de ([217.235.4.57] helo=mmhost2000) by clever.eusc.inter.net with asmtp (Exim 3.22 #3) id 16N0Ig-0004XA-00 for linux-dvb@linuxtv.org; Sun, 06 Jan 2002 00:32:30 +0100 From: "Christoph-Sebastian Oesterheld" To: Subject: [linux-dvb] 16-bit or 18-bit PCM output precision selected in firmware? Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2002 00:32:54 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2462.0000 X-listar-version: Listar v0.129a Sender: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Errors-to: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org X-original-sender: coesterheld@snafu.de Precedence: bulk X-list: linux-dvb Hello driver developers! Wich setting use the firmware for the PCMSEL bit 1 of the audio decoder control register (AUD_CTRL_REG) in the TMS320AV7110: a) 0 for 16-bit PCM output or b) 1 for 18-bit PCM output (default)? This difference is very important for the 16-bit Audio-DAC of my Siemens DVB-C (rev. 1.5), the AKM AK4309B (http://www.asahi-kasei.co.jp/akm/en/product/ak4309b/ak4309b.html). The sound of the analog output of the Siemens DVB-C is not very good (like an old 8-bit soundcard). In contrast the sound of the SPDIF output is much better (tested with an external connected DAC). I have compared the specs of the DSP and the DAC: In 18-bit PCM output mode, the audio decoder produce an 24-bit stream on the PCM output. The first 6 bits are zero, followed by the 18-bit PCM value. The Audio-DAC ignores all preceding bits of an PCM bit stream with more than 16 bits. As a result the Audio DAC processed the lower 16 bits of the 18-bit PCM values and this is could be the reason for the badly sound. Over again, wich output precision use the firmware? Can I force the 16-bit PCM output mode? Perhaps my estimation is not correct an you have a better explanation? greeting Christoph Oesterheld -- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Sun Jan 06 05:43:13 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mhonarc@limes.convergence.de Received: (qmail 26441 invoked by uid 0); 6 Jan 2002 05:43:13 -0000 Received: from chambertin.convergence.de (212.84.236.2) by limes.convergence.de with SMTP; 6 Jan 2002 05:43:13 -0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=chambertin) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16N5xA-0006nI-00; Sun, 06 Jan 2002 06:34:40 +0100 Received: with LISTAR (v0.129a; list linux-dvb); Sun, 06 Jan 2002 06:34:29 +0100 (MET) Received: from dial-195-14-251-139.netcologne.de ([195.14.251.139] helo=rjkm.de) by chambertin.convergence.de with TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168 encrypted esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16N5wy-0006lM-00 for ; Sun, 06 Jan 2002 06:34:29 +0100 Received: (from rjkm@localhost) by rjkm.de (8.12.0.Beta19/8.12.0.Beta19) id g065YJZs003943; Sun, 6 Jan 2002 06:34:19 +0100 From: Ralph Metzler Message-ID: <15415.57819.225226.101795@gargle.gargle.HOWL> Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2002 06:34:19 +0100 To: "Stefan Norberg" Cc: "Falck Kenneth" , Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: Tuning problem In-Reply-To: References: <90D2243C3D0B8B4AB20FAA77AFD974B6373ED9@swclus1.swelcom.swelcom.fi> X-Mailer: VM 6.95 under 21.4 (patch 4) "Artificial Intelligence" XEmacs Lucid Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 1.8) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-listar-version: Listar v0.129a Sender: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Errors-to: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org X-original-sender: rjkm@convergence.de Precedence: bulk X-list: linux-dvb Stefan Norberg writes: > >From personal experience and from following this list for a while I think > it's > pretty clear that the TT-DVB-C-card does not work with any version of the > Linux > driver. > > Unfortunately, the information on linuxtv.org and on technotrend's home page > (claiming that there is a working driver for the TT-DVB-C card) is incorrect > and should, imho, be removed. I would personally have tried harder to get a > Siemens card if I haven't been misled by this fact. I was under the impression from earlier reports (on the list and/or through mail to me) that the TT DVB-C card worked. Maybe they changed the hardware? Somebody here talked about a 2.x version of the DVB-C card? > I'm also surprised by the uninterest from both Techonotrend and the driver > developers at Convergence to fix this or even to provide input or hint > on this issue. AFAIR, Technotrend never cared about Linux drivers at all. I never received any information about their hardware from them. (This is true for ALL card manufacturers except Siemens.) So, why are you surprised now? We are also not interested in supporting each and every version of the DVB cards, especially if we don't even have a sample card and won't get any kind of help by the manufacturer to program the new chips which might be on those cards. Please explain exactly why we should be interested in supporting such cards? All I can do for now is to add a note on our WWW page that not all card versions of all vendors work with the driver. In 4 weeks all this will probably be a moot point anyway and all I will be able to support then is a version 1.3 DVB-S card. Ralph -- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Sun Jan 06 09:57:51 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mhonarc@limes.convergence.de Received: (qmail 11804 invoked by uid 0); 6 Jan 2002 09:57:51 -0000 Received: from chambertin.convergence.de (212.84.236.2) by limes.convergence.de with SMTP; 6 Jan 2002 09:57:51 -0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=chambertin) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16N9vR-0001q1-00; Sun, 06 Jan 2002 10:49:09 +0100 Received: with LISTAR (v0.129a; list linux-dvb); Sun, 06 Jan 2002 10:48:56 +0100 (MET) Received: from facade.firsthop.fi ([195.163.185.50] helo=factory.firsthop.fi) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16N9vD-0001kQ-00 for ; Sun, 06 Jan 2002 10:48:56 +0100 Received: (from smile@localhost) by factory.firsthop.fi (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA12071 for linux-dvb@linuxtv.org; Sun, 6 Jan 2002 11:48:25 +0200 Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2002 11:48:25 +0200 From: Lauri Pesonen To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: Tuning problem Message-ID: <20020106114825.B12045@firsthop.com> Reply-To: lauri.pesonen@firsthop.com Mail-Followup-To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org References: <90D2243C3D0B8B4AB20FAA77AFD974B6373ED9@swclus1.swelcom.swelcom.fi> <15415.57819.225226.101795@gargle.gargle.HOWL> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <15415.57819.225226.101795@gargle.gargle.HOWL>; from rjkm@convergence.de on Sun, Jan 06, 2002 at 06:34:19AM +0100 X-listar-version: Listar v0.129a Sender: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Errors-to: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org X-original-sender: lauri.pesonen@firsthop.com Precedence: bulk X-list: linux-dvb On Sun, Jan 06, 2002 at 06:34:19AM +0100, Ralph Metzler wrote: > Stefan Norberg writes: > > >From personal experience and from following this list for a while I think > > it's > > pretty clear that the TT-DVB-C-card does not work with any version of the > > Linux > > driver. > > > > Unfortunately, the information on linuxtv.org and on technotrend's home page > > (claiming that there is a working driver for the TT-DVB-C card) is incorrect > > and should, imho, be removed. I would personally have tried harder to get a > > Siemens card if I haven't been misled by this fact. > > I was under the impression from earlier reports (on the list and/or > through mail to me) that the TT DVB-C card worked. Maybe they changed > the hardware? Somebody here talked about a 2.x version of the DVB-C > card? Based on the linuxtv.org web pages and the mailinglists I was under the impression that the TT DVB-C card would work with the linux driver. Yesterday it occurred to me that most DVB-C users on the list probably have a Siemens card and thus the problems with TT's card have not been found out earlier. !! Is there anyone on the list who has a TT DVB-C card working with the linuxtv.org DVB driver !! My card has a "C-rev2.1" sticker on it. This is the same card that is identified as DVB-S by the linuxtv.org driver. > > I'm also surprised by the uninterest from both Techonotrend and the driver > > developers at Convergence to fix this or even to provide input or hint > > on this issue. > > AFAIR, Technotrend never cared about Linux drivers at all. I > never received any information about their hardware from them. > (This is true for ALL card manufacturers except Siemens.) > So, why are you surprised now? > I understand that its hardand frustrating to support cards that you do not personally have access to. > We are also not interested in supporting each and every version of the > DVB cards, especially if we don't even have a sample card and won't > get any kind of help by the manufacturer to program the new chips > which might be on those cards. > Please explain exactly why we should be interested in supporting > such cards? IMHO if you claim to develop a driver a driver which supports e.g. Siemens DVB-C cards, then you should at least try to support new card versions. Especially since from the consumers point of view the card revisions aren't really that visible. That is, people don't know automatically which card revision they are buying. But since this is open source software, I understand that you cannot do everything. Come to think of it, I'm not sure whether you claim to support any card... I'm just pissed at the moment since I was under the impression (my mistake) that the driver would work with all TT-based DVB cards. Now you are telling me that the driver will work with TT-based rev1.3 DVB-S cards only. Interworking with other cards will be an accident. > All I can do for now is to add a note on our WWW page that not > all card versions of all vendors work with the driver. > In 4 weeks all this will probably be a moot point anyway and all I > will be able to support then is a version 1.3 DVB-S card. That's a pitty since I'd assume that the user group will probably not grow from this in the future. I'm assuming that rev1.3 cards aren't available any more... TT claims to have a linux driver for their cards on request. I'll email them and see what they answer. If the driver is crap, we could all (or at least the TT DVB-C card owners) send an email to TT requesting them to support Ralph in the driver development. Please note, that I'm very interested in getting the driver to support TT DVB-C cards, so I'd be very interested and willing to help in this project. > Ralph -- Lauri -- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Sun Jan 06 10:25:03 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mhonarc@limes.convergence.de Received: (qmail 21328 invoked by uid 0); 6 Jan 2002 10:25:03 -0000 Received: from chambertin.convergence.de (212.84.236.2) by limes.convergence.de with SMTP; 6 Jan 2002 10:25:03 -0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=chambertin) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16NALt-0003WM-00; Sun, 06 Jan 2002 11:16:29 +0100 Received: with LISTAR (v0.129a; list linux-dvb); Sun, 06 Jan 2002 11:16:17 +0100 (MET) Received: from smtp018.mail.yahoo.com ([216.136.174.115]) by chambertin.convergence.de with smtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16NALh-0003SX-00 for ; Sun, 06 Jan 2002 11:16:17 +0100 Received: from pd9e2bfc6.dip.t-dialin.net (HELO there) (217.226.191.198) by smtp.mail.vip.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 6 Jan 2002 10:16:14 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Andreas =?iso-8859-1?q?R=F6ver?= Reply-To: andreas_roever@yahoo.com To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: Tuning problem Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2002 10:58:25 +0100 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.1] References: <90D2243C3D0B8B4AB20FAA77AFD974B6373ED9@swclus1.swelcom.swelcom.fi> <15415.57819.225226.101795@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <20020106114825.B12045@firsthop.com> In-Reply-To: <20020106114825.B12045@firsthop.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: X-listar-version: Listar v0.129a Sender: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Errors-to: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org X-original-sender: andreas_roever@yahoo.com Precedence: bulk X-list: linux-dvb > That's a pitty since I'd assume that the user group will probably not grow > from this in the future. I'm assuming that rev1.3 cards aren't available > any more... > > TT claims to have a linux driver for their cards on request. I'll email > them and see what they answer. If the driver is crap, we could all (or at > least the TT DVB-C card owners) send an email to TT requesting them to > support Ralph in the driver development. > > Please note, that I'm very interested in getting the driver to support > TT DVB-C cards, so I'd be very interested and willing to help in this > project. I can only agree. It seems that I did ther very same thing with the very same believes, so I am in the same situation. I didn't even have a running Windows on my Computer and installed one just to see if the card is working at all. So I will try my very best to get the card running Andreas _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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From linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Sun Jan 06 11:16:21 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mhonarc@limes.convergence.de Received: (qmail 7804 invoked by uid 0); 6 Jan 2002 11:16:21 -0000 Received: from chambertin.convergence.de (212.84.236.2) by limes.convergence.de with SMTP; 6 Jan 2002 11:16:21 -0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=chambertin) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16NB9a-0006W3-00; Sun, 06 Jan 2002 12:07:50 +0100 Received: with LISTAR (v0.129a; list linux-dvb); Sun, 06 Jan 2002 12:07:36 +0100 (MET) Received: from mout0.freenet.de ([194.97.50.131] ident=exim) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16NB9L-0006QW-00 for ; Sun, 06 Jan 2002 12:07:35 +0100 Received: from [194.97.50.135] (helo=mx2.freenet.de) by mout0.freenet.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #3) id 16NB9D-0003Le-00 for linux-dvb@linuxtv.org; Sun, 06 Jan 2002 12:07:27 +0100 Received: from b3009.pppool.de ([213.7.48.9] helo=master.athome.de) by mx2.freenet.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #3) id 16NB9D-0006dm-00 for linux-dvb@linuxtv.org; Sun, 06 Jan 2002 12:07:27 +0100 Received: (from news@localhost) by master.athome.de (8.11.2/8.11.2/SuSE Linux 8.11.1-0.5) id g05HYXL27054 for linux-dvb@linuxtv.org; Sat, 5 Jan 2002 18:34:33 +0100 To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Path: not-for-mail From: s.huelswitt@gmx.de (Stefan Huelswitt) Newsgroups: local.linux.dvb Subject: [linux-dvb] New samplerates in CVS driver Date: 5 Jan 2002 17:34:33 GMT Organization: Home, sweet home Lines: 11 Message-ID: Reply-To: huels@iname.com NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: master.athome.de 1010252073 27031 127.0.0.1 (5 Jan 2002 17:34:33 GMT) X-Complaints-To: huels@iname.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 5 Jan 2002 17:34:33 GMT X-Newsreader: knews 1.0b.1 X-listar-version: Listar v0.129a Sender: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Errors-to: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org X-original-sender: s.huelswitt@gmx.de Precedence: bulk X-list: linux-dvb Hi, from the CVS changes I see that there was added support for 44 & 32 kHz audio. Does this mean that I'm able to play PCM audio with these samplerates now? If yes, how is this done from application level? TIA -- Stefan Huelswitt huels@iname.com | http://home.pages.de/~nathan -- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Sun Jan 06 11:25:51 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mhonarc@limes.convergence.de Received: (qmail 8429 invoked by uid 0); 6 Jan 2002 11:25:51 -0000 Received: from chambertin.convergence.de (212.84.236.2) by limes.convergence.de with SMTP; 6 Jan 2002 11:25:51 -0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=chambertin) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16NBIl-0007Aa-00; Sun, 06 Jan 2002 12:17:19 +0100 Received: with LISTAR (v0.129a; list linux-dvb); Sun, 06 Jan 2002 12:17:07 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail.icem.de ([194.175.115.14] helo=gateway.hnv.icem.de) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16NBIY-000760-00 for ; Sun, 06 Jan 2002 12:17:06 +0100 Received: from willina.icem.ptc.com (root@[158.225.3.93]) by gateway.hnv.icem.de (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id MAA14267 for ; Sun, 6 Jan 2002 12:17:14 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: gateway.hnv.icem.de: Host root@[158.225.3.93] claimed to be willina.icem.ptc.com Received: from wald.hnv.icem.de ([158.225.25.1]) by willina.icem.ptc.com (8.12.1/8.12.1/Debian -2) with ESMTP id g06B7YVc018035 for ; Sun, 6 Jan 2002 12:09:13 +0100 Received: from icem.de (wald.hnv.icem.de [158.225.25.1]) by wald.hnv.icem.de (SGI-8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA20539 for ; Sun, 6 Jan 2002 11:59:26 +0100 (MET) Sender: Carsten.Koch@icem.de Message-ID: <3C382E0E.5A8CD947@icem.de> Date: Sun, 06 Jan 2002 11:59:26 +0100 From: Carsten Koch Organization: ICEM Technologies GmbH X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79C-SGI [en] (X11; U; IRIX 6.5 IP32) X-Accept-Language: de, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: Tuning problem References: <90D2243C3D0B8B4AB20FAA77AFD974B6373ED9@swclus1.swelcom.swelcom.fi> <15415.57819.225226.101795@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <20020106114825.B12045@firsthop.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS-perl11-milter (http://amavis.org/) X-listar-version: Listar v0.129a Sender: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Errors-to: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org X-original-sender: Carsten.Koch@icem.de Precedence: bulk X-list: linux-dvb Lauri Pesonen wrote: ... > TT claims to have a linux driver for their cards on request. I'll email > them and see what they answer. If the driver is crap, we could all (or at > least the TT DVB-C card owners) send an email to TT requesting them to > support Ralph in the driver development. I believe that would be a good idea in any event. Can you organize it? I.e. find the e-mail address of a person at TT who might care and who might have an influence on decisions (not a general address like info@technotrend.de that may lead to a call center or a secretary). Carsten. -- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Sun Jan 06 11:52:38 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mhonarc@limes.convergence.de Received: (qmail 18200 invoked by uid 0); 6 Jan 2002 11:52:38 -0000 Received: from chambertin.convergence.de (212.84.236.2) by limes.convergence.de with SMTP; 6 Jan 2002 11:52:38 -0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=chambertin) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16NBig-0000Ra-00; Sun, 06 Jan 2002 12:44:06 +0100 Received: with LISTAR (v0.129a; list linux-dvb); Sun, 06 Jan 2002 12:43:54 +0100 (MET) Received: from mailrelay.netcologne.de ([194.8.194.96]) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16NBiT-0000Nl-00 for ; Sun, 06 Jan 2002 12:43:54 +0100 Received: from sheridan.metzler (dial-195-14-244-96.netcologne.de [195.14.244.96]) by mailrelay.netcologne.de (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g06BhoN27559; Sun, 6 Jan 2002 12:43:50 +0100 (MET) Received: (from mocm@localhost) by sheridan.metzler (8.11.3/8.11.0/SuSE Linux 8.11.0-0.4) id g06BgHU24348; Sun, 6 Jan 2002 12:42:17 +0100 From: Message-ID: <15416.14361.486135.96753@sheridan.metzler> Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2002 12:42:17 +0100 (CET) To: huels@iname.com Cc: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] New samplerates in CVS driver Newsgroups: local.linux.dvb In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid Reply-To: Marcus Metzler X-Face: X!$Vwl\?,AW_[zm^ej\MLxN>q;R?C_sRZ*XE4V;BGT28Ewyd\:TS')W'G#Dgay8ci$*{lEd 02(Nk0OndG\752U>lozmb_R1poDm6mgHm_4.}bdS0hh.`xGUI.X2x_50T9.?_v~.,QI*$2:Q=HV@>F IP6%l~E:T|w,X[eC;|YD(A9X'sS"r$l]g<4CjAm4|f7o0>6zGwUPLinP0.d=E+_%?4>0A9'esEZ=9h $#b[g*/q/g'GVj-hDc,+V_]1.H^N,1Bju,>5FZn"B Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 1.6) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-listar-version: Listar v0.129a Sender: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Errors-to: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org X-original-sender: mocm@convergence.de Precedence: bulk X-list: linux-dvb Stefan Huelswitt writes: > Hi, > from the CVS changes I see that there was added support for 44 & > 32 kHz audio. Does this mean that I'm able to play PCM audio with > these samplerates now? If yes, how is this done from application > level? The LPCM header, which follows in the PES payload right after the PES header, is as follows: id 8 bit number of frames 8 bit first acces unit pointer, i.e. start of audio frame 16 bit audio emphasis on-off 1 bit audio mute on-off 1 bit reserved 1 bit audio frame number 5 bit quantization word length 2 bit audio sampling frequency (48khz = 0, 96khz = 1) 2 bit <--- reserved 1 bit number of audio channels - 1 (e.g. stereo = 1) 3 bit dynamic range control (0x80 if off) 8 bit The driver for the DVB card ignores all but the sample frequency bits. We added the new frequencies to the header as 44kHz = 2 and 32kHz = 3. I added support for that to ntuxplayer. You can find a routine called pcm_play in apps/tuxzap/src/dvb_formats.c in the driver package. The LPCM PES cannot be larger than 2048 bytes right now. Marcus -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- Dr. Marcus Metzler mocm@netcologne.de http://www.metzlerbros.de mocm@convergence.de http://www.convergence.de Convergence Integrated Media GmbH Rosenthaler Str. 51 D-10178 Berlin --------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Sun Jan 06 12:06:14 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mhonarc@limes.convergence.de Received: (qmail 22829 invoked by uid 0); 6 Jan 2002 12:06:14 -0000 Received: from chambertin.convergence.de (212.84.236.2) by limes.convergence.de with SMTP; 6 Jan 2002 12:06:14 -0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=chambertin) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16NBvn-0001Ab-00; Sun, 06 Jan 2002 12:57:39 +0100 Received: with LISTAR (v0.129a; list linux-dvb); Sun, 06 Jan 2002 12:57:26 +0100 (MET) Received: from dial-195-14-244-96.netcologne.de ([195.14.244.96] helo=rjkm.de) by chambertin.convergence.de with TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168 encrypted esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16NBvP-00016O-00 for ; Sun, 06 Jan 2002 12:57:25 +0100 Received: (from rjkm@localhost) by rjkm.de (8.12.0.Beta19/8.12.0.Beta19) id g06BrFMe000917; Sun, 6 Jan 2002 12:53:15 +0100 From: Ralph Metzler Message-ID: <15416.15019.359692.222159@gargle.gargle.HOWL> Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2002 12:53:15 +0100 To: lauri.pesonen@firsthop.com Cc: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: Tuning problem In-Reply-To: <20020106114825.B12045@firsthop.com> References: <90D2243C3D0B8B4AB20FAA77AFD974B6373ED9@swclus1.swelcom.swelcom.fi> <15415.57819.225226.101795@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <20020106114825.B12045@firsthop.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.95 under 21.4 (patch 4) "Artificial Intelligence" XEmacs Lucid Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 1.8) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-listar-version: Listar v0.129a Sender: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Errors-to: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org X-original-sender: rjkm@convergence.de Precedence: bulk X-list: linux-dvb Lauri Pesonen writes: > On Sun, Jan 06, 2002 at 06:34:19AM +0100, Ralph Metzler wrote: > > Stefan Norberg writes: > > > >From personal experience and from following this list for a while I think > > > it's > > > pretty clear that the TT-DVB-C-card does not work with any version of the > > > Linux > > > driver. > > > > > > Unfortunately, the information on linuxtv.org and on technotrend's home page > > > (claiming that there is a working driver for the TT-DVB-C card) is incorrect > > > and should, imho, be removed. I would personally have tried harder to get a > > > Siemens card if I haven't been misled by this fact. > > > > I was under the impression from earlier reports (on the list and/or > > through mail to me) that the TT DVB-C card worked. Maybe they changed > > the hardware? Somebody here talked about a 2.x version of the DVB-C > > card? > > Based on the linuxtv.org web pages and the mailinglists I was under the > impression that the TT DVB-C card would work with the linux driver. > > Yesterday it occurred to me that most DVB-C users on the list probably > have a Siemens card and thus the problems with TT's card have not been > found out earlier. > > !! Is there anyone on the list who has a TT DVB-C card working with the > linuxtv.org DVB driver !! > > My card has a "C-rev2.1" sticker on it. This is the same card that is > identified as DVB-S by the linuxtv.org driver. That's probably because either tuner or demodulator are not identified by the driver or something else went wrong. The default will always be DVB-S in that case. Based on your log not even the firmware was correctly on your card. So, either the driver does not know how to handle the card version you have or something else is wrong with the card. > IMHO if you claim to develop a driver a driver which supports e.g. Siemens > DVB-C cards, then you should at least try to support new card versions. But, AFAIK, there is no new Siemens DVB-C card version. The TT version of the card always was a little different in layout. Now it seems they changed something else. Does anybody on this list own a TT DVB-C card which is not Rev. 2.1? > Especially since from the consumers point of view the card revisions > aren't really that visible. That is, people don't know automatically which > card revision they are buying. But since this is open source software, I > understand that you cannot do everything. Come to think of it, I'm not > sure whether you claim to support any card... > > I'm just pissed at the moment since I was under the impression (my > mistake) that the driver would work with all TT-based DVB cards. Now you > are telling me that the driver will work with TT-based rev1.3 DVB-S cards > only. Interworking with other cards will be an accident. I said this is all I will be able to support in 4 weeks (if Convergence goes down) since that's the only card I privately own. That does not mean I would completely drop support for all other versions, just that I could no longer actively work on those cards myself. > > All I can do for now is to add a note on our WWW page that not > > all card versions of all vendors work with the driver. > > In 4 weeks all this will probably be a moot point anyway and all I > > will be able to support then is a version 1.3 DVB-S card. > > That's a pitty since I'd assume that the user group will probably not grow > from this in the future. I'm assuming that rev1.3 cards aren't available > any more... > > TT claims to have a linux driver for their cards on request. I'll email > them and see what they answer. If the driver is crap, we could all (or at > least the TT DVB-C card owners) send an email to TT requesting them to > support Ralph in the driver development. > > Please note, that I'm very interested in getting the driver to support > TT DVB-C cards, so I'd be very interested and willing to help in this > project. Finding out if the card you have uses different tuner and demodulator chips would be a start. Ralph -- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Sun Jan 06 12:10:02 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mhonarc@limes.convergence.de Received: (qmail 23124 invoked by uid 0); 6 Jan 2002 12:10:02 -0000 Received: from chambertin.convergence.de (212.84.236.2) by limes.convergence.de with SMTP; 6 Jan 2002 12:10:02 -0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=chambertin) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16NBzV-0002H7-00; Sun, 06 Jan 2002 13:01:29 +0100 Received: with LISTAR (v0.129a; list linux-dvb); Sun, 06 Jan 2002 13:01:17 +0100 (MET) Received: from dial-195-14-244-96.netcologne.de ([195.14.244.96] helo=rjkm.de) by chambertin.convergence.de with TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168 encrypted esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16NBzB-0002CR-00 for ; Sun, 06 Jan 2002 13:01:14 +0100 Received: (from rjkm@localhost) by rjkm.de (8.12.0.Beta19/8.12.0.Beta19) id g06C0kJY000954; Sun, 6 Jan 2002 13:00:46 +0100 From: Ralph Metzler Message-ID: <15416.15470.368507.213861@gargle.gargle.HOWL> Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2002 13:00:46 +0100 To: "Christoph-Sebastian Oesterheld" Cc: Subject: [linux-dvb] 16-bit or 18-bit PCM output precision selected in firmware? In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: VM 6.95 under 21.4 (patch 4) "Artificial Intelligence" XEmacs Lucid Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 1.8) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-listar-version: Listar v0.129a Sender: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Errors-to: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org X-original-sender: rjkm@convergence.de Precedence: bulk X-list: linux-dvb Christoph-Sebastian Oesterheld writes: > Hello driver developers! > > Wich setting use the firmware for the PCMSEL bit 1 of the > audio decoder control register (AUD_CTRL_REG) in the TMS320AV7110: > > a) 0 for 16-bit PCM output or > b) 1 for 18-bit PCM output (default)? > > This difference is very important for the 16-bit Audio-DAC of my Siemens > DVB-C (rev. 1.5), > the AKM AK4309B > (http://www.asahi-kasei.co.jp/akm/en/product/ak4309b/ak4309b.html). > > The sound of the analog output of the Siemens DVB-C is not very good (like > an old 8-bit soundcard). > In contrast the sound of the SPDIF output is much better (tested with an > external connected DAC). > > I have compared the specs of the DSP and the DAC: > > In 18-bit PCM output mode, the audio decoder produce an 24-bit stream on the > PCM output. > The first 6 bits are zero, followed by the 18-bit PCM value. > The Audio-DAC ignores all preceding bits of an PCM bit stream with more than > 16 bits. > As a result the Audio DAC processed the lower 16 bits of the 18-bit PCM > values > and this is could be the reason for the badly sound. > > Over again, wich output precision use the firmware? > Can I force the 16-bit PCM output mode? > Perhaps my estimation is not correct an you have a better explanation? > As far as I can see it audio is set to use 16-bit PCM during the initialization in the firmware. Since this is done thrugh an RTSL call I don't know if they set the control register bits in the way you described but I would guess so. Ralph -- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Sun Jan 06 12:13:08 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mhonarc@limes.convergence.de Received: (qmail 23446 invoked by uid 0); 6 Jan 2002 12:13:08 -0000 Received: from chambertin.convergence.de (212.84.236.2) by limes.convergence.de with SMTP; 6 Jan 2002 12:13:08 -0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=chambertin) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16NC2S-0002XP-00; Sun, 06 Jan 2002 13:04:32 +0100 Received: with LISTAR (v0.129a; list linux-dvb); Sun, 06 Jan 2002 13:04:19 +0100 (MET) Received: from mout0.freenet.de ([194.97.50.131] ident=exim) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16NC2F-0002TU-00 for ; Sun, 06 Jan 2002 13:04:19 +0100 Received: from [194.97.50.135] (helo=mx2.freenet.de) by mout0.freenet.