From alois@sillian.com Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 18:54:23 +0100 From: Alois Schneider To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: Problem with DVB/VDR and Duron 800Mhz solved It was a silly mistake. When I reassembled the PC I plugged the aerial cable into the wrong connector. Regards Alois --On Montag, 29. Jänner 2001 23:30 +0100 Alois Schneider wrote: > I used the combination DVB/VDR for some time now on a AMD K6 333Mhz. For > various reasons I changed processor and motherboard to a Duron 800Mhz and > a MSI K7T Pro motherboard. Since the change, I cannot watch TV-channels > any longer. Make insmod loads the drivers without an error and VDR starts > fine too, but there is no picture on the composite output. I can see the > OSD and I get the following error: ERROR: channel not sync'ed > (front.sync=0)! > > I can however replay recordings made with the old MB/CPU combination. > Are there any known problems with the new processor or the motherboard? > Do you have any suggestions? > > Any help would be appreciated. > > Alois > > PS: I have a Hauppauge DVBs! > > > > > --- Info: > To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe > linux-dvb" as subject. > > --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From dave@dchapman.com Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 18:24:53 +0000 From: Dave Chapman To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Help implementing teletext parser I've written a short program which sets a PES filter for the teletext PID and I am attempting to understand the data that I am receiving from my DVB card. I'm using a recent (i.e. 25th Jan) CVS version of the driver, the old API and a Hauppauge card. Teletext re-insertion on the composite output works perfectly. I'm setting bitfilter.pid to 2306 (the tt_pid for my test channel - BBC Parliament on Astra 2A), and the first PES filter to 0xBD. The rest of the filters are 0. I then read 8 bytes from the device - bytes 4 and 5 return my pid (2306), and bytes 6 and 7 contain a length of 448 bytes. I then do a second read on the device, and it gives me those 448 bytes (and no more - I've tried!). The first 44 bytes of this data appears to be some kind of header. This is followed by 0x10 (the identifier for EBU teletext), and then a series of 46 byte records contain what should be the actual teletext data. However after 8 full records of 46 bytes, the last one contains only 35 bytes. Further reads to the device repeat the same pattern - 8 bytes followed by 448 bytes. The ETSI standard (EN 300 472) states that the "PES_packet_length" is set to "N*184 - 6" - where N is the number of the above mentioned 46 byte records. Where is the PES_packet_length? Any clarification gratefully received - am I doing something very stupid? Regards, Dave. --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From Stefan.Hagendorn@lindy.cc Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 23:03:01 +0100 From: Stefan.Hagendorn@lindy.cc To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] A whole day without a mail on the List ??? List dead ??? - just a test - I'm just wonder if the list is broken or if there a really no mails today ?? btw: still need some answers to: "[linux-dvb] Cheap SPDIF Soundcard for use with DVB/VDR/DVD - and other questions" Thanks Stefan Hagendorn --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From kcraigie@mediabolic.com Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 15:08:32 -0800 (PST) From: Keith Craigie To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] quick possibly stupid question I'm using mpegtools to do some manipulation - the readme describes the usage of ts2pes and ts2ps, but the latter link is never created... and when I created it by hand, it didn't seem to do anything. IS there a ts2ps-equivalent program in the current version of the software? Thanks, Keith -- Keith Craigie R&D Mediabolic, Inc. --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From dvbc@topmail.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Fri, 02 Feb 2001 13:33:28 +0100 From: Werner dvbc To: Subject: [linux-dvb] internal connectors Siemens dvb-c card Hi, there are 2 internal connectors (10 pin and 14 pin) close to the DSP on the Siemens DVB-C card. Has someone the pin definitions for these 2 internal connectors? ...Bye... 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From axelgruber2@gmx.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2001 14:37:26 +0100 (MET) From: Axel Gruber To: Thomas Schuett Cc: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org, linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: WG: Re: korrupt MPEG2 Stream > Da ich auch grade an dem Punkt bin, dass ich gerne in DIVX wandeln würde, > würde ich gerne wissen, wie Du es genau machst. Ich selbst hab 0-Erfolg > mit > FlaskMpeg, aber ich kriege es auch mittlerweile hin, den AV_PES-Stream Ja - den orginal-Output mag der Flask nicht (wie auch viele andere Programme. Du muß den Stream nochamls remultiplexen - also demultiplexen und neu multiplexen. Dann klappt´s mit flask. Allerdings hab ich auf LINUX-BASIS noch kein anständiges Multiplex-Proggy gefunden, das ohne Sync-Verlust funktioniert. Ralph wollte mal ein "remultiplex" Programm schreiben - ich hab´s aber seitdem nicht mehr probiert. > (also "altes" format) der DVB-Karte unter win mit PVA2MPG (genauer: mit > dem > darin enthaltenen PVA2EXT) zu wandeln und das Ergebnis (.m2v) mit avi2mpeg > in > DIVX zu wandeln. Ja - das klappt ! > Meine Fragen: 1. Nimmst Du auch diesen Weg ? 2. Womit tust Du das Ergebnis > am Ende wieder remultiplexen (+URL?). 3. Wie kriegst Du das Bild am Ende > wieder "breitgezogen", also das die 480 Pixel beim Abspielen auf 704 Pixel > umgerechnet werden ? 4. Gibt's sonstiges, was ich wissen sollte ? 1.Momentan nehme ich noch garkeinen dieser Wege, da das multiplexe noch nicht so optimal funktioniert - und das Windows-Programm das ich habe kann nur bis zu 500 MB verarbeiten... 2. Wie schon gesagt... 3. das muß schon dein Player machen ! 4. Ich benutze nicht DIVX sondern MPEG1 Ist aber bei mir daurch bedingt, daß ich das im Auto abspiele... und mein Auto-Player kann nur MPEG1 :-) > Ich hab den "streamcutter" gemacht, musste jetzt aber merken, dass derart > grob > behandelte Streams nicht mehr von PVA2EXT akzeptiert werden. Womit > schneidest > Du ? Ich schneide mit dem VDR vorab praktisch... An Ralph: (wenn du mitliest) ist aus dem Remultiplexer schon was geworden ? -- Sent through GMX FreeMail - http://www.gmx.net --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From axelgruber2@gmx.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2001 20:58:06 +0100 (MET) From: Axel Gruber To: Thomas Schuett Cc: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org, linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: WG: Re: korrupt MPEG2 Stream > danke für die schnelle Antwort. No Problem.. > > 2. Wie schon gesagt... > > Hmm - eigentlich nicht :-) Das einzige Programm, welches den STream sauber remultiplexen kann (was ich gefunden habe) ist WOMBLE WINVCR (WINDOWS) > Die 500-MB-Grenze ist IMHO nicht sooo schlimm, denn wenn die "Zielgröße" > eh > bei 650 MB liegt :-] dann bedeutet das gerade mal *einen* "Break". Das Ist meiner Meinung nach eher ein Programmfehler.. > > 3. das muß schon dein Player machen ! > Unter linux gibt's als MPEG4-Player wohl aviplay (=avifile) und nochsowas > (XMRS > oder so), was auch auf der avifile-lib aufsetzt (berichtige mich, wenn das > falsch sein sollte). Hmm - Damit hab ich mich noch nicht befasst, da an meinem LINUX_Rechner nicht mal ein Monitor hängt... > >Ist aber bei mir daurch bedingt, daß ich das im Auto abspiele... und mein > >Auto-Player kann nur MPEG1 :-) > > Im Auto ??? BeimFahren ??? Wie auch immer - *kann* DeinPlayer das > "strecken" ? He he - ja - klappt ganz gut ! > Ist so'ne Funktionalität "üblich"?. Klar - schau dir mal an, welches Format z.b.: Premierworld sendet ? - die senden genau dieses Format - deine D-BOX - oder halt die DVB-S karte rechnet das dann auf die volle bildschirmbreite um ! Darum ist ja z.b.: auch die Bildqualität bei PW dermassen schlecht ! > >Ich schneide mit dem VDR vorab praktisch... > > Jo, hab gelesen, dass der das jetzt kann. Wollt ich schon die ganze Zeit > mal > ausprobieren... Das klappt sehr gut ! Ich hab mir in meinen Linux-Rechner einen CD-Brenner eingebaut und einen 5-Fach CD-ROM wechsler. Der VDR erzeugt automatisch bei mir 650 MB files - welche er dann automatisch auf bis zu 3 CD´s bei Filmen und auf bis zu 2 CD´s bei Serien verteilt. Man muß dann halt nur alle 3 in den CD-ROM wechsler stecken und los geht´s... > Ich hab jetzt mal in deutsch geschrieben, weil mir aufgefallen ist, dass > ich > komliziertere, vorwiegend "vermutungsbasierte" :-) Aussagen und Fragen in > Englisch doch nie so richtig hinkriege. Meist führt das dann zu immer mehr > Missverständnissen. Die Kehrseite ist natürlich, dass das für die ML nicht > so Ach - ich glaub das geht schon i.o. da hier sehr viele Deutsch/Englisch-sprechende mitlesen... -- Sent through GMX FreeMail - http://www.gmx.net --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From paul@campina.iiruc.ro Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2001 21:36:36 +0200 From: Paul Lacatus To: "linux-dvb@linuxtv.org" Subject: [linux-dvb] dvdplayer and driver 0.8.1 Dvdplayer does not compile on 0.8.1 driver . Not even 0.3 version ? Paul --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From clemens@root.at Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2001 00:23:43 +0100 From: Clemens Kirchgatterer Reply-To: clemens@linuxaustria.com To: clemens@linuxaustria.com Cc: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: vdr-0.7 lirc-0.6.3pre4 linux-2.4.1 Clemens Kirchgatterer wrote: > > are there any known problems with this combination. all lirc > testprogramms work but vdr does not! :-( > i can see vdr connecting to lircd in syslog but it does not react on > keypresses. i use the same lircd.conf file like in the earlier version, > so this should be ok too! grrr! i forgot to copy channel.conf to /video! sorry for bothering you ... clemens --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From rjkm@convergence.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2001 05:18:27 +0100 (CET) From: Ralph Metzler To: Simon Baehrens Cc: Linux-DVB Subject: [linux-dvb] Support for Pinnacle PCTV Sat Simon Baehrens writes: > > Hello, > > I've the PCTV Sat card from Pinnacle. I've chosen it because of its lower price > and its video-in on board. Some more information about it you can read on > http://www.pinnaclesys.de/de/product.asp?product_id=521&page_id=2 (mostly in > english). > > At this time I have to use the buggy windows software that came with the card. > I would be very interessted in a linux solution. Is there already any > development on the way? Or are there special problems? I was in contact with somebody from Pinnacle who introduced me to somebody else at Conexant who never answered my request regarding information about the Conexant tuner and DVB demodulator. Since this is not really a priority for us right now (we have the TT-Budget/Hauppauge Nova working and we do not need the extra frame grabbing functionality) I am not pursuing this any further at the moment. Ralph --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From paul@campina.iiruc.ro Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2001 10:26:16 +0200 From: Paul Lacatus To: clemens@linuxaustria.com Cc: "linux-dvb@linuxtv.org" Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: dvb-0.8.1 & dvdplayer-0.3 & linux 2.4.1 Clemens Kirchgatterer wrote: > > just compiled dvdplayer-0.3 but i can't even authenticate the dvd ... > > A similar problem I have here on the same configuration ( kernel 2.4.1 driver 0.8.1 dvd player 0.3) But to me the disk looks like authenticated. The stream is read from DVB but nothing on the screen > Feb 4 01:07:42 kernel: The failed "Send DVD Structure" packet command > was: > Feb 4 01:07:42 kernel: "ad 00 00 00 00 00 00 02 08 04 c0 00 " > > a problem with the ide-driver? any solutions? But in the messages I have other error . see the attachment. Greetings Paul -- Attached file included as plaintext by Listar -- -- File: messages Feb 4 10:05:30 paul kernel: Error: Illegal request -- (Sense key=0x05) Feb 4 10:05:30 paul kernel: Copy protection key exchange failure - Key not present -- (asc=0x6f, ascq=0x01) Feb 4 10:05:30 paul kernel: The failed "Report Key" packet command was: Feb 4 10:05:30 paul kernel: "a4 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 0c 04 00 " --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From Carsten.Koch@icem.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2001 12:26:06 +0100 From: Carsten Koch Cc: Linux-DVB Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: dvb 0.81 OSD-color bug-report Guido Fiala wrote: > > since i've upgraded to vdr 0.70 and dvb 0.81 i have observed a strange problem > with the OSD: > > After some time (even in activity - no EPG scan, OSD switched "off") the > colors of the OSD get typically pink only - "green" seems to be strongly > surpressed (but not fully gone). > > At first i got it by switching the OSD on during fast-playback instantly, but > now it comes without action only. (or maybe just during switching the OSD > "on"). > > If required i can give sample-screenshots. > Has someone else observed the same? I have. I am relieved to hear that I am not the only one. I believed it was possible my card is developing a hardware problem. However, when I reload the driver, the problem goes away. Carsten. --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From Carsten.Koch@icem.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2001 13:41:45 +0100 From: Carsten Koch Cc: dvb Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: Problems with vdr 0.7 and driver 0.81. Klaus Schmidinger wrote: > > Carsten Koch wrote: > > > > Since I installed vdr 0.7 and driver 0.81, the driver only > > works reasonably for about 4 hours after each reload. > > Immediadely after a reload, I can record, play back, switch > > channels, use the OSD just fine. > > > > After I leave the thing alone for a while, I see all kinds > > of strange effects. One of them has been described by Guido > > in his previous post. > > > > Another one is that vdr starts putting > > ERROR: channel not sync'ed (front.sync=0)! > > messages into /var/log/messages about once every 5 seconds > > and the driver starts putting messages like these > > kernel: commandrequest error > > kernel: dvb: filter shutdown error :0 > > kernel: outcommand error 1 > > kernel: commandrequest error > > kernel: dvb: ARM RESET > > kernel: dvb: filter shutdown error :0 > > kernel: dvb: filter shutdown error :65535 > > into /var/log/messages about once every 20 minutes. > > > > Needless to say that recording, etc. stops working of course > > once the system starts putting these messages into the log. > > > > Is anyone else seeing this? > > > > I am using 2 dvb-s cards and kernel 2.216. > > I also use 2 DVB cards (kernel 2.2.13). > I do get this error once every few days. > It must originate from the EPG scanner's attempt to switch channels. > The driver issues a 'commandrequest error' and from then on it > doesn't work any more. Reloading the driver cures it - until next time. > I don't know what I could change in VDR to avoid this... Here is an idea: Until the driver is stable enough to survive its normal use by vdr for a long time, we could write a startup script for vdr, that 1. loads the driver...... make insmod 2. waits for one minute.. sleep 60 3. brings up vdr......... vdr -v /video ... 4. reloads the driver.... make reload 5. goes back to step 2 above At the same time, we could change vdr, so it ends itself normally when it detects any error or when all of these conditions are met: * The current wall clock minute is 00 * The user has not pressed any remote control button during the previous hour * There has not been any svdrp traffic during the previous hour * vdr is not replaying or recording I know this is an ugly workaround, but I believe it would help a lot. It would not only work around the driver problems, it would also automatically restart vdr after a crash. What do you think? Carsten. --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From axelgruber2@gmx.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2001 13:44:17 +0100 (MET) From: Axel Gruber To: Carsten Koch Cc: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org, linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: dvb 0.81 OSD-color bug-report > I am relieved to hear that I am not the only one. > I believed it was possible my card is developing > a hardware problem. However, when I reload the > driver, the problem goes away. You are not the only one - i have the same problem ! -- Sent through GMX FreeMail - http://www.gmx.net --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From roh@convergence.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2001 17:53:55 +0100 (CET) From: Joachim 'roh' Steiger To: Guido Fiala Cc: Linux-DVB Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: maximum overlay-size of dvb? On Sun, 4 Feb 2001, Guido Fiala wrote: > It seems the Windows software coming with the Siemens card can do more than > 800x600 pixel for the overlay (e.g.1024x768) - is this a trick or really done > in hardware? the scaling would be done with the pci-businterface saa7146 this chip can only scale down what means you get 768x576 maximum a solution for you will be using the hardware-scaler on your grafics-board the saa7146 will then transfer the frames via busmaster into offscreen-graficcardram and the graficboard has to scale it while blitting it to the visible memory under linux you have no support for this mode in the dvb-driver because its a job for your grafic-driver regards roh -- Joachim "roh" Steiger roh@convergence.de Convergence Integrated Media GmbH http://www.convergence.de Rosenthaler Str. 51 fon: +49(0)30-72 62 06 77 D-10178 Berlin fax: +49(0)30-72 62 06 55 --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From bsch@dit-gmbh.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2001 21:30:55 +0100 (CET) From: bsch@dit-gmbh.de To: Carsten Koch Cc: dvb Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: Fix for vdr bug: repeat does not work with LIRC remote controls. > I wonder why nobody else reported this to Klaus or to me. > Is nobody using vdr with LIRC? > oh yes, i use it ! but i didn't recognize a difference, because autorepeat never worked with my remote controll. some silly quistion: would vdr use somtimes the .lircrc mechanism ? --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From clemens@root.at Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2001 23:55:06 +0100 From: Clemens Kirchgatterer Reply-To: clemens@linuxaustria.com To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] vdr-0.7 lirc-0.6.3pre4 linux-2.4.1 are there any known problems with this combination. all lirc testprogramms work but vdr does not! :-( i can see vdr connecting to lircd in syslog but it does not react on keypresses. i use the same lircd.conf file like in the earlier version, so this should be ok too! any suggestions? best regards ... clemens --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From clemens@root.at Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2001 02:18:51 +0100 From: Clemens Kirchgatterer Reply-To: clemens@linuxaustria.com To: "linux-dvb@linuxtv.org" Subject: [linux-dvb] dvb-0.8.1 & dvdplayer-0.3 & linux 2.4.1 just compiled dvdplayer-0.3 but i can't even authenticate the dvd ... warfare:/usr/local/bin # tstdvd /dev/dvd not Authenticated Request AGID [1]... AGID 3 Host sending challenge: 09 08 07 06 05 04 03 02 01 00 LU sent key1: FD 14 D4 74 2A Drive Authentic - using varient 0 LU sent challenge: AE 74 98 DB 9B 80 D3 B9 4E B5 Host sending key 2: 05 0E 7B 8B 75 DVD is authenticated Received Session Key: BE FC 5E 70 3E not Authenticated Could not read Disc Key not Authenticated in /var/log/messages i see: Feb 4 01:07:42 kernel: hdb: packet command error: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error } Feb 4 01:07:42 kernel: hdb: packet command error: error=0x54 Feb 4 01:07:42 kernel: ATAPI device hdb: Feb 4 01:07:42 kernel: Error: Illegal request -- (Sense key=0x05) Feb 4 01:07:42 kernel: Copy protection key exchange failure - Key not present -- (asc=0x6f, ascq=0x01) Feb 4 01:07:42 kernel: The failed "Send DVD Structure" packet command was: Feb 4 01:07:42 kernel: "ad 00 00 00 00 00 00 02 08 04 c0 00 " a problem with the ide-driver? any solutions? warm regards ... clemens --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From simon@baehrens.in-berlin.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2001 01:02:24 +0100 From: Simon Baehrens To: Linux-DVB Subject: [linux-dvb] Support for Pinnacle PCTV Sat Hello, I've the PCTV Sat card from Pinnacle. I've chosen it because of its lower price and its video-in on board. Some more information about it you can read on http://www.pinnaclesys.de/de/product.asp?product_id=521&page_id=2 (mostly in english). At this time I have to use the buggy windows software that came with the card. I would be very interessted in a linux solution. Is there already any development on the way? Or are there special problems? Thanks, Simon --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From gfiala@s.netic.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2001 18:58:38 +0100 From: Guido Fiala To: Linux-DVB Subject: [linux-dvb] dvb 0.81 OSD-color bug-report since i've upgraded to vdr 0.70 and dvb 0.81 i have observed a strange problem with the OSD: After some time (even in activity - no EPG scan, OSD switched "off") the colors of the OSD get typically pink only - "green" seems to be strongly surpressed (but not fully gone). At first i got it by switching the OSD on during fast-playback instantly, but now it comes without action only. (or maybe just during switching the OSD "on"). If required i can give sample-screenshots. Has someone else observed the same? --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From Carsten.Koch@icem.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2001 12:48:55 +0100 From: Carsten Koch To: dvb Subject: [linux-dvb] Problems with vdr 0.7 and driver 0.81. Since I installed vdr 0.7 and driver 0.81, the driver only works reasonably for about 4 hours after each reload. Immediadely after a reload, I can record, play back, switch channels, use the OSD just fine. After I leave the thing alone for a while, I see all kinds of strange effects. One of them has been described by Guido in his previous post. Another one is that vdr starts putting ERROR: channel not sync'ed (front.sync=0)! messages into /var/log/messages about once every 5 seconds and the driver starts putting messages like these kernel: commandrequest error kernel: dvb: filter shutdown error :0 kernel: outcommand error 1 kernel: commandrequest error kernel: dvb: ARM RESET kernel: dvb: filter shutdown error :0 kernel: dvb: filter shutdown error :65535 into /var/log/messages about once every 20 minutes. Needless to say that recording, etc. stops working of course once the system starts putting these messages into the log. Is anyone else seeing this? I am using 2 dvb-s cards and kernel 2.216. Carsten. --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From Klaus.Schmidinger@cadsoft.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2001 13:17:42 +0100 From: Klaus Schmidinger To: Linux-DVB Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: dvb 0.81 OSD-color bug-report Carsten Koch wrote: > > Guido Fiala wrote: > > > > since i've upgraded to vdr 0.70 and dvb 0.81 i have observed a strange problem > > with the OSD: > > > > After some time (even in activity - no EPG scan, OSD switched "off") the > > colors of the OSD get typically pink only - "green" seems to be strongly > > surpressed (but not fully gone). > > > > At first i got it by switching the OSD on during fast-playback instantly, but > > now it comes without action only. (or maybe just during switching the OSD > > "on"). > > > > If required i can give sample-screenshots. > > Has someone else observed the same? > > I have. > > I am relieved to hear that I am not the only one. > I believed it was possible my card is developing > a hardware problem. However, when I reload the > driver, the problem goes away. > > Carsten. So far I have never had a problem like that. Klaus -- _______________________________________________________________ Klaus Schmidinger Phone: +49-8635-6989-10 CadSoft Computer GmbH Fax: +49-8635-6989-40 Hofmark 2 Email: kls@cadsoft.de D-84568 Pleiskirchen, Germany URL: www.cadsoft.de _______________________________________________________________ --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From Klaus.Schmidinger@cadsoft.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2001 13:20:37 +0100 From: Klaus Schmidinger To: dvb Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: Problems with vdr 0.7 and driver 0.81. Carsten Koch wrote: > > Since I installed vdr 0.7 and driver 0.81, the driver only > works reasonably for about 4 hours after each reload. > Immediadely after a reload, I can record, play back, switch > channels, use the OSD just fine. > > After I leave the thing alone for a while, I see all kinds > of strange effects. One of them has been described by Guido > in his previous post. > > Another one is that vdr starts putting > ERROR: channel not sync'ed (front.sync=0)! > messages into /var/log/messages about once every 5 seconds > and the driver starts putting messages like these > kernel: commandrequest error > kernel: dvb: filter shutdown error :0 > kernel: outcommand error 1 > kernel: commandrequest error > kernel: dvb: ARM RESET > kernel: dvb: filter shutdown error :0 > kernel: dvb: filter shutdown error :65535 > into /var/log/messages about once every 20 minutes. > > Needless to say that recording, etc. stops working of course > once the system starts putting these messages into the log. > > Is anyone else seeing this? > > I am using 2 dvb-s cards and kernel 2.216. I also use 2 DVB cards (kernel 2.2.13). I do get this error once every few days. It must originate from the EPG scanner's attempt to switch channels. The driver issues a 'commandrequest error' and from then on it doesn't work any more. Reloading the driver cures it - until next time. I don't know what I could change in VDR to avoid this... Klaus -- _______________________________________________________________ Klaus Schmidinger Phone: +49-8635-6989-10 CadSoft Computer GmbH Fax: +49-8635-6989-40 Hofmark 2 Email: kls@cadsoft.de D-84568 Pleiskirchen, Germany URL: www.cadsoft.de _______________________________________________________________ --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From ujq7@rz.uni-karlsruhe.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2001 14:09:21 +0100 From: Andreas Peter To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Bcc: ujq7@rz.uni-karlsruhe.de Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: dvb 0.81 OSD-color bug-report On 2001.02.04 12:26:06 +0100 Carsten Koch wrote: > I have. > > I am relieved to hear that I am not the only one. > I believed it was possible my card is developing > a hardware problem. However, when I reload the > driver, the problem goes away. > > Carsten. I've also the same problems when switching to OSD in fast-forward playback mode. Another strange problem I have are recording disturbances: While watching TV without recording the picture is ok, but if I start recording the pictue blanks for a short moment and then there are sometimes disturbances and no sound. After stopping the recording the picture is again error-free with sound. (auf deutsch: im Bild sind plötzlich kleine Klötzchen, es sieht aus, als ob für die Dauer der Aufnahme die Schüssel leicht verstellt ist. Ich hatte das Problem bis jetzt nur mit Sendern auf Hot-Bird, z. B. TVN (da ist es nicht weiter tragisch, da ich eh kein polnisch verstehe), aber soweit ich mich erinnern kann tritt es erst seit der Ver. 0.8.1 auf) Gruß, Andreas --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From gfiala@s.netic.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2001 16:40:05 +0100 From: Guido Fiala To: Linux-DVB Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: WG: Re: korrupt MPEG2 Stream OT: Jetzt wo Handy-Telefonieren im Auto verboten ist, ist das wohl die Ausweichvariante ? ;-) >Ist aber bei mir daurch bedingt, daß ich das im Auto abspiele... und mein >Auto-Player kann nur MPEG1 :-) --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From gfiala@s.netic.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2001 10:50:19 +0100 From: Guido Fiala To: Linux-DVB Subject: [linux-dvb] maximum overlay-size of dvb? It seems the Windows software coming with the Siemens card can do more than 800x600 pixel for the overlay (e.g.1024x768) - is this a trick or really done in hardware? Ok, unless the broadcasters send at greater resolution it makes not much sense, but maybe ... --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From Klaus.Schmidinger@cadsoft.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2001 16:59:33 +0100 From: Klaus Schmidinger To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] NAPI - How? I'm thinking about converting VDR to the NAPI, but can't seem to find out how to best start doing this. Maybe somebody who already has experience with the NAPI can help me with these questions: - Do I have to compile the driver differently to use the NAPI? - Do I have to 'insmod' the driver differently? - Do I have to make any special compile time considerations when compiling VDR (i.e. do I need to 'define' any special macros)? - In VDR I am currently using the following calls: /dev/video - open("/dev/video", O_RDWR | O_NONBLOCK) - ioctl(videoDev, VIDIOCSPLAYMODE, &pmode) VID_PLAY_RESET VID_PLAY_CLEAR_BUFFER VID_PLAY_NORMAL VID_PLAY_PAUSE VID_PLAY_SLOW_MOTION - ioctl(videoDev, VIDIOCGCAP, &cap) - ioctl(videoDev, VIDIOCGMBUF, &mbuf) - ioctl(videoDev, VIDIOCMCAPTURE, &vm) - ioctl(videoDev, VIDIOCSYNC, &vm.frame) - ioctl(videoDev, VIDIOCGFBUF, &vb - ioctl(videoDev, VIDIOCSFBUF, &vb) - ioctl(videoDev, VIDIOCGWIN, &vw) - ioctl(videoDev, VIDIOCSWIN, &vw) - ioctl(videoDev, VIDIOCGPICT, &vp) - ioctl(videoDev, VIDIOCSPICT, &vp) - ioctl(videoDev, VIDIOCCAPTURE, Value ? &one : &zero) - ioctl(videoDev, VIDIOCSOSDCOMMAND, &dc) - ioctl(videoDev, VIDIOCGFRONTEND, &front) - ioctl(videoDev, VIDIOCSFRONTEND, &front) - read() - write() /dev/vbi - open("/dev/vbi", O_RDONLY) - ioctl(fsvbi, VIDIOCSBITFILTER, &filt) - ioctl(fsvbi, VIDIOCSSHUTDOWNFILTER, &filters[a].handle) - read() I assume that the NAPI equivalent of /dev/video is /dev/ost/video, but what about /dev/vbi? Are all these calls already available in the NAPI? I'm especially wondering about VID_PLAY_CLEAR_BUFFER. Thanks for any hints Klaus -- _______________________________________________________________ Klaus Schmidinger Phone: +49-8635-6989-10 CadSoft Computer GmbH Fax: +49-8635-6989-40 Hofmark 2 Email: kls@cadsoft.de D-84568 Pleiskirchen, Germany URL: www.cadsoft.de _______________________________________________________________ --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From Klaus.Schmidinger@cadsoft.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2001 17:42:58 +0100 From: Klaus Schmidinger To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: NAPI - How? Christian Schuld wrote: > > I only have done tuning with the new API so far, so i can only answer > questions regarding this topic. > > Am Sonntag 04 Februar 2001 16:59 schrieb Klaus Schmidinger: > > - Do I have to compile the driver differently to use the NAPI? > no. > > > - Do I have to 'insmod' the driver differently? > just use "make insmod" form the driver subdirectory. That would be the same as with the old API, right? > > - Do I have to make any special compile time considerations when > > compiling VDR (i.e. do I need to 'define' any special macros)? > no. > > > - ioctl(videoDev, VIDIOCSOSDCOMMAND, &dc) > for OSD you have to use the old API at the moment. I don't know if Ralph > planed someting like /dev/ost/osd? So does this mean that I can use the old and new API in parallel? I thought I had read that one could only use either the old or the new API?! Klaus -- _______________________________________________________________ Klaus Schmidinger Phone: +49-8635-6989-10 CadSoft Computer GmbH Fax: +49-8635-6989-40 Hofmark 2 Email: kls@cadsoft.de D-84568 Pleiskirchen, Germany URL: www.cadsoft.de _______________________________________________________________ --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From greg@ulima.unil.ch Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2001 18:20:20 +0100 From: Gregoire Favre To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: maximum overlay-size of dvb? On Sun, Feb 04, 2001 at 05:53:55PM +0100, Joachim 'roh' Steiger wrote: > the scaling would be done with the pci-businterface saa7146 > this chip can only scale down what means you get 768x576 maximum > a solution for you will be using the hardware-scaler on your grafics-board > the saa7146 will then transfer the frames via busmaster into > offscreen-graficcardram and the graficboard has to scale it while blitting > it to the visible memory > > under linux you have no support for this mode in the dvb-driver because > its a job for your grafic-driver One could use xawtv that has xv (I use it also with an Hauppauge WinTV) and my fullscreen is 1600x1200 which is very convenient because I don't have to change resolution for fullscreen ;-) I have never tried to run xawtv without my WinTV card... I hope that kvdr will sooner or later support it ;-) Greg ________________________________________________________________ http://ulima.unil.ch/greg ICQ:16624071 mailto:greg@ulima.unil.ch --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From Carsten.Koch@icem.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2001 18:51:25 +0100 From: Carsten Koch To: dvb Subject: [linux-dvb] Fix for vdr bug: repeat does not work with LIRC remote controls. Sorry I fixed this so late. I changed to a new remote control and to the new vdr version that had broken LIRC repeat code at the same time. So I assumed my new remote control did not have autorepeat. But it does. With the attached patch, vdr 0.7 also supports it. ;-) I wonder why nobody else reported this to Klaus or to me. Is nobody using vdr with LIRC? Carsten. -- Attached file included as plaintext by Listar -- -- File: repeat.patch --- VDR/remote.c Sun Feb 4 17:26:12 2001 +++ /wald/home/cko/linux/VDR/remote.c Sun Feb 4 17:26:00 2001 @@ -428,6 +428,7 @@ dsyslog(LOG_INFO, "LIRC remote control thread started (pid=%d)", getpid()); int FirstTime = 0; + int LastTime = 0; char buf[LIRC_BUFFER_SIZE]; char LastKeyName[LIRC_KEY_BUF]; @@ -451,14 +452,17 @@ continue; // repeat function kicks in after a short delay receivedData = receivedRepeat = true; } + LastTime = Now; WakeUp(); } } else if (receivedData) { // the last data before releasing the key hasn't been fetched yet if (receivedRepeat) { // it was a repeat, so let's make it a release - receivedRepeat = false; - receivedRelease = true; - WakeUp(); + if (time_ms() - LastTime > REPEATDELAY) { + receivedRepeat = false; + receivedRelease = true; + WakeUp(); + } } } else if (receivedRepeat) { // all data has already been fetched, but the last one was a repeat, so let's generate a release --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From Klaus.Schmidinger@cadsoft.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2001 20:51:30 +0100 From: Klaus Schmidinger To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Current version of VDR I have created the directory ftp://ftp.cadsoft.de/pub/people/kls/vdr into which I will be uploading newer versions of VDR while I am working on them. This shall allow those who want to try out the most recent version with the latest CVS driver early, before they are "officially" released (based on a released driver version). I won't be announcing each and every upload to that directory, so if you're interested simply look into it from time to time. Klaus -- _______________________________________________________________ Klaus Schmidinger Phone: +49-8635-6989-10 CadSoft Computer GmbH Fax: +49-8635-6989-40 Hofmark 2 Email: kls@cadsoft.de D-84568 Pleiskirchen, Germany URL: www.cadsoft.de _______________________________________________________________ --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From ulrichgierschner@t-online.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2001 14:26:26 +0100 From: Ulrich Gierschner Reply-To: ulrichgierschner@gmx.de To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: Problems with vdr 0.7 and driver 0.81. Am Son, 04 Feb 2001 schrieben Sie: > > Is anyone else seeing this? > > > > I am using 2 dvb-s cards and kernel 2.216. > > I also use 2 DVB cards (kernel 2.2.13). > I do get this error once every few days. perhaps you are using a slower vdr-box :) > It must originate from the EPG scanner's attempt to switch channels. > The driver issues a 'commandrequest error' and from then on it > doesn't work any more. Reloading the driver cures it - until next time. > I don't know what I could change in VDR to avoid this... Could I turn off the automatic EPG loading ? Ok, it would not be as userfriendly as it is now, but a not-hanging box is preferable, too.... -- Bis denn, Ulrich ---- --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From chris@sonnengesicht.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2001 17:29:35 +0100 From: Christian Schuld To: Klaus Schmidinger , linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: NAPI - How? I only have done tuning with the new API so far, so i can only answer questions regarding this topic. Am Sonntag 04 Februar 2001 16:59 schrieb Klaus Schmidinger: > - Do I have to compile the driver differently to use the NAPI? no. > - Do I have to 'insmod' the driver differently? just use "make insmod" form the driver subdirectory. > - Do I have to make any special compile time considerations when > compiling VDR (i.e. do I need to 'define' any special macros)? no. > - ioctl(videoDev, VIDIOCSOSDCOMMAND, &dc) for OSD you have to use the old API at the moment. I don't know if Ralph planed someting like /dev/ost/osd? > - ioctl(videoDev, VIDIOCGFRONTEND, &front) > - ioctl(videoDev, VIDIOCSFRONTEND, &front) for tuning you have to open: /dev/ost/sec ( for 22khz, volatage ) /dev/ost/qpskfe ( for frequency, symbolrate and fec ) /dev/ost/demux (for setting vpid and apid) and use the IOCTL of these devices. Hope this helps Christian --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From chris@sonnengesicht.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2001 17:14:48 +0100 From: Christian Schuld To: Guido Fiala , Linux-DVB Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: maximum overlay-size of dvb? I think in windows it is done with the scaling engine of your graphics board. If you own a ATI Mach 64 or the Matrox board you can use it under linux, too. Try "fbtv -M" (of course you have to setup the framebuffer device first ...) Christian Am Sonntag 04 Februar 2001 10:50 schrieb Guido Fiala: > It seems the Windows software coming with the Siemens card can do more than > 800x600 pixel for the overlay (e.g.1024x768) - is this a trick or really > done in hardware? > > Ok, unless the broadcasters send at greater resolution it makes not much > sense, but maybe ... --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From schoeller@gmx.at Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 10:31:26 +0100 From: Johannes Schoeller To: "Carsten Koch . dvb" Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: Problems with vdr 0.7 and driver 0.81. same with me. :( Johannes Schoeller ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carsten Koch" To: "dvb" Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2001 12:48 PM Subject: [linux-dvb] Problems with vdr 0.7 and driver 0.81. > Since I installed vdr 0.7 and driver 0.81, the driver only > works reasonably for about 4 hours after each reload. > Immediadely after a reload, I can record, play back, switch > channels, use the OSD just fine. > > After I leave the thing alone for a while, I see all kinds > of strange effects. One of them has been described by Guido > in his previous post. > > Another one is that vdr starts putting > ERROR: channel not sync'ed (front.sync=0)! > messages into /var/log/messages about once every 5 seconds > and the driver starts putting messages like these > kernel: commandrequest error > kernel: dvb: filter shutdown error :0 > kernel: outcommand error 1 > kernel: commandrequest error > kernel: dvb: ARM RESET > kernel: dvb: filter shutdown error :0 > kernel: dvb: filter shutdown error :65535 > into /var/log/messages about once every 20 minutes. > > Needless to say that recording, etc. stops working of course > once the system starts putting these messages into the log. > > Is anyone else seeing this? > > I am using 2 dvb-s cards and kernel 2.216. > > Carsten. > > > --- > Info: > To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. > > --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From ulrichgierschner@t-online.