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #3) id 16NC2F-0005Vw-00 for linux-dvb@linuxtv.org; Sun, 06 Jan 2002 13:04:19 +0100 Received: from b353d.pppool.de ([213.7.53.61] helo=master.athome.de) by mx2.freenet.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #3) id 16NC2E-0005Am-00 for linux-dvb@linuxtv.org; Sun, 06 Jan 2002 13:04:18 +0100 Received: (from news@localhost) by master.athome.de (8.11.2/8.11.2/SuSE Linux 8.11.1-0.5) id g06BtKn01315 for linux-dvb@linuxtv.org; Sun, 6 Jan 2002 12:55:20 +0100 To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Path: not-for-mail From: s.huelswitt@gmx.de (Stefan Huelswitt) Newsgroups: local.linux.dvb Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: New samplerates in CVS driver Date: 6 Jan 2002 11:55:20 GMT Organization: Home, sweet home Lines: 18 Message-ID: References: <15416.14361.486135.96753@sheridan.metzler> Reply-To: huels@iname.com NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: master.athome.de 1010318120 32651 127.0.0.1 (6 Jan 2002 11:55:20 GMT) X-Complaints-To: huels@iname.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 6 Jan 2002 11:55:20 GMT X-Newsreader: knews 1.0b.1 X-listar-version: Listar v0.129a Sender: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Errors-to: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org X-original-sender: s.huelswitt@gmx.de Precedence: bulk X-list: linux-dvb On 06 Jan 2002 wrote: > We added the new frequencies to the header as 44kHz = 2 and 32kHz = 3. > I added support for that to ntuxplayer. You can find a routine called > pcm_play in apps/tuxzap/src/dvb_formats.c in the driver package. Hey, this is quite simple. Thanks for the answer. > The LPCM PES cannot be larger than 2048 bytes right now. This is the limit as before, right? One more think, just for backward compatibility: it is possible to detect if the loaded firmware support the new sample rates? -- Stefan Huelswitt huels@iname.com | http://home.pages.de/~nathan -- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Sun Jan 06 12:19:34 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mhonarc@limes.convergence.de Received: (qmail 27745 invoked by uid 0); 6 Jan 2002 12:19:34 -0000 Received: from chambertin.convergence.de (212.84.236.2) by limes.convergence.de with SMTP; 6 Jan 2002 12:19:34 -0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=chambertin) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16NC8h-0002ws-00; Sun, 06 Jan 2002 13:10:59 +0100 Received: with LISTAR (v0.129a; list linux-dvb); Sun, 06 Jan 2002 13:10:47 +0100 (MET) Received: from mailrelay.netcologne.de ([194.8.194.96]) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16NC8U-0002u6-00 for ; Sun, 06 Jan 2002 13:10:46 +0100 Received: from sheridan.metzler (dial-195-14-244-96.netcologne.de [195.14.244.96]) by mailrelay.netcologne.de (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g06CAYN04215; Sun, 6 Jan 2002 13:10:39 +0100 (MET) Received: (from mocm@localhost) by sheridan.metzler (8.11.3/8.11.0/SuSE Linux 8.11.0-0.4) id g06C9g324628; Sun, 6 Jan 2002 13:09:42 +0100 From: Message-ID: <15416.16006.264074.744088@sheridan.metzler> Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2002 13:09:42 +0100 (CET) To: huels@iname.com Cc: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: New samplerates in CVS driver Newsgroups: local.linux.dvb In-Reply-To: References: <15416.14361.486135.96753@sheridan.metzler> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid Reply-To: Marcus Metzler X-Face: X!$Vwl\?,AW_[zm^ej\MLxN>q;R?C_sRZ*XE4V;BGT28Ewyd\:TS')W'G#Dgay8ci$*{lEd 02(Nk0OndG\752U>lozmb_R1poDm6mgHm_4.}bdS0hh.`xGUI.X2x_50T9.?_v~.,QI*$2:Q=HV@>F IP6%l~E:T|w,X[eC;|YD(A9X'sS"r$l]g<4CjAm4|f7o0>6zGwUPLinP0.d=E+_%?4>0A9'esEZ=9h $#b[g*/q/g'GVj-hDc,+V_]1.H^N,1Bju,>5FZn"B Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 1.6) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-listar-version: Listar v0.129a Sender: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Errors-to: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org X-original-sender: mocm@convergence.de Precedence: bulk X-list: linux-dvb Stefan Huelswitt writes: > > One more think, just for backward compatibility: it is possible > to detect if the loaded firmware support the new sample rates? > No, I guess not. Marcus -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- Dr. Marcus Metzler mocm@netcologne.de http://www.metzlerbros.de mocm@convergence.de http://www.convergence.de Convergence Integrated Media GmbH Rosenthaler Str. 51 D-10178 Berlin --------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Sun Jan 06 12:26:16 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mhonarc@limes.convergence.de Received: (qmail 28067 invoked by uid 0); 6 Jan 2002 12:26:16 -0000 Received: from chambertin.convergence.de (212.84.236.2) by limes.convergence.de with SMTP; 6 Jan 2002 12:26:16 -0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=chambertin) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16NCFB-0003NK-00; Sun, 06 Jan 2002 13:17:41 +0100 Received: with LISTAR (v0.129a; list linux-dvb); Sun, 06 Jan 2002 13:17:28 +0100 (MET) Received: from pa85.jaslo.sdi.tpnet.pl ([217.98.170.85] helo=bispol.jaslo.pl ident=root) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16NCEs-0003Is-00 for ; Sun, 06 Jan 2002 13:17:25 +0100 Received: from bispol.jaslo.pl (root@milea [192.168.1.1]) by bispol.jaslo.pl (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g06CGkP10325 for ; Sun, 6 Jan 2002 13:16:46 +0100 Sender: root@bispol.jaslo.pl Message-ID: <3C38402D.CF1F0A0E@bispol.jaslo.pl> Date: Sun, 06 Jan 2002 13:16:45 +0100 From: Marcin Lukasik Organization: Milea X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.20 i586) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: linuxdvb Subject: [linux-dvb] Broadlogic 2030 ..and linux problems Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-listar-version: Listar v0.129a Sender: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Errors-to: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org X-original-sender: shakey@bispol.jaslo.pl Precedence: bulk X-list: linux-dvb Hello I bought Broadlogic 2030 card and I can't bring it to work.. I'm using Linux-2.2.20 kernel and tried with all siemens-dvb drivers.. The errors are shown below: videodev.o: init_module: Device or resource busy Hint: this error can be caused by incorrect module parameters, including invalid IO or IRQ parameters dvb.o: init_module: Device or resource busy Hint: this error can be caused by incorrect module parameters, including invalid IO or IRQ parameters SIOCSIFADDR: No such device dvb0: unknown interface: No such device make: *** [insmod] Error 255 I tried kernels 2.2.16, 2.2.19 and 2.2.20 ..and dvb drivers ..even tried all PCI slots.. and nothing :/ I got no problems with SkyStar1 I bought this becouse somebode told me that this card is great especially for linux. PLEASE, HELP ME I'm getting off :( Martin -- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Sun Jan 06 13:32:12 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mhonarc@limes.convergence.de Received: (qmail 19466 invoked by uid 0); 6 Jan 2002 13:32:11 -0000 Received: from chambertin.convergence.de (212.84.236.2) by limes.convergence.de with SMTP; 6 Jan 2002 13:32:11 -0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=chambertin) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16NDH0-00074l-00; Sun, 06 Jan 2002 14:23:38 +0100 Received: with LISTAR (v0.129a; list linux-dvb); Sun, 06 Jan 2002 14:23:26 +0100 (MET) Received: from dial-195-14-226-220.netcologne.de ([195.14.226.220] helo=rjkm.de) by chambertin.convergence.de with TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168 encrypted esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16NDGo-00072Q-00 for ; Sun, 06 Jan 2002 14:23:26 +0100 Received: (from rjkm@localhost) by rjkm.de (8.12.0.Beta19/8.12.0.Beta19) id g06DM8wF001043; Sun, 6 Jan 2002 14:22:08 +0100 From: Ralph Metzler Message-ID: <15416.20352.583677.703232@gargle.gargle.HOWL> Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2002 14:22:08 +0100 To: Marcin Lukasik Cc: linuxdvb Subject: [linux-dvb] Broadlogic 2030 ..and linux problems In-Reply-To: <3C38402D.CF1F0A0E@bispol.jaslo.pl> References: <3C38402D.CF1F0A0E@bispol.jaslo.pl> X-Mailer: VM 6.95 under 21.4 (patch 4) "Artificial Intelligence" XEmacs Lucid Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 1.8) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-listar-version: Listar v0.129a Sender: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Errors-to: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org X-original-sender: rjkm@convergence.de Precedence: bulk X-list: linux-dvb Marcin Lukasik writes: > Hello > > I bought Broadlogic 2030 card and I can't bring it to work.. > I'm using Linux-2.2.20 kernel and tried with all siemens-dvb > drivers.. Sorry, this card is not supported by our drivers. Ralph -- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Sun Jan 06 13:48:02 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mhonarc@limes.convergence.de Received: (qmail 24349 invoked by uid 0); 6 Jan 2002 13:48:01 -0000 Received: from chambertin.convergence.de (212.84.236.2) by limes.convergence.de with SMTP; 6 Jan 2002 13:48:01 -0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=chambertin) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16NDWI-0008V6-00; Sun, 06 Jan 2002 14:39:26 +0100 Received: with LISTAR (v0.129a; list linux-dvb); Sun, 06 Jan 2002 14:39:14 +0100 (MET) Received: from pa85.jaslo.sdi.tpnet.pl ([217.98.170.85] helo=bispol.jaslo.pl ident=root) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16NDW0-0008Qw-00 for ; Sun, 06 Jan 2002 14:39:11 +0100 Received: from bispol.jaslo.pl (root@milea [192.168.1.1]) by bispol.jaslo.pl (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g06Db6P13420; Sun, 6 Jan 2002 14:37:06 +0100 Sender: root@bispol.jaslo.pl Message-ID: <3C385302.651D2D12@bispol.jaslo.pl> Date: Sun, 06 Jan 2002 14:37:06 +0100 From: Marcin Lukasik Organization: Milea X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.20 i586) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ralph Metzler CC: linuxdvb Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: Broadlogic 2030 ..and linux problems References: <3C38402D.CF1F0A0E@bispol.jaslo.pl> <15416.20352.583677.703232@gargle.gargle.HOWL> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-listar-version: Listar v0.129a Sender: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Errors-to: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org X-original-sender: shakey@bispol.jaslo.pl Precedence: bulk X-list: linux-dvb Ralph Metzler wrote: > Sorry, this card is not supported by our drivers. > > Ralph sux :| so..what should I do now? :/ There are some drivers on broadlogic page.. but for kernel 2.2.5.. No comment.. But thanks anyway Martin -- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Sun Jan 06 14:01:28 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mhonarc@limes.convergence.de Received: (qmail 29248 invoked by uid 0); 6 Jan 2002 14:01:28 -0000 Received: from chambertin.convergence.de (212.84.236.2) by limes.convergence.de with SMTP; 6 Jan 2002 14:01:28 -0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=chambertin) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16NDjJ-0000b7-00; Sun, 06 Jan 2002 14:52:53 +0100 Received: with LISTAR (v0.129a; list linux-dvb); Sun, 06 Jan 2002 14:52:39 +0100 (MET) Received: from warsl401pip7.highway.telekom.at ([195.3.96.115] helo=email03.aon.at) by chambertin.convergence.de with smtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16NDj5-0000Tl-00 for ; Sun, 06 Jan 2002 14:52:39 +0100 Received: (qmail 611268 invoked from network); 6 Jan 2002 13:52:04 -0000 Received: from m289p018.adsl.highway.telekom.at (HELO there) ([62.47.164.18]) (envelope-sender ) by qmail3.highway.telekom.at (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 6 Jan 2002 13:52:04 -0000 From: PSIplus Organization: NetPhoenix Message-Id: <200201061447.41228@psiplus.cjb.net> To: linuxdvb Subject: [linux-dvb] Small TV-Script for WinTV Nova and other Low-Budget Cards Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2002 14:51:56 +0100 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.2] Author: PSIplus X-Errors-To: PSIplus URL: http://www.netphoenix.at MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain X-listar-version: Listar v0.129a Sender: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Errors-to: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org X-original-sender: psiplus@gmx.net Precedence: bulk X-list: linux-dvb Hi! I made this script (see file attachment) for all users of a WinTV Nova or something else, it's not large, but easy to use... Put it to /usr/bin If in future anyone asks for such a thing, you could take it to them ;-) Ohja: At the Moment the newest CVS-Version of ts2ps is required, because in the older versions the automatic PID-Detection is not working! Have Fun! Martin -- --> PSIplus --> ICQ... 57749465 --> Site... www.psiplus.org --> Board... www.netphoenix.at --> GnuPG Public Key... www.netphoenix.at/0/?loc=11 -- -- No attachments (even text) are allowed -- -- Type: application/x-shellscript -- File: stvmp -- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Sun Jan 06 14:39:47 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mhonarc@limes.convergence.de Received: (qmail 6994 invoked by uid 0); 6 Jan 2002 14:39:47 -0000 Received: from chambertin.convergence.de (212.84.236.2) by limes.convergence.de with SMTP; 6 Jan 2002 14:39:47 -0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=chambertin) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16NEKG-0003HN-00; Sun, 06 Jan 2002 15:31:04 +0100 Received: with LISTAR (v0.129a; list linux-dvb); Sun, 06 Jan 2002 15:30:53 +0100 (MET) Received: from pa85.jaslo.sdi.tpnet.pl ([217.98.170.85] helo=bispol.jaslo.pl ident=root) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16NBZn-0008Uj-00 for ; Sun, 06 Jan 2002 12:34:58 +0100 Received: from bispol.jaslo.pl (root@milea [192.168.1.1]) by bispol.jaslo.pl (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g06BYIP08745 for ; Sun, 6 Jan 2002 12:34:18 +0100 Sender: root@bispol.jaslo.pl Message-ID: <3C383639.CD3605BE@bispol.jaslo.pl> Date: Sun, 06 Jan 2002 12:34:17 +0100 From: Marcin Lukasik Organization: Milea X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.20 i586) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Broadlogic 2030 ..and linux problems Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Approved-By: dirk@convergence.de X-listar-version: Listar v0.129a Sender: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Errors-to: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org X-original-sender: dirk@convergence.de Precedence: bulk X-list: linux-dvb Hello I bought Broadlogic 2030 card and I can't bring it to work.. I'm using Linux-2.2.20 kernel and tried with all siemens-dvb drivers.. The errors are shown below: videodev.o: init_module: Device or resource busy Hint: this error can be caused by incorrect module parameters, including invalid IO or IRQ parameters dvb.o: init_module: Device or resource busy Hint: this error can be caused by incorrect module parameters, including invalid IO or IRQ parameters SIOCSIFADDR: No such device dvb0: unknown interface: No such device make: *** [insmod] Error 255 I tried kernels 2.2.16, 2.2.19 and 2.2.20 ..and dvb drivers ..even tried all PCI slots.. and nothing :/ I got no problems with SkyStar1 I bought this becouse somebode told me that this card is great especially for linux. PLEASE, HELP ME I'm getting off :( Martin -- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Sun Jan 06 14:56:49 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mhonarc@limes.convergence.de Received: (qmail 12289 invoked by uid 0); 6 Jan 2002 14:56:49 -0000 Received: from chambertin.convergence.de (212.84.236.2) by limes.convergence.de with SMTP; 6 Jan 2002 14:56:49 -0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=chambertin) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16NEat-0003w6-00; Sun, 06 Jan 2002 15:48:15 +0100 Received: with LISTAR (v0.129a; list linux-dvb); Sun, 06 Jan 2002 15:48:02 +0100 (MET) Received: from facade.firsthop.fi ([195.163.185.50] helo=factory.firsthop.fi) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16NEaf-0003ro-00 for ; Sun, 06 Jan 2002 15:48:01 +0100 Received: (from smile@localhost) by factory.firsthop.fi (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA14162 for linux-dvb@linuxtv.org; Sun, 6 Jan 2002 16:47:31 +0200 Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2002 16:47:31 +0200 From: Lauri Pesonen To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: Tuning problem Message-ID: <20020106164731.F12045@firsthop.com> Reply-To: lauri.pesonen@firsthop.com Mail-Followup-To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org References: <90D2243C3D0B8B4AB20FAA77AFD974B6373ED9@swclus1.swelcom.swelcom.fi> <15415.57819.225226.101795@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <20020106114825.B12045@firsthop.com> <15416.15019.359692.222159@gargle.gargle.HOWL> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <15416.15019.359692.222159@gargle.gargle.HOWL>; from rjkm@convergence.de on Sun, Jan 06, 2002 at 12:53:15PM +0100 X-listar-version: Listar v0.129a Sender: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Errors-to: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org X-original-sender: lauri.pesonen@firsthop.com Precedence: bulk X-list: linux-dvb On Sun, Jan 06, 2002 at 12:53:15PM +0100, Ralph Metzler wrote: > Lauri Pesonen writes: > > That's probably because either tuner or demodulator are not identified > by the driver or something else went wrong. The default will always be > DVB-S in that case. > Ok, that makes sense. > Based on your log not even the firmware was correctly on your card. > So, either the driver does not know how to handle the card version you > have or something else is wrong with the card. I got the full-featured card working with TT's Windows software. So the card seems to be fine although I wasn't able to tune to all transponder frequencies. So the card seems to be ok. So I'm hoping that its a driver problem which can be fixed easily ;) > > Please note, that I'm very interested in getting the driver to support > > TT DVB-C cards, so I'd be very interested and willing to help in this > > project. > > Finding out if the card you have uses different tuner and > demodulator chips would be a start. I'm not 100% sure what I'm supposed to be looking here, so let me know if you need to find out something else aswell. I've got the following chips on the full-featured card: * VES1820 (Philips Vista) * SAA7146AH (Philips) * TI DSP * I think the other chips are memory (Hyundai) There's two very slim chips and a third square one with a round logo (probably some controller...) The budget card has only the VES and the SAA chips (same numbers). -- Lauri -- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Sun Jan 06 15:01:49 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mhonarc@limes.convergence.de Received: (qmail 16622 invoked by uid 0); 6 Jan 2002 15:01:49 -0000 Received: from chambertin.convergence.de (212.84.236.2) by limes.convergence.de with SMTP; 6 Jan 2002 15:01:49 -0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=chambertin) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16NEff-0004MS-00; Sun, 06 Jan 2002 15:53:11 +0100 Received: with LISTAR (v0.129a; list linux-dvb); Sun, 06 Jan 2002 15:52:58 +0100 (MET) Received: from facade.firsthop.fi ([195.163.185.50] helo=factory.firsthop.fi) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16NEfS-0004I3-00 for ; Sun, 06 Jan 2002 15:52:58 +0100 Received: (from smile@localhost) by factory.firsthop.fi (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA14201 for linux-dvb@linuxtv.org; Sun, 6 Jan 2002 16:52:27 +0200 Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2002 16:52:27 +0200 From: Lauri Pesonen To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: Tuning problem Message-ID: <20020106165227.G12045@firsthop.com> Reply-To: lauri.pesonen@firsthop.com Mail-Followup-To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org References: <90D2243C3D0B8B4AB20FAA77AFD974B6373ED9@swclus1.swelcom.swelcom.fi> <15415.57819.225226.101795@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <20020106114825.B12045@firsthop.com> <3C382E0E.5A8CD947@icem.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3C382E0E.5A8CD947@icem.de>; from Carsten.Koch@icem.de on Sun, Jan 06, 2002 at 11:59:26AM +0100 X-listar-version: Listar v0.129a Sender: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Errors-to: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org X-original-sender: lauri.pesonen@firsthop.com Precedence: bulk X-list: linux-dvb On Sun, Jan 06, 2002 at 11:59:26AM +0100, Carsten Koch wrote: > Lauri Pesonen wrote: > ... > > TT claims to have a linux driver for their cards on request. I'll email > > them and see what they answer. If the driver is crap, we could all (or at > > least the TT DVB-C card owners) send an email to TT requesting them to > > support Ralph in the driver development. > > I believe that would be a good idea in any event. You are right of course. I fear that TT might not be very interested in supporting Ralph if they have a working Linux driver and they said "no" earlier on when Convergence started working on the driver ;( I'll try anyhow. > Can you organize it? I.e. find the e-mail address of a person > at TT who might care and who might have an influence on decisions > (not a general address like info@technotrend.de that may lead to > a call center or a secretary). I emailed a requested for the driver mentioned on their web pages to support@technotrend.de. I don't think that email address will help us very much in getting TT to support the driver development, but we'll see if we get any further through that channel, ie. get a name to contact. I have a contact in TT sales, but I'm not sure whether she can help us with this issue... We'll know more on monday, I hope. > Carsten. -- Lauri -- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Sun Jan 06 15:09:29 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mhonarc@limes.convergence.de Received: (qmail 16969 invoked by uid 0); 6 Jan 2002 15:09:29 -0000 Received: from chambertin.convergence.de (212.84.236.2) by limes.convergence.de with SMTP; 6 Jan 2002 15:09:29 -0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=chambertin) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16NEn6-0005WZ-00; Sun, 06 Jan 2002 16:00:52 +0100 Received: with LISTAR (v0.129a; list linux-dvb); Sun, 06 Jan 2002 16:00:40 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail.gmx.net ([213.165.64.20]) by chambertin.convergence.de with smtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16NEmt-0005SK-00 for ; Sun, 06 Jan 2002 16:00:39 +0100 Received: (qmail 18395 invoked by uid 0); 6 Jan 2002 15:00:26 -0000 Received: from pec-35-221.tnt1.f.uunet.de (HELO gmx.net) (149.225.35.221) by mail.gmx.net (mp016-rz3) with SMTP; 6 Jan 2002 15:00:26 -0000 Sender: jojo Message-ID: <3C386499.F5742F80@gmx.net> Date: Sun, 06 Jan 2002 15:52:09 +0100 From: Joachim =?iso-8859-1?Q?K=F6nig?= X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.4.5 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: Tuning problem References: <90D2243C3D0B8B4AB20FAA77AFD974B6373ED9@swclus1.swelcom.swelcom.fi> <15415.57819.225226.101795@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <20020106114825.B12045@firsthop.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-listar-version: Listar v0.129a Sender: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Errors-to: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org X-original-sender: joachim.koenig@gmx.net Precedence: bulk X-list: linux-dvb Andreas R=F6ver wrote: > > TT claims to have a linux driver for their cards on request. I'll ema= il > > them and see what they answer. If the driver is crap, we could all (o= r at > > least the TT DVB-C card owners) send an email to TT requesting them t= o > > support Ralph in the driver development. > > > > Please note, that I'm very interested in getting the driver to suppor= t > > TT DVB-C cards, so I'd be very interested and willing to help in this= > > project. > = > I can only agree. It seems that I did ther very same thing with the ver= y same > believes, so I am in the same situation. I didn't even have a running W= indows > on my Computer and installed one just to see if the card is working at = all. > = > So I will try my very best to get the card running I can not more agree here. I also got a TT DVB-C 2.1 card yesterday. It works with windows, but it does not tune with any driver under linux. So; I will support any action for getting = the card going. mfg Joachim -- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Sun Jan 06 15:37:24 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mhonarc@limes.convergence.de Received: (qmail 26729 invoked by uid 0); 6 Jan 2002 15:37:24 -0000 Received: from chambertin.convergence.de (212.84.236.2) by limes.convergence.de with SMTP; 6 Jan 2002 15:37:24 -0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=chambertin) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16NFEA-0006WL-00; Sun, 06 Jan 2002 16:28:50 +0100 Received: with LISTAR (v0.129a; list linux-dvb); Sun, 06 Jan 2002 16:28:37 +0100 (MET) Received: from warsl401pip7.highway.telekom.at ([195.3.96.115] helo=email03.aon.at) by chambertin.convergence.de with smtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16NFDx-0006Pn-00 for ; Sun, 06 Jan 2002 16:28:37 +0100 Received: (qmail 372816 invoked from network); 6 Jan 2002 15:28:05 -0000 Received: from m289p018.adsl.highway.telekom.at (HELO there) ([62.47.164.18]) (envelope-sender ) by qmail3.highway.telekom.at (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 6 Jan 2002 15:28:05 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: PSIplus Organization: NetPhoenix Message-Id: <200201061456.3374@psiplus.cjb.net> To: linuxdvb Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: Small TV-Script for WinTV Nova and other Low-Budget Cards -> URL Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2002 16:27:53 +0100 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.2] References: <200201061447.41228@psiplus.cjb.net> In-Reply-To: <200201061447.41228@psiplus.cjb.net> Author: PSIplus X-Errors-To: PSIplus URL: http://www.netphoenix.at MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-listar-version: Listar v0.129a Sender: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Errors-to: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org X-original-sender: psiplus@gmx.net Precedence: bulk X-list: linux-dvb Hi! It seems Listar have disabled attachments ;-) Here the download-URL: http://www.netphoenix.at/upload/stvmp.tar.bz2 Have Fun! Martin > I made this script (see file attachment) for all users of a WinTV Nova = or > something else, it's not large, but easy to use... > Put it to /usr/bin > > If in future anyone asks for such a thing, you could take it to them ;-= ) > > Ohja: At the Moment the newest CVS-Version of ts2ps is required, becaus= e in > the older versions the automatic PID-Detection is not working! --=20 --> PSIplus =20 --> ICQ... 57749465=20 --> Site... www.psiplus.org=20 --> Board... www.netphoenix.at=20 --> GnuPG Public Key... www.netphoenix.at/0/?loc=3D11 -- -- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Sun Jan 06 16:25:43 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mhonarc@limes.convergence.de Received: (qmail 9070 invoked by uid 0); 6 Jan 2002 16:25:42 -0000 Received: from chambertin.convergence.de (212.84.236.2) by limes.convergence.de with SMTP; 6 Jan 2002 16:25:42 -0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=chambertin) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16NFyo-000174-00; Sun, 06 Jan 2002 17:17:02 +0100 Received: with LISTAR (v0.129a; list linux-dvb); Sun, 06 Jan 2002 17:16:50 +0100 (MET) Received: from mailout08.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.20]) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16NFyb-00014K-00 for ; Sun, 06 Jan 2002 17:16:49 +0100 Received: from fwd06.sul.t-online.de by mailout08.sul.t-online.de with smtp id 16NFyb-0007WW-01; Sun, 06 Jan 2002 17:16:49 +0100 Received: from there (520011617439-0001@[217.225.103.153]) by fwd06.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 16NFyN-1HqEQiC; Sun, 6 Jan 2002 17:16:35 +0100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" From: ma.hoff@t-online.de (Martin Hoffmann) Reply-To: ma.hoff@bigfoot.com To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Meaning of mon_fail(0) ??? Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2002 17:20:21 +0100 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.1] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <16NFyN-1HqEQiC@fwd06.sul.t-online.com> X-Sender: 520011617439-0001@t-dialin.net X-listar-version: Listar v0.129a Sender: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Errors-to: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org X-original-sender: ma.hoff@t-online.de Precedence: bulk X-list: linux-dvb Hi, since yesterday evening i'm having serious trouble with my dvbs card :-( After a few minutes of viewing the picture and sound stops and i get the following error: Jan  6 00:13:21 videotux kernel: mon_fail(0): freq=1510000000, sr=27500000 What does it mean ? mon_fail ??? Martin -- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Sun Jan 06 16:37:58 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mhonarc@limes.convergence.de Received: (qmail 13964 invoked by uid 0); 6 Jan 2002 16:37:58 -0000 Received: from chambertin.convergence.de (212.84.236.2) by limes.convergence.de with SMTP; 6 Jan 2002 16:37:58 -0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=chambertin) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16NGAj-0001tz-00; Sun, 06 Jan 2002 17:29:21 +0100 Received: with LISTAR (v0.129a; list linux-dvb); Sun, 06 Jan 2002 17:29:09 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail.gmx.net ([213.165.64.20]) by chambertin.convergence.de with smtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16NGAX-0001iR-00 for ; Sun, 06 Jan 2002 17:29:09 +0100 Received: (qmail 20860 invoked by uid 0); 6 Jan 2002 16:28:38 -0000 Received: from pec-41-248.tnt4.f.uunet.de (HELO gmx.net) (149.225.41.248) by mail.gmx.net (mp010-rz3) with SMTP; 6 Jan 2002 16:28:38 -0000 Sender: jojo Message-ID: <3C38795E.5A0A67DB@gmx.net> Date: Sun, 06 Jan 2002 17:20:46 +0100 From: Joachim =?iso-8859-1?Q?K=F6nig?