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2001 13:02:49 +0100 From: Ulrich Gierschner Reply-To: ulrichgierschner@gmx.de To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: Support for Pinnacle PCTV Sat Am Son, 04 Feb 2001 schrieben Sie: > Hello, Hi ! > I've the PCTV Sat card from Pinnacle. I've chosen it because of its lower price > and its video-in on board. Some more information about it you can read on > http://www.pinnaclesys.de/de/product.asp?product_id=521&page_id=2 (mostly in > english). > At this time I have to use the buggy windows software that came with the card. > I would be very interessted in a linux solution. Is there already any > development on the way? Or are there special problems? I think it is a rather big problem, because the pinnacle I've seen has nothing in common to the Hauppauge DVB. It is a One-Chip Card (I never saw something like that before, the F-Inputs are directly connected to one Chip in the middle of the Card - no explicit Tuner-Part.... As the "original" DVB driver aren't as stable as they should, I don't think there is a linux support in the near future. -- Bis denn, Ulrich ---- --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From j.czmok@gigabell.net Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2001 23:34:19 +0100 From: Jan-Ahrent Czmok To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] support a la kvdr question: can vdr be used with the "monitor" display instead of the external connector. i am using the hauppaugse only with the monitor, no external connector to another tv. gvideo and all other works, but vdr does only work (afaik) with external displays. kvdr is supposed to support that ? or will vdr will have this feature sometime(together with tuxview). Jan -- Jan Ahrent Czmok Network Operations / Network Implementation Jippii (Deutschland) GmbH http://www.de.jippii.com phone: +49 69 17084-716 --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From ulrichgierschner@t-online.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2001 22:45:10 +0100 From: Ulrich Gierschner Reply-To: ulrichgierschner@gmx.de To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] [vdr] skip to beginning of a record Hi ! How do I simply skip back to the beginning of a record made with vdr ? I read the manual twice but I did not find any hints except moving to the end :) -- Bis denn, Ulrich ---- --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From dave@dchapman.com Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 10:05:18 +0000 From: Dave Chapman To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Maximum number of PES filters - 8? I'm working on a program that decodes the teletext PES streams. This is working quite well now, and I can set multiple PES filters to simultaneously decode all teletext streams on the same transponder. However, there seems to be a problem setting more than 8 PES filters at the same time. If, for example I try and set 9 filters, DMX_SET_PES_FILTER returns SUCCESS all 9 times, but I am only receiving TS packets for the first 8 PIDs. I am creating 9 filehandles by opening /dev/ost/demux 9 times - is this the correct way of doing it? I understood that you could set up to 32 filters on a Siemens card. Am I mistaken? Is a buffer overflow happening somewhere? There are very few transponders with more than 8 channels with teletext, but they do exist (e.g. 11837h on Astra 19E), so this will cause complications with my application. Best wishes, Dave. --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From schoeller@gmx.at Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 11:20:55 +0100 From: Johannes Schoeller To: ulrichgierschner@gmx.de, linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: [vdr] skip to beginning of a record [ The following text is in the "Windows-1252" character set. ] [ Your display is set for the "ISO-8859-1" character set. ] [ Some characters may be displayed incorrectly. ] no easy way. the only way is to skip back "per minute" to the beginning. :( to klaus: i.d also love to have the feature that the playback "loops". so it won.t stop at the end - but restart. this is usefull if you stopped playback near the end (or you already saw it all). in this case you see a "flashing" picture, and playback stops. you have to be very fast and push the "minute back" button to "identify" the recording. so if playback would restart from the beginning this would help a lot. maybe this feature could be switchable. regards Johannes Schoeller ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ulrich Gierschner" To: Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2001 10:45 PM Subject: [linux-dvb] [vdr] skip to beginning of a record > Hi ! > > How do I simply skip back to the beginning of a record made with vdr ? > I read the manual twice but I did not find any hints except moving to the end :) > > -- > Bis denn, > > Ulrich > > ---- > > > --- > Info: > To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. > > --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From schoeller@gmx.at Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 11:23:56 +0100 From: Johannes Schoeller To: ulrichgierschner@gmx.de, linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: Problems with vdr 0.7 and driver 0.81. [ The following text is in the "Windows-1252" character set. ] [ Your display is set for the "ISO-8859-1" character set. ] [ Some characters may be displayed incorrectly. ] > Could I turn off the automatic EPG loading ? Ok, it would not be as > userfriendly as it is now, but a not-hanging box is preferable, too.... from the README (section SETUP): EPGScanTimeout = 5 The time (in hours) of user inactivity after which the DVB card in a single card system starts scanning channels to keep the EPG up-to-date. A value of '0' turns off scanning on a single card system. regards Johannes Schoeller --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From Carsten.Koch@icem.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2001 12:07:11 +0100 From: Carsten Koch To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: Problems with vdr 0.7 and driver 0.81. Johannes Schoeller wrote: > > > Could I turn off the automatic EPG loading ? Ok, it would not be as > > userfriendly as it is now, but a not-hanging box is preferable, too.... > > from the README (section SETUP): > > EPGScanTimeout = 5 The time (in hours) of user inactivity after which the > DVB card in a single card system starts scanning > channels > to keep the EPG up-to-date. > A value of '0' turns off scanning on a single card > system. That works for those lucky people who only have one DVB card. ;-) My problems started when I installed the second card. In a dual card system, the above variable is ignored and the seconday card scans all the time (unless it's recording). However, we should keep in mind that the bug is in the driver (or in the firmware). So, working around it by disabling a good and useful vdr feature is not my favorite solution. It would be best to get the driver stable. As long as the driver is not stable, even disabling the epg scan will only postpone the inevitable. I have seen the same problem after switching channels manually (admittedly, you have to switch hundreds of times for it to happen, but in the end it does happen). What do people think about my idea of reloading the driver every hour when vdr is idle? Carsten. --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From schoeller@gmx.at Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 12:25:42 +0100 From: Johannes Schoeller To: Carsten Koch , linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: Problems with vdr 0.7 and driver 0.81. > As long as the driver is not stable, even disabling the > epg scan will only postpone the inevitable. I have seen > the same problem after switching channels manually > (admittedly, you have to switch hundreds of times for > it to happen, but in the end it does happen). > > > What do people think about my idea of reloading the > driver every hour when vdr is idle? GREAT idea! i.d love to have this feature. it could even "solve" the problem of this "outcommand error problem" in combination with ci-cams. because when vdr can.t de- code the channel, it somtimes helps to reload the driver. sometimes vdr get killed. :( don.t know why. the problem is that this "feature ;)" is not reproduceable for me, and happens only one a while.... regards Johannes Schoeller --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From clemens@root.at Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2001 12:37:39 +0100 From: Clemens Kirchgatterer Reply-To: clemens@linuxaustria.com To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: Problems with vdr 0.7 and driver 0.81. > What do people think about my idea of reloading the > driver every hour when vdr is idle? better than nothing! ;-) warm regards ... clemens --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From rjkm@convergence.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 12:50:53 +0100 (CET) From: Ralph Metzler To: Dave Chapman Cc: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Maximum number of PES filters - 8? Dave Chapman writes: > I'm working on a program that decodes the teletext PES streams. This is > working quite well now, and I can set multiple PES filters to simultaneously > decode all teletext streams on the same transponder. > > However, there seems to be a problem setting more than 8 PES filters at the > same time. If, for example I try and set 9 filters, DMX_SET_PES_FILTER > returns SUCCESS all 9 times, but I am only receiving TS packets for the first > 8 PIDs. > > I am creating 9 filehandles by opening /dev/ost/demux 9 times - is this the > correct way of doing it? > > I understood that you could set up to 32 filters on a Siemens card. Am I > mistaken? Is a buffer overflow happening somewhere? > > There are very few transponders with more than 8 channels with teletext, but > they do exist (e.g. 11837h on Astra 19E), so this will cause complications > with my application. The number of PES filters is currently restricted to 8 inside the ARM code due to buffer memory and bandwidth considerations. I do not want to increase that before I am certain what causes the other problems. We see what happens otherwise, e.g.: People want OSD during playback, I warn them that it might cause problems, they forget about that and then complain about the problems ... But it is a bug that you can set the 9th filter and do not get an error message. I will look into that. Ralph --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From dave@dchapman.com Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 13:17:07 +0000 From: Dave Chapman To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Cc: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: Maximum number of PES filters - 8? On Monday 05 February 2001 11:50, Ralph Metzler wrote: > The number of PES filters is currently restricted to 8 inside the ARM > code due to buffer memory and bandwidth considerations. > I do not want to increase that before I am certain what causes the > other problems. No problem - I understand why you have done that. However, my aim is to add teletext support to VDR by caching all the teletext streams on the current transponder. The EPG software will be using some filters (how many?) for the EI data, VDR will set some itself when recording, which will not leave many for teletext. It seems a shame that we can't filter all the teletext streams - but I would place driver stability higher in the list of priorities than caching multiple teletext streams. Thanks, Dave. --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From js@convergence.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2001 13:21:01 +0100 From: Johannes Stezenbach To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: NAPI - How? Klaus Schmidinger wrote: > > So does this mean that I can use the old and new API in parallel? > I thought I had read that one could only use either the old or the new API?! Yes. Old and new API work in parallel at the moment, but support for the old (V4L-like) API will probably be removed in the future. Mixing old and new API calls for the same set of functions (e.g. tuning) makes no sense, though. Don't do it. Note that frame grabbing/overlay (and at the moment OSD) is still controlled via the V4L device /dev/video, because the new API does not address those functions. (/dev/ost/video is *not* the NAPI equivalent of /dev/video !) Documentation for the new API is here: http://www.linuxtv.org/developer/dvb_api.xml (and also, in some crude form in the doc/API/ directory of the driver distribution (the .xml files are really HTML)) Some examples for using the API are in the ost/src/ directory, look at the test* files. Johannes --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From Carsten.Koch@icem.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2001 14:33:48 +0100 From: Carsten Koch To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] OSD (was: Re: Maximum number of PES filters - 8?) Ralph Metzler wrote: .... > People want OSD during playback, I warn them that it might cause > problems, they forget about that and then complain about the problems ... that's not fair, Ralph! If an API exists, I find it reasonable if people use it. If that API has parameter limits that change from driver release to driver release, I find it reasonable if people complain when code that use to work suddenly does not. I also find it reasonable to expect that the API gives me an error code when I, for example, try to create an OSD window that is too large. Can you create a full-screen OSD window with the current driver? If not, does the ioctl return an error code or dies it simply not work? Or does it work sometimes and crashes the firmware after prolonged use? I think we all agree that the user needs some kind of on-screen feedback. I believe that my idea to (mis-)use teletext if we cannot get OSD fast/large/reliable enough was a bad idea. I apologize for pushing it. Of course, I was only searching for alternatives that cause no more problems. What are the alternatives? Is there a chance to get the existing OSD fast/large/reliable enough soon? If not: should we dismiss it altogether and look for other ways? Would people prefer an OSD that is fast/large/reliable, but replaces (rather than overlays) the entire video picture while it is active? Does the driver provide a suitable API that allows us to display one still video frame from a bitmap (symmetrical to VIDIOCMCAPTURE)? Would it be a good idea to handle the OSD like the Sky digibox? The Sky digibox provides two kinds of OSD: 1. a small, non-transparent overlay window that displays the current and next program title, a little bit of on-screen help, the current channel name, the time, etc. It is similar in size and location to the window vdr displays when you press OK during playback. Outside this window, the normal video continues to be shown. 2. a full-screen, non-transparent, non-overlay window that displays things that need more room, like the EPG, the channel lists, the setup,lists of favorite channels, etc. Normal video is not shown and audio is muted when this window is visible. I personally like the digibox OSD very much. It's EPG is much easier to use than vdr's EPG, as it simply has more room available, so it can show you a clear table with time on the X axis and channels on the Y axis. What do people think? Would that be useful? Ralph, what do you say: If the OSD is limited to a small, fixed, guaranteed size, would that make it fast and 100% stable? Also, would it be easy (unless it's already there) to provide the ioctl that is symmetrical to VIDIOCMCAPTURE? Klaus, would you find that attractive? Carsten. --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From Robert.Schneider@lotus.com Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 15:29:54 +0100 From: Robert.Schneider@lotus.com To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: OSD (was: Re: Maximum number of PES filters - 8?) Hi all, to use a still frame as a replacement for the OSD was something I was up to when I started the EPG stuff and I still think that's a good idea as it would allow to use high color-depth and more real-estated on the screen. One thing that should be taken in consideration for that is: When the OSD is used extensively that means that the driver will be switched into play mode back and forth. Is that something that could cause similiar issues in the driver as the ones that we all see with switching the OSD on and off? Regards, Robert --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From dave@dchapman.com Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 14:29:31 +0000 From: Dave Chapman To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: OSD On Monday 05 February 2001 13:33, Carsten Koch wrote: > Would people prefer an OSD that is fast/large/reliable, but > replaces (rather than overlays) the entire video picture while > it is active? Does the driver provide a suitable API that > allows us to display one still video frame from a bitmap > (symmetrical to VIDIOCMCAPTURE)? I have never tried it, but the documentation for the new API (in video.h) lists a function (VIDEO_STILLPICTURE) that displays an I-Frame. I guess that this is what you want. > Would it be a good idea to handle the OSD like the Sky digibox? > The Sky digibox provides two kinds of OSD: > > [Details deleted] I agree with this idea to a point. I love VDR's transparent menus, but agree that the flexibility of a large, full-screen EPG would be preferable to a smaller, transparent menu. A mixture of the two (using transparent menus as much as possible) should be the way to go. We shouldn't have to mute the sound when we go into full-screen mode though. My impression is that we are pushing the SIemens card to the limit with the range of features we want to implement simultaneously and in my opinion, Ralph's doing a good job. Regards, Dave. --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From Klaus.Schmidinger@cadsoft.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2001 15:31:07 +0100 From: Klaus Schmidinger To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: OSD (was: Re: Maximum number of PES filters - 8?) Carsten Koch wrote: > > Ralph Metzler wrote: > .... > > People want OSD during playback, I warn them that it might cause > > problems, they forget about that and then complain about the problems ... > > that's not fair, Ralph! > > If an API exists, I find it reasonable if people use it. > If that API has parameter limits that change from driver > release to driver release, I find it reasonable if people > complain when code that use to work suddenly does not. Be careful what you say, Carsten. Ralph made it very clear from the very start that replay and OSD was NOT designed to be used at the same time, but I "harassed" him long enough until he agreed to enable this to be done, noting that there might be picture distortions! I'd hate to see him disable this possibility again, just to get rid of comments like this (no offense, though). > I also find it reasonable to expect that the API gives me > an error code when I, for example, try to create an OSD > window that is too large. Can you create a full-screen > OSD window with the current driver? If not, does the ioctl > return an error code or dies it simply not work? Or does > it work sometimes and crashes the firmware after prolonged use? > > I think we all agree that the user needs some kind of > on-screen feedback. > > I believe that my idea to (mis-)use teletext if we cannot > get OSD fast/large/reliable enough was a bad idea. > I apologize for pushing it. Of course, I was only searching > for alternatives that cause no more problems. > > What are the alternatives? Is there a chance to get the > existing OSD fast/large/reliable enough soon? > If not: should we dismiss it altogether and look for other ways? > > Would people prefer an OSD that is fast/large/reliable, but > replaces (rather than overlays) the entire video picture while > it is active? Does the driver provide a suitable API that > allows us to display one still video frame from a bitmap > (symmetrical to VIDIOCMCAPTURE)? > > Would it be a good idea to handle the OSD like the Sky digibox? > The Sky digibox provides two kinds of OSD: > > 1. a small, non-transparent overlay window that displays > the current and next program title, a little bit of > on-screen help, the current channel name, the time, etc. > It is similar in size and location to the window vdr > displays when you press OK during playback. Outside > this window, the normal video continues to be shown. > > 2. a full-screen, non-transparent, non-overlay window that > displays things that need more room, like the EPG, > the channel lists, the setup,lists of favorite channels, etc. > Normal video is not shown and audio is muted when this > window is visible. > > I personally like the digibox OSD very much. It's EPG is > much easier to use than vdr's EPG, as it simply has more > room available, so it can show you a clear table with time > on the X axis and channels on the Y axis. > > What do people think? Would that be useful? > > Ralph, what do you say: If the OSD is limited to a small, > fixed, guaranteed size, would that make it fast and > 100% stable? Also, would it be easy (unless it's already > there) to provide the ioctl that is symmetrical to VIDIOCMCAPTURE? > > Klaus, would you find that attractive? Just a quick answer to your last question: I find an OSD that can only be used when I STOP replay unacceptable. I'd rather have it the way it currently is (with some picture distortions) than having to completely stop replay when bringing up the OSD. Klaus -- _______________________________________________________________ Klaus Schmidinger Phone: +49-8635-6989-10 CadSoft Computer GmbH Fax: +49-8635-6989-40 Hofmark 2 Email: kls@cadsoft.de D-84568 Pleiskirchen, Germany URL: www.cadsoft.de _______________________________________________________________ --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From dave@dchapman.com Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 15:17:13 +0000 From: Dave Chapman To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: OSD (was: Re: Maximum number of PES filters - 8?) On Monday 05 February 2001 14:31, Klaus Schmidinger wrote: > > [Details of OSD deleted] > > Klaus, would you find that attractive? > > Just a quick answer to your last question: I find an OSD that can only > be used when I STOP replay unacceptable. I'd rather have it the way it > currently is (with some picture distortions) than having to completely > stop replay when bringing up the OSD. > > Klaus I think for some functions - e.g. browsing the EPG - it would be reasonable to PAUSE/RESUME the replay of recordings whilst the EPG is being displayed. In any case, the benefit of your VDR software is the GPL - there is nothing to stop someone implementing a beautiful full-screen menu system for VDR if they want to. If people desire that (with the advantages and disadvantages it brings), and if it's technicaly possible, then why not? Regards, Dave. --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From Klaus.Schmidinger@cadsoft.