= X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.4.5 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lauri.pesonen@firsthop.com CC: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: Tuning problem References: <90D2243C3D0B8B4AB20FAA77AFD974B6373ED9@swclus1.swelcom.swelcom.fi> <15415.57819.225226.101795@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <20020106114825.B12045@firsthop.com> <15416.15019.359692.222159@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <20020106164731.F12045@firsthop.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-listar-version: Listar v0.129a Sender: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Errors-to: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org X-original-sender: joachim.koenig@gmx.net Precedence: bulk X-list: linux-dvb Lauri Pesonen wrote: > I'm not 100% sure what I'm supposed to be looking here, so let me know if > you need to find out something else aswell. I've got the following chips > on the full-featured card: > > * VES1820 (Philips Vista) > * SAA7146AH (Philips) > * TI DSP > * I think the other chips are memory (Hyundai) There's two very slim chips > and a third square one with a round logo (probably some controller...) I have opened the tuner and found a MITEL SP5659 chip. The Label at the Tuner says: TDBE2-032A. Hope this helps. Everythins is as Lauri wrote. mfg Joachim -- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Sun Jan 06 16:45:23 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mhonarc@limes.convergence.de Received: (qmail 17311 invoked by uid 0); 6 Jan 2002 16:45:23 -0000 Received: from chambertin.convergence.de (212.84.236.2) by limes.convergence.de with SMTP; 6 Jan 2002 16:45:23 -0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=chambertin) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16NGHs-00036Q-00; Sun, 06 Jan 2002 17:36:44 +0100 Received: with LISTAR (v0.129a; list linux-dvb); Sun, 06 Jan 2002 17:36:32 +0100 (MET) Received: from smtp018.mail.yahoo.com ([216.136.174.115]) by chambertin.convergence.de with smtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16NGHf-00032N-00 for ; Sun, 06 Jan 2002 17:36:31 +0100 Received: from p5088cdc2.dip.t-dialin.net (HELO there) (80.136.205.194) by smtp.mail.vip.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 6 Jan 2002 16:36:21 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Andreas =?iso-8859-1?q?R=F6ver?= Reply-To: andreas_roever@yahoo.com To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: Tuning problem Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2002 17:36:19 +0100 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.1] References: <90D2243C3D0B8B4AB20FAA77AFD974B6373ED9@swclus1.swelcom.swelcom.fi> <20020106164731.F12045@firsthop.com> <3C38795E.5A0A67DB@gmx.net> In-Reply-To: <3C38795E.5A0A67DB@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: X-listar-version: Listar v0.129a Sender: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Errors-to: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org X-original-sender: andreas_roever@yahoo.com Precedence: bulk X-list: linux-dvb Am Sonntag, 6. Januar 2002 17:20 schrieben Sie: > Lauri Pesonen wrote: > > I'm not 100% sure what I'm supposed to be looking here, so let me know if > > you need to find out something else aswell. I've got the following chips > > on the full-featured card: > > > > * VES1820 (Philips Vista) > > * SAA7146AH (Philips) > > * TI DSP > > * I think the other chips are memory (Hyundai) There's two very slim > > chips and a third square one with a round logo (probably some > > controller...) > > I have opened the tuner and found a MITEL SP5659 chip. The Label at the > Tuner says: > TDBE2-032A. Hope this helps. Everythins is as Lauri wrote. Same with me, revision 2.1, all chips identical type Andreas _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com -- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From vdr-bounce@linuxtv.org Sun Jan 06 17:47:59 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mhonarc@limes.convergence.de Received: (qmail 5525 invoked by uid 0); 6 Jan 2002 17:47:59 -0000 Received: from chambertin.convergence.de (212.84.236.2) by limes.convergence.de with SMTP; 6 Jan 2002 17:47:59 -0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=chambertin) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16NHGP-0007CS-00; Sun, 06 Jan 2002 18:39:17 +0100 Received: with LISTAR (v0.129a; list vdr); Sun, 06 Jan 2002 18:39:13 +0100 (MET) Received: from mailout03.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.81]) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16NHGK-0007Ay-00; Sun, 06 Jan 2002 18:39:12 +0100 Received: from fwd00.sul.t-online.de by mailout03.sul.t-online.de with smtp id 16NGWv-0005FY-07; Sun, 06 Jan 2002 17:52:17 +0100 Received: from lws1 (0680491205-0001@[62.226.90.116]) by fwd00.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 16NGWi-2EB4i0C; Sun, 6 Jan 2002 17:52:04 +0100 Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2002 17:53:16 +0100 From: christophackermann@t-online.de (Christoph Ackermann) To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Cc: vdr@linuxtv.org Subject: [vdr] Problems with compiling dvb driver vers 0.9_20011117 Message-Id: <20020106175316.2f90baf2.christophackermann@t-online.de> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.6.5 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i586-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Sender: 0680491205-0001@t-dialin.net X-listar-version: Listar v0.129a Sender: vdr-bounce@linuxtv.org Errors-to: vdr-bounce@linuxtv.org X-original-sender: christophackermann@t-online.de Precedence: bulk Reply-to: vdr@linuxtv.org X-list: vdr Hello List, after a chrash of the vdr disk i set up an new one with SuSE 2.4.0 but when i compile the driver i get only this message below. I am a little confused, because i set up my vdr a few month ago, in the exact way and i had no problems with compiling. Thanks in advance for any hint Christoph lvdr1:/usr/local/DVB/driver # make DIR=`pwd`; (cd /usr/src/linux; make SUBDIRS=$DIR modules) make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.0.SuSE' make -C /usr/local/DVB/driver CFLAGS="-D__KERNEL__ -I/usr/src/linux/include -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 -march=i586 -DMODULE" MAKING_MODULES=1 modules make[2]: Entering directory `/usr/local/DVB/driver' g++ -O2 -o fdump fdump.cc make[2]: g++: Command not found make[2]: *** [fdump] Error 127 make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/DVB/driver' make[1]: *** [_mod_/usr/local/DVB/driver] Error 2 make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.0.SuSE' make: *** [here] Error 2 lvdr1:/usr/local/DVB/driver # From linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Sun Jan 06 17:48:09 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mhonarc@limes.convergence.de Received: (qmail 5532 invoked by uid 0); 6 Jan 2002 17:48:09 -0000 Received: from chambertin.convergence.de (212.84.236.2) by limes.convergence.de with SMTP; 6 Jan 2002 17:48:09 -0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=chambertin) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16NHGd-0007HO-00; Sun, 06 Jan 2002 18:39:31 +0100 Received: with LISTAR (v0.129a; list linux-dvb); Sun, 06 Jan 2002 18:39:18 +0100 (MET) Received: from mailout03.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.81]) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16NHGK-0007Ay-00; Sun, 06 Jan 2002 18:39:12 +0100 Received: from fwd00.sul.t-online.de by mailout03.sul.t-online.de with smtp id 16NGWv-0005FY-07; Sun, 06 Jan 2002 17:52:17 +0100 Received: from lws1 (0680491205-0001@[62.226.90.116]) by fwd00.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 16NGWi-2EB4i0C; Sun, 6 Jan 2002 17:52:04 +0100 Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2002 17:53:16 +0100 From: christophackermann@t-online.de (Christoph Ackermann) To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Cc: vdr@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Problems with compiling dvb driver vers 0.9_20011117 Message-Id: <20020106175316.2f90baf2.christophackermann@t-online.de> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.6.5 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i586-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Sender: 0680491205-0001@t-dialin.net X-listar-version: Listar v0.129a Sender: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Errors-to: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org X-original-sender: christophackermann@t-online.de Precedence: bulk X-list: linux-dvb Hello List, after a chrash of the vdr disk i set up an new one with SuSE 2.4.0 but when i compile the driver i get only this message below. I am a little confused, because i set up my vdr a few month ago, in the exact way and i had no problems with compiling. Thanks in advance for any hint Christoph lvdr1:/usr/local/DVB/driver # make DIR=`pwd`; (cd /usr/src/linux; make SUBDIRS=$DIR modules) make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.0.SuSE' make -C /usr/local/DVB/driver CFLAGS="-D__KERNEL__ -I/usr/src/linux/include -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 -march=i586 -DMODULE" MAKING_MODULES=1 modules make[2]: Entering directory `/usr/local/DVB/driver' g++ -O2 -o fdump fdump.cc make[2]: g++: Command not found make[2]: *** [fdump] Error 127 make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/DVB/driver' make[1]: *** [_mod_/usr/local/DVB/driver] Error 2 make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.0.SuSE' make: *** [here] Error 2 lvdr1:/usr/local/DVB/driver # -- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Sun Jan 06 18:05:47 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mhonarc@limes.convergence.de Received: (qmail 10786 invoked by uid 0); 6 Jan 2002 18:05:47 -0000 Received: from chambertin.convergence.de (212.84.236.2) by limes.convergence.de with SMTP; 6 Jan 2002 18:05:47 -0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=chambertin) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16NHXk-0008B0-00; Sun, 06 Jan 2002 18:57:12 +0100 Received: with LISTAR (v0.129a; list linux-dvb); Sun, 06 Jan 2002 18:57:00 +0100 (MET) Received: from ns.mtw-ow.asn-bgld.ac.at ([193.170.45.98] helo=gateway.mptw.ac.at) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16NHXX-000875-00 for ; Sun, 06 Jan 2002 18:56:59 +0100 Received: from peter ([212.186.10.100]) by gateway.mptw.ac.at (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-62291U100L2S100V35) with SMTP id at for ; Sun, 6 Jan 2002 19:00:53 +0100 Message-ID: <007001c196db$ed1a1bc0$0200a8c0@seyringer.priv.at> From: "Peter Seyringer" To: Subject: [linux-dvb] write raw data to dvb card Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2002 18:59:41 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-listar-version: Listar v0.129a Sender: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Errors-to: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org X-original-sender: dvrproject@seyringer.priv.at Precedence: bulk X-list: linux-dvb Hello! Is it posible to write raw data to the analog output? I mean to write the raw data throut the MPEG Encoder without converting it first to a I-Frame or write it after the MPEG encoder into the ram of the DAC? I only want to write pictures not a stream, so the bandwith is very low. It would be great if this feature is implementet into the driver to implement opentv. Peter -- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Sun Jan 06 18:16:30 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mhonarc@limes.convergence.de Received: (qmail 15368 invoked by uid 0); 6 Jan 2002 18:16:30 -0000 Received: from chambertin.convergence.de (212.84.236.2) by limes.convergence.de with SMTP; 6 Jan 2002 18:16:30 -0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=chambertin) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16NHi7-0001Dm-00; Sun, 06 Jan 2002 19:07:55 +0100 Received: with LISTAR (v0.129a; list linux-dvb); Sun, 06 Jan 2002 19:07:42 +0100 (MET) Received: from tistel.levonline.com ([193.15.191.243] helo=raven.levonline.com) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16NHhu-00019o-00 for ; Sun, 06 Jan 2002 19:07:42 +0100 Received: from knatte (h43n1fls32o808.telia.com [213.66.243.43]) (authenticated) by raven.levonline.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g06I7c225696; Sun, 6 Jan 2002 19:07:38 +0100 From: "Stefan Norberg" To: , Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: Tuning problem Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2002 19:07:50 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 In-Reply-To: <20020106114825.B12045@firsthop.com> Importance: Normal X-listar-version: Listar v0.129a Sender: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Errors-to: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org X-original-sender: stefan@orbisec.com Precedence: bulk X-list: linux-dvb Lauri Pesones writes: > TT claims to have a linux driver for their cards on request. I'll email > them and see what they answer. If the driver is crap, we could all (or at > least the TT DVB-C card owners) send an email to TT requesting them to > support Ralph in the driver development. I did ask them; see text below. They refer to linuxtv.org, which I find hillarious if they didn't even provide Ralph with a reference copy of the card. Regards, Stefan -----Original Message----- From: Nicole Hoffmann [mailto:firstname.lastname@technotrend.de] Sent: den 28 december 2001 09:23 To: 'Stefan Norberg' Subject: RE: TT-PCI DVB-C Linux driver Hello Stefan, the drivers for Linux are available at www.linuxtv.org I wish you all the best for 2002! Best regards, Nicole -----Ursprungliche Nachricht----- Von: Stefan Norberg [mailto:stefan@orbisec.com] Gesendet: Sonntag, 16. Dezember 2001 23:30 An: Nicole Hoffmann Betreff: TT-PCI DVB-C Linux driver; SDK / API Hello again Nicole, According to your web page you have drivers for Linux available "The software supports Windows 95 / 98 / ME / NT4.0 / 2000 / XP(tm); drivers for WinCE / MSTV(tm) and Linux are available on request". I am interested in drivers for Linux. Are thay provided free of charge or do I need to buy them from you? I am also interested in the latest SDK-kit (API) for your Windows (and Linux if avalable). Best regards, Stefan Norberg Orbisec AB -- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Sun Jan 06 18:27:45 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mhonarc@limes.convergence.de Received: (qmail 15981 invoked by uid 0); 6 Jan 2002 18:27:45 -0000 Received: from chambertin.convergence.de (212.84.236.2) by limes.convergence.de with SMTP; 6 Jan 2002 18:27:45 -0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=chambertin) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16NHsy-0001la-00; Sun, 06 Jan 2002 19:19:08 +0100 Received: with LISTAR (v0.129a; list linux-dvb); Sun, 06 Jan 2002 19:18:54 +0100 (MET) Received: from tistel.levonline.com ([193.15.191.243] helo=sork.levonline.com) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16NHsk-0001eo-00 for ; Sun, 06 Jan 2002 19:18:54 +0100 Received: from knatte (h43n1fls32o808.telia.com [213.66.243.43]) (authenticated) by sork.levonline.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g06IIqt06196; Sun, 6 Jan 2002 19:18:52 +0100 From: "Stefan Norberg" To: "Ralph Metzler" Cc: "Falck Kenneth" , Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: Tuning problem Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2002 19:19:04 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 In-Reply-To: <15415.57819.225226.101795@gargle.gargle.HOWL> Importance: Normal X-listar-version: Listar v0.129a Sender: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Errors-to: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org X-original-sender: stefan@orbisec.com Precedence: bulk X-list: linux-dvb Ralph Metzler writes: > > I'm also surprised by the uninterest from both Techonotrend and the driver > > developers at Convergence to fix this or even to provide input or hint > > on this issue. > > AFAIR, Technotrend never cared about Linux drivers at all. I > never received any information about their hardware from them. > (This is true for ALL card manufacturers except Siemens.) > So, why are you surprised now? I am really surprised because http://www.linuxtv.org/developer/dvb.xml said that the TT DVB-C card was *supported* (not "it might work") until I sent the burning tourch mail to the list... > We are also not interested in supporting each and every version of the > DVB cards, especially if we don't even have a sample card and won't > get any kind of help by the manufacturer to program the new chips > which might be on those cards. > Please explain exactly why we should be interested in supporting > such cards? I can't. But don't say you do then... I was hoping to run Linux on my VDR, but that won't seem to happen anytime soon. > > All I can do for now is to add a note on our WWW page that not > all card versions of all vendors work with the driver. > In 4 weeks all this will probably be a moot point anyway and all I > will be able to support then is a version 1.3 DVB-S card. That's a pity for the Linux community. Stefan -- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Sun Jan 06 18:55:36 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mhonarc@limes.convergence.de Received: (qmail 25787 invoked by uid 0); 6 Jan 2002 18:55:36 -0000 Received: from chambertin.convergence.de (212.84.236.2) by limes.convergence.de with SMTP; 6 Jan 2002 18:55:36 -0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=chambertin) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16NIJs-0003ed-00; Sun, 06 Jan 2002 19:46:56 +0100 Received: with LISTAR (v0.129a; list linux-dvb); Sun, 06 Jan 2002 19:46:45 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail.swelcom.fi ([194.100.33.13]) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16NIJg-0003cA-00 for ; Sun, 06 Jan 2002 19:46:44 +0100 Received: from swclus1.swelcom.swelcom.fi ([10.42.8.33]) by mail.swelcom.fi with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.3779); Sun, 6 Jan 2002 20:46:40 +0200 Received: by swclus1.swelcom.swelcom.fi with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Sun, 6 Jan 2002 20:46:40 +0200 Message-ID: <90D2243C3D0B8B4AB20FAA77AFD974B6373EDC@swclus1.swelcom.swelcom.fi> From: Falck Kenneth To: "'linux-dvb@linuxtv.org'" Subject: [linux-dvb] Where to buy a Siemens DVB-C card in Europe Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2002 20:46:35 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Jan 2002 18:46:40.0249 (UTC) FILETIME=[7A58A690:01C196E2] X-listar-version: Listar v0.129a Sender: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Errors-to: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org X-original-sender: kennu@swelcom.fi Precedence: bulk X-list: linux-dvb Hi, Does anybody have good advice where to buy one of those Siemens DVB-C cards that work with Linux? (I believe the correct model name is 'Siemens PCI-DVB Cable'.) I need some place that we can send an order in English and pay by credit card / invoice / c.o.d. It's difficult to do commerce with all those German shops that don't have an English web interface. They also seem to offer mostly DVB-S equipment only. -- Kenneth Falck SWelcom Oy R&D Manager Ludviginkatu 6-8 +358 40 5103121 00130 Helsinki, Finland -- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Sun Jan 06 20:33:49 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mhonarc@limes.convergence.de Received: (qmail 27222 invoked by uid 0); 6 Jan 2002 20:33:49 -0000 Received: from chambertin.convergence.de (212.84.236.2) by limes.convergence.de with SMTP; 6 Jan 2002 20:33:49 -0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=chambertin) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16NJqo-0001OQ-00; Sun, 06 Jan 2002 21:25:02 +0100 Received: with LISTAR (v0.129a; list linux-dvb); Sun, 06 Jan 2002 21:24:43 +0100 (MET) Received: from dial-195-14-250-40.netcologne.de ([195.14.250.40] helo=rjkm.de) by chambertin.convergence.de with TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168 encrypted esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16NJqT-0001LK-00 for ; Sun, 06 Jan 2002 21:24:42 +0100 Received: (from rjkm@localhost) by rjkm.de (8.12.0.Beta19/8.12.0.Beta19) id g06KOUOJ001481; Sun, 6 Jan 2002 21:24:30 +0100 From: Ralph Metzler Message-ID: <15416.45693.933715.223315@gargle.gargle.HOWL> Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2002 21:24:29 +0100 To: "Stefan Norberg" Cc: "Falck Kenneth" , Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: Tuning problem In-Reply-To: References: <15415.57819.225226.101795@gargle.gargle.HOWL> X-Mailer: VM 6.95 under 21.4 (patch 4) "Artificial Intelligence" XEmacs Lucid Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 1.8) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-listar-version: Listar v0.129a Sender: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Errors-to: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org X-original-sender: rjkm@convergence.de Precedence: bulk X-list: linux-dvb Stefan Norberg writes: > Ralph Metzler writes: > > > I'm also surprised by the uninterest from both Techonotrend and the > driver > > > developers at Convergence to fix this or even to provide input or hint > > > on this issue. > > > > AFAIR, Technotrend never cared about Linux drivers at all. I > > never received any information about their hardware from them. > > (This is true for ALL card manufacturers except Siemens.) > > So, why are you surprised now? > > I am really surprised because http://www.linuxtv.org/developer/dvb.xml said > that > the TT DVB-C card was *supported* (not "it might work") until I sent the > burning > tourch mail to the list... Actually, http://www.linuxtv.org/developer/dvb.xml only mentions the Siemens card (also before your mail). The Techontrend DVB-C card was only mentioned at http://www.linuxtv.org/dvb/market.xml I now corrected this page. Sorry, I really did not know that the revision 2.1 TT DVB-C card does not work. I still would like to know if there is and older TT DVB-C version and if this one does work. Ralph -- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Mon Jan 07 08:05:41 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mhonarc@limes.convergence.de Received: (qmail 25163 invoked by uid 0); 7 Jan 2002 08:05:41 -0000 Received: from chambertin.convergence.de (212.84.236.2) by limes.convergence.de with SMTP; 7 Jan 2002 08:05:41 -0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=chambertin) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16NUeW-0003zr-00; Mon, 07 Jan 2002 08:57:04 +0100 Received: with LISTAR (v0.129a; list linux-dvb); Mon, 07 Jan 2002 08:56:54 +0100 (MET) Received: from zeus.lce.hut.fi ([130.233.245.4] ident=root) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16NUeL-0003yC-00 for ; Mon, 07 Jan 2002 08:56:53 +0100 Received: from hylas (hylas.winlce.lce.hut.fi [130.233.245.95]) by zeus.lce.hut.fi (8.11.6/8.11.6/Revision: 2.1 Author: kim) with SMTP id g077ujJ24693 for ; Mon, 7 Jan 2002 09:56:49 +0200 (EET) Message-ID: <019801c19750$dc267410$5ff5e982@winlce.lce.hut.fi> From: "Roman Terechonkov" To: Subject: [linux-dvb] compilation problem Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 09:56:45 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-listar-version: Listar v0.129a Sender: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Errors-to: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org X-original-sender: teresh@lce.hut.fi Precedence: bulk X-list: linux-dvb Hi, I have some questions. 1. I am using Nova-t dvb card. I have managed to compile driver from siemens-dvb package. Installation was also allright. But when I wanted to compile apps I got errors. Here is a cut some of them from the begining: ______________________________________________________________________________________ make[4]: Entering directory `/usr/src/DVB/apps/tuxzap/src' c++ -g -O2 -o tuxzap tuxzap.o interface.o audio.o channel.o common.o tree.o -L../../../libdvb/src/si ../../../libdvb/DVB.o ../../../libdvb/devices.o ../../../libdvb/OSD.o -lsi -lpthread -L/usr/X11R6/lib -lXxf86vm -lXxf86dga -lXv -L/usr/lib -L/usr/X11R6/lib -lgtk -lgdk -rdynamic -lgmodule -lglib -ldl -lXi -lXext -lX11 -lm c++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.. -I/usr/include/gtk-1.2 -I/usr/include/glib-1.2 -I/usr/lib/glib/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -I.. -I/usr/local/include -I../../../libdvb -I../../../libdvb/include -I../../../libdvb/src -I../../../driver -I../include -I../../../ost/include -g -O2 -c ntuxzap.cc ntuxzap.cc:37: syntax error before `*' ntuxzap.cc:116: `EObjectType' was not declared in this scope ntuxzap.cc:116: parse error before `,' ntuxzap.cc: In function `int save_ch (...)': ntuxzap.cc:118: `data' undeclared (first use this function) ntuxzap.cc:118: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once for each function it appears in.) ntuxzap.cc:128: `copyChar' undeclared (first use this function) ntuxzap.cc:131: `cdkscreen' undeclared (first use this function) ntuxzap.cc:131: `popupLabel' undeclared (first use this function) ntuxzap.cc: At top level: ntuxzap.cc:144: `EObjectType' was not declared in this scope ntuxzap.cc:144: parse error before `,' ntuxzap.cc: In function `int del_ch (...)': ntuxzap.cc:163: warning: no return statement in function returning non-void ___________________________________________________________________________________________ What is wrong? 2.Where does live FrontendType description? 3.I installed driver for my Tv card .It was ok. I compiled tuxzap and run it.Then pressed dvb button. But I can not get any TS from dvr device. How can I find out that tuxzap works correctly? Is it possible to recieve some garbage from dvr if there is no signal? Or one can recieve data form dvr only if there is some channel signal? 4.Is it right that there is no a whole software under linux that allowes to use Nova-t card like xawtv? Is there any developing in this region? Regards Roman -- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Mon Jan 07 08:46:48 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mhonarc@limes.convergence.de Received: (qmail 7075 invoked by uid 0); 7 Jan 2002 08:46:48 -0000 Received: from chambertin.convergence.de (212.84.236.2) by limes.convergence.de with SMTP; 7 Jan 2002 08:46:48 -0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=chambertin) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16NVIG-0007gB-00; Mon, 07 Jan 2002 09:38:08 +0100 Received: with LISTAR (v0.129a; list linux-dvb); Mon, 07 Jan 2002 09:37:55 +0100 (MET) Received: from dsl-212-23-11-245.zen.co.uk ([212.23.11.245] helo=exterminate.tv) by chambertin.convergence.de with smtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16NVI1-0007ZR-00 for ; Mon, 07 Jan 2002 09:37:53 +0100 Received: (qmail 21636 invoked from network); 7 Jan 2002 08:50:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lapdancer) (jon@192.168.0.16) by dsl-212-23-11-245.zen.co.uk with SMTP; 7 Jan 2002 08:50:46 -0000 From: "Jon Folland" To: "Roman Terechonkov" , Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: compilation problem Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 08:35:20 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <019801c19750$dc267410$5ff5e982@winlce.lce.hut.fi> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Importance: Normal X-listar-version: Listar v0.129a Sender: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Errors-to: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org X-original-sender: jon@nativ.tv Precedence: bulk X-list: linux-dvb Get the most up to date source. Either from CVS on the linuxtv.org site or from http://www.linuxdvb.tv/download/ -----Original Message----- From: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org [mailto:linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org]On Behalf Of Roman Terechonkov Sent: 07 January 2002 07:57 To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] compilation problem Hi, I have some questions. 1. I am using Nova-t dvb card. I have managed to compile driver from siemens-dvb package. Installation was also allright. But when I wanted to compile apps I got errors. Here is a cut some of them from the begining: ____________________________________________________________________________ __________ make[4]: Entering directory `/usr/src/DVB/apps/tuxzap/src' c++ -g -O2 -o tuxzap tuxzap.o interface.o audio.o channel.o common.o tree.o -L../../../libdvb/src/si ../../../libdvb/DVB.o ../../../libdvb/devices.o ../../../libdvb/OSD.o -lsi -lpthread -L/usr/X11R6/lib -lXxf86vm -lXxf86dga -lXv -L/usr/lib -L/usr/X11R6/lib -lgtk -lgdk -rdynamic -lgmodule -lglib - ldl -lXi -lXext -lX11 -lm c++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.. -I/usr/include/gtk-1.2 -I/usr/include/glib- 1.2 -I/usr/lib/glib/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -I.. -I/usr/local/include -I../../../libdvb -I../../../libdvb/incl ude -I../../../libdvb/src -I../../../driver -I../include -I../../../ost/include -g -O2 -c ntuxzap.cc ntuxzap.cc:37: syntax error before `*' ntuxzap.cc:116: `EObjectType' was not declared in this scope ntuxzap.cc:116: parse error before `,' ntuxzap.cc: In function `int save_ch (...)': ntuxzap.cc:118: `data' undeclared (first use this function) ntuxzap.cc:118: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once for each function it appears in.) ntuxzap.cc:128: `copyChar' undeclared (first use this function) ntuxzap.cc:131: `cdkscreen' undeclared (first use this function) ntuxzap.cc:131: `popupLabel' undeclared (first use this function) ntuxzap.cc: At top level: ntuxzap.cc:144: `EObjectType' was not declared in this scope ntuxzap.cc:144: parse error before `,' ntuxzap.cc: In function `int del_ch (...)': ntuxzap.cc:163: warning: no return statement in function returning non-void ____________________________________________________________________________ _______________ What is wrong? 2.Where does live FrontendType description? 3.I installed driver for my Tv card .It was ok. I compiled tuxzap and run it.Then pressed dvb button. But I can not get any TS from dvr device. How can I find out that tuxzap works correctly? Is it possible to recieve some garbage from dvr if there is no signal? Or one can recieve data form dvr only if there is some channel signal? 