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2001 16:50:24 +0100 From: Klaus Schmidinger To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: OSD (was: Re: Maximum number of PES filters - 8?) Dave Chapman wrote: > > On Monday 05 February 2001 14:31, Klaus Schmidinger wrote: > > > [Details of OSD deleted] > > > Klaus, would you find that attractive? > > > > Just a quick answer to your last question: I find an OSD that can only > > be used when I STOP replay unacceptable. I'd rather have it the way it > > currently is (with some picture distortions) than having to completely > > stop replay when bringing up the OSD. > > > > Klaus > > I think for some functions - e.g. browsing the EPG - it would be reasonable > to PAUSE/RESUME the replay of recordings whilst the EPG is being displayed. > > In any case, the benefit of your VDR software is the GPL - there is nothing > to stop someone implementing a beautiful full-screen menu system for VDR if > they want to. If people desire that (with the advantages and disadvantages > it brings), and if it's technicaly possible, then why not? I don't mean to keep anybody from implementing their favourite kind of OSD handling. All I'm saying is that *my personal* opinion ist that I want the OSD to be transparently "above" the video picture (no matter if it is a replayed recording or a live picture). I use the OSD e.g. to sometimes check if there is new email, and it would IMO be extremely annoying if I had to stop replaying every time I want to do that. But that need not keep others from doing it their way... Klaus -- _______________________________________________________________ Klaus Schmidinger Phone: +49-8635-6989-10 CadSoft Computer GmbH Fax: +49-8635-6989-40 Hofmark 2 Email: kls@cadsoft.de D-84568 Pleiskirchen, Germany URL: www.cadsoft.de _______________________________________________________________ --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From Carsten.Koch@icem.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2001 16:54:00 +0100 From: Carsten Koch To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: OSD (was: Re: Maximum number of PES filters - 8?) Klaus Schmidinger wrote: > > Carsten Koch wrote: .... > > If an API exists, I find it reasonable if people use it. > > If that API has parameter limits that change from driver > > release to driver release, I find it reasonable if people > > complain when code that use to work suddenly does not. > > Be careful what you say, Carsten. Ralph made it very clear > from the very start that replay and OSD was NOT designed to be > used at the same time, but I "harassed" him long enough until > he agreed to enable this to be done, I apologize. I do not remember reading these discussions (if they took place on this list), so my remarks shall be understood as remarks of a general nature. I also believe that Ralph is doing a very good job in general and in no way do I want my remarks to be understood as negative. In particular, I do not want to be a pain in the neck, I want to contribute constructive criticism and ideas for improvement. After all, in the not-too-distant future, the convergence driver will go into a commercial product, right? I would guess that more than 50% of all customers would return their set-top-box if it hangs every day like mine currently does. Carsten. --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From Klaus.Schmidinger@cadsoft.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2001 17:16:33 +0100 From: Klaus Schmidinger To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: support a la kvdr Jan-Ahrent Czmok wrote: > > question: > > can vdr be used with the "monitor" display instead of the external > connector. i am using the hauppaugse only with the monitor, no > external connector to another tv. > > gvideo and all other works, but vdr does only work (afaik) with > external displays. > > kvdr is supposed to support that ? or will vdr will have this feature > sometime(together with tuxview). 'kvdr' is the way to go here. I don't have plans to implement this into VDR, since VDR is meant to be used with a TV and a remote control. Klaus -- _______________________________________________________________ Klaus Schmidinger Phone: +49-8635-6989-10 CadSoft Computer GmbH Fax: +49-8635-6989-40 Hofmark 2 Email: kls@cadsoft.de D-84568 Pleiskirchen, Germany URL: www.cadsoft.de _______________________________________________________________ --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From polom@convergence.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2001 18:02:18 +0100 From: Szymon Polom To: Carsten Koch Cc: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: OSD (was: Re: Maximum number of PES filters - 8?) Hello, Carsten Koch wrote: > After all, in the not-too-distant future, the convergence driver > will go into a commercial product, right? Hmmm... I guess nobody is going to use this card in a new Set-Top-Box design. > I would guess that more than 50% of all customers would return > their set-top-box if it hangs every day like mine currently does. The special OSD vs. 2MB (and full PAL resolution) memory problem should not be a real limitation for a Set-Top-Box, which has also a graphics card. We will the solve the problem while using the graphics card for the OSD via DirectFB (www.directfb.org). So the conclusion is: no problem for us. Talking about stability: I would guess that convergence is not going to produce software which hangs a box like the manufacturer of your box did ;-). We do not have problems displaying a full featured EPG/OSD stuff on a video. Even half transparent or what ever... Please do not compare a driver and a solution without the possibility to check the solution. Bye... SP. -- Szymon Polom polom@convergence.de convergence integrated media GmbH http://www.convergence.de Rosenthaler Str. 51 fon: +49(0)30-72 62 06 68 D-10178 Berlin fax: +49(0)30-72 62 06 55 --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From Klaus.Schmidinger@cadsoft.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2001 18:32:41 +0100 From: Klaus Schmidinger To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: [vdr] skip to beginning of a record Johannes Schoeller wrote: > > no easy way. the only way is to skip back "per minute" to the beginning. :( > > to klaus: i.d also love to have the feature that the playback "loops". so it > won.t stop at the end - but restart. this is usefull if you stopped playback > near the end (or you already saw it all). in this case you see a "flashing" > picture, and playback stops. you have to be very fast and push the "minute back" > button to "identify" the recording. so if playback would restart from the > beginning this would help a lot. maybe this feature could be switchable. The colored keys in the "Recordings" menu currently implement "Play", "Delete", and "Summary". Since the green button is not used yet, we could assign it the "Rewind" function, which would start replay of the marked recording from the very beginning. Would that be acceptable? Klaus -- _______________________________________________________________ Klaus Schmidinger Phone: +49-8635-6989-10 CadSoft Computer GmbH Fax: +49-8635-6989-40 Hofmark 2 Email: kls@cadsoft.de D-84568 Pleiskirchen, Germany URL: www.cadsoft.de _______________________________________________________________ --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From martin@hammerschmid.com Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2001 19:40:27 +0100 From: Martin Hammerschmid To: linux-dvb Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: OSD (was: Re: Maximum number of PES filters - 8?) > > I think for some functions - e.g. browsing the EPG - it would be reasonable > > to PAUSE/RESUME the replay of recordings whilst the EPG is being displayed. > > > > In any case, the benefit of your VDR software is the GPL - there is nothing > > to stop someone implementing a beautiful full-screen menu system for VDR if > > they want to. If people desire that (with the advantages and disadvantages > > it brings), and if it's technicaly possible, then why not? > > I don't mean to keep anybody from implementing their favourite kind > of OSD handling. All I'm saying is that *my personal* opinion ist > that I want the OSD to be transparently "above" the video picture > (no matter if it is a replayed recording or a live picture). I use the > OSD e.g. to sometimes check if there is new email, and it would IMO be > extremely annoying if I had to stop replaying every time I want to do that. > I guess the OSD is a very important feature, especially for vdr. IMHO the most important feature still is the ability to replay somehting without any audio/video dropouts though. I think that nobody really cares when there is a lack of quality when the OSD is in use, so maybe it's possible to free some memory, while the OSD is not used, to increase the video buffer to avoid audio/video dropouts when replaying. I don't know if this is possible at all but it would be a compromise that might make all happy. Martin ========== mailto:martin@hammerschmid.com ========== =RSA-PGP-Key ID:0x81783FE7 DH-PGP-Key ID:0x6B66589A= ==================================================== MS-DOS: celebrating ten years of obsolescence --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From gfiala@s.netic.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 17:23:00 +0100 From: Guido Fiala To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: Problems with vdr 0.7 and driver 0.81. I have the outcommand-problem only if i load the driver via modules.conf (although i think i made it correctly). Now i have switched to loading the driver and vdr by a small script at system start, doing just the "make insmod" in the driver directory. Since that i only have the mentioned OSD-color-problem - and to state it clearly even during normal viewing, no recording, no playback, no EPG-scan. That the EPG-scan triggers the problem seems to indicate a simple timing problem or race condition - not? BTW, does "using the OSD during replay possible causing image disturbances" mean all-the-time or just while displaying/switching the OSD? with the latter i could live... --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From Klaus.Schmidinger@cadsoft.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2001 22:40:33 +0100 From: Klaus Schmidinger To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: Problems with vdr 0.7 and driver 0.81. Guido Fiala wrote: > > [...] > BTW, does "using the OSD during replay possible causing image disturbances" > mean all-the-time or just while displaying/switching the OSD? > with the latter i could live... Dirsturbances, if any, are caused only when the OSD contents changes (or, initially when it comes up). A "static" OSD won't cause any dirsturbances. Klaus -- _______________________________________________________________ Klaus Schmidinger Phone: +49-8635-6989-10 CadSoft Computer GmbH Fax: +49-8635-6989-40 Hofmark 2 Email: kls@cadsoft.de D-84568 Pleiskirchen, Germany URL: www.cadsoft.de _______________________________________________________________ --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From paul@paulbristow.net Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2001 23:16:16 +0000 From: Paul Bristow To: "linux-dvb@linuxtv.org" Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: OSD (was: Re: Maximum number of PES filters - 8?) Martin Hammerschmid wrote: > > > > I think for some functions - e.g. browsing the EPG - it would be reasonable > > > to PAUSE/RESUME the replay of recordings whilst the EPG is being displayed. > > > > > > In any case, the benefit of your VDR software is the GPL - there is nothing > > > to stop someone implementing a beautiful full-screen menu system for VDR if > > > they want to. If people desire that (with the advantages and disadvantages > > > it brings), and if it's technicaly possible, then why not? > > > > I don't mean to keep anybody from implementing their favourite kind > > of OSD handling. All I'm saying is that *my personal* opinion ist > > that I want the OSD to be transparently "above" the video picture > > (no matter if it is a replayed recording or a live picture). I use the > > OSD e.g. to sometimes check if there is new email, and it would IMO be > > extremely annoying if I had to stop replaying every time I want to do that. > > > > I guess the OSD is a very important feature, especially for vdr. > IMHO the most important feature still is the ability to replay > somehting without any audio/video dropouts though. > I think that nobody really cares when there is a lack of quality > when the OSD is in use, so maybe it's possible to free some > memory, while the OSD is not used, to increase the video buffer > to avoid audio/video dropouts when replaying. Can we have the option to scale to half-resolution video when OSD is active? > I don't know if this is possible at all but it would be a > compromise that might make all happy. > > Martin -- Paul Email: paul@paulbristow.net Web: http://paulbristow.net ICQ: 11965223 --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From Margit.Fiegert@t-online.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2001 00:39:03 +0100 From: Margit Fiegert To: Klaus Schmidinger Cc: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] vdr "Speicherfehler" known? Hi all, Klaus Schmidinger schrieb: > ... > All I'm saying is that *my personal* opinion ist > that I want the OSD to be transparently "above" the video picture > (no matter if it is a replayed recording or a live picture). I use the > OSD e.g. to sometimes check if there is new email, and it would IMO be > extremely annoying if I had to stop replaying every time I want to do that. Very much agreed. I`m very happy with the current solution! To adress the crashes of vdr (not the driver!)(vdr0.68, driver 0.8, 1 card): I have them every 2-3 days. When this happens I get "Speicherfehler" at the console. I start vdr via a small perl script. Restarting vdr is enough, restarting the driver is not necessary! If at that time a timer was recording, recording continues until the drive is full. That means I have a very long but fine recording. EPG-scan is enabled, but often isn`t active at time of the crash. Do you know of this "Speicherfeheler" or should I try to look closer? When reading the last mails I was a bit confused since it sounds like there are only driver problems. I think we should try to look close and distinguish the diffrent problems. Carsten: > As long as the driver is not stable, even disabling the > epg scan will only postpone the inevitable. I have seen > the same problem after switching channels manually > (admittedly, you have to switch hundreds of times for > it to happen, but in the end it does happen). Happy recording Michael --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From Carsten.Koch@icem.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2001 10:14:11 +0100 From: Carsten Koch Cc: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: Problems with vdr 0.7 and driver 0.81. Johannes Schoeller wrote: > > excuse me when i misunderstood anything, but, does anyone really care about > little disturbances in the picuture when the OSD is displayed? i think in that > moment the OSD is moer important than the "tv screen". My opinion is: small glitches in the video while the OSD is up are totally acceptable to me. As I said in another mail: for the "big" screens that I do not normally bring up when I want to continue watching the current program or recording (Channel list, EPG, recordings list, setup, etc.) I could even live with no video at all in the background and I would even prefert no video if that buys me more screen space so I can save some scrolling. > i thought that there were problems during "normal" playback because of the > implementation of the OSD. who cares about the little dropouts when displaying > the "time bar (->"OK")" during playing. > does anyone care? or has this discussion gone in a "wrong" direction?!? I would prioritize it as follows: o Top priority: stability. Today, the combination vdr 0.7, dvb 0.8.1, 2 DVB-S cards does not work stable enough for me to be left alone for 24 hours and make a single sucessful unattended recording. With vdr 0.63, the same PC and O/S and 1 DVB-S card, this worked just fine. Problems I am observing today are: * After 4 - 10 hours (even if the system is unattended) vdr starts putting messages like the following into /var/log/messages: Feb 5 19:57:56 wald5 vdr[429]: ERROR: channel 20 not sync'ed (front.sync=0)! Feb 5 19:57:57 wald5 vdr[429]: ERROR: channel 20 not sync'ed (front.sync=20)! Once this starts, there are about 10 of these messages per minute. At the same time, the driver starts putting messages like the following into /var/log/messages: Feb 5 19:33:12 wald5 kernel: commandrequest error Feb 5 19:33:12 wald5 kernel: dvb: filter shutdown error :50822 Feb 5 19:33:14 wald5 kernel: outcommand error 1 Feb 5 19:33:14 wald5 kernel: commandrequest error Feb 5 19:33:15 wald5 kernel: dvb: ARM RESET Feb 5 19:33:15 wald5 kernel: dvb: filter shutdown error :50822 Feb 5 19:33:15 wald5 kernel: dvb: filter shutdown error :65535 Once this starts, there are about 3 RESET messages per minute. * About once a week, vdr just crashes with no message in the log. o Second priority: error-free recordings. * The "audio glitches" problem has been discussed here often. I can only add that I am seeing (hearing) it sometimes on channels other than ARD and ZDF as well. Not very frequently, though. * When dvb starts giving me "ARM RESET" messages, recordings no longer work at all. Yesterday I deleted 5 directories with empty recordings that vdr created during the last weekend. o Third priority: all user interface functions work. * When I do a fast forward, vdr stops responding until the recording reaches its end. What do you think? Are you seeing the same problems? Are the priorities the same for you? Carsten. --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From Margit.Fiegert@t-online.