4.Is it right that there is no a whole software under linux that allowes to use Nova-t card like xawtv? Is there any developing in this region? Regards Roman -- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. -- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Mon Jan 07 10:08:49 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mhonarc@limes.convergence.de Received: (qmail 32096 invoked by uid 0); 7 Jan 2002 10:08:49 -0000 Received: from chambertin.convergence.de (212.84.236.2) by limes.convergence.de with SMTP; 7 Jan 2002 10:08:49 -0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=chambertin) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16NWZg-0005Sm-00; Mon, 07 Jan 2002 11:00:12 +0100 Received: with LISTAR (v0.129a; list linux-dvb); Mon, 07 Jan 2002 11:00:01 +0100 (MET) Received: from smtp.compuserve.de ([62.52.27.101] helo=demdwu43.mediaways.net) by chambertin.convergence.de with smtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16NM0q-0000wE-00 for ; Sun, 06 Jan 2002 23:43:32 +0100 Received: (qmail 4136 invoked by uid 4218); 6 Jan 2002 22:43:30 -0000 Received: from acb2aa68.ipt.aol.com (HELO upb.de) (172.178.170.104) by relay1a with SMTP; 6 Jan 2002 22:43:30 -0000 Sender: boom Message-ID: <3C38D35B.2F4830AF@upb.de> Date: Sun, 06 Jan 2002 23:44:43 +0100 From: Jens Rosenboom X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [de] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.7-4GB i686) X-Accept-Language: de, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Cable version of Nova/Budget Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Approved-By: dirk@convergence.de X-listar-version: Listar v0.129a Sender: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Errors-to: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org X-original-sender: dirk@convergence.de Precedence: bulk X-list: linux-dvb Hello all, is there a cable TV version of the Nova aka. Budget cards (without MPEG decoder)? How many digital programmes can you receive in your local cable network? Thanks in advance cheers Jens -- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Mon Jan 07 10:39:52 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mhonarc@limes.convergence.de Received: (qmail 9545 invoked by uid 0); 7 Jan 2002 10:39:52 -0000 Received: from chambertin.convergence.de (212.84.236.2) by limes.convergence.de with SMTP; 7 Jan 2002 10:39:52 -0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=chambertin) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16NX3o-0008L4-00; Mon, 07 Jan 2002 11:31:20 +0100 Received: with LISTAR (v0.129a; list linux-dvb); Mon, 07 Jan 2002 11:31:07 +0100 (MET) Received: from [202.96.44.20] (helo=smtp.263.net) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16NX3b-0008H6-00 for ; Mon, 07 Jan 2002 11:31:07 +0100 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.263.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 651AD1DD2E8A9 for ; Mon, 7 Jan 2002 18:30:43 +0800 (CST) Message-ID: <000b01c19765$f61755a0$07040278@my> From: "Frank Ta" To: "liuxtv" Subject: [linux-dvb] Just Test Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 18:27:49 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="gb2312" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 X-listar-version: Listar v0.129a Sender: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Errors-to: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org X-original-sender: frankta@263.net Precedence: bulk X-list: linux-dvb SnVzdCB0byB0ZXN0IGlmIHRoZSBtYWlsaW5nbGlzdCBpcyBzdGlsbCBhbGl2ZS4NCg== -- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Mon Jan 07 12:39:33 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mhonarc@limes.convergence.de Received: (qmail 16471 invoked by uid 0); 7 Jan 2002 12:39:32 -0000 Received: from chambertin.convergence.de (212.84.236.2) by limes.convergence.de with SMTP; 7 Jan 2002 12:39:32 -0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=chambertin) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16NYoT-0006lC-00; Mon, 07 Jan 2002 13:23:37 +0100 Received: with LISTAR (v0.129a; list linux-dvb); Mon, 07 Jan 2002 13:22:39 +0100 (MET) Received: from dial-195-14-251-75.netcologne.de ([195.14.251.75] helo=rjkm.de) by chambertin.convergence.de with TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168 encrypted esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16NYn9-0006gr-00 for ; Mon, 07 Jan 2002 13:22:29 +0100 Received: (from rjkm@localhost) by rjkm.de (8.12.0.Beta19/8.12.0.Beta19) id g07CKowY000938; Mon, 7 Jan 2002 13:20:50 +0100 From: Ralph Metzler Message-ID: <15417.37538.644865.782966@gargle.gargle.HOWL> Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 13:20:50 +0100 To: Jens Rosenboom Cc: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Cable version of Nova/Budget In-Reply-To: <3C38D35B.2F4830AF@upb.de> References: <3C38D35B.2F4830AF@upb.de> X-Mailer: VM 6.95 under 21.4 (patch 4) "Artificial Intelligence" XEmacs Lucid Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 1.8) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-listar-version: Listar v0.129a Sender: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Errors-to: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org X-original-sender: rjkm@convergence.de Precedence: bulk X-list: linux-dvb Jens Rosenboom writes: > Hello all, > > is there a cable TV version of the Nova aka. Budget cards (without MPEG > decoder)? > How many digital programmes can you receive in your local cable network? > Yes, there is a DVB-C version of the Nova/Budget card. But considering the recent discussion about DVB-C cards I have to warn you that I also never used a DVB-C Nova card and that I do not know if it works with the current drivers. Ralph -- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Mon Jan 07 13:17:36 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mhonarc@limes.convergence.de Received: (qmail 30666 invoked by uid 0); 7 Jan 2002 13:17:36 -0000 Received: from chambertin.convergence.de (212.84.236.2) by limes.convergence.de with SMTP; 7 Jan 2002 13:17:36 -0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=chambertin) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16NZWQ-0002nX-00; Mon, 07 Jan 2002 14:09:02 +0100 Received: with LISTAR (v0.129a; list linux-dvb); Mon, 07 Jan 2002 14:08:49 +0100 (MET) Received: from pc1-camb6-0-cust238.cam.cable.ntl.com ([62.253.135.238] helo=bob.daviesfam.org) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16NZ6F-0008Lt-00 for ; Mon, 07 Jan 2002 13:41:59 +0100 Received: by bob.daviesfam.org (Postfix, from userid 501) id 4F64C5A229; Mon, 7 Jan 2002 12:41:58 +0000 (GMT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bob.daviesfam.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4632D42A69 for ; Mon, 7 Jan 2002 12:41:58 +0000 (GMT) Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 12:41:58 +0000 (GMT) From: Stephen Davies To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Hauppauge Nova-T card, newbie worried about reception Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Approved-By: dirk@convergence.de X-listar-version: Listar v0.129a Sender: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Errors-to: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org X-original-sender: dirk@convergence.de Precedence: bulk X-list: linux-dvb Hi, I currently use a Linux PC with two Hauppauge WinTV cards as a PVR system in my living room. I'm highly tempted to add a Nova-T card to my setup. This whole project is supposed to be a self-education exercise, so adding DVB reception seems a great next step. And I see here some people have this card working in the UK, so it should work in principle... But getting started is a bit daunting: I've never worked with the DVB stack, this card, I don't know if my aerial is suitable, etc etc. Given that I don't even know if my aerial can pull in the signal, I could be in for a frustrating time. Where can I go for advice on aerials? I currently get analogue from Sandy Heath. I'm in Cambridge. My aerial is in the loft. I see that Sandy Heath is also the recommended digital transmitter - but field strength at my location is much lower than for analogue. At http://www.wolfbane.com/cgi-bin/tvd.exe?DX=L&OS=TL4463 is the digital prediction for my village: 47 dBuV/m. For analogue, 73 dBuV/m is predicted. Perhaps I'm not interpretting these correctly, but 30dB is a big difference! Perhaps not surprising as the transmitter EIRP is 10kW as opposed to 1MW for the analogue. That predictor site says I'll need an "amplified extra-high gain antenna". Oo-err. Cambridge isn't exactly the middle of nowhere, so this is a bit surprising! Any pointers or advice would be gratefully received! Thanks, Steve -- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Mon Jan 07 14:17:35 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mhonarc@limes.convergence.de Received: (qmail 18039 invoked by uid 0); 7 Jan 2002 14:17:35 -0000 Received: from chambertin.convergence.de (212.84.236.2) by limes.convergence.de with SMTP; 7 Jan 2002 14:17:35 -0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=chambertin) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16NaSX-0000yc-00; Mon, 07 Jan 2002 15:09:05 +0100 Received: with LISTAR (v0.129a; list linux-dvb); Mon, 07 Jan 2002 15:08:53 +0100 (MET) Received: from [150.165.253.214] (helo=rtgab.reitoria.ufpb.br) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16NaFt-00083P-00 for ; Mon, 07 Jan 2002 14:56:01 +0100 Received: from laranja.ead.ufpb.br (dhcp184.nti.ufpb.br [150.165.250.184]) by rtgab.reitoria.ufpb.br (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g07Ds8x01191 for ; Mon, 7 Jan 2002 11:54:36 -0200 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20020106114607.009ecc50@pop3.norton.antivirus> X-Sender: andre@ead.ufpb.br (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sun, 06 Jan 2002 11:59:06 -0200 To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Andr=E9?= Elia Assad Subject: [linux-dvb] mrouted problem Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain X-Approved-By: dirk@convergence.de X-listar-version: Listar v0.129a Sender: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Errors-to: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org X-original-sender: dirk@convergence.de Precedence: bulk X-list: linux-dvb Hi, i´ve seen your messages and i had a problem using mrouted version 3.9-beta3+IOS12 in a kernel 2.4.9-13. When i try to start (mrouted -c /etc/mrouted.conf -d) the mrouted the following message apears: debug level 0x2de (pruning,routing,peers,cache,interface,membership,igmp) mrouted version 3.9-beta3+IOS12 starting Getting vifs from kernel interfaces Getting vifs from /etc/mrouted.conf installing tunnel from 150.165.133.233 to 150.165.232.192 as vif #0 - rate=0 can't forward: only one enabled vif Why it can't forward? I would be very please if somebody could help me! Thanks. André Elia Assad -- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Mon Jan 07 14:47:35 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mhonarc@limes.convergence.de Received: (qmail 27848 invoked by uid 0); 7 Jan 2002 14:47:35 -0000 Received: from chambertin.convergence.de (212.84.236.2) by limes.convergence.de with SMTP; 7 Jan 2002 14:47:35 -0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=chambertin) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16Narq-0001Mb-00; Mon, 07 Jan 2002 15:35:14 +0100 Received: with LISTAR (v0.129a; list linux-dvb); Mon, 07 Jan 2002 15:29:53 +0100 (MET) Received: from gw-nl4.philips.com ([212.153.190.6]) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16NamV-0000I6-00 for ; Mon, 07 Jan 2002 15:29:44 +0100 Received: from smtpscan-nl3.philips.com (localhost.philips.com [127.0.0.1]) by gw-nl4.philips.com with ESMTP id PAA19376 for ; Mon, 7 Jan 2002 15:29:03 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from stuart.butterfield@philips.com) Received: from smtpscan-nl3.philips.com(130.139.36.23) by gw-nl4.philips.com via mwrap (4.0a) id xma019334; Mon, 7 Jan 02 15:29:04 +0100 Received: from smtprelay-nl1.philips.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtpscan-nl3.philips.com (8.9.3/8.8.5-1.2.2m-19990317) with ESMTP id PAA29358 for ; Mon, 7 Jan 2002 15:29:39 +0100 (MET) Received: from prlr.prl.research.philips.com.prl.research.philips.com (prlhp1.prl.research.philips.com [130.141.10.82]) by smtprelay-nl1.philips.com (8.9.3/8.8.5-1.2.2m-19990317) with ESMTP id PAA05804 for ; Mon, 7 Jan 2002 15:29:38 +0100 (MET) Received: from prl.research.philips.com by prlr.prl.research.philips.com.prl.research.philips.com; Mon, 7 Jan 2002 14:28:59 GMT Received: from flora.paracept.com.168.192.in-addr.arpa (ras-dynamic6.prl.research.philips.com [130.141.145.105]) by prl.research.philips.com (8.10.2+Sun/prsun11) with ESMTP id g07ETsP14925 for ; Mon, 7 Jan 2002 14:29:54 GMT Received: (from butterfi@localhost) by flora.paracept.com.168.192.in-addr.arpa (8.11.6/8.11.2) id g07EOwm01996 for linux-dvb@linuxtv.org; Mon, 7 Jan 2002 14:24:58 GMT Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 14:24:58 GMT From: Dr Stuart Butterfield Message-Id: <200201071424.g07EOwm01996@flora.paracept.com.168.192.in-addr.arpa> To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] DVB-T and cat /dev/ost/dvr X-listar-version: Listar v0.129a Sender: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Errors-to: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org X-original-sender: stuart.butterfield@philips.com Precedence: bulk X-list: linux-dvb Hi, I'm unable to get anything out of 'cat /dev/ost/dvr' with either my Nova-t or Technotrend DVB-T cards. TV out is fine with the Technotrend and both cards work with dvbstream. However, I'm having a problem with recording/playback under vdr and wanted to see how dumping the TS manually compared. I've checked the archive which mention ntuxzap -e but I don't think this works with DVB-T. Any pointers? Thanks. Stuart -- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Mon Jan 07 14:48:09 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mhonarc@limes.convergence.de Received: (qmail 27854 invoked by uid 0); 7 Jan 2002 14:48:09 -0000 Received: from chambertin.convergence.de (212.84.236.2) by limes.convergence.de with SMTP; 7 Jan 2002 14:48:09 -0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=chambertin) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16NasW-0001PI-00; Mon, 07 Jan 2002 15:35:56 +0100 Received: with LISTAR (v0.129a; list linux-dvb); Mon, 07 Jan 2002 15:31:50 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail.swelcom.fi ([194.100.33.13]) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16NaoU-0000gS-00 for ; Mon, 07 Jan 2002 15:31:46 +0100 Received: from swclus1.swelcom.swelcom.fi ([10.42.8.33]) by mail.swelcom.fi with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.3779); Mon, 7 Jan 2002 16:31:42 +0200 Received: by swclus1.swelcom.swelcom.fi with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Mon, 7 Jan 2002 16:31:42 +0200 Message-ID: <90D2243C3D0B8B4AB20FAA77AFD974B6373EEE@swclus1.swelcom.swelcom.fi> From: Falck Kenneth To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] TechnoTrend DVB-C PCI v. 2.1 Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 16:31:42 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Jan 2002 14:31:42.0380 (UTC) FILETIME=[0684D6C0:01C19788] X-listar-version: Listar v0.129a Sender: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Errors-to: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org X-original-sender: kennu@swelcom.fi Precedence: bulk X-list: linux-dvb Hi, Just to confirm this, I checked by card revision too and it's a C-Rev.2.1. The onboard chips also match the list seen here earlier. (I'm one of the people who couldn't get the card to work in Linux. However in my case, the drivers load without errors but they just don't tune to anything.) Any advice on how to proceed if I wanted to take a look at the drivers myself? Would it be enough just to change or add something to the old drivers or are we talking about a complete rewrite? Any hardware specs floating around? -- Kenneth Falck SWelcom Oy R&D Manager Ludviginkatu 6-8 +358 40 5103121 00130 Helsinki, Finland -- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Mon Jan 07 15:01:02 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mhonarc@limes.convergence.de Received: (qmail 317 invoked by uid 0); 7 Jan 2002 15:01:02 -0000 Received: from chambertin.convergence.de (212.84.236.2) by limes.convergence.de with SMTP; 7 Jan 2002 15:01:02 -0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=chambertin) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16Nb8Q-0003NK-00; Mon, 07 Jan 2002 15:52:22 +0100 Received: with LISTAR (v0.129a; list linux-dvb); Mon, 07 Jan 2002 15:50:30 +0100 (MET) Received: from web14606.mail.yahoo.com ([216.136.224.86]) by chambertin.convergence.de with smtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16Nb6Z-0002lX-00 for ; Mon, 07 Jan 2002 15:50:27 +0100 Message-ID: <20020107145016.79749.qmail@web14606.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [62.132.15.253] by web14606.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 07 Jan 2002 15:50:16 CET Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 15:50:16 +0100 (CET) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Andreas=20Roever?= Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: TechnoTrend DVB-C PCI v. 2.1 To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org In-Reply-To: <90D2243C3D0B8B4AB20FAA77AFD974B6373EEE@swclus1.swelcom.swelcom.fi> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-listar-version: Listar v0.129a Sender: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Errors-to: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org X-original-sender: andreas_roever@yahoo.com Precedence: bulk X-list: linux-dvb Hi, > Any advice on how to proceed if I wanted to take a > look at the drivers > myself? Would it be enough just to change or add > something to the old > drivers or are we talking about a complete rewrite? > Any hardware specs > floating around? on http://products.zarlink.com/partfinder/prodprofile.cgi?device=497 you can find the spec of something that looks like the tuner chip. But I don't know. If someone could confirm this I'd be happy. Andreas __________________________________________________________________ Gesendet von Yahoo! Mail - http://mail.yahoo.de Ihre E-Mail noch individueller? - http://domains.yahoo.de -- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Mon Jan 07 15:02:10 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mhonarc@limes.convergence.de Received: (qmail 333 invoked by uid 0); 7 Jan 2002 15:02:10 -0000 Received: from chambertin.convergence.de (212.84.236.2) by limes.convergence.de with SMTP; 7 Jan 2002 15:02:10 -0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=chambertin) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16Nb9f-0003bL-00; Mon, 07 Jan 2002 15:53:39 +0100 Received: with LISTAR (v0.129a; list linux-dvb); Mon, 07 Jan 2002 15:52:02 +0100 (MET) Received: from mx0.gmx.net ([213.165.64.100]) by chambertin.convergence.de with smtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16Nb85-0003De-00 for ; Mon, 07 Jan 2002 15:52:01 +0100 Received: (qmail 25153 invoked by uid 0); 7 Jan 2002 14:51:52 -0000 Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 15:51:51 +0100 (MET) From: joachim.koenig@gmx.net To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: TechnoTrend DVB-C PCI v. 2.1 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-Authenticated-Sender: #0000212718@gmx.net X-Authenticated-IP: [194.42.63.2] Message-ID: <5676.1010415111@www47.gmx.net> X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 1.5 (Global Message Exchange) X-Flags: 0001 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-listar-version: Listar v0.129a Sender: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Errors-to: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org X-original-sender: joachim.koenig@gmx.net Precedence: bulk X-list: linux-dvb On Monday, January 07, 2002 3:32 PM, Falck Kenneth [SMTP:kennu@swelcom.fi] wrote: > Hi, > > Just to confirm this, I checked by card revision too and it's a C-Rev.2.1. > The onboard chips also match the list seen here earlier. > > (I'm one of the people who couldn't get the card to work in Linux. However > in my case, the drivers load without errors but they just don't tune to > anything.) > > Any advice on how to proceed if I wanted to take a look at the drivers > myself? Would it be enough just to change or add something to the old > drivers or are we talking about a complete rewrite? Any hardware specs > floating around? I assume the problem is the tuner. The FE status shows that there is a signal but no sync (as if the frequency is wrongly set). As this card works for me under Windows, I will try to log the i2c traffic to the tuner and the VES1820 chip tonight. I hope this will help. mfg Joachim -- GMX - Die Kommunikationsplattform im Internet. http://www.gmx.net -- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Mon Jan 07 15:56:31 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mhonarc@limes.convergence.de Received: (qmail 15549 invoked by uid 0); 7 Jan 2002 15:56:31 -0000 Received: from chambertin.convergence.de (212.84.236.2) by limes.convergence.de with SMTP; 7 Jan 2002 15:56:31 -0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=chambertin) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16Nbwq-00075W-00; Mon, 07 Jan 2002 16:44:28 +0100 Received: with LISTAR (v0.129a; list linux-dvb); Mon, 07 Jan 2002 16:39:43 +0100 (MET) Received: from [193.45.189.139] (helo=pcmsgroup.com) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16NbsA-0006qk-00 for ; Mon, 07 Jan 2002 16:39:38 +0100 Received: from [192.168.161.55] (account john.williams@pcmsdatafit.co.uk HELO JohnW.pcmsdatafit.co.uk) by pcmsgroup.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.4.5) with ESMTP id 709208 for linux-dvb@linuxtv.org; Mon, 07 Jan 2002 15:58:41 +0000 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.1.20020107153603.009fa030@mail-host.pcmsgroup.com> X-Sender: John.Williams@pcmsdatafit.co.uk@mail-host.pcmsgroup.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2002 15:39:07 +0000 To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org From: JohnW Subject: [linux-dvb] Driver for original firmware Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-listar-version: Listar v0.129a Sender: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Errors-to: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org X-original-sender: John.Williams@pcmsdatafit.co.uk Precedence: bulk X-list: linux-dvb Hello everyone, Thanks to Henning Holtschneider, the modified version of the driver I made to work with the original firmware can now be downloaded from http://www.linuxdvb.tv/driver/index.html. I've now got the CAM menu working. Sadly it seems that it does not currently work with the revision 2.1 card. John ______________________________________________ The information contained in this e-mail is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, the use of this information or any disclosure, copying or distribution is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. The views expressed in this e-mail may not necessarily be the views of The PCMS Group plc and should not be taken as authority to carry out any instruction contained. -- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Mon Jan 07 18:00:05 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mhonarc@limes.convergence.de Received: (qmail 23670 invoked by uid 0); 7 Jan 2002 18:00:05 -0000 Received: from chambertin.convergence.de (212.84.236.2) by limes.convergence.de with SMTP; 7 Jan 2002 18:00:05 -0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=chambertin) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16Ndvr-0007uF-00; Mon, 07 Jan 2002 18:51:35 +0100 Received: with LISTAR (v0.129a; list linux-dvb); Mon, 07 Jan 2002 18:47:04 +0100 (MET) Received: from pc1-camb6-0-cust238.cam.cable.ntl.com ([62.253.135.238] helo=bob.daviesfam.org) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16NdF8-0004oR-00 for ; Mon, 07 Jan 2002 18:07:26 +0100 Received: by bob.daviesfam.org (Postfix, from userid 501) id 09C1B5A229; Mon, 7 Jan 2002 17:07:25 +0000 (GMT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bob.daviesfam.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00C9342A69 for ; Mon, 7 Jan 2002 17:07:24 +0000 (GMT) Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 17:07:24 +0000 (GMT) From: Stephen Davies To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] DVB background info, linux-dvb architecture? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Approved-By: dirk@convergence.de X-listar-version: Listar v0.129a Sender: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Errors-to: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org X-original-sender: dirk@convergence.de Precedence: bulk X-list: linux-dvb Hi, Are there some recommended DVB background documents out there on the web to help me get started with understanding it? Secondly - some reading to help understand the architecture of the linux-dvb stuff - what the different components do and so forth? Many thanks, Steve -- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Mon Jan 07 18:16:09 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mhonarc@limes.convergence.de Received: (qmail 32048 invoked by uid 0); 7 Jan 2002 18:16:09 -0000 Received: from chambertin.convergence.de (212.84.236.2) by limes.convergence.de with SMTP; 7 Jan 2002 18:16:09 -0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=chambertin) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16NeBR-0000xW-00; Mon, 07 Jan 2002 19:07:41 +0100 Received: with LISTAR (v0.129a; list linux-dvb); Mon, 07 Jan 2002 19:04:16 +0100 (MET) Received: from dsl-212-23-11-245.zen.co.uk ([212.23.11.245] helo=exterminate.tv) by chambertin.convergence.de with smtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16Ne84-0000iz-00 for ; Mon, 07 Jan 2002 19:04:12 +0100 Received: (qmail 24642 invoked from network); 7 Jan 2002 18:17:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lapdancer) (jon@192.168.0.16) by dsl-212-23-11-245.zen.co.uk with SMTP; 7 Jan 2002 18:17:14 -0000 From: "Jon Folland" To: "Stephen Davies" , Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: Hauppauge Nova-T card, newbie worried about reception Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 18:02:01 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-listar-version: Listar v0.129a Sender: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Errors-to: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org X-original-sender: jon@nativ.tv Precedence: bulk X-list: linux-dvb I bought a DVB-T card and found a portable aerial with integrated booster for 20 quid worked fine. I am in an area with bad reception also. -----Original Message----- From: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org [mailto:linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org]On Behalf Of Stephen Davies Sent: 07 January 2002 12:42 To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Hauppauge Nova-T card, newbie worried about reception Hi, I currently use a Linux PC with two Hauppauge WinTV cards as a PVR system in my living room. I'm highly tempted to add a Nova-T card to my setup. This whole project is supposed to be a self-education exercise, so adding DVB reception seems a great next step. And I see here some people have this card working in the UK, so it should work in principle... But getting started is a bit daunting: I've never worked with the DVB stack, this card, I don't know if my aerial is suitable, etc etc. Given that I don't even know if my aerial can pull in the signal, I could be in for a frustrating time. Where can I go for advice on aerials? I currently get analogue from Sandy Heath. I'm in Cambridge. My aerial is in the loft. I see that Sandy Heath is also the recommended digital transmitter - but field strength at my location is much lower than for analogue. At http://www.wolfbane.com/cgi-bin/tvd.exe?DX=L&OS=TL4463 is the digital prediction for my village: 47 dBuV/m. For analogue, 73 dBuV/m is predicted. Perhaps I'm not interpretting these correctly, but 30dB is a big difference! Perhaps not surprising as the transmitter EIRP is 10kW as opposed to 1MW for the analogue. That predictor site says I'll need an "amplified extra-high gain antenna". Oo-err. Cambridge isn't exactly the middle of nowhere, so this is a bit surprising! Any pointers or advice would be gratefully received! Thanks, Steve -- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. -- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Mon Jan 07 19:10:05 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mhonarc@limes.convergence.de Received: (qmail 14633 invoked by uid 0); 7 Jan 2002 19:10:05 -0000 Received: from chambertin.convergence.de (212.84.236.2) by limes.convergence.de with SMTP; 7 Jan 2002 19:10:05 -0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=chambertin) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16Nf1e-0004a4-00; Mon, 07 Jan 2002 20:01:38 +0100 Received: with LISTAR (v0.129a; list linux-dvb); Mon, 07 Jan 2002 19:58:32 +0100 (MET) Received: from [10.1.1.152] (helo=hell) by chambertin.convergence.de with TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168 encrypted esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16Neyd-0003Ra-00 for ; Mon, 07 Jan 2002 19:58:31 +0100 Received: from js by hell with local (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 16Ney8-0007lN-00 for ; Mon, 07 Jan 2002 19:58:00 +0100 Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 19:58:00 +0100 From: Johannes Stezenbach To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: DVB background info, linux-dvb architecture? Message-ID: <20020107185800.GA29750@convergence.de> Mail-Followup-To: Johannes Stezenbach , linux-dvb@linuxtv.