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2001 00:53:35 +0100 From: Margit Fiegert To: linux-dvb Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: Fix for vdr bug: repeat does not work with LIRC remote controls. Hi, > I wonder why nobody else reported this to Klaus or to me. > Is nobody using vdr with LIRC? of course I do, almost every day. But I never had repeat (should I without a patch?) though I missed it sometimes. With irw i see about two lines a second, increasing a counter each time until the key is released. So this side looks good. Any idea how to activate such a nice feature? I have some other real problem for some time now: It`s almost impossible to stop fast forward via lirc. Stopping fast back works, not always - but much better. Does somebody else see this also? irw output looks good here too, so the problem can`t be LIRC. I didn`t post here because 'cause I didn`t look for the problem closer myself yet. But maybe somebody has the solution already. I`m still using vdr 0.68, dvb 0.8, lirc 0.6.0. By the way: watched my first DVD this weekend. Subtitles crashed but everything I needed worked great. Many thanks to Matjaz. Michael --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From Carsten.Koch@icem.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2001 01:29:28 +0100 From: Carsten Koch To: dvb Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: Fix for vdr bug: repeat does not work with LIRC remote controls. Margit Fiegert wrote: .... > But I never had repeat (should I without a patch?) though I missed it > sometimes. Yes, repeat should work with vdr 0.7 + my patch if and when irw shows that it works with your remote control. For some people it may even work without my patch - depending on the timing. > I have some other real problem for some time now: > It`s almost impossible to stop fast forward via lirc. Stopping fast back > works, not always - but much better. Does somebody else see this also? I am. I have not yet taken a closer look either. Carsten. --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From schoeller@gmx.at Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 09:05:58 +0100 From: Johannes Schoeller To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: [vdr] skip to beginning of a record > The colored keys in the "Recordings" menu currently implement > "Play", "Delete", and "Summary". Since the green button is not > used yet, we could assign it the "Rewind" function, which would > start replay of the marked recording from the very beginning. > > Would that be acceptable? great idea! i would apreciate that! thanx! regards Johannes Schoeller --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From schoeller@gmx.at Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 09:14:33 +0100 From: Johannes Schoeller To: Klaus Schmidinger , linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: Problems with vdr 0.7 and driver 0.81. excuse me when i misunderstood anything, but, does anyone really care about little disturbances in the picuture when the OSD is displayed? i think in that moment the OSD is moer important than the "tv screen". i thought that there were problems during "normal" playback because of the implementation of the OSD. who cares about the little dropouts when displaying the "time bar (->"OK")" during playing. does anyone care? or has this discussion gone in a "wrong" direction?!? regards Johannes Schoeller ----- Original Message ----- From: "Klaus Schmidinger" To: Sent: Monday, February 05, 2001 10:40 PM Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: Problems with vdr 0.7 and driver 0.81. > Guido Fiala wrote: > > > > [...] > > BTW, does "using the OSD during replay possible causing image disturbances" > > mean all-the-time or just while displaying/switching the OSD? > > with the latter i could live... > > Dirsturbances, if any, are caused only when the OSD contents changes (or, initially > when it comes up). A "static" OSD won't cause any dirsturbances. > > Klaus > -- > _______________________________________________________________ > > Klaus Schmidinger Phone: +49-8635-6989-10 > CadSoft Computer GmbH Fax: +49-8635-6989-40 > Hofmark 2 Email: kls@cadsoft.de > D-84568 Pleiskirchen, Germany URL: www.cadsoft.de > _______________________________________________________________ > > > --- > Info: > To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. > > --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From berto@fatamorgana.com Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2001 14:45:10 +0100 From: Roberto Arcomano To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Netsystem works with Linux Hi all, one week ago, after enormous problems and paranoias, I got Netsystem working under Linux. There are some point to keep on mind: 1-) There must be a multicast entry in /etc/dvbd.conf like that: "filter_1 64 MAC" to receive Multicast data. Usually you have to set the "filter_0 451 MAC" for Unicast. But Multicast is necessary for receiving Unicast packets. 2-) You need to modify dvbd.c, adding that: Under readcfg() function you need to change "filter_0" area in that: if (strcmp (v, "filter_0") == 0) { if (s != NULL) { unsigned char ip[4]; dvbcfg[0].status = ON ; dvbcfg[0].filter.data[0] = 0x3eff ; dvbcfg[0].filter.pid = (__u16) atoi (s) ; dvbcfg[0].filter.mode = 0x0c ; if (ipget (ip, network_device)) { fprintf(stderr,"Can't get local ip address. Stop.\n") ; return -1 ; } syslog (LOG_NOTICE, "Local ip is %u:%u:%u:%u\n", ip[0], ip[1], ip[2], ip[3]); dvbcfg[0].filter.data[1] = (0xM6 << 8) | 0x0000 ; dvbcfg[0].filter.data[2] = (0xM5 << 8) | 0x00f0 ; dvbcfg[0].filter.data[6] = (0xM4 << 8) | 0x00ff ; dvbcfg[0].filter.data[7] = (0xM3 << 8) | 0x00ff ; dvbcfg[0].filter.data[8] = (0xM2 << 8) | 0x00ff ; dvbcfg[0].filter.data[9] = (0xM1 << 8) | 0x00ff ; setmac (ip) ; } else { dvbcfg[1].status = OFF ; } } where M1:M2:M3:M4:M5:M6 is MAC address of a Netsystem registration. Note: In filter mask I specify a filter like this: FF : FF : FF : FF : F0 : 00 If I used a 48 bit filter mask my card would give me packets only for few seconds, while using a larger bit filter mask it, costantly, gives me packets. I don't know why, Maybe someone could help me understand. I didn't attach a diff file cause you need to change MAC address as your own and cause modifies are very few ones. 3-) After that you can receive packets costantly from dvb card. So now we need to manage VPN service downloading it (you can search at yahoo the so called "PPTP client linux"), but we also need to PATCH our pppd to support VPN communication with Netsystem server (Microsoft) (you can find info at PPTP pages or doc...). Personally I use PPTP-LINUX-1.0.2 with pppd 2.3.8 patched and with kernel 2.2.16 on RedHat 6.2. At the end you need to add am entry like: "login" * "password" * in /etc/ppp/chap-secrets and /etc/ppp/pap-secrets files, where login and password are same as from Netsystem registration. 4-) After get VPN working you have to block ACK packets that Linux send to Netsystem answering to all packets you can sniff from dvb0. This cause, in point 2-), we set bit filter mask to ff:ff:ff:ff:f0:00, so Linux has to answer to all packets it receives. I use a little script that, when I created the VPN, add a rule to firewall (with ipchains command) to allowing enter Linux TCP/IP stack (from dvb0 interface) ONLY right packets, which ones I asked for. Also it is necessary to create a default route to VPN interface to be able to ask ALL Internet to Netsystem. Following scripts I used: **** /root/bin/vpn **** ifconfig ppp1 down rm --force /var/lock/LCK.ttya0 kill -9 `cat /var/run/ppp1.pid` rm --force /var/run/ppp1.pid route del default route add default ppp0 killall -9 pptp rm --force /var/run/pptp/* /bin/sleep 3 /root/bin/vpn1 /bin/sleep 7 /root/bin/vpn2 ******************** **** /root/bin/vpn1 **** /sbin/pptp vpn.netsystem.com debug user USER ******************** **** /root/bin/vpn2 **** GATEWAY=`route|grep "ppp1"|cut -c 1-16` /sbin/route del 212.31.242.97 /sbin/route del 212.31.242.98 /sbin/route del 212.31.242.99 route add $GATEWAY dev ppp0 /bin/sleep 1 /sbin/route add DNSSERVER1 dev ppp0 /sbin/route add DNSSERVER2 dev ppp0 /sbin/route del default /sbin/route add default dev ppp1 /sbin/ipchains -F /sbin/ipchains -X IP=`/root/bin/getip` /sbin/ipchains -A input -i dvb0 -d ! $IP -j DENY ********************* Where: -) I intended to use ppp0 as Internet modem interface and ppp1 as VPN interface -) You can call "vpn" only cause it shutdown the service (if needed) and it restarts it calling vpn1 and vpn2 -) I usually insert my DNSSERVER1 and DNSSERVER2 in ppp0 interface cause I don't want to use VPN to solve names, it is stupid!! Anyway, you can delete them from vpn scripts and you can add them once at ppp0 startup... -) USER is the user from Netsystem registration form -) You need to control that VPN is properly working, making a "ping" and controlling in ppp0 interface (by sniffing with Ethereal or Tcpdump) that VPN is sending the incapsulate data packets for EACH PING, otherwise you need to restart VPN. My system is: AMD ATHLON 600 MHz, CHIPSET VIA686 196 MB RAM HDD 13 GB WinTV Hauppage dvb card with Siemens 0.8.1 drivers Linux kernel 2.2.16 on RedHat 6.2 PPTP-Linux 1.0.2 with pppd 2.3.8 (patched) I think I have no other info to add. Hoping it could be useful.... Bye Roberto Arcomano --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From berto@fatamorgana.com Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2001 18:15:07 +0100 From: Roberto Arcomano To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: Netsystem works with Linux Well, you need to use a valid MAC address (from that of SkyStar2, Netsystem DVB card) you have subscribed before at http://css.netsystem.com Roberto Dave Cost wrote: > Can you use any MAC address registration and userid/password or you have to > subscribe? > > Dave. --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From matjaz.thaler@guest.arnes.si Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2001 19:48:51 +0100 From: Matjaz Thaler To: Margit Fiegert Cc: linux-dvb Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: Fix for vdr bug: repeat does not work with LIRC remote controls. [ The following text is in the "iso-8859-2" character set. ] [ Your display is set for the "ISO-8859-1" character set. ] [ Some characters may be displayed incorrectly. ] Margit Fiegert wrote: > By the way: watched my first DVD this weekend. Subtitles crashed but > everything I needed worked great. Many thanks to Matjaz. I have fixed the problem with subtitles and DVB driver 0.81. The dvdplayer version 0.31 is available at: http://www2.arnes.si/~mthale1/index.html#DVD Matjaz --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From streeke@iae.nl Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2001 23:36:50 +0100 From: Elbert Streek To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] [linux-dvb]Re:dvb 0.81 OSD-color bug-report I have encountered the same problem but cannot reliably reproduce the error. Elbert --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From streeke@iae.nl Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2001 00:17:14 +0100 From: Elbert Streek To: Linux DVB - mailing list Subject: [linux-dvb] vdr 0.7, dvb0.8.1: problem with recording scrambled channels With the newest VDR version 0.7 i am able to record not scrambled channels like CNN and ARD, but i cannot record for example the scrambled dutch channel NED 1,2 and 3. I use an IRDETO smart-card. The strange thing is that i can watch live TV but i cannot record those channels anymore. Has someone an idea about the this problem? Elbert --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From martin@hammerschmid.com Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2001 14:13:22 +0100 From: Martin Hammerschmid To: linux-dvb Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: dvb 0.81 OSD-color bug-report Guido Fiala wrote: > > since i've upgraded to vdr 0.70 and dvb 0.81 i have observed a strange problem > with the OSD: > > After some time (even in activity - no EPG scan, OSD switched "off") the > colors of the OSD get typically pink only - "green" seems to be strongly > surpressed (but not fully gone). > > At first i got it by switching the OSD on during fast-playback instantly, but > now it comes without action only. (or maybe just during switching the OSD > "on"). > > If required i can give sample-screenshots. > Has someone else observed the same? The same once happened to me with the latest cvs driver and vdr-0.71pre4. after reloading the driver and restarting vdr the problem was gone and so far I never saw it again ... Martin ========== mailto:martin@hammerschmid.com ========== =RSA-PGP-Key ID:0x81783FE7 DH-PGP-Key ID:0x6B66589A= ==================================================== The Magic of Windows: Turns a 486 back into a PC/XT. --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From zagnimp@aom.bt.co.uk Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2001 10:31:57 +0000 From: Matt To: pauld@hutch.com.au Cc: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: best TV card to buy? Hi Paul, Hauppauge is currently working on a sky digi box PC card thingy I think it is due for release in late 2001 maybe Jan 2002. The problem I think most people have with Sky is that it uses an internal PSTN modem I think at lower than your 56k v9x modem, when people use its SkyOpen for email etc the modem is used even for obtaining data. Until Sky opens up its Sats for broadcasting data along with its Video then things may start happening. But like EON (europeonline) the bandwidth will be shared and as the BSkyB UK subscribers are a lot (5,051,00) the download bandwidth will be reduced to a mear PSTN modem maybe less than now. Now they released a report on a new service (I think in the Czech Republic from CESky Telecom). If this uses the Sat bandwidth for download then again its more useage over a shared link. Most subscibers here I think use the Siemens or Hauppauge cards (they are almost identical). via an old analouge dish. http://www.hauppauge.co.uk/html/DVBs.htm Sky is also resticted I think to broadcasting obligations so an upload to the sat link is could also be out of the question. But I am unsure about this anyway I think they would need to replace the dishes anyway if they were going to offer sat upload. That would be of masive investment on their part. Perhaps someone here would have some more info on this anyway its my 2 peas worth. Regards Matt Paul Duran wrote: > Hi all, > > I'm looking to build a PVR and extra functionality > (see media-box.org).. I'd like to do this under linux > and have seen the dvb project. > > What would be the best video card and/or tv card to > use for this purpose? > > I'm currently living in the UK and would probably be > feeding input from the 'second tv' output on my sky > digibox. > > Any suggestions? > > Also, I have heard some talk about realtime encoding > of mpeg4/divx/opendivx.. Would a Duron 800 processor > be capable of this task? > > kind regards, > Paul Duran > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 > a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ > > --- > Info: > To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From dave@dchapman.com Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2001 11:00:48 +0000 From: Dave Chapman To: Matt Cc: pauld@hutch.com.au, linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: best TV card to buy? Matt wrote: > > Hi Paul, > > Hauppauge is currently working on a sky digi box PC card thingy > I think it is due for release in late 2001 maybe Jan 2002. Do you have any more details on this? Where did you hear about it? It it a DVB receiver with Videoguard CAM (my dreams come true, but unlikely), or a card that can control an external digibox and encode it's analogue output? Regards, Dave. --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From Carsten.Koch@icem.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2001 12:26:06 +0100 From: Carsten Koch To: pauld@hutch.com.au Cc: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: best TV card to buy? Hi Paul, Paul Duran wrote: > > Hi all, > > I'm looking to build a PVR and extra functionality > (see media-box.org).. I'd like to do this under linux > and have seen the dvb project. > > What would be the best video card and/or tv card to > use for this purpose? > > I'm currently living in the UK and would probably be > feeding input from the 'second tv' output on my sky > digibox. > > Any suggestions? the video-related focus in this mailing list is on direct recording of the digital MPEG stream that comes from the satellite. The 'second tv' output on your sky digibox is an analog output. To re-convert that to digital video, you would need a frame grabber card, such as the kfir card, which has also been discussed on this mailing list, see the archive at http://linuxtv.org/mailinglists/linux-dvb/threads.html The kfir card now also has its own mailing list, see the archive at http://linuxtv.org/mailinglists/mpeg2/threads.html However, as the Sky signal already comes as a digital MPEG stream from the satellite, you will lose both time and quality if you use your digibox to decompress it and the kfir card to re-compress it. It would be much better to use the dvb card and a suitable CAM (is there one for the Sky viewing card?) to record the original data directly using Klaus Schmidinger's excellent vdr program. If you find a solution for direct recording (without decompression and re-compression), please post it to this list. I know several people who would be very interested. > Also, I have heard some talk about realtime encoding > of mpeg4/divx/opendivx.. Would a Duron 800 processor > be capable of this task? Where have you heard that? Can you post a URL? I would be very interested. Last I heard was, that it takes about a day to encode an hour of divx on a fast system. Carsten. --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From zagnimp@aom.bt.co.uk Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2001 15:43:40 +0000 From: Matt To: Dave Chapman Cc: pauld@hutch.com.au, linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: best TV card to buy? Dave Chapman wrote: > Matt wrote: > > > > Hi Paul, > > > > Hauppauge is currently working on a sky digi box PC card thingy > > I think it is due for release in late 2001 maybe Jan 2002. > > Do you have any more details on this? Where did you hear about it? > > It it a DVB receiver with Videoguard CAM (my dreams come true, but > unlikely), or a card that can control an external digibox and encode > it's analogue output? > > Regards, > > Dave. Hi Dave, I called hauppauge a while ago inquiring on the supply of cards on a personal basis (normal dvb cards ones) and I mentioned of a linux interest together with who produces an SDK for the cards in general. They mentioned that there was I think it was technotrend or someone. As a general interest question I also mentioned if there was a Digi card.... and then they mentioned that one was in test release later on this year. Thats all I have at present but with their know how etc I think it would be an easy task with permissions from Sky to decrypt the signal of cause (maybe type in your card subscription number could be a way to go for decryption plus another key. Now does Hauppauge produce the cards or is it Siemens that cut the cards and Hauppauge markets them in general as they are generaly the same. As you can see with 5 million subscribers to Sky and say 20% may have PC's thats a nice market to be in. If you could get all those users to use the Box/Card for Dialup then thats a nice market too. What percentage are linux users well I think it could be 5 - 10% of them maybe ? Regards Matt --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From Carsten.Koch@icem.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2001 20:46:08 +0100 From: Carsten Koch Cc: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: Problems with vdr 0.7 and driver 0.81. Klaus Schmidinger wrote: > > Carsten Koch wrote: > > > > [...] > > * When I do a fast forward, vdr stops responding until the > > recording reaches its end. > > Works fine for me. Is there absolutely no reaction to any remote control > command? What happens if you press "Play" (i.e. the "Up" key) while in > fast forward mode? I think I found the problem. I had not enabled DMA mode on my video disk, so the system was simply too busy to react on the remote control keys durinf fast forward. hdparm -d 1 /dev/hd? solved the problem for me. To all others who are also seeing the same problem: Please let me know if this solves it for you, too. Carsten. --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From axelgruber2@gmx.