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.25i X-listar-version: Listar v0.129a Sender: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Errors-to: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org X-original-sender: js@convergence.de Precedence: bulk X-list: linux-dvb On Mon, Jan 07, 2002 at 05:07:24PM +0000, Stephen Davies wrote: > Are there some recommended DVB background documents out there on the web > to help me get started with understanding it? The basis is the MPEG2 standard ISO-13818 (esp. part 1), which unfortunately is not available for free. There are some MPEG2 tutorials/introductions out on the net, however. Try google. Other relevant standard documents are available from: http://www.dvb.org/ http://www.etsi.org/ > Secondly - some reading to help understand the architecture of the > linux-dvb stuff - what the different components do and so forth? Documentation for the driver is provided with the driver sources (TeX format) and/or at http://www.linuxtv.org/developer/dvbapi.xml (PDF). Regards, Johannes -- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Mon Jan 07 19:38:43 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mhonarc@limes.convergence.de Received: (qmail 24463 invoked by uid 0); 7 Jan 2002 19:38:43 -0000 Received: from chambertin.convergence.de (212.84.236.2) by limes.convergence.de with SMTP; 7 Jan 2002 19:38:43 -0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=chambertin) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16NfTL-0006Vj-00; Mon, 07 Jan 2002 20:30:15 +0100 Received: with LISTAR (v0.129a; list linux-dvb); Mon, 07 Jan 2002 20:28:21 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail.gmx.net ([213.165.64.20]) by chambertin.convergence.de with smtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16NfRU-0005To-00 for ; Mon, 07 Jan 2002 20:28:20 +0100 Received: (qmail 1357 invoked by uid 0); 7 Jan 2002 19:28:15 -0000 Received: from pec-35-156.tnt1.f.uunet.de (HELO gmx.net) (149.225.35.156) by mail.gmx.net (mp009-rz3) with SMTP; 7 Jan 2002 19:28:15 -0000 Sender: jojo Message-ID: <3C39F4EC.FEC06224@gmx.net> Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2002 20:20:12 +0100 From: Joachim =?iso-8859-1?Q?K=F6nig?= X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.4.5 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "linux-dvb@linuxtv.org" Subject: [linux-dvb] TT DVB-C Rev 2.1 works now Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-listar-version: Listar v0.129a Sender: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Errors-to: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org X-original-sender: joachim.koenig@gmx.net Precedence: bulk X-list: linux-dvb Hi, I've now logged the I2c bus and found out that the settings for the tuner need to be changed. Here are my new settings for tuner.c: {"SPXXXX", MITEL, DVBC, 40000000UL, 870000000UL, 62500, 1, 36125000, 174000000UL, 470000000UL, 0xa1, 0x84, 0x81, 0x85}, With this settings it works. I have tested this with the driver from 03.10.2001. Next step will be to install the latest CVS driver and test it there. Then someone needs to find out how to detect the card and automaticaly select the right tuner settings (Ralf ?). Good luck to everybody and report your success mfg Joachim -- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Mon Jan 07 19:47:17 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mhonarc@limes.convergence.de Received: (qmail 29049 invoked by uid 0); 7 Jan 2002 19:47:17 -0000 Received: from chambertin.convergence.de (212.84.236.2) by limes.convergence.de with SMTP; 7 Jan 2002 19:47:17 -0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=chambertin) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16Nfbd-0006wJ-00; Mon, 07 Jan 2002 20:38:49 +0100 Received: with LISTAR (v0.129a; list linux-dvb); Mon, 07 Jan 2002 20:36:58 +0100 (MET) Received: from web13906.mail.yahoo.com ([216.136.175.69]) by chambertin.convergence.de with smtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16NfZp-0006gr-00 for ; Mon, 07 Jan 2002 20:36:57 +0100 Message-ID: <20020107193652.98300.qmail@web13906.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [196.2.20.25] by web13906.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 07 Jan 2002 11:36:52 PST Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 11:36:52 -0800 (PST) From: Alexis Iglauer Reply-To: aiglauer@iname.com Subject: [linux-dvb] DVB in South Africa To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-listar-version: Listar v0.129a Sender: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Errors-to: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org X-original-sender: aiglauer@yahoo.com Precedence: bulk X-list: linux-dvb Hi I am trying to get a TT Rev1.3 card working in South Africa (all channels scrambled using the IrDeto system). I have tried both the 0.8.2 driver (with the patch) and the latest 0.9.3 drivers - both without success. System is Debian unstable, with 2.2.16 kernel (recompiled with make-kpkg. With the 0.8.2 driver, I modified the dvb.c file to set the paramaters for an init_chan to tune to a local channel here. When I load the driver, I get a black screen saying "Convergence", but no picture. Ever so often, the ARM will crash and be reloaded (every 30s or so). Similar things happen with the 0.9 driver, but I managed to get a bit of joy with the DTV application. I can scan for channels and get DTV started. I have found one unscrambled channel, and can tune to that, but I still get ARM crashes every 30s or so. dtv_scan also incorrectly thinks the channel requires the CA module. Everything works under winblows :( What could be causing the ARM crashes? CA issues? Any way I could help with the CA support? Thanks in advance for any advice. 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From linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Mon Jan 07 20:00:40 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mhonarc@limes.convergence.de Received: (qmail 815 invoked by uid 0); 7 Jan 2002 20:00:40 -0000 Received: from chambertin.convergence.de (212.84.236.2) by limes.convergence.de with SMTP; 7 Jan 2002 20:00:40 -0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=chambertin) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16NfoY-0007Ql-00; Mon, 07 Jan 2002 20:52:10 +0100 Received: with LISTAR (v0.129a; list linux-dvb); Mon, 07 Jan 2002 20:49:40 +0100 (MET) Received: from dial-194-8-205-102.netcologne.de ([194.8.205.102] helo=rjkm.de) by chambertin.convergence.de with TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168 encrypted esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16Nfm8-0007D7-00 for ; Mon, 07 Jan 2002 20:49:40 +0100 Received: (from rjkm@localhost) by rjkm.de (8.12.0.Beta19/8.12.0.Beta19) id g07JnUTZ001949; Mon, 7 Jan 2002 20:49:30 +0100 From: Ralph Metzler Message-ID: <15417.64458.299973.865902@gargle.gargle.HOWL> Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 20:49:30 +0100 To: Joachim =?ISO-8859-1?Q?K=F6nig?= Cc: "linux-dvb@linuxtv.org" Subject: [linux-dvb] TT DVB-C Rev 2.1 works now In-Reply-To: <3C39F4EC.FEC06224@gmx.net> References: <3C39F4EC.FEC06224@gmx.net> X-Mailer: VM 6.95 under 21.4 (patch 4) "Artificial Intelligence" XEmacs Lucid Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 1.8) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-listar-version: Listar v0.129a Sender: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Errors-to: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org X-original-sender: rjkm@convergence.de Precedence: bulk X-list: linux-dvb Joachim =?iso-8859-1?Q?K=F6nig?= writes: > I've now logged the I2c bus and found out that the settings for the > tuner need to be changed. Here are my new settings for tuner.c: > {"SPXXXX", MITEL, DVBC, > 40000000UL, 870000000UL, 62500, 1, 36125000, > 174000000UL, 470000000UL, 0xa1, 0x84, 0x81, 0x85}, > > With this settings it works. I have tested this with the driver from Thanks. Good work. > 03.10.2001. Next step will be to install the latest CVS driver and test > it there. Then someone needs to find out how to detect the card and > automaticaly select the right tuner settings (Ralf ?). What subsystem device and vendor ids does your card report? My Siemens DVB-C reports Siemens as sub-vendor. So, a card with VES1820 demodulator and Technotrend id should be a TT DVB-C card. Ralph -- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Mon Jan 07 21:37:26 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mhonarc@limes.convergence.de Received: (qmail 30993 invoked by uid 0); 7 Jan 2002 21:37:26 -0000 Received: from chambertin.convergence.de (212.84.236.2) by limes.convergence.de with SMTP; 7 Jan 2002 21:37:26 -0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=chambertin) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16NhKD-0004Cg-00; Mon, 07 Jan 2002 22:28:57 +0100 Received: with LISTAR (v0.129a; list linux-dvb); Mon, 07 Jan 2002 22:25:50 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail.gmx.net ([213.165.64.20]) by chambertin.convergence.de with smtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16NhHC-0003tH-00 for ; Mon, 07 Jan 2002 22:25:50 +0100 Received: (qmail 31020 invoked by uid 0); 7 Jan 2002 21:25:18 -0000 Received: from pec-41-106.tnt4.f.uunet.de (HELO gmx.net) (149.225.41.106) by mail.gmx.net (mp008-rz3) with SMTP; 7 Jan 2002 21:25:18 -0000 Sender: jojo Message-ID: <3C3A105B.6B9C20EE@gmx.net> Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2002 22:17:15 +0100 From: Joachim =?iso-8859-1?Q?K=F6nig?= X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.4.5 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ralph Metzler CC: "linux-dvb@linuxtv.org" Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: TT DVB-C Rev 2.1 works now References: <3C39F4EC.FEC06224@gmx.net> <15417.64458.299973.865902@gargle.gargle.HOWL> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-listar-version: Listar v0.129a Sender: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Errors-to: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org X-original-sender: joachim.koenig@gmx.net Precedence: bulk X-list: linux-dvb Ralph Metzler wrote: > > Joachim =?iso-8859-1?Q?K=F6nig?= writes: > > I've now logged the I2c bus and found out that the settings for the > > tuner need to be changed. Here are my new settings for tuner.c: > > {"SPXXXX", MITEL, DVBC, > > 40000000UL, 870000000UL, 62500, 1, 36125000, > > 174000000UL, 470000000UL, 0xa1, 0x84, 0x81, 0x85}, > > > > With this settings it works. I have tested this with the driver from > > Thanks. Good work. > > > 03.10.2001. Next step will be to install the latest CVS driver and test > > it there. Then someone needs to find out how to detect the card and > > automaticaly select the right tuner settings (Ralf ?). > > What subsystem device and vendor ids does your card report? > My Siemens DVB-C reports Siemens as sub-vendor. So, a card with > VES1820 demodulator and Technotrend id should be a TT DVB-C card. lspci reports: 00:0d.0 Multimedia controller: Philips Semiconductors SAA7146 (rev 01) Subsystem: Technotrend Systemtechnik GmbH: Unknown device 7146 Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 11 Memory at d7002000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=512] In numbers only: 00:0d.0 Class 0480: 1131:7146 (rev 01) Subsystem: 13c2:0002 Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 11 Memory at d7002000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=512] I hope this helps mfg Joachim -- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Mon Jan 07 22:48:53 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mhonarc@limes.convergence.de Received: (qmail 22796 invoked by uid 0); 7 Jan 2002 22:48:53 -0000 Received: from chambertin.convergence.de (212.84.236.2) by limes.convergence.de with SMTP; 7 Jan 2002 22:48:53 -0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=chambertin) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16NiRN-0008Sj-00; Mon, 07 Jan 2002 23:40:25 +0100 Received: with LISTAR (v0.129a; list linux-dvb); Mon, 07 Jan 2002 23:36:04 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail.swelcom.fi ([194.100.33.13]) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16NiN9-0008Bv-00 for ; Mon, 07 Jan 2002 23:36:03 +0100 Received: from swclus1.swelcom.swelcom.fi ([10.42.8.33]) by mail.swelcom.fi with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.3779); Tue, 8 Jan 2002 00:36:02 +0200 Received: by swclus1.swelcom.swelcom.fi with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Tue, 8 Jan 2002 00:36:02 +0200 Message-ID: <90D2243C3D0B8B4AB20FAA77AFD974B6373EF0@swclus1.swelcom.swelcom.fi> From: Falck Kenneth To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: TT DVB-C Rev 2.1 works now Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2002 00:36:02 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Jan 2002 22:36:02.0921 (UTC) FILETIME=[AFF37D90:01C197CB] X-listar-version: Listar v0.129a Sender: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Errors-to: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org X-original-sender: kennu@swelcom.fi Precedence: bulk X-list: linux-dvb Joachim K=F6nig wrote: > lspci reports: > 00:0d.0 Multimedia controller: Philips Semiconductors SAA7146 (rev = 01) > Subsystem: Technotrend Systemtechnik GmbH: Unknown device = 7146 > Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 11 > Memory at d7002000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=3D512] >=20 > In numbers only: > 00:0d.0 Class 0480: 1131:7146 (rev 01) > Subsystem: 13c2:0002 > Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 11 > Memory at d7002000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=3D512] I wonder why I get slightly different results for my 2.1 card. (I don't really know this stuff.) The notable differences are "Unknown device = 0002" and "latency 64". Using kernel 2.4.17 and RH7.2. 00:08.0 Multimedia controller: Philips Semiconductors SAA7146 (rev 01) Subsystem: Technotrend Systemtechnik GmbH: Unknown device 0002 Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 64, IRQ 11 Memory at ea101000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=3D512] 00:08.0 Class 0480: 1131:7146 (rev 01) Subsystem: 13c2:0002 Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 64, IRQ 11 Memory at ea101000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=3D512] I'm still trying to determine whether the driver is working for me or = not. I modified the tunertype entry for SPXXXX as you advised and gave the = type=3Dxx parameter when loading tuner.o. I think it manages to load itself = because the log says this: (I added the "tuner: chip is a '%s'" line myself to identify the = driver.) Jan 7 23:55:03 lkennuxp kernel: i2c-core.o: i2c core module Jan 7 23:55:03 lkennuxp kernel: Linux video capture interface: v1.00 Jan 7 23:55:03 lkennuxp kernel: i2c-core.o: driver VES1820 DVB = demodulator registered. Jan 7 23:55:03 lkennuxp kernel: i2c-core.o: driver i2c TV tuner driver registered. Jan 7 23:55:03 lkennuxp kernel: saa7146_core.o: saa7146(1): bus:0, = rev:1, mem:0xd08cf000. Jan 7 23:55:03 lkennuxp kernel: VES1820: attaching VES1820 at 0x12 Jan 7 23:55:03 lkennuxp kernel: i2c-core.o: client [VES1820] = registered to adapter [saa7146(1)](pos. 0). Jan 7 23:55:04 lkennuxp kernel: VES1820: attached to adapter = saa7146(1) Jan 7 23:55:04 lkennuxp kernel: tuner: chip found @ 0x62 Jan 7 23:55:04 lkennuxp kernel: tuner: chip is a 'SPXXXX' Jan 7 23:55:04 lkennuxp kernel: i2c-core.o: client [SPXXXX] registered = to adapter [saa7146(1)](pos. 1). Jan 7 23:55:05 lkennuxp kernel: i2c-core.o: adapter saa7146(1) = registered as adapter 0. Jan 7 23:55:07 lkennuxp kernel: dvb0: AV7111 - firm f0240009, rtsl b0250018, vid 71010068, app 00010002 Jan 7 23:55:08 lkennuxp kernel: dvb: 1 dvb(s) found! Jan 7 23:55:20 lkennuxp kernel: need zigzag, freq=3D290000000 However, I haven't been able to get a successful tune yet. I'm using = the latest drivers from CVS. I'm doing this remotely over ssh from home so = I've got to try the X based software tomorrow at the office. PS. I wonder if there's a simple, working test program that only takes MHz/ksym/QAM as parameters and attempts to tune in? I mean something = that doesn't require those horrible .dvbrc files or anything. I have written = my own test program but I don't know if it works or not. --=20 Kenneth Falck SWelcom Oy R&D Manager Ludviginkatu 6-8=20 +358 40 5103121 00130 Helsinki, Finland -- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Tue Jan 08 01:46:20 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mhonarc@limes.convergence.de Received: (qmail 16191 invoked by uid 0); 8 Jan 2002 01:46:20 -0000 Received: from chambertin.convergence.de (212.84.236.2) by limes.convergence.de with SMTP; 8 Jan 2002 01:46:20 -0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=chambertin) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16NlD6-0008Ki-00; Tue, 08 Jan 2002 02:37:52 +0100 Received: with LISTAR (v0.129a; list linux-dvb); Tue, 08 Jan 2002 02:34:53 +0100 (MET) Received: from [202.96.44.19] (helo=smtp.263.net) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16NlAC-00086Y-00 for ; Tue, 08 Jan 2002 02:34:52 +0100 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.263.net (Postfix) with SMTP id E8D681E59C800; Tue, 8 Jan 2002 09:14:20 +0800 (CST) Message-ID: <000201c197e3$3b491460$0104020a@benben> From: "Frankta" To: Cc: Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: Original firmware Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2002 09:23:22 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="gb2312" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2462.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2462.0000 X-listar-version: Listar v0.129a Sender: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Errors-to: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org X-original-sender: frankta@263.net Precedence: bulk X-list: linux-dvb RGVhciBzaXIsDQogICBJIGFtIHZlcnkgaW50ZXJlc3RlZCBvZiB5b3VyIHdvcmsuQnV0IEkgY2Fu bm90IGdvIHRvIHRoZSBVUkwgeW91IHB1dHRlZCBvbiB0aGUgbWFpbGluZyBsaXN0IA0KDQpPbmNl IHVwb24gYSB0aW1lIEpvaG4gd3JvdGU6DQpIZWxsbyBldmVyeW9uZSwNCg0KSSd2ZSBwdXQgd2hh dCBJJ3ZlIGRvbmUgb24gaHR0cDovL3d3dy5nZW9jaXRpZXMuY29tL2JhZGZpc2g0MzIxL2luZGV4 Lmh0bWwuIA0KVGhpcyBpcyBwcm9iYWJseSBqdXN0IGEgdGVtcG9yYXJ5IGhvbWUgZm9yIGl0IHVu dGlsIEkgc29ydCBvdXQgYSBtb3JlIA0Kc2Vuc2libGUgVVJMICENCkkndmUgZ290IGl0IHdvcmtp bmcgd2l0aCBhbiBJcmRldG8gQ0FNOyBJIHdvdWxkIGJlIGludGVyZXN0ZWQgaW4gaGVhcmluZyBp ZiANCmFueW9uZSBoYXMgYW55IHBvc2l0aXZlIChvciBuZWdhdGl2ZSkgZXhwZXJpZW5jZXMgd2l0 aCBvdGhlciBDQU1TLiBBdCB0aGUgDQptb21lbnQgaXQgZG9lc24ndCBzdXBwb3J0IHJlY29yZGlu Zy4gSWYgSSBjYXJyeSBvbiB3aXRoIHRoaXMsIG15IG5leHQgDQpwcmlvcml0eSB3b3VsZCBiZSB0 byBhZGQgc3VwcG9ydCBmb3IgdGhlIENBTSAnbWVudScgc28gdGhhdCB5b3UgY2FuIA0KcmUtY29u ZmlndXJlIGl0LCBlbnRlciBQSU4gbnVtYmVycyBhbmQgc28gb24uDQoNCkpvaG4NCg0K -- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Tue Jan 08 12:20:09 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mhonarc@limes.convergence.de Received: (qmail 27658 invoked by uid 0); 8 Jan 2002 12:20:09 -0000 Received: from chambertin.convergence.de (212.84.236.2) by limes.convergence.de with SMTP; 8 Jan 2002 12:20:09 -0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=chambertin) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16Nv50-0000eF-00; Tue, 08 Jan 2002 13:10:10 +0100 Received: with LISTAR (v0.129a; list linux-dvb); Tue, 08 Jan 2002 13:04:20 +0100 (MET) Received: from lcc02.lindy.cc ([195.226.120.181]) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16NuzC-0000DE-00 for ; Tue, 08 Jan 2002 13:04:10 +0100 Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Changes to the pes2* tools to extrakt individual streams MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Stefan.Hagendorn@lindy.cc Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2002 13:01:25 +0100 Message-ID: X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on LCC_LEU_MAIL01/DELCC/LINDY(Release 5.0.8 |June 18, 2001) at 08.01.2002 13:01:27 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-listar-version: Listar v0.129a Sender: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Errors-to: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org X-original-sender: Stefan.Hagendorn@lindy.cc Precedence: bulk X-list: linux-dvb -- Unable to decode HTML file!! -- -- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Tue Jan 08 12:44:26 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mhonarc@limes.convergence.de Received: (qmail 705 invoked by uid 0); 8 Jan 2002 12:44:26 -0000 Received: from chambertin.convergence.de (212.84.236.2) by limes.convergence.de with SMTP; 8 Jan 2002 12:44:26 -0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=chambertin) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16NvSZ-0002pi-00; Tue, 08 Jan 2002 13:34:31 +0100 Received: with LISTAR (v0.129a; list linux-dvb); Tue, 08 Jan 2002 13:30:22 +0100 (MET) Received: from lcc02.lindy.cc ([195.226.120.181]) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16NvOR-0002Gb-00 for ; Tue, 08 Jan 2002 13:30:15 +0100 Subject: [linux-dvb] 2nd try sorry : Changes to the pes2* tools to extrakt individual streams To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.6a January 17, 2001 Message-ID: From: Stefan.Hagendorn@lindy.cc Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2002 13:27:31 +0100 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on LCC_LEU_MAIL01/DELCC/LINDY(Release 5.0.8 |June 18, 2001) at 08.01.2002 13:27:32 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-listar-version: Listar v0.129a Sender: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Errors-to: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org X-original-sender: Stefan.Hagendorn@lindy.cc Precedence: bulk X-list: linux-dvb Hi Convergence developers, Is it possible to add an stream ID argument to the pes2* tools to demux individual audio/video (mainly audio) streams from recordings ?? An example how this could look find here: Patch from Thomas Heiligenmann: http://www.heiligenmann.de/download/main.cc.20020101.diff I would prefer to change the argument from a decimal number which is added to the "base" id to an hexadecimal identifier .. like from "pes2aud 001.vdr 1" to "pes2aud 001.vdr 0xC1" Backround is the authoring of an dvd from vdr recordings with 2 audio tracks and or 1 Dolby Digital Track... Thanks in advamce Stefan -- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Tue Jan 08 16:08:26 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mhonarc@limes.convergence.de Received: (qmail 4227 invoked by uid 0); 8 Jan 2002 16:08:26 -0000 Received: from chambertin.convergence.de (212.84.236.2) by limes.convergence.de with SMTP; 8 Jan 2002 16:08:26 -0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=chambertin) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16NyfL-0007Fv-00; Tue, 08 Jan 2002 16:59:55 +0100 Received: with LISTAR (v0.129a; list linux-dvb); Tue, 08 Jan 2002 16:54:55 +0100 (MET) Received: from mailrelay.netcologne.de ([194.8.194.96]) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16NyaU-0006gx-00 for ; Tue, 08 Jan 2002 16:54:54 +0100 Received: from sheridan.metzler (dial-195-14-226-181.netcologne.de [195.14.226.181]) by mailrelay.netcologne.de (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g08FsEN13863; Tue, 8 Jan 2002 16:54:24 +0100 (MET) Received: (from mocm@localhost) by sheridan.metzler (8.11.3/8.11.0/SuSE Linux 8.11.0-0.4) id g08FrAk11540; Tue, 8 Jan 2002 16:53:10 +0100 From: Message-ID: <15419.5605.982473.682705@sheridan.metzler> Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2002 16:53:09 +0100 (CET) To: Stefan.Hagendorn@lindy.cc Cc: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] 2nd try sorry : Changes to the pes2* tools to extrakt individual streams In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid Reply-To: Marcus Metzler X-Face: X!$Vwl\?,AW_[zm^ej\MLxN>q;R?C_sRZ*XE4V;BGT28Ewyd\:TS')W'G#Dgay8ci$*{lEd 02(Nk0OndG\752U>lozmb_R1poDm6mgHm_4.}bdS0hh.`xGUI.X2x_50T9.?_v~.,QI*$2:Q=HV@>F IP6%l~E:T|w,X[eC;|YD(A9X'sS"r$l]g<4CjAm4|f7o0>6zGwUPLinP0.d=E+_%?4>0A9'esEZ=9h $#b[g*/q/g'GVj-hDc,+V_]1.H^N,1Bju,>5FZn"B Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 1.6) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-listar-version: Listar v0.129a Sender: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Errors-to: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org X-original-sender: mocm@convergence.de Precedence: bulk X-list: linux-dvb Stefan.Hagendorn@lindy.cc writes: > Hi Convergence developers, > Is it possible to add an stream ID argument to the pes2* tools to demux > individual audio/video (mainly audio) streams from recordings ?? > An example how this could look find here: > Patch from Thomas Heiligenmann: > http://www.heiligenmann.de/download/main.cc.20020101.diff > I would prefer to change the argument from a decimal number which is added > to the "base" id to an hexadecimal identifier .. like from "pes2aud 001.vdr > 1" to "pes2aud 001.vdr 0xC1" > Backround is the authoring of an dvd from vdr recordings with 2 audio > tracks and or 1 Dolby Digital Track... > I added to program calls to the mpegtools: extract_pes and extract_pes_payload with usage: extract_pes filename id where id is a hex number like e0 for first video or c0 for first audio. Don't use 0xe0, it will be recognized as 0. Marcus -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- Dr. Marcus Metzler mocm@netcologne.de http://www.metzlerbros.de mocm@convergence.de http://www.convergence.de Convergence Integrated Media GmbH Rosenthaler Str. 51 D-10178 Berlin --------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Tue Jan 08 16:09:27 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mhonarc@limes.convergence.de Received: (qmail 4243 invoked by uid 0); 8 Jan 2002 16:09:27 -0000 Received: from chambertin.convergence.de (212.84.236.2) by limes.convergence.de with SMTP; 8 Jan 2002 16:09:27 -0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=chambertin) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16NygN-00087q-00; Tue, 08 Jan 2002 17:00:59 +0100 Received: with LISTAR (v0.129a; list linux-dvb); Tue, 08 Jan 2002 16:58:02 +0100 (MET) Received: from mailrelay.faidor.de ([195.126.215.15]) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16NydW-0006z9-00 for ; Tue, 08 Jan 2002 16:58:02 +0100 Received: from faiopf2005.faidor.de (xmail.faidor.de [195.126.215.2]) by mailrelay.faidor.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA07855 for ; Tue, 8 Jan 2002 15:50:20 +0100 Received: by faiopf2005.faidor.de with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Tue, 8 Jan 2002 16:58:00 +0100 Received: from dshpc020.opf.debis.de ([53.140.8.82]) by faiopf2005.faidor.de with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id C2KBX3QR; Tue, 8 Jan 2002 16:57:55 +0100 From: "Ortner, Uwe" To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] HDTV & DVB / VDR (dscaler ..) Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Evolution/1.0 (Preview Release) Date: 08 Jan 2002 16:59:10 +0100 Message-Id: <1010505551.4099.1.camel@dshpc020> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-listar-version: Listar v0.129a Sender: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Errors-to: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org X-original-sender: Uwe.Ortner@faidor.de Precedence: bulk X-list: linux-dvb Hello there, I use VDR in my Linux box (SuSE 7.3) with 2 Siemens DVB-C I heard a lot about Scaling Software (dscaler etc.) in http://www.beisammen.de. Anybody out there who has some experience in this topic (especially with vdr)? Regards, Uwe PS: I neither want to run a second box nor to use WINxxx -- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Tue Jan 08 17:38:40 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mhonarc@limes.convergence.de Received: (qmail 1143 invoked by uid 0); 8 Jan 2002 17:38:40 -0000 Received: from chambertin.convergence.de (212.84.236.2) by limes.convergence.de with SMTP; 8 Jan 2002 17:38:40 -0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=chambertin) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16O04f-0005xo-00; Tue, 08 Jan 2002 18:30:09 +0100 Received: with LISTAR (v0.129a; list linux-dvb); Tue, 08 Jan 2002 18:25:46 +0100 (MET) Received: from ntvlsi2.mi.infn.it ([193.205.79.93]) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16O00P-0004we-00 for ; Tue, 08 Jan 2002 18:25:45 +0100 Received: from inwind.it (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ntvlsi2.mi.infn.it (8.11.6/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g08HUXo01160 for ; Tue, 8 Jan 2002 18:30:34 +0100 Sender: max@ntvlsi2.mi.infn.it Message-ID: <3C3B2CB9.27A74B73@inwind.it> Date: Tue, 08 Jan 2002 18:30:33 +0100 From: maxim65@inwind.it X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.16 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] nokia 9500 MM Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-listar-version: Listar v0.129a Sender: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Errors-to: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org X-original-sender: maxim65@inwind.it Precedence: bulk X-list: linux-dvb I have an MM 9500 nokia and I would like to use it with pptp/vpt for fastinternet. I have seen your www.linuxtv.org in the dvb2000 OS of my nokia 9500. Can you say me what I have to do to or where to find all that I need ? Thanks in advance Massimo -- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Tue Jan 08 18:29:39 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mhonarc@limes.convergence.de Received: (qmail 16174 invoked by uid 0); 8 Jan 2002 18:29:39 -0000 Received: from chambertin.convergence.de (212.84.236.2) by limes.convergence.de with SMTP; 8 Jan 2002 18:29:39 -0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=chambertin) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16O0s2-0000A0-00; Tue, 08 Jan 2002 19:21:10 +0100 Received: with LISTAR (v0.129a; list linux-dvb); Tue, 08 Jan 2002 19:14:15 +0100 (MET) Received: from [194.109.134.226] (helo=mail.adrenochrome.nl ident=mail) by chambertin.convergence.de with TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168 encrypted esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16O0lL-00087N-00 for ; Tue, 08 Jan 2002 19:14:15 +0100 Received: from mail.icem.de ([194.175.115.14] helo=gateway.hnv.icem.de) by mail.adrenochrome.nl with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 16O33X-00072k-00 for ; Tue, 08 Jan 2002 21:41:14 +0100 Received: from willina.icem.ptc.com (root@[158.225.3.93]) by gateway.hnv.icem.de (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id TAA29366; Tue, 8 Jan 2002 19:00:52 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: gateway.hnv.icem.de: Host root@[158.225.3.93] claimed to be willina.icem.ptc.com Received: from wald.hnv.icem.de ([158.225.25.1]) by willina.icem.ptc.com (8.12.1/8.12.1/Debian -2) with ESMTP id g08HvOVc032124; Tue, 8 Jan 2002 18:57:24 +0100 Received: from icem.de (wald.hnv.icem.de [158.225.25.1]) by wald.hnv.icem.de (SGI-8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA26877; Tue, 8 Jan 2002 19:00:09 +0100 (MET) Sender: Carsten.Koch@icem.de Message-ID: <3C3B33A8.C93584A1@icem.de> Date: Tue, 08 Jan 2002 19:00:08 +0100 From: Carsten Koch Organization: ICEM Technologies GmbH X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79C-SGI [en] (X11; U; IRIX 6.5 IP32) X-Accept-Language: de, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: maxim65@inwind.it CC: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: nokia 9500 MM References: <3C3B2CB9.27A74B73@inwind.it> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS-perl11-milter (http://amavis.org/) X-listar-version: Listar v0.129a Sender: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Errors-to: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org X-original-sender: Carsten.Koch@icem.de Precedence: bulk X-list: linux-dvb maxim65@inwind.it wrote: > > I have an MM 9500 nokia and I would like to use it with pptp/vpt for > fastinternet. I have seen your www.linuxtv.org in the dvb2000 OS of my > nokia 9500. Can you say me what I have to do to or where to find all > that I need ? The support site for dvb2000 is at http://www.dominance.net/overflow/ I do not know if pptp/vpt works with dvb2000. Carsten. -- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Tue Jan 08 18:53:43 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mhonarc@limes.convergence.de Received: (qmail 25705 invoked by uid 0); 8 Jan 2002 18:53:43 -0000 Received: from chambertin.convergence.de (212.84.236.2) by limes.convergence.de with SMTP; 8 Jan 2002 18:53:43 -0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=chambertin) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16O1FK-0001sO-00; Tue, 08 Jan 2002 19:45:14 +0100 Received: with LISTAR (v0.129a; list linux-dvb); Tue, 08 Jan 2002 19:41:32 +0100 (MET) Received: from lcc02.lindy.cc ([195.226.120.181]) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16O1Bj-0001cH-00; Tue, 08 Jan 2002 19:41:32 +0100 To: Marcus Metzler Cc: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org, linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: 2nd try sorry : Changes to the pes2* tools to extrakt individual streams MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.6a January 17, 2001 Message-ID: From: Stefan.Hagendorn@lindy.cc Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2002 19:38:46 +0100 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on LCC_LEU_MAIL01/DELCC/LINDY(Release 5.0.8 |June 18, 2001) at 08.01.2002 19:38:48, Serialize complete at 08.01.2002 19:38:48 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-listar-version: Listar v0.129a Sender: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Errors-to: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org X-original-sender: Stefan.Hagendorn@lindy.cc Precedence: bulk X-list: linux-dvb Thanks alot .. will try it and report if it is possible to create a dvd with a ac3 stream in sync Stefan Sent by: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org 08.01.2002 16:53 Please respond to Marcus Metzler To: Stefan.Hagendorn@lindy.cc cc: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] 2nd try sorry : Changes to the pes2* tools to extrakt individual streams Stefan.Hagendorn@lindy.cc writes: > Hi Convergence developers, > Is it possible to add an stream ID argument to the pes2* tools to demux > individual audio/video (mainly audio) streams from recordings ?? > An example how this could look find here: > Patch from Thomas Heiligenmann: > http://www.heiligenmann.de/download/main.cc.20020101.diff > I would prefer to change the argument from a decimal number which is added > to the "base" id to an hexadecimal identifier .. like from "pes2aud 001.vdr > 1" to "pes2aud 001.vdr 0xC1" > Backround is the authoring of an dvd from vdr recordings with 2 audio > tracks and or 1 Dolby Digital Track... > I added to program calls to the mpegtools: extract_pes and extract_pes_payload with usage: extract_pes filename id where id is a hex number like e0 for first video or c0 for first audio. Don't use 0xe0, it will be recognized as 0. Marcus -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- Dr. Marcus Metzler mocm@netcologne.de http://www.metzlerbros.de mocm@convergence.de http://www.convergence.de Convergence Integrated Media GmbH Rosenthaler Str. 51 D-10178 Berlin --------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. -- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Wed Jan 09 09:09:10 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mhonarc@limes.convergence.de Received: (qmail 13022 invoked by uid 0); 9 Jan 2002 09:09:10 -0000 Received: from chambertin.convergence.de (212.84.236.2) by limes.convergence.de with SMTP; 9 Jan 2002 09:09:10 -0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=chambertin) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16OEb5-0001co-00; Wed, 09 Jan 2002 10:00:35 +0100 Received: with LISTAR (v0.129a; list linux-dvb); Wed, 09 Jan 2002 09:56:42 +0100 (MET) Received: from tartarus.telenet-ops.be ([195.130.132.34]) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16OEXK-0000Ec-00 for ; Wed, 09 Jan 2002 09:56:42 +0100 Received: from democritus.net (D576519A.kabel.telenet.be [213.118.81.154]) by tartarus.telenet-ops.