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 23:36:21 +0100 From: Axel Gruber To: streeke@iae.nl Cc: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: concurrent recording and play-out > One interesting feature is missing in de VDR application: concurrent > recording and play-out. In the source code I found some hints that this > feature is not implemented because the DVB driver does not support it. > My questions are: > - is an omission in the driver > - is it a firmware issue? > - is it the hardware that does not support concurrent recording and > play-out? > If it is a driver issue than I am willing to support changes in the > driver but the source code is very unclear to me. I´m also Intersted in this Feature ! - At this Moment i use 2 DVB-CARD´s to Record and Watch at the same time. A Friend makes a WINDOWS Software for these Card´s - he sayed to me that also the WINDOWS-Driver doesn´t support this feature. :-( Ok - so long... Axel Gruber --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From mocm@convergence.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 18:19:42 +0100 (CET) From: Marcus O.C. Metzler To: Guido Fiala Cc: Linux-DVB Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: no more glitches - pity but not :-( Guido Fiala writes: > >Guido Fiala wrote: > >> It seems that with dvb 0.81 vdr 0.7 and going to PES has finally > >> eliminated the recording glitches and audio problem for me! > >> > >> At least so far i did'nt observe it anymore, great. > > > >Which channels did you check? > >Have you for instance tried ARD, ZDF, 3sat? > > Ok, you are right with ARD i could reproduce it instantly, but at > least i have no longer glitches with Pro7,Sat1,Vox. > (That is no flash-frames & audio-latency) > > But still at all channels the frame-skipping problem. > (Are these frames not in the recorded stream or are they just > not played? If they were'nt recorded - were got they lost?) The Frames are all there. Unfortunately, the Hardware configuartion of the card forces one to use methods to extract the stream data, which result in badly muxed streams. So that any audio glitch is a audio buffer underrun and any video glitch is a video buffer underrun. You can fix the files, if you use a remuxer. I just added a version of mplex (from the bbmpeg package) to the mpegtools directory on the CVS server. I adjusted the program for linux and added a demuxer, so that you can call the program with just the muxed MPEG file you get from the card. Take a look at mplex --help for the muxing options. In the case of a file from the card use mplex -t MPEG2. If there are any problems, please tell me. I haven't tested it much. > > I wonder - can it be a problem with the encoding side, > that the broadcasters doesn't conform to the standard? The problem is that transport stream muxing can be done differently from program stream muxing. So that the PES you extract from a transport stream are not muxed correctly. .E.g transport stream: APES1.1 VPES1.1 VPES1.1 VPES1.2 VPES1.2 APES1.3 VPES1.4 APES2.1 APES2.1 VPES1.5 program stream: APES1 APES2 VPES1 where APES1 is audio PES packet 1 with the parts in APES1.1 - APES1.2 and the same for video. In this simple non realistic example, you could get a video underrun, because the second audio PES in the program stream is written before the first video PES. We don't get any information about the TS packet order from the card, so we can't put out the packets in the correct order. And remuxing in the driver is at the moment not possible, at least not in an efficient way. Just look at mplex and the time and resources it uses. I hope that helps everybody to understand the problem. Marcus --------------------------------------------------------------------- Dr. Marcus Metzler mocm@netcologne.de http://www.metzlerbros.de mocm@convergence.de http://www.convergence.de Convergence Integrated Media GmbH Rosenthaler Str. 51 D-10178 Berlin --------------------------------------------------------------------- --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From dave@dchapman.com Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 17:36:51 +0000 From: Dave Chapman To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Announcing dvbtext-0.1- a simple teletext decoder An early release of a short program I've written to decode DVB teletext pages is available at: http://www.linuxstb.org/dvbtext/ When you run it, it spools all the teletext pages as "vtx" files into a directory. You can then use an external program to view the pages - there are links to a couple of such programs, including a Java applet on the above page. Instructions for it's use are in the README file included in the (source-only) distribution. I've also included my channels.conf for Astra 19 which includes the Teletext PIDS for some of the channels. This is useful with Klaus's latest (unofficial) release of VDR - currently 0.71pre2. The interesting features are that it can simultaneously record multiple teletext streams into different directories (currently up to 8 - a safety limit imposed by Ralph) and that it can also access the teletext pages of some (but not all) encrypted channels. This shows that some encrypted channels leave their teletext streams in the clear. Enjoy, Dave. --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From gfiala@s.netic.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 18:03:11 +0100 From: Guido Fiala To: Linux-DVB Subject: [linux-dvb] no more glitches! ;-) It seems that with dvb 0.81 vdr 0.7 and going to PES has finally eliminated the recording glitches and audio problem for me! At least so far i did'nt observe it anymore, great. Many thanks! --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From Klaus.Schmidinger@cadsoft.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2001 19:22:50 +0100 From: Klaus Schmidinger To: Linux DVB - mailing list Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: vdr 0.7, dvb0.8.1: problem with recording scrambled channels Elbert Streek wrote: > > With the newest VDR version 0.7 i am able to record not scrambled > channels like CNN and ARD, but i cannot record for example the scrambled > dutch channel NED 1,2 and 3. > I use an IRDETO smart-card. The strange thing is that i can watch live > TV but i cannot record those channels anymore. > > Has someone an idea about the this problem? Have you been able to record these channels with earlier versions if the driver and/or VDR? Are you sure the PNR is set correctly and that these channels' 'Ca' parameter ist set to the number of the card that can decode it ('1' being /dev/video0). Klaus -- _______________________________________________________________ Klaus Schmidinger Phone: +49-8635-6989-10 CadSoft Computer GmbH Fax: +49-8635-6989-40 Hofmark 2 Email: kls@cadsoft.de D-84568 Pleiskirchen, Germany URL: www.cadsoft.de _______________________________________________________________ --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From Klaus.Schmidinger@cadsoft.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2001 19:26:33 +0100 From: Klaus Schmidinger To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: Problems with vdr 0.7 and driver 0.81. Carsten Koch wrote: > > [...] > * When I do a fast forward, vdr stops responding until the > recording reaches its end. Works fine for me. Is there absolutely no reaction to any remote control command? What happens if you press "Play" (i.e. the "Up" key) while in fast forward mode? I assume this is a problem with your remote control and/or LIRC. Klaus -- _______________________________________________________________ Klaus Schmidinger Phone: +49-8635-6989-10 CadSoft Computer GmbH Fax: +49-8635-6989-40 Hofmark 2 Email: kls@cadsoft.de D-84568 Pleiskirchen, Germany URL: www.cadsoft.de _______________________________________________________________ --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From Klaus.Schmidinger@cadsoft.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2001 19:17:48 +0100 From: Klaus Schmidinger To: Linux-DVB Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: no more glitches! ;-) Guido Fiala wrote: > > It seems that with dvb 0.81 vdr 0.7 and going to PES has finally > eliminated the recording glitches and audio problem for me! > > At least so far i did'nt observe it anymore, great. Which channels did you check? Have you for instance tried ARD, ZDF, 3sat? Klaus -- _______________________________________________________________ Klaus Schmidinger Phone: +49-8635-6989-10 CadSoft Computer GmbH Fax: +49-8635-6989-40 Hofmark 2 Email: kls@cadsoft.de D-84568 Pleiskirchen, Germany URL: www.cadsoft.de _______________________________________________________________ --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From Klaus.Schmidinger@cadsoft.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2001 19:35:18 +0100 From: Klaus Schmidinger To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: vdr "Speicherfehler" known? Margit Fiegert wrote: > > Hi all, > > Klaus Schmidinger schrieb: > > ... > > All I'm saying is that *my personal* opinion ist > > that I want the OSD to be transparently "above" the video picture > > (no matter if it is a replayed recording or a live picture). I use the > > OSD e.g. to sometimes check if there is new email, and it would IMO be > > extremely annoying if I had to stop replaying every time I want to do that. > > Very much agreed. I`m very happy with the current solution! > > To adress the crashes of vdr (not the driver!)(vdr0.68, driver 0.8, 1 > card): > I have them every 2-3 days. When this happens I get "Speicherfehler" at > the console. I start vdr via a small perl script. > > Restarting vdr is enough, restarting the driver is not necessary! > If at that time a timer was recording, recording continues until the > drive is full. That means I have a very long but fine recording. > EPG-scan is enabled, but often isn`t active at time of the crash. > > Do you know of this "Speicherfeheler" or should I try to look closer? Any additional information you can come up with would be appreciated. I do have an occasional "segmentation fault" every few weeks, but with errors that rare it is pretty hard to find the cause. Maybe you have more luck in finding it that I had. Klaus -- _______________________________________________________________ Klaus Schmidinger Phone: +49-8635-6989-10 CadSoft Computer GmbH Fax: +49-8635-6989-40 Hofmark 2 Email: kls@cadsoft.de D-84568 Pleiskirchen, Germany URL: www.cadsoft.de _______________________________________________________________ --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From dieter@hofrichter.at Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 21:11:43 +0100 From: Dieter Hofrichter To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] vdr + teletext + encrypted channels I use vdr-0.71pre4 and the dvb driver from the cvs from 6.2.2001. I can watch teletext on not encrypted channels, but not on encrypted channels. If i stop vdr on an encrypted channel and restart vdr, i can watch teletext on that channel. When i change the channel now, teletext only works on not encrypted channels. Any ideas? Thanks to Mr. Schmidinger and Mr. Metzler for their great work. PS. some teletext PIDs (channel.conf format): ORF1:12692:h:0:22000:160:161:165:1:13001 ORF2:12692:h:0:22000:500:501:505:1:13007 ZDF:11954:h:0:27500:110:120:130:0:28006 3sat:11954:h:0:27500:210:220:230:0:28007 Sat.1:12480:v:0:27500:1791:1792:34:0:46 RTL:12188:h:0:27500:163:104:32:0:12003 RTL2:12188:h:0:27500:166:128:68:0:12020 Super RTL:12188:h:0:27500:165:120:65:0:12040 --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From dave@dchapman.com Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 21:00:07 +0000 From: Dave Chapman To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: vdr + teletext + encrypted channels On Wednesday 07 February 2001 20:11, Dieter Hofrichter wrote: > I use vdr-0.71pre4 and the dvb driver from the cvs from 6.2.2001. I can > watch teletext on not encrypted channels, but not on encrypted channels. If > i stop vdr on an encrypted channel and restart vdr, i can watch teletext on > that channel. When i change the channel now, teletext only works on not > encrypted channels. > > Any ideas? > Thanks to Mr. Schmidinger and Mr. Metzler for their great work. I'll leave others to (hopefully) explain what you are experiencing. However, one temporary solution (if possible) is to use another, unencrypted channel on the same transponder to access the teletext - e.g. for ORF1, add the following line to your channels.conf: TW1 (ORF1 Text):12692:h:0:22000:166:167:165:0:13013 Thanks for the PIDs! Best wishes, Dave. --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From michael-ring@t-online.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2001 22:55:52 +0100 From: Michael Ring To: Elbert Streek , linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: vdr 0.7, dvb0.8.1: problem with recording scrambled channels Elbert Streek wrote: > > With the newest VDR version 0.7 i am able to record not scrambled > channels like CNN and ARD, but i cannot record for example the scrambled > dutch channel NED 1,2 and 3. > I use an IRDETO smart-card. The strange thing is that i can watch live > TV but i cannot record those channels anymore. > > Has someone an idea about the this problem? > > Elbert > > --- > Info: > To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. I have exactly the same problem; Recording of non-encrypted channels works fine, trying to record a crypted channel does not work. I am using dvb 0.81 & vdr 0.7 & vdr 0.71beta4. The channels.conf file is from vdr distribution I can view encrypted channels, but when I try to record the message is No free DVB-Device to record Cheers, Michael --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From Margit.Fiegert@t-online.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2001 23:07:18 +0100 From: Margit Fiegert To: linux-dvb Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: ffwd-problem Klaus Schmidinger schrieb: > > Carsten Koch wrote: > > > > [...] > > * When I do a fast forward, vdr stops responding until the > > recording reaches its end. > > Works fine for me. Is there absolutely no reaction to any remote control > command? What happens if you press "Play" (i.e. the "Up" key) while in > fast forward mode? It seems to me that there is no difference between the buttons. If you press many times, there is a chance to get ffwd stoped sometimes. > I assume this is a problem with your remote control and/or LIRC. Since irw running in parallel reacts perfectly to the buttons, I doubt that this is a lirc problem. Having written this, I wanted to double check. I had to restart the dvb driver :-(. !!! Now guess what: no problem at all currently. ??? I`m very curious how long that stays that way. (Yes I am sure, there were massive problems with ffwd for at least several weeks for me). By the way, there are at least two of us seeing this. But as I said, don`t take it as a complaint, just wanted to know if I`m alone with that! Margit Fiegert wrote: > I didn`t post here 'cause I didn`t look for the problem closer > myself yet. But maybe somebody has the solution already. Gruß Michael --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From Klaus.Schmidinger@cadsoft.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2001 23:45:18 +0100 From: Klaus Schmidinger To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: vdr 0.7, dvb0.8.1: problem with recording scrambled channels Michael Ring wrote: > > Elbert Streek wrote: > > > > With the newest VDR version 0.7 i am able to record not scrambled > > channels like CNN and ARD, but i cannot record for example the scrambled > > dutch channel NED 1,2 and 3. > > I use an IRDETO smart-card. The strange thing is that i can watch live > > TV but i cannot record those channels anymore. > > > > Has someone an idea about the this problem? > > > > Elbert > > > > --- > > Info: > > To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. > > I have exactly the same problem; Recording of non-encrypted channels > works fine, trying to record a crypted channel does not work. I am using > dvb 0.81 & vdr 0.7 & vdr 0.71beta4. The channels.conf file is from vdr > distribution > > I can view encrypted channels, but when I try to record the message is > > No free DVB-Device to record If you're using the channels.conf as it comes with the VDR archive then some encrypted channels (Premiere World) will be set for DVB device '2' (since that's the one in my configuration that can actually receive PW). Please make sure the 'Ca' parameter of the encrypted channels you want to record from are set to '1' if you have only one DVB card. Klaus -- _______________________________________________________________ Klaus Schmidinger Phone: +49-8635-6989-10 CadSoft Computer GmbH Fax: +49-8635-6989-40 Hofmark 2 Email: kls@cadsoft.de D-84568 Pleiskirchen, Germany URL: www.cadsoft.de _______________________________________________________________ --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From Andrew.Stevens@comlab.ox.ac.uk Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2001 00:07:34 +0000 From: Andrew Stevens To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Announce/request for samples... For people who'd like to transcode captured video the latest release 1.3b3 of the mjpegtools might be of interest. (mjpeg.sourceforge.net) The relevant highlights are: - MPEG2 encoding including interlaced video and SVCD compliant streams suitable for burning to CD and playback on SVCD/DVD players. - Patched ac3dec/mpeg2dec to decode for re-encoding. However, I can only say "might" be of interest because I can't test the tools against Program streams extracted from a DTV card. Some kind person put a few brief samples on their web site a while back but I seem to have lost the email giving the address. Also, as I understand it the DTV cards can also be used to play back MPEG2 (ps2av_pes < mympeg2PS.mpg > /dev/video ? ). However, I presume the cards are fairly inflexible (full resolution streams only?) so trying to use them to playback (say) half-resolution MPEG or SVCD streams isn't possible... Andrew --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From michael-ring@t-online.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2001 00:55:53 +0100 From: Michael Ring To: Klaus Schmidinger , linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: vdr 0.7, dvb0.8.1: problem with recording scrambled channels > > Michael Ring wrote: > > > > Elbert Streek wrote: > > > > > > With the newest VDR version 0.7 i am able to record not scrambled > > > channels like CNN and ARD, but i cannot record for example the scrambled > > > dutch channel NED 1,2 and 3. > > > I use an IRDETO smart-card. The strange thing is that i can watch live > > > TV but i cannot record those channels anymore. > > > > > > Has someone an idea about the this problem? > > > > > > Elbert > > > > > > --- > > > Info: > > > To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. > > > > I have exactly the same problem; Recording of non-encrypted channels > > works fine, trying to record a crypted channel does not work. I am using > > dvb 0.81 & vdr 0.7 & vdr 0.71beta4. The channels.conf file is from vdr > > distribution > > > > I can view encrypted channels, but when I try to record the message is > > > > No free DVB-Device to record > > If you're using the channels.conf as it comes with the VDR archive then > some encrypted channels (Premiere World) will be set for DVB device '2' > (since that's the one in my configuration that can actually receive PW). > Please make sure the 'Ca' parameter of the encrypted channels you want to > record from are set to '1' if you have only one DVB card. > Tnx, that solved my problem! I misunderstood the documentation and thougt that '2' means card-slot2 for the CI-Interface and not 2nd DVB-Card. Stupid me! Thanks for the answer. Michael --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From fatal_2@yahoo.com Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 01:22:53 -0800 (PST) From: Paul Duran Reply-To: pauld@hutch.com.au To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] best TV card to buy? Hi all, I'm looking to build a PVR and extra functionality (see media-box.org).. I'd like to do this under linux and have seen the dvb project. What would be the best video card and/or tv card to use for this purpose? I'm currently living in the UK and would probably be feeding input from the 'second tv' output on my sky digibox. Any suggestions? Also, I have heard some talk about realtime encoding of mpeg4/divx/opendivx.. Would a Duron 800 processor be capable of this task? kind regards, Paul Duran __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From streeke@iae.nl Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2001 10:23:57 +0100 From: Elbert Streek To: Linux DVB - mailing list Subject: [linux-dvb] concurrent recording and play-out One interesting feature is missing in de VDR application: concurrent recording and play-out. In the source code I found some hints that this feature is not implemented because the DVB driver does not support it. My questions are: - is an omission in the driver - is it a firmware issue? - is it the hardware that does not support concurrent recording and play-out? If it is a driver issue than I am willing to support changes in the driver but the source code is very unclear to me. Regards, Elbert Streek --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From ms@citd.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 20:26:19 +0100 (MET) From: Matthias Schniedermeyer To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] mplex #Include The "new" mplex-tool in mpegtools is "buggie" With "xmovie" the produced stream works great. Replayed with "the Hardware" there is an Audio/Video Offset of more than 1 Second. (Audio is much to late) and at the beginning there are some second where the sound is "jumpy" As i can't explain it in english, the rest is in german Ich habe die "Test"-Clips schon sehr of gesehen. Und ich hatte beim Testen das Gefuehl das das gehoert nichts mit dem gesehen zu tun hat. Als ob man Pro-7 schaut und den Ton von einem anderen Sender hat. Liegt wahrscheinlich am grossen Offset das das Gehirn die "Informationsfluesse" als "unrelated" einstuft) "Die besten" Ergebnisse (bis auf Offset-Probleme), hatte ich bisher mit "dem anderen" mplex-Programm (In dem Packet heisst, das was du verbaut hast, "mplexhi" und das andere "mplexlo", mplexlo ist zudem wesentlich fixer und man muesste nur das Problem mit dem Offset loesen.) Bis denn -- Real Programmers consider "what you see is what you get" to be just as bad a concept in Text Editors as it is in women. No, the Real Programmer wants a "you asked for it, you got it" text editor -- complicated, cryptic, powerful, unforgiving, dangerous. --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From suamor@gmx.net Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 01:19:08 +0100 From: Reinhard Katzmann To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: mplex Hi! My first post, still I tried something complex: A translation ;-) On Thu, Feb 08, 2001 at 08:26:19PM +0100, Matthias Schniedermeyer wrote: > #Include > > > > The "new" mplex-tool in mpegtools is "buggie" > > With "xmovie" the produced stream works great. Replayed with "the > Hardware" there is an Audio/Video Offset of more than 1 Second. (Audio is > much to late) and at the beginning there are some second where the sound > is "jumpy" > > As i can't explain it in english, the rest is in german > > Ich habe die "Test"-Clips schon sehr of gesehen. Und ich hatte beim Testen > das Gefuehl das das gehoert nichts mit dem gesehen zu tun hat. Als ob man > Pro-7 schaut und den Ton von einem anderen Sender hat. Liegt > wahrscheinlich am grossen Offset das das Gehirn die "Informationsfluesse" > als "unrelated" einstuft) I've seen the "Test"-Clips many times. While testing I had the feeling the output I heared had nothing to do with what I've seen. It's like you watch Pro-7 (german channel) and listen to the sound of another channel. This is probably related to the big offset that the mind classiefies the "information flows" as "unrelated". > "Die besten" Ergebnisse (bis auf Offset-Probleme), hatte ich bisher mit > "dem anderen" mplex-Programm (In dem Packet heisst, das was du verbaut > hast, "mplexhi" und das andere "mplexlo", mplexlo ist zudem wesentlich > fixer und man muesste nur das Problem mit dem Offset loesen.) I had "the best" results (except to the offset problems) with "the other" mplex program (the name of the program in the package which you have build (I won't translate this word originally ;-) is "mplexhi" and the other one "mplexlo", moreover mplexlo is considerbly quicker and you only had to solve the offset problem). Best regards, Reinhard -- E-Mail: reinhard@suamor.de New GnuPG Public Key available on request Projekte: Datenbank und -schnittstelle für einen Fledermausroboter Datenbankanbindung und Demonstrationsserver für Pincity -- Attached file included as plaintext by Listar -- -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Weitere Infos: siehe http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE6gzd8TlancrI0irQRAuD2AKDEfeTtJen/KeCUigx40ELrpm4uugCg2Aw4 FlHUjfX4S3f1iTioIqR370g= =WwjY -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From nuclear@stargate.iuf.net Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 12:20:09 +0200 (EET) From: Denis Fedorishenko To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] 2.4.1-ac8 dvb_mmap failed! I upgrade kernel from 2.4.1-ac2 to 2.4.1-ac8 After loading dvbd i see in logs Feb 9 12:02:07 stargate dvbd[2118]: starting Feb 9 12:02:07 stargate kernel: dvb: dvb_mmap failed! Feb 9 12:02:07 stargate dvbd[2118]: Local ip is 195:178:140:132 Feb 9 12:02:07 stargate kernel: dvb: dvb_mmap failed! Feb 9 12:02:07 stargate dvbd[2118]: ioctl VSFRONTEND: Operation not permitted Feb 9 12:02:07 stargate dvbd[2118]: exiting Feb 9 12:02:07 stargate kernel: dvb: dvb_mmap failed! Feb 9 12:02:07 stargate dvbd[2118]: ioctl SHUTDOWN[0]: Operation not permitted And after this module dvb not respond to rmmod and others Configuration in kernel is one to one (identical) What's happened? (btw after make reload and others i see record buffer is full) Thanks Denis Fedorishenko Sysadmin of Sev. dept. of MUH --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From gfiala@s.netic.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 17:51:12 +0100 From: Guido Fiala To: Linux-DVB Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: no more glitches - pity but not :-( >Guido Fiala wrote: >> It seems that with dvb 0.81 vdr 0.7 and going to PES has finally >> eliminated the recording glitches and audio problem for me! >> >> At least so far i did'nt observe it anymore, great. > >Which channels did you check? >Have you for instance tried ARD, ZDF, 3sat? Ok, you are right with ARD i could reproduce it instantly, but at least i have no longer glitches with Pro7,Sat1,Vox. (That is no flash-frames & audio-latency) But still at all channels the frame-skipping problem. (Are these frames not in the recorded stream or are they just not played? If they were'nt recorded - were got they lost?) I wonder - can it be a problem with the encoding side, that the broadcasters doesn't conform to the standard? --- BTW, commenting out the most frequent informative printk's in dvb.c made vdr much more responsive. --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From ms@citd.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 10:40:19 +0100 (MET) From: Matthias Schniedermeyer To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] BIG FAT BUG in "new" mplex #include The open-call for the "out"-File is missing the "Truncate"-Flag. Bis denn -- Real Programmers consider "what you see is what you get" to be just as bad a concept in Text Editors as it is in women. No, the Real Programmer wants a "you asked for it, you got it" text editor -- complicated, cryptic, powerful, unforgiving, dangerous. --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From axelgruber2@gmx.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 12:43:16 +0100 From: Axel Gruber To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] XSO-8859-1?Q?More_than_1_CI-CAMXs_in_a_System_with_2_or_more_DVB-S_CARDXs? Hello to everybody.. At the moment i have 3 DVB-S card´s in my SYSTEM - all 3 CARD´s works fine - but there is a problem: I have to connect the CI-CAM slot to the card with the highest Number ID in the SYSTEM - this is the only way to to get the CI-CAM working. - If i connect the CI to one of the other 2 CARDS the CAM works for a short time and then then the CAM stop´s working and i have to reload the DRIVER. Is there any chance to modify the driver in a way to cupport the CI-CAM at each of the installed CARD´s ? I also have a SECA-CI - and i want to connect it at the second CARD in the system but with the same result - it only works at the moment - at the CARD with the highes ID I have also tested it with Klaus Schmiedinger - with the same result. --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From Margit.Fiegert@t-online.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 19:58:06 +0100 From: Margit Fiegert To: linux-dvb Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: Problems with vdr 0.7 and driver 0.81. Hello, Carsten Koch schrieb: > > hdparm -d 1 /dev/hd? > > solved the problem for me. > > To all others who are also seeing the same problem: > Please let me know if this solves it for you, too. Of course it did - thanks a lot. Build in a second big disk (140GB now :-) ) some time ago, and forgot to configure it right. That explains why it suddenly worked again - depending on which disk the recording has been stored, because the old one is configured with dma. Thanks, Michael --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From danl@dnt.ro Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 22:40:48 +0200 From: Dan dnt To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] CAM question I am going to buy an Aston CAM. Rumors say that the new Aston 1.04 or 1.05 (EUROCAM) is not working with Siemens PC- DVB. Anyone tested until now? Do I have to buy the old 1.03 cam? What do you suggest? --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From markus128@gmx.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 10:09:21 +0100 (MET) From: Markus Schwierz To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] probs with driver 0.8.1 (make insmod) Hello, when i try to make insmod with the driver 0.8.1 i get the following error messages: ... sync ( \ insmod i2c-core.o; \ insmod videodev.o; \ insmod saa7146_core.o mode=0; \ insmod saa7146_v4l.o; \ insmod VES1893.o; \ insmod VES1820.o; \ insmod dmxdev.o; \ insmod dvb_demux.o; \ insmod dvb.o init_chan=1; \ insmod tuner.o; \ ifconfig dvb0 192.168.4.1; \ ) videodev.o: unresolved symbol request_module dvb.o: unresolved symbol video_register_device dvb.o: unresolved symbol video_unregister_device SIOCSIFADDR: Kein passendes Gerät gefunden dvb0: unknown interface: Kein passendes Gerät gefunden make: *** [insmod] Error 255 bash-2.04# I made make and makedev.napi in the driver direcory an got no error messages so far. My system is Suse 7.0 with kernel 2.2.16 and the Siemens dvbs card. The older driver versions (0.7.x - 0.8.0) work without any problems. Has anybody an idea what i've done wrong? Markus -- Sent through GMX FreeMail - http://www.gmx.net --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From Carsten.Koch@icem.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 00:57:45 +0100 From: Carsten Koch To: dvb Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: Problems with vdr 0.7 and driver 0.81. Carsten Koch wrote: > > Klaus Schmidinger wrote: .... > > I also use 2 DVB cards (kernel 2.2.13). > > I do get this error once every few days. > > It must originate from the EPG scanner's attempt to switch channels. > > The driver issues a 'commandrequest error' and from then on it > > doesn't work any more. Reloading the driver cures it - until next time. > > I don't know what I could change in VDR to avoid this... > > Here is an idea: > Until the driver is stable enough to survive its normal use > by vdr for a long time, we could write a startup script for > vdr, that > 1. loads the driver...... make insmod > 2. waits for one minute.. sleep 60 > 3. brings up vdr......... vdr -v /video ... > 4. reloads the driver.... make reload > 5. goes back to step 2 above > > At the same time, we could change vdr, so it ends itself > normally when it detects any error or when all of these > conditions are met: > * The current wall clock minute is 00 > * The user has not pressed any remote control button > during the previous hour > * There has not been any svdrp traffic > during the previous hour > * vdr is not replaying or recording > > I know this is an ugly workaround, but I believe it would help > a lot. It would not only work around the driver problems, it > would also automatically restart vdr after a crash. OK, I made a tiny VDR modification and a corresponding shell script as described above. The combination works great for me. So far, it has allowed me to use vdr without any need for manual restarts. Also, for the first time in weeks, all my recordings worked. I spent very little time on the patch, so I'm sure it leaves a lot of room for improvement, but it makes me happy as it is. Here is the patch (vdr 0.71pre4): --- VDR/vdr.c Sun Feb 4 20:41:24 2001 +++ /wald/home/cko/linux/VDR/vdr.c Sat Feb 10 15:47:17 2001 @@ -218,6 +218,7 @@ cReplayControl *ReplayControl = NULL; int LastChannel = -1; int PreviousChannel = cDvbApi::CurrentChannel(); + time_t busy_time = time(NULL); while (!Interrupted) { // Channel display: @@ -231,6 +232,7 @@ if (!Menu) { cTimer *Timer = cTimer::GetMatch(); if (Timer) { + busy_time = time(NULL); if (!cRecordControls::Start(Timer)) { //TODO need to do something to prevent the timer from hitting over and over again... } @@ -326,8 +328,14 @@ } if (!*Interact && !cRecordControls::Active()) RemoveDeletedRecordings(); + else + busy_time = time(NULL); + if (time(NULL) > busy_time + 3600) break; } - isyslog(LOG_INFO, "caught signal %d", Interrupted); + if (Interrupted) + isyslog(LOG_INFO, "caught signal %d", Interrupted); + else + isyslog(LOG_INFO, "idle - exiting."); Setup.CurrentChannel = cDvbApi::CurrentChannel(); Setup.Save(); cVideoCutter::Stop(); Here is the shell script: #! /bin/sh cd /usr/local/DVB/driver make insmod while(true) do date cd /usr/local/VDR su cko -c "/usr/local/VDR/vdr -v /video -c ." killproc -TERM /usr/local/VDR/vdr cd /usr/local/DVB/driver sleep 10 make reload done Three remarks about the script: I have put DVB and VDR under /usr/local, I am running vdr under my user name so I can access recordings without becoming root, I have put in a sleep 10, so if vdr aborts immediately for some reason, the above thing does not loop too fast. I am using the latest driver from the CVS repository. As you can see from the log below, the driver starts spitting after 25 minutes of use in the first case. In the second case, it survived fine for the entire hour that it ran. In the third case, it started spitting after 36 minutes of use. In the fourth case, it survived fine for the entire 149 minutes that it ran. Klaus said above that he is seeing this every few days. I wonder what is different between his system and mine, so I am seeing it much more frequently? Klaus, are you using the latest driver from the CVS repository? As one can see below, the recording at 9:05 worked. It would have failed without the modification and the script. Carsten. Feb 11 05:45:22 wald5 vdr[3825]: VDR version 0.71 started Feb 11 05:45:22 wald5 vdr[3825]: loading ./setup.conf Feb 11 05:45:22 wald5 vdr[3825]: loading ./channels.conf Feb 11 05:45:22 wald5 vdr[3825]: loading ./timers.conf Feb 11 05:45:22 wald5 vdr[3825]: loading ./commands.conf Feb 11 05:45:22 wald5 vdr[3825]: probing /dev/video0 Feb 11 05:45:22 wald5 vdr[3827]: EIT processing thread started (pid=3827) - master Feb 11 05:45:22 wald5 vdr[3825]: probing /dev/video1 Feb 11 05:45:22 wald5 vdr[3828]: EIT processing thread started (pid=3828) Feb 11 05:45:22 wald5 vdr[3825]: found 2 video devices Feb 11 05:45:22 wald5 vdr[3825]: setting primary DVB to 2 Feb 11 05:45:22 wald5 vdr[3825]: switching to channel 36 Feb 11 05:45:23 wald5 vdr[3829]: LIRC remote control thread started (pid=3829) Feb 11 05:45:23 wald5 vdr[3825]: SVDRP listening on port 2001 Feb 11 05:58:56 wald5 -- MARK -- Feb 11 06:11:39 wald5 kernel: outcommand error 1 Feb 11 06:11:40 wald5 kernel: outcommand error 1 Feb 11 06:11:40 wald5 kernel: commandrequest error Feb 11 06:11:41 wald5 kernel: dvb: ARM RESET Feb 11 06:12:10 wald5 vdr[3825]: ERROR: channel 18 not sync'ed (front.sync=0)! Feb 11 06:12:10 wald5 vdr[3825]: retrying Feb 11 06:12:12 wald5 vdr[3825]: ERROR: channel 18 not sync'ed (front.sync=0)! Feb 11 06:12:12 wald5 vdr[3825]: retrying (similar messages repeated hundreds of times) Feb 11 06:33:57 wald5 vdr[3825]: ERROR: channel 1 not sync'ed (front.sync=20)! Feb 11 06:33:57 wald5 vdr[3825]: retrying Feb 11 06:34:00 wald5 vdr[3825]: ERROR: channel 2 not sync'ed (front.sync=0)! Feb 11 06:34:00 wald5 vdr[3825]: retrying Feb 11 06:34:00 wald5 kernel: commandrequest error Feb 11 06:34:00 wald5 kernel: dvb: filter shutdown error :0 Feb 11 06:34:02 wald5 kernel: outcommand error 1 Feb 11 06:34:02 wald5 kernel: commandrequest error Feb 11 06:34:02 wald5 kernel: dvb: ARM RESET Feb 11 06:34:02 wald5 kernel: dvb: filter shutdown error :0 Feb 11 06:34:02 wald5 kernel: dvb: filter shutdown error :65535 Feb 11 06:34:02 wald5 last message repeated 3 times Feb 11 06:34:28 wald5 vdr[3825]: ERROR: channel 3 not sync'ed (front.sync=0)! Feb 11 06:34:28 wald5 vdr[3825]: retrying Feb 11 06:34:31 wald5 vdr[3825]: ERROR: channel 3 not sync'ed (front.sync=0)! Feb 11 06:34:31 wald5 vdr[3825]: retrying (similar messages repeated hundreds of times) Feb 11 08:44:15 wald5 vdr[4656]: ERROR: channel 25 not sync'ed (front.sync=0)! Feb 11 08:44:15 wald5 vdr[4656]: retrying Feb 11 08:44:39 wald5 vdr[4656]: ERROR: channel 32 not sync'ed (front.sync=0)! Feb 11 08:44:39 wald5 vdr[4656]: retrying Feb 11 08:44:39 wald5 kernel: commandrequest error Feb 11 08:44:39 wald5 kernel: dvb: filter shutdown error :0 Feb 11 08:44:41 wald5 kernel: outcommand error 1 Feb 11 08:44:41 wald5 kernel: commandrequest error Feb 11 08:44:41 wald5 kernel: dvb: ARM RESET Feb 11 08:44:41 wald5 kernel: dvb: filter shutdown error :0 Feb 11 08:44:41 wald5 kernel: dvb: filter shutdown error :65535 Feb 11 08:44:41 wald5 last message repeated 3 times Feb 11 08:44:44 wald5 vdr[4656]: ERROR: channel 32 not sync'ed (front.sync=0)! Feb 11 08:44:44 wald5 vdr[4656]: retrying Feb 11 08:44:47 wald5 vdr[4656]: ERROR: channel 32 not sync'ed (front.sync=0)! Feb 11 08:44:47 wald5 vdr[4656]: retrying Feb 11 08:44:49 wald5 vdr[4656]: ERROR: channel 1 not sync'ed (front.sync=0)! Feb 11 08:44:49 wald5 vdr[4656]: retrying Feb 11 08:44:52 wald5 vdr[4656]: ERROR: channel 1 not sync'ed (front.sync=20)! Feb 11 08:44:52 wald5 vdr[4656]: retrying Feb 11 08:44:55 wald5 vdr[4656]: ERROR: channel 1 not sync'ed (front.sync=0)! Feb 11 08:44:55 wald5 vdr[4656]: retrying Feb 11 08:45:18 wald5 vdr[4656]: ERROR: channel 2 not sync'ed (front.sync=0)! Feb 11 08:45:18 wald5 vdr[4656]: retrying Feb 11 08:45:21 wald5 vdr[4656]: ERROR: channel 2 not sync'ed (front.sync=0)! Feb 11 08:45:21 wald5 vdr[4656]: retrying Feb 11 08:45:23 wald5 vdr[4656]: ERROR: channel 2 not sync'ed (front.sync=0)! Feb 11 08:45:23 wald5 vdr[4656]: retrying Feb 11 08:45:26 wald5 vdr[4656]: ERROR: channel 3 not sync'ed (front.sync=0)! Feb 11 08:45:26 wald5 vdr[4656]: retrying Feb 11 08:45:29 wald5 vdr[4656]: ERROR: channel 3 not sync'ed (front.sync=0)! Feb 11 08:45:29 wald5 vdr[4656]: retrying Feb 11 08:45:31 wald5 vdr[4656]: ERROR: channel 3 not sync'ed (front.sync=0)! Feb 11 08:45:31 wald5 vdr[4656]: retrying Feb 11 08:45:55 wald5 vdr[4656]: ERROR: channel 5 not sync'ed (front.sync=0)! Feb 11 08:45:55 wald5 vdr[4656]: retrying Feb 11 08:45:58 wald5 vdr[4656]: ERROR: channel 5 not sync'ed (front.sync=0)! Feb 11 08:45:58 wald5 vdr[4656]: retrying Feb 11 08:46:00 wald5 vdr[4656]: ERROR: channel 5 not sync'ed (front.sync=0)! Feb 11 08:46:00 wald5 vdr[4656]: retrying Feb 11 08:46:03 wald5 vdr[4656]: ERROR: channel 7 not sync'ed (front.sync=20)! Feb 11 08:46:03 wald5 vdr[4656]: retrying Feb 11 08:46:25 wald5 vdr[4656]: saved setup to ./setup.conf Feb 11 08:46:26 wald5 vdr[4656]: exiting Feb 11 08:46:36 wald5 kernel: dvb: 2 dvb(s) released properly. Feb 11 08:46:36 wald5 kernel: VES1893: detach_client Feb 11 08:46:36 wald5 kernel: VES1893: detach_client Feb 11 08:46:36 wald5 kernel: VES1893: attaching VES1893 at 0x10 to adapter saa7146(1) Feb 11 08:46:37 wald5 kernel: VES1893: attaching VES1893 at 0x10 to adapter saa7146(2) Feb 11 08:46:39 wald5 kernel: dvb: ARM firmware successfully loaded. Feb 11 08:46:39 wald5 kernel: dvb: firmware = f0240009 Feb 11 08:46:39 wald5 kernel: dvb: MAC = 00 d0 5c 1e 8b ab Feb 11 08:46:41 wald5 kernel: dvb: ARM firmware successfully loaded. Feb 11 08:46:41 wald5 kernel: dvb: firmware = f0240009 Feb 11 08:46:41 wald5 kernel: dvb: MAC = 00 d0 5c 1f 10 7a Feb 11 08:46:41 wald5 kernel: dvb: 2 dvb(s) found! Feb 11 08:46:41 wald5 kernel: tuner: chip found @ 0x61 Feb 11 08:46:42 wald5 kernel: tuner: chip found @ 0x61 Feb 11 08:46:43 wald5 su: (to cko) cko on /dev/tty2 Feb 11 08:46:43 wald5 vdr[4822]: VDR version 0.71 started Feb 11 08:46:43 wald5 vdr[4822]: loading ./setup.conf Feb 11 08:46:43 wald5 vdr[4822]: loading ./channels.conf Feb 11 08:46:43 wald5 vdr[4822]: loading ./timers.conf Feb 11 08:46:43 wald5 vdr[4822]: loading ./commands.conf Feb 11 08:46:43 wald5 vdr[4822]: probing /dev/video0 Feb 11 08:46:43 wald5 vdr[4824]: EIT processing thread started (pid=4824) - master Feb 11 08:46:43 wald5 vdr[4822]: probing /dev/video1 Feb 11 08:46:44 wald5 vdr[4825]: EIT processing thread started (pid=4825) Feb 11 08:46:44 wald5 vdr[4822]: found 2 video devices Feb 11 08:46:44 wald5 vdr[4822]: setting primary DVB to 2 Feb 11 08:46:44 wald5 vdr[4822]: switching to channel 36 Feb 11 08:46:44 wald5 vdr[4826]: LIRC remote control thread started (pid=4826) Feb 11 08:46:44 wald5 vdr[4822]: SVDRP listening on port 2001 Feb 11 08:59:00 wald5 -- MARK -- Feb 11 09:05:00 wald5 vdr[4822]: timer 1 start Feb 11 09:05:00 wald5 vdr[4822]: switching to channel 27 Feb 11 09:05:00 wald5 vdr[4822]: record /video/DieWochenshow/2001-02-11.09:05.02.07.rec Feb 11 09:05:00 wald5 vdr[4822]: creating directory /video/DieWochenshow Feb 11 09:05:00 wald5 vdr[4822]: creating directory /video/DieWochenshow/2001-02-11.09:05.02.07.rec Feb 11 09:05:00 wald5 vdr[4822]: recording to '/video/DieWochenshow/2001-02-11.09:05.02.07.rec/001.vdr' Feb 11 09:05:00 wald5 vdr[4850]: recording thread started (pid=4850) Feb 11 09:19:00 wald5 -- MARK -- Feb 11 09:30:00 wald5 /USR/SBIN/CRON[4893]: (root) CMD (/usr/local/bin/rdate -s wald >>/var/tmp/time_log) Feb 11 09:41:21 wald5 vdr[4850]: recording to '/video/DieWochenshow/2001-02-11.09:05.02.07.rec/002.vdr' Feb 11 09:41:56 wald5 mountd[229]: NFS mount of / attempted from 158.225.25.15 Feb 11 09:41:56 wald5 mountd[229]: / has been mounted by 158.225.25.15 Feb 11 09:59:00 wald5 -- MARK -- Feb 11 10:15:01 wald5 vdr[4850]: end recording thread Feb 11 10:15:01 wald5 vdr[4822]: buffer stats: 780272 free, 0 overflows, limit exceeded 0 times Feb 11 10:15:01 wald5 vdr[4822]: timer 1 stop Feb 11 10:15:01 wald5 vdr[4822]: deleting timer 1 Feb 11 10:30:00 wald5 /USR/SBIN/CRON[5016]: (root) CMD (/usr/local/bin/rdate -s wald >>/var/tmp/time_log) Feb 11 10:59:00 wald5 -- MARK -- Feb 11 11:15:02 wald5 vdr[4822]: saved setup to ./setup.conf Feb 11 11:15:02 wald5 vdr[4822]: exiting --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From dvbc@topmail.