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 430D3217A22 for ; Wed, 9 Jan 2002 09:56:06 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <3C3C05A5.5060403@democritus.net> Date: Wed, 09 Jan 2002 09:56:05 +0100 From: Paul Adriaenssens User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux 2.4.2-2 i686; en-US; 0.7) Gecko/20010316 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] "Resource temporarily unavailable" with latest CVS driver Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-listar-version: Listar v0.129a Sender: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Errors-to: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org X-original-sender: paul.adriaenssens@democritus.net Precedence: bulk X-list: linux-dvb -------- Original Message -------- Subject: "Resource temporarily unavailable" with latest CVS driver Date: Tue, 08 Jan 2002 21:47:11 +0100 From: Paul Adriaenssens To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org, Ralph Metzler , Jon Folland , Karim Amrani CC: Bart De Gruyter , Herwig Mannaert References: <3C3B4BFD.1070109@democritus.net> > Now regarding the Nova card questions: > You definetely should also try a current CVS driver version. > Ralph We installed dvb-20020107.tar.bz2 and we are still experiencing the 'Resource temporarily unavailable' problem. We did some testing in order to reproduce this error. > Karim Amrani writes: > > I'm experiencing the 'Resource temporarily unavailable' problem too... > > (from time to time). > > This 'bug' appears from time to time : the software can run for days > > without problems but sometimes it fails. I tried to stop my program and > > rerun it (it then sets again the parameters (frequency, pol, PID)) but > > the error is still there (not a single byte is read from now on). > > The only way I found (I did not look for long !) to get back to > > normal is to reboot the PC... This is exactly what we experience too. From the moment on the problem occurs the driver does not seem to be able to recover from this error. Running szap or ntuxzap does not help, nor reloading the driver! We did the following additional test: Instead of our java client receiver we started a simple pftp server (cfr. www.pftp.de) to receive our multicasted data (237.4.23.23, with payload 1024 bytes, on port 4444 of interface 192.168.0.1 (dvb0_0)), using the following command: pftp 4444 -v -x -m1024 -mi 192.168.0.1 -mg 237.4.23.23 > x.log This works fine. Now, in order not to wait for 2 days until the error occurs, we obscure the LNB of the Nova card (= simulation of the very bad wether conditions). From that moment the pftp server generates the following errors: * Receiving multicasted datagrams from 192.168.200.1. ** recvfrom: Resource temporarily unavailable The fact that we receive the errors during those destructive testing is not the problem (in fact the pftp server should be able to timeout, saying there's no more incoming data). The real problem is that when we take away the cause of the problem (take away the obstacle from the LNB) the 'Resource temporarily unavailable' problem stays forever. This situation took place in real live during heavy snowfall here in Belgium at December 30. This is the log of the FrontendStatus during that evening Sun Dec 30 17:38:39 CET 2001 STATUS = 11 BER = 0 * 10^-9 SIGNAL = 154 * 10^-6 dBm SNR = 13125000 * 10^-6 dB Sun Dec 30 17:43:40 CET 2001 STATUS = 11 BER = 170 * 10^-9 SIGNAL = 152 * 10^-6 dBm SNR = 12375000 * 10^-6 dB Sun Dec 30 17:48:40 CET 2001 STATUS = 11 BER = 4110 * 10^-9 SIGNAL = 150 * 10^-6 dBm SNR = 10875000 * 10^-6 dB Sun Dec 30 17:53:40 CET 2001 STATUS = 11 BER = 76710 * 10^-9 SIGNAL = 148 * 10^-6 dBm SNR = 9375000 * 10^-6 dB Sun Dec 30 17:58:40 CET 2001 STATUS = 11 BER = 1095330 * 10^-9 SIGNAL = 146 * 10^-6 dBm SNR = 7875000 * 10^-6 dB Sun Dec 30 18:03:40 CET 2001 STATUS = 11 BER = 3456230 * 10^-9 SIGNAL = 146 * 10^-6 dBm SNR = 7125000 * 10^-6 dB Sun Dec 30 18:08:41 CET 2001 STATUS = 11 BER = 10485750 * 10^-9 SIGNAL = 144 * 10^-6 dBm SNR = 5750000 * 10^-6 dB At that time our driver and machine hanged up (with siemens_dvb-0.9.3), the machine has 256 MB RAM and a Pentium 600MHz. In those cases we even can't reboot the receiver remotely which makes him unusable! How can we further investigate this problem. Don't hesitate to ask additional information. > > > }-----Original Message----- > > >From: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org > > >[mailto:linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org]On Behalf Of Paul Adriaenssens > > >Sent: 04 January 2002 12:47 > > >To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org > > >Subject: [linux-dvb] Resource temporarily unavailable > > > > > > > > >We are using a Hauppauge WinTV-NOVA satellite card (model 541) to test > > >the reception of multicast data which is sent by our own IP-gateway in > > >an endless loop. > > > > > >In order to receive and decode the data we use a java program which > > >opens a MulticastSocket on the correct port of the dvb0_0 interface and > > >receives the DatagramPackets from it. > > > > > >This process runs continuously to test the stability of the driver and > > >our own FEC decoding software. It can run without any problem for > > >several hours, even days, receiving all transmitted bytes, and then > > >suddenly we get several of the following errors: > > > > > >java.net.SocketException: Resource temporarily unavailable > > >at java.net.PlainDatagramSocketImpl.receive(Native Method) > > >at java.net.DatagramSocket.receive(DatagramSocket.java:672) > > > > > >We are using siemens_dvb-0.9.3 and Linux 2.4.9-13. -- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Wed Jan 09 11:26:53 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mhonarc@limes.convergence.de Received: (qmail 24703 invoked by uid 0); 9 Jan 2002 11:26:52 -0000 Received: from chambertin.convergence.de (212.84.236.2) by limes.convergence.de with SMTP; 9 Jan 2002 11:26:52 -0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=chambertin) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16OGiV-0001NU-00; Wed, 09 Jan 2002 12:16:23 +0100 Received: with LISTAR (v0.129a; list linux-dvb); Wed, 09 Jan 2002 12:14:03 +0100 (MET) Received: from bender.toppoint.de ([195.244.243.1] helo=mail.toppoint.de) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16O4nT-0005my-00 for ; Tue, 08 Jan 2002 23:32:43 +0100 Received: from zocki.toppoint.de (uucp@localhost) by mail.toppoint.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with bsmtp id XAA05736 for linux-dvb@linuxtv.org; Tue, 8 Jan 2002 23:32:42 +0100 (MET) Received: by zocki.toppoint.de (CrossPoint/OpenXP v3.40RC3@0402011628 R/C6515); 08 Jan 2002 23:31:22 +0200 Date: 08 Jan 2002 23:31:00 +0200 From: Usenet-372114@zocki.toppoint.de (Rainer Zocholl) To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Message-ID: <8GSMn3SLlUB@zocki.toppoint.de> In-Reply-To: <3C3B2CB9.27A74B73@inwind.it> Subject: [linux-dvb] devfs_register(video0): could not append to parent, err: -17 X-Mailer: CrossPoint/OpenXP v3.40RC3@0402011628 R/C6515 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Organization: http://www.toppoint.de X-no-archive: yes X-Approved-By: dirk@convergence.de X-listar-version: Listar v0.129a Sender: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Errors-to: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org X-original-sender: dirk@convergence.de Precedence: bulk X-list: linux-dvb Hello Since(?) upgrtad to kernel 2.4.17 i get sometimes: Jan 8 11:30:02 msi kernel: dvb0: AV7111 - firm f0240009, rtsl b0250018, vid 71010068, app 00010002 Jan 8 11:30:02 msi kernel: devfs: devfs_register(video0): could not append to parent, err: -17 Jan 8 11:30:04 msi kernel: dvb1: AV7111 - firm f0240009, rtsl b0250018, vid 71010068, app 00010002 Jan 8 11:30:04 msi kernel: devfs: devfs_register(video0): could not append to parent, err: -17 Jan 8 11:30:05 msi kernel: dvb: 2 dvb(s) found! Jan 8 11:30:06 msi vdr[522]: VDR version 0.99 started Jan 8 11:30:06 msi vdr[522]: loading /video/setup.conf Jan 8 11:30:06 msi vdr[522]: loading /video/channels.conf Jan 8 11:30:07 msi vdr[522]: loading /video/timers.conf etc. (VDR laoding) but it ends in a black screen. (I don't know if that message and the problem really belongs together, but something seem to be wrong..) I see the NTV lightning, but after VDR starts, the screen becomes black and stays black. But the OSD of VDR works and EPG is shown. Rainer---<=====> Vertraulich // // <=====>--------------ocholl, Kiel, Germany ------------ -- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Wed Jan 09 11:26:54 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mhonarc@limes.convergence.de Received: (qmail 24709 invoked by uid 0); 9 Jan 2002 11:26:54 -0000 Received: from chambertin.convergence.de (212.84.236.2) by limes.convergence.de with SMTP; 9 Jan 2002 11:26:54 -0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=chambertin) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16OGiV-0001N6-00; Wed, 09 Jan 2002 12:16:23 +0100 Received: with LISTAR (v0.129a; list linux-dvb); Wed, 09 Jan 2002 12:14:15 +0100 (MET) Received: from pc1-camb6-0-cust238.cam.cable.ntl.com ([62.253.135.238] helo=bob.daviesfam.org) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16O629-0000tN-00 for ; Wed, 09 Jan 2002 00:51:57 +0100 Received: by bob.daviesfam.org (Postfix, from userid 501) id 01E1C5A229; Tue, 8 Jan 2002 23:51:56 +0000 (GMT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bob.daviesfam.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECE1042A69 for ; Tue, 8 Jan 2002 23:51:56 +0000 (GMT) Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2002 23:51:56 +0000 (GMT) From: Stephen Davies To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: Hauppauge Nova-T card, newbie worried about reception In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Approved-By: dirk@convergence.de X-listar-version: Listar v0.129a Sender: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Errors-to: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org X-original-sender: dirk@convergence.de Precedence: bulk X-list: linux-dvb On Mon, 7 Jan 2002, Stephen Davies wrote: > I currently use a Linux PC with two Hauppauge WinTV cards as a PVR system > in my living room. > > I'm highly tempted to add a Nova-T card to my setup. Well - I ordered it and dabs say its despatched. Wish me luck when it arrives... Does there exist anywhere any step by step "dvb-t from scratch" guide or such? If there does, it will help me; if there isn't I will use my install experience to write one. Steve -- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Wed Jan 09 11:26:54 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mhonarc@limes.convergence.de Received: (qmail 24713 invoked by uid 0); 9 Jan 2002 11:26:54 -0000 Received: from chambertin.convergence.de (212.84.236.2) by limes.convergence.de with SMTP; 9 Jan 2002 11:26:54 -0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=chambertin) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16OGiV-0001NV-00; Wed, 09 Jan 2002 12:16:23 +0100 Received: with LISTAR (v0.129a; list linux-dvb); Wed, 09 Jan 2002 12:13:48 +0100 (MET) Received: from eos.telenet-ops.be ([195.130.132.40]) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16O39r-0008Eg-00 for ; Tue, 08 Jan 2002 21:47:43 +0100 Received: from cast4all.com (D576519A.kabel.telenet.be [213.118.81.154]) by eos.telenet-ops.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id F19B12048C; Tue, 8 Jan 2002 21:47:10 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <3C3B5ACF.4080109@cast4all.com> Date: Tue, 08 Jan 2002 21:47:11 +0100 From: Paul Adriaenssens User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux 2.4.2-2 i686; en-US; 0.7) Gecko/20010316 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org, Ralph Metzler , Jon Folland , Karim Amrani Cc: Bart De Gruyter , Herwig Mannaert Subject: [linux-dvb] "Resource temporarily unavailable" with latest CVS driver References: <3C3B4BFD.1070109@democritus.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Approved-By: dirk@convergence.de X-listar-version: Listar v0.129a Sender: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Errors-to: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org X-original-sender: dirk@convergence.de Precedence: bulk X-list: linux-dvb > Now regarding the Nova card questions: > You definetely should also try a current CVS driver version. > Ralph We installed dvb-20020107.tar.bz2 and we are still experiencing the 'Resource temporarily unavailable' problem. We did some testing in order to reproduce this error. > Karim Amrani writes: > > I'm experiencing the 'Resource temporarily unavailable' problem too... > > (from time to time). > > This 'bug' appears from time to time : the software can run for days > > without problems but sometimes it fails. I tried to stop my program and > > rerun it (it then sets again the parameters (frequency, pol, PID)) but > > the error is still there (not a single byte is read from now on). > > The only way I found (I did not look for long !) to get back to > > normal is to reboot the PC... This is exactly what we experience too. From the moment on the problem occurs the driver does not seem to be able to recover from this error. Running szap or ntuxzap does not help, nor reloading the driver! We did the following additional test: Instead of our java client receiver we started a simple pftp server (cfr. www.pftp.de) to receive our multicasted data (237.4.23.23, with payload 1024 bytes, on port 4444 of interface 192.168.0.1 (dvb0_0)), using the following command: pftp 4444 -v -x -m1024 -mi 192.168.0.1 -mg 237.4.23.23 > x.log This works fine. Now, in order not to wait for 2 days until the error occurs, we obscure the LNB of the Nova card (= simulation of the very bad wether conditions). From that moment the pftp server generates the following errors: * Receiving multicasted datagrams from 192.168.200.1. ** recvfrom: Resource temporarily unavailable The fact that we receive the errors during those destructive testing is not the problem (in fact the pftp server should be able to timeout, saying there's no more incoming data). The real problem is that when we take away the cause of the problem (take away the obstacle from the LNB) the 'Resource temporarily unavailable' problem stays forever. This situation took place in real live during heavy snowfall here in Belgium at December 30. This is the log of the FrontendStatus during that evening Sun Dec 30 17:38:39 CET 2001 STATUS = 11 BER = 0 * 10^-9 SIGNAL = 154 * 10^-6 dBm SNR = 13125000 * 10^-6 dB Sun Dec 30 17:43:40 CET 2001 STATUS = 11 BER = 170 * 10^-9 SIGNAL = 152 * 10^-6 dBm SNR = 12375000 * 10^-6 dB Sun Dec 30 17:48:40 CET 2001 STATUS = 11 BER = 4110 * 10^-9 SIGNAL = 150 * 10^-6 dBm SNR = 10875000 * 10^-6 dB Sun Dec 30 17:53:40 CET 2001 STATUS = 11 BER = 76710 * 10^-9 SIGNAL = 148 * 10^-6 dBm SNR = 9375000 * 10^-6 dB Sun Dec 30 17:58:40 CET 2001 STATUS = 11 BER = 1095330 * 10^-9 SIGNAL = 146 * 10^-6 dBm SNR = 7875000 * 10^-6 dB Sun Dec 30 18:03:40 CET 2001 STATUS = 11 BER = 3456230 * 10^-9 SIGNAL = 146 * 10^-6 dBm SNR = 7125000 * 10^-6 dB Sun Dec 30 18:08:41 CET 2001 STATUS = 11 BER = 10485750 * 10^-9 SIGNAL = 144 * 10^-6 dBm SNR = 5750000 * 10^-6 dB At that time our driver and machine hanged up (with siemens_dvb-0.9.3), the machine has 256 MB RAM and a Pentium 600MHz. In those cases we even can't reboot the receiver remotely which makes him unusable! How can we further investigate this problem. Don't hesitate to ask additional information. > > > }-----Original Message----- > > >From: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org > > >[mailto:linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org]On Behalf Of Paul Adriaenssens > > >Sent: 04 January 2002 12:47 > > >To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org > > >Subject: [linux-dvb] Resource temporarily unavailable > > > > > > > > >We are using a Hauppauge WinTV-NOVA satellite card (model 541) to test > > >the reception of multicast data which is sent by our own IP-gateway in > > >an endless loop. > > > > > >In order to receive and decode the data we use a java program which > > >opens a MulticastSocket on the correct port of the dvb0_0 interface and > > >receives the DatagramPackets from it. > > > > > >This process runs continuously to test the stability of the driver and > > >our own FEC decoding software. It can run without any problem for > > >several hours, even days, receiving all transmitted bytes, and then > > >suddenly we get several of the following errors: > > > > > >java.net.SocketException: Resource temporarily unavailable > > >at java.net.PlainDatagramSocketImpl.receive(Native Method) > > >at java.net.DatagramSocket.receive(DatagramSocket.java:672) > > > > > >We are using siemens_dvb-0.9.3 and Linux 2.4.9-13. -- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Wed Jan 09 14:12:49 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mhonarc@limes.convergence.de Received: (qmail 13987 invoked by uid 0); 9 Jan 2002 14:12:49 -0000 Received: from chambertin.convergence.de (212.84.236.2) by limes.convergence.de with SMTP; 9 Jan 2002 14:12:49 -0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=chambertin) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16OJJQ-0001Tb-00; Wed, 09 Jan 2002 15:02:40 +0100 Received: with LISTAR (v0.129a; list linux-dvb); Wed, 09 Jan 2002 14:57:08 +0100 (MET) Received: from facade.firsthop.fi ([195.163.185.50] helo=factory.firsthop.fi) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16OJE4-0000Lb-00 for ; Wed, 09 Jan 2002 14:57:08 +0100 Received: (from smile@localhost) by factory.firsthop.fi (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA24372 for linux-dvb@linuxtv.org; Wed, 9 Jan 2002 15:56:35 +0200 Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2002 15:56:35 +0200 From: Lauri Pesonen To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: DVB background info, linux-dvb architecture? Message-ID: <20020109155635.H21861@firsthop.com> Reply-To: lauri.pesonen@firsthop.com Mail-Followup-To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org References: <20020107185800.GA29750@convergence.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20020107185800.GA29750@convergence.de>; from js@convergence.de on Mon, Jan 07, 2002 at 07:58:00PM +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by factory.firsthop.fi id PAA24372 X-listar-version: Listar v0.129a Sender: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Errors-to: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org X-original-sender: lauri.pesonen@firsthop.com Precedence: bulk X-list: linux-dvb On Mon, Jan 07, 2002 at 07:58:00PM +0100, Johannes Stezenbach wrote: > Other relevant standard documents are available from: > http://www.dvb.org/ > http://www.etsi.org/ >=20 Just a clarification: DVB.org seeme to be more a marketing site than a tech site. The standards= =20 pages provide ETSI document names and numbers, but no links to the actual= =20 documents. For the documents you have to visit etsi.org. Etsi.org on the other hand offers "free downloads on an individual basis"= .=20 In essence you can download docs ;) When searching for docs, check the=20 "Standard Type and Doc N=B0" check box and search for the ETS standard=20 number you found from the dvb.org site. That produced the best results fo= r=20 me at least. > > Secondly - some reading to help understand the architecture of the > > linux-dvb stuff - what the different components do and so forth? >=20 > Documentation for the driver is provided with the driver sources > (TeX format) and/or at http://www.linuxtv.org/developer/dvbapi.xml > (PDF). Correct me if I'm wrong, but the PDF file seems to be outdated when I=20 compare the API doc to the actual implementation...? -- Lauri -- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Wed Jan 09 17:08:21 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mhonarc@limes.convergence.de Received: (qmail 7857 invoked by uid 0); 9 Jan 2002 17:08:21 -0000 Received: from chambertin.convergence.de (212.84.236.2) by limes.convergence.de with SMTP; 9 Jan 2002 17:08:21 -0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=chambertin) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16OM4o-0002ez-00; Wed, 09 Jan 2002 17:59:46 +0100 Received: with LISTAR (v0.129a; list linux-dvb); Wed, 09 Jan 2002 17:55:44 +0100 (MET) Received: from fghaml03.hh.de.future-gate.com ([195.222.213.28] ident=root) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16OM0t-0002IQ-00 for ; Wed, 09 Jan 2002 17:55:43 +0100 Received: from fghamn08.hh.de.future-gate.com (fghamn08.hh.de.future-gate.com [195.222.213.30]) by fghaml03.hh.de.future-gate.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g09GtWq29312 for ; Wed, 9 Jan 2002 17:55:32 +0100 Received: from Future-Gate-MTA by fghamn08.hh.de.future-gate.com with Novell_GroupWise; Wed, 09 Jan 2002 17:55:33 +0100 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.0.1 Date: Wed, 09 Jan 2002 17:55:25 +0100 From: "Ronny Bremer" To: Subject: [linux-dvb] Hauppauge DVB-S works with video but no sound Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-listar-version: Listar v0.129a Sender: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Errors-to: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org X-original-sender: rbremer@future-gate.com Precedence: bulk X-list: linux-dvb I did download the latest snapshot of the DVB-s drivers (I also tried the 0.9 package). They installed just fine and I was able to get video up and running with xawtv. I can also switch channels with tuxzapp, no problem. However, I don't get any sound from the card. It is a Hauppauge DVB-S (apparently layout 2.1 b/c there is no loop-back connector). I hooked it up to my Soundblaster Live thru the internal connector as Line In. That worked fine under Windows, but it does not under Linux. The only thing I relalized while looking at linuxdvb.tv, in their board layout for 2.1 they mention the Texas Instruments AV7110, but my syslog shows AV7111. Is there anything I could try to figure out whats wrong? Thanks in advance. Ronny -- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Wed Jan 09 23:40:09 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mhonarc@limes.convergence.de Received: (qmail 5223 invoked by uid 0); 9 Jan 2002 23:40:08 -0000 Received: from chambertin.convergence.de (212.84.236.2) by limes.convergence.de with SMTP; 9 Jan 2002 23:40:08 -0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=chambertin) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16OSBy-0008HT-00; Thu, 10 Jan 2002 00:31:34 +0100 Received: with LISTAR (v0.129a; list linux-dvb); Thu, 10 Jan 2002 00:27:17 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail.gmx.net ([213.165.64.20]) by chambertin.convergence.de with smtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16OS7p-0007CW-00 for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2002 00:27:17 +0100 Received: (qmail 17432 invoked by uid 0); 9 Jan 2002 23:26:55 -0000 Received: from p3e9e173d.dip.t-dialin.net (HELO athlet) (62.158.23.61) by mail.gmx.net (mp001-rz3) with SMTP; 9 Jan 2002 23:26:55 -0000 Message-ID: <004b01c19965$21d5f060$fe78a8c0@athlet> From: "Gunnar Roth" To: References: Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: Hauppauge DVB-S works with video but no sound Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 00:26:57 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 X-listar-version: Listar v0.129a Sender: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Errors-to: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org X-original-sender: gunnar.roth@gmx.de Precedence: bulk X-list: linux-dvb > It is a Hauppauge DVB-S (apparently layout 2.1 b/c there is no > loop-back connector). I hooked it up to my Soundblaster Live thru the > internal connector as Line In. That worked fine under Windows, but it > does not under Linux. Did you set you re volume for the line in? could be muted. use a mixer programm to unmute. Greetings Gunnar -- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Thu Jan 10 02:18:11 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mhonarc@limes.convergence.de Received: (qmail 25771 invoked by uid 0); 10 Jan 2002 02:18:11 -0000 Received: from chambertin.convergence.de (212.84.236.2) by limes.convergence.de with SMTP; 10 Jan 2002 02:18:11 -0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=chambertin) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16OUew-00070S-00; Thu, 10 Jan 2002 03:09:38 +0100 Received: with LISTAR (v0.129a; list linux-dvb); Thu, 10 Jan 2002 03:06:30 +0100 (MET) Received: from [202.96.44.20] (helo=smtp.263.net) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16OUbt-0006m5-00 for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2002 03:06:30 +0100 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.263.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 938DD1E08050B for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2002 10:05:54 +0800 (CST) Message-ID: <000501c1997b$fb6f5850$0104020a@benben> From: "Frankta" To: Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: Cable version of Nova/Budget Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 10:10:29 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="gb2312" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2462.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2462.0000 X-listar-version: Listar v0.129a Sender: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Errors-to: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org X-original-sender: frankta@263.net Precedence: bulk X-list: linux-dvb SGksDQogIEludGVyZXN0aW5nIGtpbmQgb2YgY2FyZC5EbyB5b3Uga25vdyB3aGVyZSBjYW4gb25l IGJ1eSBpdD8NClRoYW5rcy4NCg0KPkplbnMgUm9zZW5ib29tIHdyaXRlczoNCiA+PiBIZWxsbyBh bGwsDQogPj4gDQogPj4gaXMgdGhlcmUgYSBjYWJsZSBUViB2ZXJzaW9uIG9mIHRoZSBOb3ZhIGFr YS4gQnVkZ2V0IGNhcmRzICh3aXRob3V0IE1QRUcNCiA+PiBkZWNvZGVyKT8NCiA+PiBIb3cgbWFu eSBkaWdpdGFsIHByb2dyYW1tZXMgY2FuIHlvdSByZWNlaXZlIGluIHlvdXIgbG9jYWwgY2FibGUg bmV0d29yaz8NCiA+PiANCg0KPlllcywgdGhlcmUgaXMgYSBEVkItQyB2ZXJzaW9uIG9mIHRoZSBO b3ZhL0J1ZGdldCBjYXJkLiANCj5CdXQgY29uc2lkZXJpbmcgdGhlIHJlY2VudCBkaXNjdXNzaW9u IGFib3V0IERWQi1DIGNhcmRzIEkgaGF2ZSB0byB3YXJuDQo+eW91IHRoYXQgSSBhbHNvIG5ldmVy IHVzZWQgYSBEVkItQyBOb3ZhIGNhcmQgYW5kIHRoYXQgSSBkbyBub3Qga25vdyBpZiBpdA0KPndv cmtzIHdpdGggdGhlIGN1cnJlbnQgZHJpdmVycy4gDQoNCg0K -- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Thu Jan 10 08:37:52 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mhonarc@limes.convergence.de Received: (qmail 18906 invoked by uid 0); 10 Jan 2002 08:37:52 -0000 Received: from chambertin.convergence.de (212.84.236.2) by limes.convergence.de with SMTP; 10 Jan 2002 08:37:52 -0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=chambertin) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16OaaN-0007kt-00; Thu, 10 Jan 2002 09:29:19 +0100 Received: with LISTAR (v0.129a; list linux-dvb); Thu, 10 Jan 2002 09:24:20 +0100 (MET) Received: from 1cust-54.au1.mg.de.alter.net ([149.228.5.54] helo=server2.rogal2) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16OaVY-0007So-00 for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2002 09:24:20 +0100 Received: by ThisAddressDoesNotExist with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Thu, 10 Jan 2002 09:33:17 +0100 Message-ID: <1524C542FEF9D411B6E50050DA38D35EDD33@ThisAddressDoesNotExist> From: Mirko Morschheuser To: "'linux-dvb@linuxtv.org'" Subject: [linux-dvb] AW: HDTV & DVB / VDR (dscaler ..) Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 09:33:17 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-listar-version: Listar v0.129a Sender: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Errors-to: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org X-original-sender: mirko@rogal-ingenieurgesellschaft.de Precedence: bulk X-list: linux-dvb Hi all, well, you're looking for the same thing than me... :-) I also user Suse 7.3 with 2 DVB-S. I tried all kind of other windows = based Software and even my girlfriend says i should throw away the M$ stuff = and get "her" linux/VDR back! I think implemetimg some kind of software deinterlacing and scaling =E1 = la Dscaler would be the killer feature for VDR. As the Dscaler Algorithms = are open source there is no need to reinvent the wheel :-) But as i am not = a programmer i have no idea how difficult it is to adopt/reprogram the = windows code to linux. there was one interesting thread on the list regarding a "modular" VDR. = A modular VDR with a software interface for some kind of pug-ins would be great. standard would be receiving/decoding of the dvb stream with the = DVB card. optional would be receiving with the DVB card and then sending = the data to the deinterlacing or scaling plug-in of your choice. In this case Klaus could concentrate on the main VDR and others could = take care of plug-ins of their interest. Unfortunatly i only have the = interest, not the knowledge...:-( cu Mirko "Psychonaut" Morschheuser -----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht----- Von: Ortner, Uwe [mailto:Uwe.Ortner@faidor.de] Gesendet: Dienstag, 8. Januar 2002 16:59 An: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Betreff: [linux-dvb] HDTV & DVB / VDR (dscaler ..) Hello there, I use VDR in my Linux box (SuSE 7.3) with 2 Siemens DVB-C I heard a lot about Scaling Software (dscaler etc.) in http://www.beisammen.de. Anybody out there who has some experience in this topic (especially with vdr)? Regards, Uwe PS: I neither want to run a second box nor to use WINxxx=20 --=20 Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. -- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From vdr-bounce@linuxtv.org Thu Jan 10 11:57:33 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mhonarc@limes.convergence.de Received: (qmail 18183 invoked by uid 0); 10 Jan 2002 11:57:33 -0000 Received: from chambertin.convergence.de (212.84.236.2) by limes.convergence.de with SMTP; 10 Jan 2002 11:57:33 -0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=chambertin) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16OdhZ-0002W3-00; Thu, 10 Jan 2002 12:48:57 +0100 Received: with LISTAR (v0.129a; list vdr); Thu, 10 Jan 2002 12:48:43 +0100 (MET) Received: from bird2.de.uu.net ([193.101.111.28]) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16OSXb-0000KL-00; Thu, 10 Jan 2002 00:53:55 +0100 Received: from there (pec-61-234.tnt1.me.uunet.de [149.225.61.234]) by bird2.de.uu.net (5.5.5/5.5.5) with SMTP id AAA06181; Thu, 10 Jan 2002 00:53:50 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <200201092353.AAA06181@bird2.de.uu.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Oliver Lorei To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [vdr] Siemens DVB-C and Scart out please Help Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 01:59:56 +0100 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.1] Cc: vdr@linuxtv.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Approved-By: dirk@convergence.de X-listar-version: Listar v0.129a Sender: vdr-bounce@linuxtv.org Errors-to: vdr-bounce@linuxtv.org X-original-sender: dirk@convergence.de Precedence: bulk Reply-to: vdr@linuxtv.org X-list: vdr Hello I use two Siemens DVB -C with VDR 0.99pre1 (0.98) and bevor the frontend has own module (dirver dvb-2001-10.16) all works very good . Since this is happens to the driver the Scart port will be disabeld as soon VDR start's ( bevor it work's or without VDR ) use the normal composite cinch Cabel from the DVB Card I get a picture on the tv and I can use VDR all normal . Change to older dirver than dvb-2001.10.16 (without frontend as module) from the archive will be work with Scart. now my Questions I install the driver normal as always ,compile it with make in /DVB/driver is there anything additional I most do with the new driver to use VDR with Scart output Is there one who now why happens this and can give me hints how I can remedy it or where I most look to do this How will the output be selected from the driver and the aplication resp. what will be changed what can I do find out why this is so ? or what do I am wrong ? please Help me mfg Oliver Lorei From linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Thu Jan 10 12:02:27 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mhonarc@limes.convergence.de Received: (qmail 22463 invoked by uid 0); 10 Jan 2002 12:02:27 -0000 Received: from chambertin.convergence.de (212.84.236.2) by limes.convergence.de with SMTP; 10 Jan 2002 12:02:27 -0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=chambertin) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16OdmK-0002u7-00; Thu, 10 Jan 2002 12:53:52 +0100 Received: with LISTAR (v0.129a; list linux-dvb); Thu, 10 Jan 2002 12:48:58 +0100 (MET) Received: from bird2.de.uu.net ([193.101.111.28]) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16OSXb-0000KL-00; Thu, 10 Jan 2002 00:53:55 +0100 Received: from there (pec-61-234.tnt1.me.uunet.de [149.225.61.234]) by bird2.de.uu.net (5.5.5/5.5.5) with SMTP id AAA06181; Thu, 10 Jan 2002 00:53:50 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <200201092353.AAA06181@bird2.de.uu.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Oliver Lorei To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Siemens DVB-C and Scart out please Help Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 01:59:56 +0100 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.1] Cc: vdr@linuxtv.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Approved-By: dirk@convergence.de X-listar-version: Listar v0.129a Sender: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Errors-to: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org X-original-sender: dirk@convergence.de Precedence: bulk X-list: linux-dvb Hello I use two Siemens DVB -C with VDR 0.99pre1 (0.98) and bevor the frontend has own module (dirver dvb-2001-10.16) all works very good . Since this is happens to the driver the Scart port will be disabeld as soon VDR start's ( bevor it work's or without VDR ) use the normal composite cinch Cabel from the DVB Card I get a picture on the tv and I can use VDR all normal . Change to older dirver than dvb-2001.10.16 (without frontend as module) from the archive will be work with Scart. now my Questions I install the driver normal as always ,compile it with make in /DVB/driver is there anything additional I most do with the new driver to use VDR with Scart output Is there one who now why happens this and can give me hints how I can remedy it or where I most look to do this How will the output be selected from the driver and the aplication resp. what will be changed what can I do find out why this is so ? or what do I am wrong ? please Help me mfg Oliver Lorei -- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Thu Jan 10 12:34:27 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mhonarc@limes.convergence.de Received: (qmail 32299 invoked by uid 0); 10 Jan 2002 12:34:26 -0000 Received: from chambertin.convergence.de (212.84.236.2) by limes.convergence.de with SMTP; 10 Jan 2002 12:34:26 -0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=chambertin) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16OeHJ-0004zg-00; Thu, 10 Jan 2002 13:25:53 +0100 Received: with LISTAR (v0.129a; list linux-dvb); Thu, 10 Jan 2002 13:22:23 +0100 (MET) Received: from pd9e41f32.dip.t-dialin.net ([217.228.31.50] helo=rechenknecht.loetzke.de) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16Oe9o-0004WO-00 for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2002 13:18:08 +0100 Received: from rechenmonster (rechenmonster [10.64.1.1]) by rechenknecht.loetzke.de (Postfix) with SMTP id E0424F800 for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2002 13:18:03 +0100 (CET) From: "=?iso-8859-1?q?Matthias_L=F6tzke?=" To: "linux-dvb@linuxtv.org" Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 13:18:03 +0100 Reply-To: "=?iso-8859-1?q?Matthias_L=F6tzke?=" Priority: Normal X-Schwachsinn: Hier! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [linux-dvb] Pins for RGB output on DVB-s rev 2.1 cards Message-Id: <20020110121803.E0424F800@rechenknecht.loetzke.de> X-Approved-By: dirk@convergence.de X-listar-version: Listar v0.129a Sender: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Errors-to: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org X-original-sender: dirk@convergence.de Precedence: bulk X-list: linux-dvb Hello! Does anybody have definite information about whether it is possible to get RGB or S-Video signals from the Hauppauge DVB-S rev 2.1 cards? IMHO it must be possible because the DSP provides those signals on the RC_OUT GY_OUT and B_OUT pins, if I read its documentation correctly. But I do not know the postion of those pins yet. Does anybody have further information about that? Otherwise I will try to locate those pins by comparing the layouts of a rev 1.3 to the rev 2.1 cards. Matthias. -- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Thu Jan 10 12:42:38 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mhonarc@limes.convergence.de Received: (qmail 32693 invoked by uid 0); 10 Jan 2002 12:42:38 -0000 Received: from chambertin.convergence.de (212.84.236.2) by limes.convergence.de with SMTP; 10 Jan 2002 12:42:38 -0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=chambertin) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16OePF-0006HF-00; Thu, 10 Jan 2002 13:34:05 +0100 Received: with LISTAR (v0.129a; list linux-dvb); Thu, 10 Jan 2002 13:30:17 +0100 (MET) Received: from mailrelay.faidor.de ([195.126.215.15]) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16OeLZ-0005zN-00 for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2002 13:30:17 +0100 Received: from faiopf2005.faidor.de (xmail.faidor.de [195.126.215.2]) by mailrelay.faidor.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA23275; Thu, 10 Jan 2002 12:22:32 +0100 Received: by faiopf2005.faidor.de with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Thu, 10 Jan 2002 13:30:13 +0100 Received: from dshpc020.opf.debis.de ([53.140.8.82]) by faiopf2005.faidor.de with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id C2KBYWJW; Thu, 10 Jan 2002 13:30:09 +0100 From: "Ortner, Uwe" To: "'linux-dvb@linuxtv.org'" Cc: "'linux-dvb@linuxtv.org'" Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: AW: HDTV & DVB / VDR (dscaler ..) In-Reply-To: <1524C542FEF9D411B6E50050DA38D35EDD33@ThisAddressDoesNotExist> References: <1524C542FEF9D411B6E50050DA38D35EDD33@ThisAddressDoesNotExist> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Evolution/1.0 (Preview Release) Date: 10 Jan 2002 13:31:22 +0100 Message-Id: <1010665882.6014.13.camel@dshpc020> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-listar-version: Listar v0.129a Sender: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Errors-to: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org X-original-sender: Uwe.Ortner@faidor.de Precedence: bulk X-list: linux-dvb I made the same experience: Once you get started with DVB you are very happy to have all features VDR provides: Playing/Recording TV Channels, Pay-TV Decoding, DVD Encryption ... Than you do one more step IR Control (Lirc) LCD display and you want more ... analog channels, MP3, Channel programming via Web(-Server) wakeonlan, Videotext, progressive scan/deinterlacing, CD recording, = AC3, WWW Services (EMail etc.) I have a complete equipment (Yamaha DSP-A1, Surround-Set, Davis Cinema One, Sony DVD-735, DBox1, PC/Soundcard/2xDVB-C/Matrox Marvel 400TV) but i really loose setting up a PC/linux stuff in a usable way (should I really setup a second (Windows-) box for scaling ?) Meanwhile a have some more IR-receivers, soundcards, VGA Adapters etc. due this trial and error procedure ;-( And there was a time I also tried out W2K=20 A software/hardware compatibility list / recommendation would be a = great idea like CardDriver: Siemens DVB http:/xxxxxxxxxx Playing/Recording: vdr (V.xyz) runs best with Siemens DVB (Firmware x.yz)=20 DVD: Pioneer xxx you will need xyz from http:/xxxxxxx Sound: Yamaha Digital XP install latest driver form http:/xxxxxxxxx Hint when you upgrade your kernel: xxxxxxxx Note for installing with alsa: xxxxxxxx start vdr with this command line: xxxxxxxx etc. You have to visit a number of sites, read a lot of documentation, buy a lot of hardware just to see that your configuration is not working or your knowhow is more than incomplete. For sure I'm not the only one who has spent a lot of time in this DVB topic and who is bored about his system not running 'state of the art'=20 Is anybody out there interested on a Web-PaGE (eg. with "FAQOMATIC") to put all these experiences together / build this "state of the art" = HTPC? Regards=20 Uwe =09 Am Don, 2002-01-10 um 09.33 schrieb Mirko Morschheuser: > Hi all, >=20 > well, you're looking for the same thing than me... :-) > I also user Suse 7.3 with 2 DVB-S. I tried all kind of other windows = based > Software and even my girlfriend says i should throw away the M$ stuff = and > get "her" linux/VDR back! >=20 > I think implemetimg some kind of software deinterlacing and scaling = =E1 la > Dscaler would be the killer feature for VDR. As the Dscaler = Algorithms are > open source there is no need to reinvent the wheel :-) But as i am = not a > programmer i have no idea how difficult it is to adopt/reprogram the = windows > code to linux. >=20 > there was one interesting thread on the list regarding a "modular" = VDR. A > modular VDR with a software interface for some kind of pug-ins would = be > great. standard would be receiving/decoding of the dvb stream with = the DVB > card. optional would be receiving with the DVB card and then sending = the > data to the deinterlacing or scaling plug-in of your choice. >=20 > In this case Klaus could concentrate on the main VDR and others could = take > care of plug-ins of their interest. Unfortunatly i only have the = interest, > not the knowledge...:-( >=20 > cu > Mirko "Psychonaut" Morschheuser >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > -----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht----- > Von: Ortner, Uwe [mailto:Uwe.Ortner@faidor.de] > Gesendet: Dienstag, 8. Januar 2002 16:59 > An: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org > Betreff: [linux-dvb] HDTV & DVB / VDR (dscaler ..) >=20 >=20 > Hello there, >=20 > I use VDR in my Linux box (SuSE 7.3) with 2 Siemens DVB-C > I heard a lot about Scaling Software (dscaler etc.) in > http://www.beisammen.de. Anybody out there who has some experience in > this topic (especially with vdr)? >=20 > Regards, > Uwe >=20 > PS: I neither want to run a second box nor to use WINxxx=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 > Info: > To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe > linux-dvb" as subject. >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 > Info: > To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe = linux-dvb" as subject. -- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Thu Jan 10 12:58:13 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mhonarc@limes.convergence.de Received: (qmail 5144 invoked by uid 0); 10 Jan 2002 12:58:13 -0000 Received: from chambertin.convergence.de (212.84.236.2) by limes.convergence.de with SMTP; 10 Jan 2002 12:58:13 -0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=chambertin) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16OeeK-0006pC-00; Thu, 10 Jan 2002 13:49:40 +0100 Received: with LISTAR (v0.129a; list linux-dvb); Thu, 10 Jan 2002 13:46:20 +0100 (MET) Received: from [193.45.189.139] (helo=pcmsgroup.com) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16Oeb5-0006ZM-00 for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2002 13:46:19 +0100 Received: from [192.168.161.55] (account john.williams@pcmsdatafit.co.uk HELO JohnW.pcmsdatafit.co.uk) by pcmsgroup.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.4.5) with ESMTP id 713818 for linux-dvb@linuxtv.org; Thu, 10 Jan 2002 12:45:45 +0000 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.1.20020110123343.009f8160@mail-host.pcmsgroup.com> X-Sender: John.Williams@pcmsdatafit.co.uk@mail-host.pcmsgroup.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 12:45:45 +0000 To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org From: JohnW Subject: [linux-dvb] Original firmware Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-listar-version: Listar v0.129a Sender: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Errors-to: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org X-original-sender: John.Williams@pcmsdatafit.co.uk Precedence: bulk X-list: linux-dvb Hello everyone, If anyone is still interested in the patch I made to get the driver to work with the original firmware, there is a new version on http://www.linuxdvb.tv/driver/index.html. 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From linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Thu Jan 10 13:39:49 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mhonarc@limes.convergence.de Received: (qmail 19633 invoked by uid 0); 10 Jan 2002 13:39:49 -0000 Received: from chambertin.convergence.de (212.84.236.2) by limes.convergence.de with SMTP; 10 Jan 2002 13:39:49 -0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=chambertin) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16OfIZ-0001VN-00; Thu, 10 Jan 2002 14:31:15 +0100 Received: with LISTAR (v0.129a; list linux-dvb); Thu, 10 Jan 2002 14:25:59 +0100 (MET) Received: from warsl401pip7.highway.telekom.at ([195.3.96.115] helo=email01.aon.at) by chambertin.convergence.de with smtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16OfDT-0000Jv-00 for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2002 14:25:59 +0100 Received: (qmail 319992 invoked from network); 10 Jan 2002 13:25:22 -0000 Received: from m310p005.adsl.highway.telekom.at (HELO athlon) ([62.47.166.165]) (envelope-sender ) by qmail1.highway.telekom.at (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 10 Jan 2002 13:25:22 -0000 Message-ID: <002901c199db$02b8fd50$0400a8c0@athlon> From: "Andy van de Graaf" To: References: <1010505551.4099.1.camel@dshpc020> Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: HDTV & DVB / VDR (dscaler ..) Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 14:30:46 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 X-listar-version: Listar v0.129a Sender: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Errors-to: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org X-original-sender: aon.912565558@aon.at Precedence: bulk X-list: linux-dvb you better have a look at AVSForum (www.avsforum.com) which is the 'official' discussion forum for Dscaler in the Home Theater PC thread. Do note that there is also no real integrated solution for Windows either. I'm not aware of any DVB reception software which works integrated with Dscaler. The only possible solution is to give analog video out and capture it again with a BT878 card. I've been able to get this to work with WinDVBlive and Dscaler by setting overlay off in WinDVBlive. Andy van de Graaf ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ortner, Uwe" To: Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 4:59 PM Subject: [linux-dvb] HDTV & DVB / VDR (dscaler ..) > Hello there, > > I use VDR in my Linux box (SuSE 7.3) with 2 Siemens DVB-C > I heard a lot about Scaling Software (dscaler etc.) in > http://www.beisammen.de. Anybody out there who has some experience in > this topic (especially with vdr)? > > Regards, > Uwe > > PS: I neither want to run a second box nor to use WINxxx > > > > -- > Info: > To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. > > -- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Thu Jan 10 14:33:48 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mhonarc@limes.convergence.de Received: (qmail 6533 invoked by uid 0); 10 Jan 2002 14:33:48 -0000 Received: from chambertin.convergence.de (212.84.236.2) by limes.convergence.de with SMTP; 10 Jan 2002 14:33:48 -0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=chambertin) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16Og8m-0004VP-00; Thu, 10 Jan 2002 15:25:12 +0100 Received: with LISTAR (v0.129a; list linux-dvb); Thu, 10 Jan 2002 15:17:41 +0100 (MET) Received: from smtp-out-7.wanadoo.fr ([193.252.19.26] helo=mel-rto7.wanadoo.fr) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16Og1V-00045N-00 for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2002 15:17:41 +0100 Received: from mel-rta5.wanadoo.fr (193.252.19.122) by mel-rto7.wanadoo.fr; 10 Jan 2002 15:17:10 +0100 Received: from wanadoo.fr (193.250.211.65) by mel-rta5.wanadoo.fr; 10 Jan 2002 15:16:49 +0100 Sender: root Message-ID: <3C3DA11D.3B15D386@wanadoo.fr> Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 15:11:41 +0100 From: Patrick GUENEAU X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.10 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "linux-dvb@linuxtv.org" Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: HDTV & DVB / VDR (dscaler ..) References: <1010505551.4099.1.camel@dshpc020> <002901c199db$02b8fd50$0400a8c0@athlon> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-listar-version: Listar v0.129a Sender: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Errors-to: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org X-original-sender: pgueneau@wanadoo.fr Precedence: bulk X-list: linux-dvb Hello Andy, I am not sure it is a good idea to do D/A - A/D roundtrip to do scaling. It has been discussed many times on AVSFORUM and it is still a hot topic. BT8X8 is really a basic relatively low performance capture device. DScaler team is still searching for a good capture board. I would prefer using software scaling or hardware (EM8300/EM8400) without going in Analog domain. I ve just tested VDR files playback using MPlayer AND DXR3/H+. It seems to work really well ! I have been replaying VDR files for quite a while now using MPlayer and Xv to scale images on ATI Rag128 Pro. MPlayer is getting better and better every day. It doesn't give you all the features of Dscaler but it seems to be enough for me. That's the reason why i would like to integrate RTP in VDR to feed MPlayer stdin and to live TV deinterlacing/scaling. I am not sure whether MPlayer is doing 3:2 Pulldown, but that's not a problem for us as we all live with PAL. Patrick Gueneau Andy van de Graaf wrote: > > you better have a look at AVSForum (www.avsforum.com) which is the > 'official' discussion forum for Dscaler in the Home Theater PC thread. Do > note that there is also no real integrated solution for Windows either. I'm > not aware of any DVB reception software which works integrated with Dscaler. > The only possible solution is to give analog video out and capture it again > with a BT878 card. I've been able to get this to work with WinDVBlive and > Dscaler by setting overlay off in WinDVBlive. > > Andy van de Graaf > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ortner, Uwe" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 4:59 PM > Subject: [linux-dvb] HDTV & DVB / VDR (dscaler ..) > > > Hello there, > > > > I use VDR in my Linux box (SuSE 7.3) with 2 Siemens DVB-C > > I heard a lot about Scaling Software (dscaler etc.) in > > http://www.beisammen.de. Anybody out there who has some experience in > > this topic (especially with vdr)? > > > > Regards, > > Uwe > > > > PS: I neither want to run a second box nor to use WINxxx > > > > > > > > -- > > Info: > > To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe > linux-dvb" as subject. > > > > > > -- > Info: > To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. -- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Thu Jan 10 14:36:43 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mhonarc@limes.convergence.de Received: (qmail 6579 invoked by uid 0); 10 Jan 2002 14:36:43 -0000 Received: from chambertin.convergence.de (212.84.236.2) by limes.convergence.de with SMTP; 10 Jan 2002 14:36:43 -0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=chambertin) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16OgBc-0004lg-00; Thu, 10 Jan 2002 15:28:08 +0100 Received: with LISTAR (v0.129a; list linux-dvb); Thu, 10 Jan 2002 15:23:53 +0100 (MET) Received: from mailrelay.netcologne.de ([194.8.194.96]) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16Og7V-0004Ql-00 for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2002 15:23:53 +0100 Received: from sheridan.metzler (dial-194-8-209-106.netcologne.de [194.8.209.106]) by mailrelay.netcologne.de (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g0AENHN02407; Thu, 10 Jan 2002 15:23:17 +0100 (MET) Received: (from mocm@localhost) by sheridan.metzler (8.11.3/8.11.0/SuSE Linux 8.11.0-0.4) id g0AENVQ30508; Thu, 10 Jan 2002 15:23:31 +0100 From: Message-ID: <15421.41955.894525.562455@sheridan.metzler> Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 15:23:31 +0100 (CET) To: "Andy van de Graaf" Cc: Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: HDTV & DVB / VDR (dscaler ..) In-Reply-To: <002901c199db$02b8fd50$0400a8c0@athlon> References: <1010505551.4099.1.camel@dshpc020> <002901c199db$02b8fd50$0400a8c0@athlon> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid Reply-To: Marcus Metzler X-Face: X!$Vwl\?,AW_[zm^ej\MLxN>q;R?C_sRZ*XE4V;BGT28Ewyd\:TS')W'G#Dgay8ci$*{lEd 02(Nk0OndG\752U>lozmb_R1poDm6mgHm_4.}bdS0hh.`xGUI.X2x_50T9.?_v~.,QI*$2:Q=HV@>F IP6%l~E:T|w,X[eC;|YD(A9X'sS"r$l]g<4CjAm4|f7o0>6zGwUPLinP0.d=E+_%?4>0A9'esEZ=9h $#b[g*/q/g'GVj-hDc,+V_]1.H^N,1Bju,>5FZn"B Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 1.6) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-listar-version: Listar v0.129a Sender: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Errors-to: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org X-original-sender: mocm@convergence.de Precedence: bulk X-list: linux-dvb Andy van de Graaf writes: > you better have a look at AVSForum (www.avsforum.com) which is the > 'official' discussion forum for Dscaler in the Home Theater PC thread. Do > note that there is also no real integrated solution for Windows either. I'm > not aware of any DVB reception software which works integrated with Dscaler. > The only possible solution is to give analog video out and capture it again > with a BT878 card. I've been able to get this to work with WinDVBlive and > Dscaler by setting overlay off in WinDVBlive. > I think people are not aware that the DVB-s card also has a video4linux device that can give you the decoded video output via DMA. You can scale the picture, change the brightness etc. . How do you think xawtv displays the picture? So, why would you need a bt848/878 card? Or what do you want to do? What do you mean by descaler? Marcus -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- Dr. Marcus Metzler mocm@netcologne.de http://www.metzlerbros.de mocm@convergence.de http://www.convergence.de Convergence Integrated Media GmbH Rosenthaler Str. 51 D-10178 Berlin --------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Thu Jan 10 14:52:35 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mhonarc@limes.convergence.de Received: (qmail 11806 invoked by uid 0); 10 Jan 2002 14:52:34 -0000 Received: from chambertin.convergence.de (212.84.236.2) by limes.convergence.de with SMTP; 10 Jan 2002 14:52:34 -0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=chambertin) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16OgQy-0006LQ-00; Thu, 10 Jan 2002 15:44:00 +0100 Received: with LISTAR (v0.129a; list linux-dvb); Thu, 10 Jan 2002 15:37:33 +0100 (MET) Received: from natpost.webmailer.de ([192.67.198.65] helo=post.webmailer.de) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16OgKj-00060I-00 for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2002 15:37:33 +0100 Received: from kermit ([62.67.40.66]) by post.webmailer.de (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id PAA07772 for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2002 15:37:33 +0100 (MET) From: "Marc Stauff" To: Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: HDTV & DVB / VDR (dscaler ..) Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 15:37:00 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <15421.41955.894525.562455@sheridan.metzler> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Importance: Normal X-listar-version: Listar v0.129a Sender: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Errors-to: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org X-original-sender: news@stauff.org Precedence: bulk X-list: linux-dvb When watchin Tv on the Monitor, you usually get ugly atifacts when objects move from left to right across the screen. The borders of the object get those ooomm... "kammstrukturen" because you display 2 normally interlaced pictures at the same time. The solution for this is usually leaving away one of the two pictures, which reduces the vertical resulution to the half and gives a very unsharp picture. Dscaler is a windows-software that is used to make a progressive pictures from interlaced pictures. The Programm is made to take the input from a bt848/878 card and do some interpolations/calculations to get rid of the artifacts. (The same happens inside of every 100 Hz Tv). I have not tried the software yet, but it is said to be very good. Some people use a windows-pc with a bt848 card just as a "linedoubler" to make progressive/highresolution picture out of the output of a dvd-player and use it for a high-end projektor for example. As Dscaler takes input only from these bt848/878 chips, a possible setup to watch tv is to loop the output of the dbvs card back into the framegrabber card... > > you better have a look at AVSForum (www.avsforum.com) which is the > > 'official' discussion forum for Dscaler in the Home Theater PC thread. Do > > note that there is also no real integrated solution for Windows either. I'm > > not aware of any DVB reception software which works integrated with Dscaler. > > The only possible solution is to give analog video out and capture it again > > with a BT878 card. I've been able to get this to work with WinDVBlive and > > Dscaler by setting overlay off in WinDVBlive. > > > I think people are not aware that the DVB-s card also has a > video4linux device that can give you the decoded video output via DMA. > You can scale the picture, change the brightness etc. . > How do you think xawtv displays the picture? > So, why would you need a bt848/878 card? > Or what do you want to do? What do you mean by descaler? > -- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Thu Jan 10 15:03:21 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mhonarc@limes.convergence.de Received: (qmail 16408 invoked by uid 0); 10 Jan 2002 15:03:21 -0000 Received: from chambertin.convergence.de (212.84.236.2) by limes.convergence.de with SMTP; 10 Jan 2002 15:03:21 -0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=chambertin) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16OgbO-0006xS-00; Thu, 10 Jan 2002 15:54:46 +0100 Received: with LISTAR (v0.129a; list linux-dvb); Thu, 10 Jan 2002 15:49:10 +0100 (MET) Received: from ns.philosys.de ([193.100.254.1] helo=mail.philosys.de) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16OgVy-0006YA-00 for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2002 15:49:10 +0100 Received: from MIRONA (IDENT:root@philos [193.100.254.1]) by mail.philosys.de (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g0AEnGq09731; Thu, 10 Jan 2002 15:49:16 +0100 From: Emil Naepflein To: "linux-dvb@linuxtv.org" Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: HDTV & DVB / VDR (dscaler ..) Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 15:48:19 +0100 Organization: PHILOSYS Software GmbH Message-ID: References: <1010505551.4099.1.camel@dshpc020> <002901c199db$02b8fd50$0400a8c0@athlon> <3C3DA11D.3B15D386@wanadoo.fr> In-Reply-To: <3C3DA11D.3B15D386@wanadoo.fr> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.8/32.548 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-listar-version: Listar v0.129a Sender: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Errors-to: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org X-original-sender: Emil.Naepflein@philosys.de Precedence: bulk X-list: linux-dvb On Thu, 10 Jan 2002 15:11:41 +0100, Patrick GUENEAU wrote: > I am not sure whether MPlayer is doing 3:2 Pulldown, but that's not a > problem for us as we all live with PAL. We need proper 2:2 pulldown to avoid the zick-zack lines. Emil -- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Thu Jan 10 15:17:25 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mhonarc@limes.convergence.de Received: (qmail 21055 invoked by uid 0); 10 Jan 2002 15:17:25 -0000 Received: from chambertin.convergence.de (212.84.236.2) by limes.convergence.de with SMTP; 10 Jan 2002 15:17:25 -0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=chambertin) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16Ogp1-0000Fj-00; Thu, 10 Jan 2002 16:08:51 +0100 Received: with LISTAR (v0.129a; list linux-dvb); Thu, 10 Jan 2002 16:03:12 +0100 (MET) Received: from ns.philosys.de ([193.100.254.1] helo=mail.philosys.de) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16OgjX-0008I3-00 for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2002 16:03:11 +0100 Received: from MIRONA (IDENT:root@philos [193.100.254.1]) by mail.philosys.de (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g0AF3Iq10392; Thu, 10 Jan 2002 16:03:18 +0100 From: Emil Naepflein To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: HDTV & DVB / VDR (dscaler ..) Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 16:02:20 +0100 Organization: PHILOSYS Software GmbH Message-ID: References: <1010505551.4099.1.camel@dshpc020> <002901c199db$02b8fd50$0400a8c0@athlon> <15421.41955.894525.562455@sheridan.metzler> In-Reply-To: <15421.41955.894525.562455@sheridan.metzler> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.8/32.548 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-listar-version: Listar v0.129a Sender: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Errors-to: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org X-original-sender: Emil.Naepflein@philosys.de Precedence: bulk X-list: linux-dvb On Thu, 10 Jan 2002 15:23:31 +0100 (CET), wrote: > I think people are not aware that the DVB-s card also has a > video4linux device that can give you the decoded video output via DMA. > You can scale the picture, change the brightness etc. . > How do you think xawtv displays the picture? > So, why would you need a bt848/878 card? > Or what do you want to do? What do you mean by descaler? Does the MPEG stream transmitted bei DVB contain the interlace flag identifying fields that belong together just like on DVD? For film this normally helps to combine the both interlaced fields that belong together into one non-interlaced frame. For video you have to use some more intelligent algorithm to avoid the zick-zack lines, because her the source is really interlaced. I assume the video4linux device just places the interlaced image into the frame buffer. This looks just awfull with programs like kvdr on a large screen (I have a beamer). Currently the image from the S-video feed through my scaler, which scales it to 1024x768 anamorph, looks much better then any progressive image from the graphic card, even the scaler cannot do 2:2 pulldown. The scaling to a higher resolution smooth the edges at the cost of sharpness. BTW, the Reply-To: line in the header is wrong again. Emil -- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Thu Jan 10 15:20:24 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mhonarc@limes.convergence.de Received: (qmail 21377 invoked by uid 0); 10 Jan 2002 15:20:24 -0000 Received: from chambertin.convergence.de (212.84.236.2) by limes.convergence.de with SMTP; 10 Jan 2002 15:20:24 -0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=chambertin) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16Ogru-0000bc-00; Thu, 10 Jan 2002 16:11:50 +0100 Received: with LISTAR (v0.129a; list linux-dvb); Thu, 10 Jan 2002 16:07:44 +0100 (MET) Received: from 1cust-50.au1.mg.de.alter.net ([149.228.5.50] helo=server2.rogal2) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16Ognw-0000B3-00 for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2002 16:07:44 +0100 Received: by ThisAddressDoesNotExist with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Thu, 10 Jan 2002 16:16:27 +0100 Message-ID: <1524C542FEF9D411B6E50050DA38D35EDD38@ThisAddressDoesNotExist> From: Mirko Morschheuser To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] AW: Re: HDTV & DVB / VDR (dscaler ..) Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 16:16:27 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-listar-version: Listar v0.129a Sender: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Errors-to: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org X-original-sender: mirko@rogal-ingenieurgesellschaft.de Precedence: bulk X-list: linux-dvb rehi all, i think the following article brings some kind of light to the interlaced/progressive scan issue: http://www.hometheaterhifi.com/volume_7_4/dvd-benchmark-part-5-progressive-1 0-2000.html besides concentrating on NTSC only it basicly explains the backround pretty understandable. I think we all agree that the 2 PC solution with Dscaler and the unnecesary AD-DA conversion is actually technicaly out of the question. As long as the DVB Stream is film-source based there schould not be a big Problem with softwaredeinterlacing. 2 fields schould make one perfect frame (weave). just remember that some stations (Premiere Cinedom Deluxe for example) are sending in anamorph with a descent bitrate nowadays. deinterlacing video based programs such as formula 1 (i hate stairstepped curves :-)) is more difficult and needs a lot of CPU horsepower. Motion adaptive deinterlacing should probably be left to special high bucks faroujda hardware and the like....But who knows, with clockrates gettting higher maybe its just around the corner. Does anybody know if the DVB stream contains the same flags as in the Mpeg2 stream on a DVD? Software Mpeg2 decoders usually read these flags and deinterlace according to them. Therefore you get problems when the DVD mastering was poor and the flags are set incorrectly. cu Mirko -- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Thu Jan 10 15:30:20 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mhonarc@limes.convergence.de Received: (qmail 23769 invoked by uid 0); 10 Jan 2002 15:30:20 -0000 Received: from chambertin.convergence.de (212.84.236.2) by limes.convergence.de with SMTP; 10 Jan 2002 15:30:20 -0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=chambertin) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16Oh1T-00017U-00; Thu, 10 Jan 2002 16:21:43 +0100 Received: with LISTAR (v0.129a; list linux-dvb); Thu, 10 Jan 2002 16:17:17 +0100 (MET) Received: from mailrelay.netcologne.de ([194.8.194.96]) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16Ogx7-0000lL-00 for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2002 16:17:13 +0100 Received: from sheridan.metzler (dial-194-8-209-106.netcologne.de [194.8.209.106]) by mailrelay.netcologne.de (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g0AFGxN25764 for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2002 16:17:00 +0100 (MET) Received: (from mocm@localhost) by sheridan.metzler (8.11.3/8.11.0/SuSE Linux 8.11.0-0.4) id g0AFH2w31034; Thu, 10 Jan 2002 16:17:02 +0100 From: Message-ID: <15421.45165.990517.848115@sheridan.metzler> Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 16:17:01 +0100 (CET) To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: HDTV & DVB / VDR (dscaler ..) In-Reply-To: References: <1010505551.4099.1.camel@dshpc020> <002901c199db$02b8fd50$0400a8c0@athlon> <15421.41955.894525.562455@sheridan.metzler> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid Reply-To: Marcus Metzler X-Face: X!$Vwl\?,AW_[zm^ej\MLxN>q;R?C_sRZ*XE4V;BGT28Ewyd\:TS')W'G#Dgay8ci$*{lEd 02(Nk0OndG\752U>lozmb_R1poDm6mgHm_4.}bdS0hh.`xGUI.X2x_50T9.?_v~.,QI*$2:Q=HV@>F IP6%l~E:T|w,X[eC;|YD(A9X'sS"r$l]g<4CjAm4|f7o0>6zGwUPLinP0.d=E+_%?4>0A9'esEZ=9h $#b[g*/q/g'GVj-hDc,+V_]1.H^N,1Bju,>5FZn"B Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 1.6) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-listar-version: Listar v0.129a Sender: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Errors-to: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org X-original-sender: mocm@convergence.de Precedence: bulk X-list: linux-dvb Emil Naepflein writes: > Does the MPEG stream transmitted bei DVB contain the interlace flag > identifying fields that belong together just like on DVD? Probably depends on the encoder of the channel provider. We don't change anything about the elementary stream. > > For film this normally helps to combine the both interlaced fields that > belong together into one non-interlaced frame. For video you have to use > some more intelligent algorithm to avoid the zick-zack lines, because > her the source is really interlaced. > > I assume the video4linux device just places the interlaced image into > the frame buffer. This looks just awfull with programs like kvdr on a > large screen (I have a beamer). Currently the image from the S-video > feed through my scaler, which scales it to 1024x768 anamorph, looks much > better then any progressive image from the graphic card, even the scaler > cannot do 2:2 pulldown. The scaling to a higher resolution smooth the > edges at the cost of sharpness. It depends on the driver. The bt848 driver puts the half frames into separate pictures, if the size is smaller than half the TV resolution. I haven't checked what the saa7146 does in that case. If your graphics card supports Xv than xawtv uses the hardware scaler of the card to scale the picture to full screen size. In this case you may still get a line running through the picture, because v4l device and graphics card are not in synch. Maybe you may want to check out DirectFB, the developers were working on synching the v4l output to the output of the graphics card. They had it working for Matrox cards, but I don't know if they have other cards working and if it is included in the latest version. Marcus -- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Thu Jan 10 15:46:57 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mhonarc@limes.convergence.de Received: (qmail 31014 invoked by uid 0); 10 Jan 2002 15:46:56 -0000 Received: from chambertin.convergence.de (212.84.236.2) by limes.convergence.de with SMTP; 10 Jan 2002 15:46:56 -0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=chambertin) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16OhHa-000313-00; Thu, 10 Jan 2002 16:38:22 +0100 Received: with LISTAR (v0.129a; list linux-dvb); Thu, 10 Jan 2002 16:33:48 +0100 (MET) Received: from ns.philosys.de ([193.100.254.1] helo=mail.philosys.de) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16OhD9-0002Xk-00 for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2002 16:33:47 +0100 Received: from MIRONA (IDENT:root@philos [193.100.254.1]) by mail.philosys.de (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g0AFXrq11967; Thu, 10 Jan 2002 16:33:54 +0100 From: Emil Naepflein To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: HDTV & DVB / VDR (dscaler ..) Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 16:32:55 +0100 Organization: PHILOSYS Software GmbH Message-ID: <4acr3u4n9u6nndc954bju2psgupvavudn9@4ax.com> References: <1010505551.4099.1.camel@dshpc020> <002901c199db$02b8fd50$0400a8c0@athlon> <15421.41955.894525.562455@sheridan.metzler> <15421.45165.990517.848115@sheridan.metzler> In-Reply-To: <15421.45165.990517.848115@sheridan.metzler> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.8/32.548 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-listar-version: Listar v0.129a Sender: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Errors-to: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org X-original-sender: Emil.Naepflein@philosys.de Precedence: bulk X-list: linux-dvb On Thu, 10 Jan 2002 16:17:01 +0100 (CET), wrote: > Emil Naepflein writes: > > Does the MPEG stream transmitted bei DVB contain the interlace flag > > identifying fields that belong together just like on DVD? > > Probably depends on the encoder of the channel provider. We don't > change anything about the elementary stream. This is all AFAIK: I did never analyze the stream, but do both interlaced fields always come separate or does it happen that one frame is transmitted with the repeat flag set. This is what happens on DVDs. They encode the full frame and send it only once with the flag set. The decoder then sends the two separate interlaced frames to the video chip. This information is also used with most of the software and hardware decoders for DVD to produce progressive output. They just combine the right frames and you get 50 Hz progressive, or for NTSC 60 Hz progressive. > It depends on the driver. The bt848 driver puts the half frames into > separate pictures, if the size is smaller than half the TV resolution. > I haven't checked what the saa7146 does in that case. > If your graphics card supports Xv than xawtv uses the hardware scaler > of the card to scale the picture to full screen size. In this case you > may still get a line running through the picture, because v4l device > and graphics card are not in synch. > Maybe you may want to check out DirectFB, the developers were working > on synching the v4l output to the output of the graphics card. They > had it working for Matrox cards, but I don't know if they have other > cards working and if it is included in the latest version. The sync is another problem. This may cause the tearing effect seen on older XGA DLP beamers. Here you may see parts of two frames concurrently on the screen. This can be fixed by proper buffering. But before this becomes relevant it is important to combine the right fields to avoid this nasty combine artefacts. Emil -- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Thu Jan 10 15:55:19 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mhonarc@limes.convergence.de Received: (qmail 31691 invoked by uid 0); 10 Jan 2002 15:55:19 -0000 Received: from chambertin.convergence.de (212.84.236.2) by limes.convergence.de with SMTP; 10 Jan 2002 15:55:19 -0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=chambertin) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16OhPi-0003il-00; Thu, 10 Jan 2002 16:46:46 +0100 Received: with LISTAR (v0.129a; list linux-dvb); Thu, 10 Jan 2002 16:41:22 +0100 (MET) Received: from ns.philosys.de ([193.100.254.1] helo=mail.philosys.de) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16OhKT-00036Q-00 for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2002 16:41:21 +0100 Received: from MIRONA (IDENT:root@philos [193.100.254.1]) by mail.philosys.de (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g0AFfSq12283; Thu, 10 Jan 2002 16:41:28 +0100 From: Emil Naepflein To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: AW: Re: HDTV & DVB / VDR (dscaler ..) Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 16:40:30 +0100 Organization: PHILOSYS Software GmbH Message-ID: References: <1524C542FEF9D411B6E50050DA38D35EDD38@ThisAddressDoesNotExist> In-Reply-To: <1524C542FEF9D411B6E50050DA38D35EDD38@ThisAddressDoesNotExist> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.8/32.548 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-listar-version: Listar v0.129a Sender: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Errors-to: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org X-original-sender: Emil.Naepflein@philosys.de Precedence: bulk X-list: linux-dvb On Thu, 10 Jan 2002 16:16:27 +0100, Mirko Morschheuser wrote: > Does anybody know if the DVB stream contains the same flags as in the Mpeg2 > stream on a DVD? Software Mpeg2 decoders usually read these flags and > deinterlace according to them. Therefore you get problems when the DVD > mastering was poor and the flags are set incorrectly. Those people that have the ability to display VDR recordings with a software player (WinDVD et.al.) normally used to playback DVD could check this. They just have to look for deinterlace artifacts in the recordings. If they see them, then there is no easy way. Then we need some intelligence to identify the fields that belong together, or a function that allows selecting the alternate field as starting point for deinterlace. Emil -- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Thu Jan 10 16:17:19 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mhonarc@limes.convergence.de Received: (qmail 8447 invoked by uid 0); 10 Jan 2002 16:17:18 -0000 Received: from chambertin.convergence.de (212.84.236.2) by limes.convergence.de with SMTP; 10 Jan 2002 16:17:18 -0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=chambertin) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16Ohky-0005rr-00; Thu, 10 Jan 2002 17:08:44 +0100 Received: with LISTAR (v0.129a; list linux-dvb); Thu, 10 Jan 2002 17:05:32 +0100 (MET) Received: from smtp-out-4.wanadoo.fr ([193.252.19.23] helo=mel-rto4.wanadoo.fr) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16Ohhs-0005IS-00 for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2002 17:05:32 +0100 Received: from mel-rta7.wanadoo.fr (193.252.19.61) by mel-rto4.wanadoo.fr; 10 Jan 2002 17:05:01 +0100 Received: from wanadoo.fr (80.9.121.111) by mel-rta7.wanadoo.fr; 10 Jan 2002 17:04:42 +0100 Sender: root Message-ID: <3C3DBA66.A29351C0@wanadoo.fr> Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 16:59:34 +0100 From: Patrick GUENEAU X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.10 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "linux-dvb@linuxtv.org" Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: HDTV & DVB / VDR (dscaler ..) References: <1010505551.4099.1.camel@dshpc020> <002901c199db$02b8fd50$0400a8c0@athlon> <3C3DA11D.3B15D386@wanadoo.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-listar-version: Listar v0.129a Sender: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Errors-to: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org X-original-sender: pgueneau@wanadoo.fr Precedence: bulk X-list: linux-dvb Emil, Most of the time i am recording Films not Video. Using MPlayer it seems that there is ZigZag (bad deinterlacing) on some films. You can easily see it on fast moves. But on good Canal+ broadcasts i don't have any problem. Maybe it is a bad NTSC to PAL conversion from US TV series or TV Films. I am pretty sure the problem i see on certain movies is from a bad NTSC to PAL transcoding from TV Broadcasters. (films already on NTSC Video format and converted for broadcasting) If you mix even and odd frames from Film broadcast you have proper 25Hz Frames (called weaves on DScaler FAQ). But on Video, there should be no mix between two fields as even and odd frames aren't recorded at exactly the same time (second one 1/50 sec later).To be sure i just tested Mplayer playback from LCI and LCP channels recordings.And there are many zaggies during moves. So it seems MPlayer is just doing 2:2 pulldown (weaves) on all MPEG files but is not able to detect that it should rather do Video deinterlace (Bob or better) on Video MPEG Files. I don't think there is an option to force deinterlacing method with MPlayer (Arpi would say RTFM again !) Patrick. Emil Naepflein wrote: > > On Thu, 10 Jan 2002 15:11:41 +0100, Patrick GUENEAU > wrote: > > > I am not sure whether MPlayer is doing 3:2 Pulldown, but that's not a > > problem for us as we all live with PAL. > > We need proper 2:2 pulldown to avoid the zick-zack lines. > > Emil > > -- > Info: > To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. -- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Thu Jan 10 16:17:30 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mhonarc@limes.convergence.de Received: (qmail 8453 invoked by uid 0); 10 Jan 2002 16:17:29 -0000 Received: from chambertin.convergence.de (212.84.236.2) by limes.convergence.de with SMTP; 10 Jan 2002 16:17:29 -0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=chambertin) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16Ohl9-0005uC-00; Thu, 10 Jan 2002 17:08:55 +0100 Received: with LISTAR (v0.129a; list linux-dvb); Thu, 10 Jan 2002 17:06:05 +0100 (MET) Received: from 1cust-56.au1.mg.de.alter.net ([149.228.5.56] helo=server2.rogal2) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16OhiP-0005Oy-00 for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2002 17:06:05 +0100 Received: by ThisAddressDoesNotExist with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Thu, 10 Jan 2002 17:15:03 +0100 Message-ID: <1524C542FEF9D411B6E50050DA38D35EDD39@ThisAddressDoesNotExist> From: Mirko Morschheuser To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] AW: Re: AW: Re: HDTV & DVB / VDR (dscaler ..) Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 17:15:02 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-listar-version: Listar v0.129a Sender: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Errors-to: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org X-original-sender: mirko@rogal-ingenieurgesellschaft.de Precedence: bulk X-list: linux-dvb -----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht----- Von: Emil Naepflein [mailto:Emil.Naepflein@philosys.de] Gesendet: Donnerstag, 10. Januar 2002 16:41 An: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Betreff: [linux-dvb] Re: AW: Re: HDTV & DVB / VDR (dscaler ..) On Thu, 10 Jan 2002 16:16:27 +0100, Mirko Morschheuser wrote: > Does anybody know if the DVB stream contains the same flags as in the Mpeg2 > stream on a DVD? Software Mpeg2 decoders usually read these flags and > deinterlace according to them. Therefore you get problems when the = DVD > mastering was poor and the flags are set incorrectly. Those people that have the ability to display VDR recordings with a software player (WinDVD et.al.) normally used to playback DVD could check this. They just have to look for deinterlace artifacts in the recordings. If they see them, then there is no easy way. Then we need some intelligence to identify the fields that belong together, or a function that allows selecting the alternate field as starting point = for deinterlace. Emil ----------------------------------------------------------------------- I will check that with WinDVD as soon as i am ready with my new = Linux/VDR installation.=20 I messed mine up when playing with a new Win98SE embedded based GUI for = my Activy300 box :-(( AFAIK some intelligence is always needed as most DVD's are poorly = mastered and the flags are set incorrectly. Why should that be different with = the people operating the Encoders at the DVB/TV Stations? :-) But the above mentioned scenario shows the dilemma. recording with VDR, using a software Mpeg Player afterwards to get the best picturequality possible is some kind of a hassle. It reminds me of the DVD/HTPC Isuue = under Windows. several little programs have to be started and used and my girlfriend doesnt want to watch a movie anymore by the time i am ready = to go after 15 minutes...:-) Please dont missunderstand me, but a modular all-in-one solution would be a great thing. Of course, as i am no programmer, i can only wish/dream that development will go in that = direction over time. After all i am really thankful and happy that people like = klaus and the guy's at convergence gave me something like VDR to play = with.....:-) It is already better than all the harddiskreceivers i played with so = far! progressive scan would now be the "i-tuepfelchen" to make me happy. cu Mirko "Psychonaut" Morschheuser -- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Thu Jan 10 16:54:43 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mhonarc@limes.convergence.de Received: (qmail 18693 invoked by uid 0); 10 Jan 2002 16:54:43 -0000 Received: from chambertin.convergence.de (212.84.236.2) by limes.convergence.de with SMTP; 10 Jan 2002 16:54:43 -0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=chambertin) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16OiL8-0001VI-00; Thu, 10 Jan 2002 17:46:06 +0100 Received: with LISTAR (v0.129a; list linux-dvb); Thu, 10 Jan 2002 17:39:10 +0100 (MET) Received: from smtp-out-4.wanadoo.fr ([193.252.19.23] helo=mel-rto4.wanadoo.fr) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16OiEP-000151-00 for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2002 17:39:10 +0100 Received: from mel-rta10.wanadoo.fr (193.252.19.193) by mel-rto4.wanadoo.fr; 10 Jan 2002 17:38:39 +0100 Received: from wanadoo.fr (193.250.105.65) by mel-rta10.wanadoo.fr; 10 Jan 2002 17:38:31 +0100 Sender: root Message-ID: <3C3DC37D.4082E98D@wanadoo.fr> Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 17:38:21 +0100 From: Patrick GUENEAU X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.10 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "linux-dvb@linuxtv.org" Subject: [linux-dvb] Deinterlace / Analyzing MPEG file Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-listar-version: Listar v0.129a Sender: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Errors-to: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org X-original-sender: pgueneau@wanadoo.fr Precedence: bulk X-list: linux-dvb Hello, after doing some tests, i have found at least one Video recordings (again Canal+) that doesn't seem to have the same jaggies found on other Video recordings i tested. There should be a difference in encoding. Do you how i can check on MPEG files ? Patrick Gueneau. -- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Thu Jan 10 17:55:27 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mhonarc@limes.convergence.de Received: (qmail 5980 invoked by uid 0); 10 Jan 2002 17:55:27 -0000 Received: from chambertin.convergence.de (212.84.236.2) by limes.convergence.de with SMTP; 10 Jan 2002 17:55:27 -0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=chambertin) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16OjHu-0005bP-00; Thu, 10 Jan 2002 18:46:50 +0100 Received: with LISTAR (v0.129a; list linux-dvb); Thu, 10 Jan 2002 18:43:34 +0100 (MET) Received: from smtp014.mail.yahoo.com ([216.136.173.58]) by chambertin.convergence.de with smtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16OjEk-0005ER-00 for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2002 18:43:34 +0100 Received: from pd9e2b32a.dip.t-dialin.net (HELO there) (217.226.179.42) by smtp.mail.vip.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 10 Jan 2002 17:43:27 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Andreas =?iso-8859-1?q?R=F6ver?= Reply-To: andreas_roever@yahoo.com To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] DVB-C Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 18:43:26 +0100 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.1] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: X-listar-version: Listar v0.129a Sender: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Errors-to: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org X-original-sender: andreas_roever@yahoo.com Precedence: bulk X-list: linux-dvb Hi, Yesss, My TT DVB-C Card is working now. I want to thank you all for the good work. I think the remark on the webpage can be removed. I have no significant problems right now (with yesterdays cvs version) Andreas _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com -- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org Thu Jan 10 20:44:17 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mhonarc@limes.convergence.de Received: (qmail 27684 invoked by uid 0); 10 Jan 2002 20:44:17 -0000 Received: from chambertin.convergence.de (212.84.236.2) by limes.convergence.de with SMTP; 10 Jan 2002 20:44:17 -0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=chambertin) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16OlvC-0007hk-00; Thu, 10 Jan 2002 21:35:34 +0100 Received: with LISTAR (v0.129a; list linux-dvb); Thu, 10 Jan 2002 21:29:42 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail.s.netic.de ([212.9.160.11] helo=mail.netic.de) by chambertin.convergence.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2 ) id 16OlpT-0006X2-00 for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2002 21:29:40 +0100 Received: by mail.netic.de (Smail3.2.0.111/mail.s.netic.de) via LF.net GmbH Internet Services via remoteip 195.252.192.224 via remotehost there with smtp for chambertin.convergence.de id m16OlpS-001XBUC; Thu, 10 Jan 2002 21:29:38 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Guido Fiala To: "Linux-DVB" Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: HDTV & DVB / VDR (dscaler ..) 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