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 15:15:22 +0100 From: go dvbc To: Subject: [linux-dvb] Internal connectors Siemens dvb-c card Hi, there are 2 internal connectors (10 pin and 14 pin) close to the ti-DSP on the Siemens DVB-C card. Can someone tell me the pin definitions for these 2 internal connectors? Is maybe the 10-pin connector the same like on the DVB-S card? Thanx in advance! ...Bye... DVBc -- TopMail - Jetzt kostenlos anmelden - http://www.topmail.de --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From bradley@tripledash.com Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 15:45:10 -0000 From: Bradley Schatz To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Siemens DVB-C Card in UK Has anyone any experience with this card with NTL or Sky in the UK? cheers bradley schatz solutions architect _ tripledash / phone +44 020 7377 07 75 fax +44 020 7247 69 30 mobile +44 07947 58 07 18 www.tripledash.co.uk --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From suamor@gmx.net Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 16:21:15 +0100 From: Reinhard Katzmann To: linux-dvb Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: probs with driver 0.8.1 (make insmod) Hi Markus! On Mon, Feb 12, 2001 at 10:09:21AM +0100, Markus Schwierz wrote: > Hello, > > when i try to make insmod with the driver 0.8.1 i get > the following error messages: > > videodev.o: unresolved symbol request_module > dvb.o: unresolved symbol video_register_device > dvb.o: unresolved symbol video_unregister_device > SIOCSIFADDR: Kein passendes Gerät gefunden > dvb0: unknown interface: Kein passendes Gerät gefunden > make: *** [insmod] Error 255 > bash-2.04# Hmm, it seems, there are some modules missing in this list, here is mine: start) msg='Loading DVB driver modules' echo -n "$msg: " sync ( insmod dvbdev insmod demux insmod dmx insmod video insmod audio insmod sec insmod frontend insmod ca insmod i2c-core insmod videodev insmod saa7146_core mode=0 buffers=4 insmod saa7146_v4l insmod VES1893 insmod VES1820 insmod dmxdev insmod dvb_demux insmod dvb fdebug=1 init_chan=1 insmod tuner insmod msp3400 # ifconfig dvb0 192.168.0.163 ) sync > I made make and makedev.napi in the driver direcory an got > no error messages so far. My system is Suse 7.0 with kernel > 2.2.16 and the Siemens dvbs card. The older driver versions > (0.7.x - 0.8.0) work without any problems. This worked for me with the last version on 2.2.x, currently on 2.4.x with devfs there some problems with how to name the devices. So I cannot really say anything here... > Has anybody an idea what i've done wrong? s.a. Best regards, Reinhard -- E-Mail: reinhard@suamor.de New GnuPG Public Key available on request Projekte: Datenbank und -schnittstelle für einen Fledermausroboter Datenbankanbindung und Demonstrationsserver für Pincity -- Attached file included as plaintext by Listar -- -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Weitere Infos: siehe http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE6h/9rTlancrI0irQRApi3AJ9Tx81FKBtIegpc/CQWM3+RCULQvgCfbHJY JdmnyykY0I4FpVYFMoovEiE= =JSCU -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From streeke@iae.nl Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 23:05:41 +0100 From: Elbert Streek To: Axel Gruber Cc: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: concurrent recording and play-out Probably I have to do the 2 DVB card solution but is there really no one in this mailing list who can explain the reason that the driver cannot support simulateous recording and playout? Elbert Streek Axel Gruber wrote: > > > One interesting feature is missing in de VDR application: concurrent > > recording and play-out. In the source code I found some hints that this > > feature is not implemented because the DVB driver does not support it. > > My questions are: > > - is an omission in the driver > > - is it a firmware issue? > > - is it the hardware that does not support concurrent recording and > > play-out? > > > If it is a driver issue than I am willing to support changes in the > > driver but the source code is very unclear to me. > > I´m also Intersted in this Feature ! - At this Moment i use 2 DVB-CARD´s to Record and Watch at the same time. > > A Friend makes a WINDOWS Software for these Card´s - he sayed to me that also the WINDOWS-Driver doesn´t support this feature. :-( > > Ok - so long... > > Axel Gruber --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From mocm@convergence.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 23:18:22 +0100 (CET) From: Marcus O.C. Metzler To: Elbert Streek Cc: Axel Gruber , linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: concurrent recording and play-out Elbert Streek writes: > > Probably I have to do the 2 DVB card solution but is there > really no one in this mailing list who can explain the > reason that the driver cannot support simulateous > recording and playout? > The hardware is just too slow. We tried everything and the results just weren't presentable. A cheaper way than buying two DVB card would be to buy one DVB card and an MPEG2 decoder card, or one DVB card and one of the budget DVB cards which have no hardware MPEG decoder. Marcus --------------------------------------------------------------------- Dr. Marcus Metzler mocm@netcologne.de http://www.metzlerbros.de mocm@convergence.de http://www.convergence.de Convergence Integrated Media GmbH Rosenthaler Str. 51 D-10178 Berlin --------------------------------------------------------------------- --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From Margit.Fiegert@t-online.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 01:03:30 +0100 From: Margit Fiegert To: linux-dvb Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: Problems with vdr 0.7 and driver 0.81. Hello, > Klaus said above that he is seeing this every few days. > I wonder what is different between his system and mine, so I am > seeing it much more frequently? Maybe a hint, maybe a nothing: I almost never saw the driver crashes. I use vdr very reliably. And if something went wrong it was a vdr segmentation fault, which can be handled by a trivail script which restarts vdr after a crasch (yes it exited almost every time). Yesterday I had 3 driver crashes while watching one 45min recording. The recording is ok, I watched the first 15 minutes a while ago with no problems. But I have no sattelite input signal currently! I hadn`t time to find out why, but I guess my dish has been turnd by a heavy wind. Can it be, that the driver is confused by having no signal, even when replaying? Can it be that the difference between the machines is the ammount of pid`s in the config that contain no transmission? I saw these Feb 11 08:45:58 wald5 vdr[4656]: ERROR: channel 5 not sync'ed (front.sync=0)! Feb 11 08:45:58 wald5 vdr[4656]: retrying in your logfile. Just an idea, maybe its another thing, especially since I use much older versions: Being frightend reading all the problem reports i didn`t upgrade for some time, even if I`m very interested in the integrated cutting solution and videotext. I still use vdr 0.68, dvb 0.80, kernal 2.2.13. Since I now saw the problems in this configuration, maybe I have chances not to have them with the newest version and a good signal? I`ll try. But I think it`s really worth a thouhgt. Greetings Michael My logs: ... Feb 11 22:09:45 K7 vdr[6661]: ERROR: channel not sync'ed (front.sync=0)! Feb 11 22:09:45 K7 vdr[6661]: retrying Feb 11 22:09:45 K7 vdr[6661]: switching to channel 2 Feb 11 22:09:48 K7 vdr[6661]: ERROR: channel not sync'ed (front.sync=0)! Feb 11 22:09:48 K7 vdr[6661]: retrying Feb 11 22:09:51 K7 vdr[6661]: ERROR: channel not sync'ed (front.sync=0)! Feb 11 22:09:51 K7 vdr[6661]: retrying ... Feb 11 22:10:32 K7 vdr[6668]: start replaying process (pid=6668) Feb 11 22:10:32 K7 kernel: dvb: Playing AV_PES Feb 11 22:10:32 K7 vdr[6668]: playing Feb 11 22:10:32 K7 vdr[6668]: resuming replay at index 23000 (0:15:20.01) Feb 11 22:16:39 K7 kernel: commandrequest error Feb 11 22:16:39 K7 kernel: dvb: ARM RESET Feb 11 22:16:39 K7 kernel: dvb: filter shutdown error :7393 Feb 11 22:16:39 K7 kernel: dvb: filter shutdown error :65535 Feb 11 22:16:39 K7 last message repeated 4 times ... --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From kcraigie@mediabolic.com Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 15:00:24 -0800 (PST) From: Keith Craigie To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] sample DTV caps Hey, Does anyone know where one might aquire sample raw DTV caps, for use in testing, development, etc? I've got a WinTV-D card, but the tuner is horrible and even if reception is decent, the card is unable to capture anything except extremely lossy streams. Which simply does not do :) A link to an ftp site or the like would be appreciated. Regards, Keith -- Keith Craigie R&D Mediabolic, Inc. --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From pf@artcom-gmbh.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 07:59:01 +0100 (MET) From: Peter Funk To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Is the Hauppauge WinTV DVB-s card compatible with Klaus Schm. dvr? Hi all, I'm new to this list and didn't found an archive or FAQ on the Web, so please excuse, if this has been asked before. I've read the article `Video für Handwerker' in the german magacine c't 4/2001 (pp 204...) written by Klaus Schmidinger and Dusan Zivadinovic, who have used the Siemens/Fujitsu DVB PCI card to build their system. Since the Siemens card is little bit more expensive and not so widely available than the Hauppauge WinTV DVB-s PCI card, I would like to ask whether somebody here has tried this model and whether it is compatible with the Siemens board before I start shopping for it. Thanks in advance, Peter -- Peter Funk, Oldenburger Str.86, D-27777 Ganderkesee, Germany, Fax:+49 4222950260 office: +49 421 20419-0 (ArtCom GmbH, Grazer Str.8, D-28359 Bremen) --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From dave@dchapman.com Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 07:26:34 +0000 From: Dave Chapman To: Peter Funk , linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: Is the Hauppauge WinTV DVB-s card compatible with Klaus Schm. dvr? Peter, Welcome to the list. Yes, I (and many other people on this list) have bought the Hauppauge card in place of the Siemens card - mainly due to it's wider availability outside Germany. The Hauppauge card is fully supported by the driver (it is a clone of the Siemens card). However, the "morally correct" thing to do is buy the Siemens card because they have actively supported the development of a GPL'ed Linux driver for their card. BTW, the complete archive for the list (and information and links regarding DVB under Linux) can be found at http://www.linuxtv.org. Best wishes, Dave. On Tuesday 13 February 2001 06:59, Peter Funk wrote: > Hi all, > > I'm new to this list and didn't found an archive or FAQ on the Web, so > please excuse, if this has been asked before. > > I've read the article `Video für Handwerker' in the german magacine c't > 4/2001 (pp 204...) written by Klaus Schmidinger and Dusan Zivadinovic, > who have used the Siemens/Fujitsu DVB PCI card to build their system. > > Since the Siemens card is little bit more expensive and not so widely > available than the Hauppauge WinTV DVB-s PCI card, I would like to > ask whether somebody here has tried this model and whether it is > compatible with the Siemens board before I start shopping for it. > > Thanks in advance, Peter --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From agw@supersonic.ruhr.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 18:55:59 +0100 From: Andreas Wohlfeld To: dvb Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: vdr 0.7, dvb0.8.1: problem with recording scrambled channels On Wed, Feb 07, 2001 at 12:17:14AM +0100, Elbert Streek wrote: > With the newest VDR version 0.7 i am able to record not scrambled > channels like CNN and ARD, but i cannot record for example the scrambled > dutch channel NED 1,2 and 3. > Has someone an idea about the this problem? I have the same problem. I switched to the cvs/latest versions but the problem persists. In older versions, I was able to record those channels you mentioned. Now I get 0 byte files. -- Andreas Wohlfeld -- Germany agw@eiberg.de andreas.wohlfeld@uni-bochum.de --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From David.Mckay@st.com Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 17:13:12 +0000 From: David Mckay To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Packet injector Could anybody who has a Hauppauge or Siemens card tell me if there is a connector on them to allow an mpeg packet injector to be hooked up to the card? Thanks -- Dave McKay Software Engineer STMicroelectronics Email: david.mckay@st.com --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From rjkm@convergence.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 19:14:24 +0100 (CET) From: Ralph Metzler To: David Mckay Cc: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Packet injector David Mckay writes: > > Could anybody who has a Hauppauge or Siemens card tell me if there is a > connector on them to allow an mpeg packet injector to be hooked up to the card? > There is a connector for a common interface conditional access adapter. I guess it could be used for injecting a transport stream. Ralph --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From streeke@iae.nl Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 23:08:54 +0100 From: Elbert Streek To: mocm@convergence.de Cc: Axel Gruber , linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: concurrent recording and play-out Marcus, Thanx for the reply. >From your answer i understand that it is possible but with limitations. What exactly is the limitation of the hardware? I know the hardware is limited in filtering the bitstream but what is the relation between input filtering and (output) decoding? The other question i have is the budget DVB card. Is this card supported by the current DVB driver? If so where is the filtering done? In the driver or somewhere in de VDR application? Elbert "Marcus O.C. Metzler" wrote: > > Elbert Streek writes: > > > > Probably I have to do the 2 DVB card solution but is there > > really no one in this mailing list who can explain the > > reason that the driver cannot support simulateous > > recording and playout? > > > The hardware is just too slow. We tried everything and the results just > weren't presentable. A cheaper way than buying two DVB card > would be to buy one DVB card and an MPEG2 decoder card, or one DVB card > and one of the budget DVB cards which have no hardware MPEG decoder. > > Marcus > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > Dr. Marcus Metzler > mocm@netcologne.de http://www.metzlerbros.de > mocm@convergence.de http://www.convergence.de > > Convergence Integrated Media GmbH > Rosenthaler Str. 51 > D-10178 Berlin > --------------------------------------------------------------------- --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From rjkm@convergence.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 23:44:35 +0100 (CET) From: Ralph Metzler To: Stefan Lucke Cc: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Siemens DVB-C card Stefan Lucke writes: > Hi, > I'm just new to this list, so if my few questions somewhere answered in > any FAQ, I'd like any hints. > > My target is video displaying system with one output card for different sources > (captures from TV, MPEG2, DV [firewire] without re/encoding > DV sources to MPEG2). > > In some parts of the sources I found some defines for RGB/YUV constants. > Do they apply to grabbing only or is it possible to feed either a DVB-s/DVB-c > card with a RGB/VUY (packed/planar) data stream on their video output port ? I don't understand the question. Feed something to the output port?!? > Is the analog TV addon board, available for siemens DVB-c board, supported too ? No. > If yes does it allow MPEG2 capture of analog cable TV ? No. Ralph --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From rjkm@convergence.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 23:39:37 +0100 (CET) From: Ralph Metzler To: Elbert Streek Cc: Axel Gruber , linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: concurrent recording and play-out Elbert Streek writes: > >From your answer i understand that it is possible but with limitations. > What exactly is the limitation of the hardware? I know the hardware is > limited > in filtering the bitstream but what is the relation between input > filtering > and (output) decoding? They both use the same DMA channel and the same dual ported RAM buffer for memory transfers to/from the ARM core. > The other question i have is the budget DVB card. Is this card supported > by > the current DVB driver? If so where is the filtering done? In the driver Yes, it is supported since driver version 0.8. > or > somewhere in de VDR application? In the driver. Ralph --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From mocm@convergence.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 23:55:15 +0100 (CET) From: Marcus O.C. Metzler To: Elbert Streek Cc: mocm@convergence.de, Axel Gruber , linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: concurrent recording and play-out Elbert Streek writes: > Marcus, > > Thanx for the reply. > > >From your answer i understand that it is possible but with limitations. > What exactly is the limitation of the hardware? I know the hardware is > limited > in filtering the bitstream but what is the relation between input > filtering > and (output) decoding? > The limitation is the debi port to the pc. There is not enough bandwidth to get the data from and to the pc at same same time. The chips on the card would allow recording and playback at the same time with a different hardware connection to the pc. > The other question i have is the budget DVB card. Is this card supported > by > the current DVB driver? If so where is the filtering done? In the driver > or > somewhere in de VDR application? > Filtering is done in software within the context of the dvbapi devices. VDR does not yet use the "new" dvbapi. Marcus --------------------------------------------------------------------- Dr. Marcus Metzler mocm@netcologne.de http://www.metzlerbros.de mocm@convergence.de http://www.convergence.de Convergence Integrated Media GmbH Rosenthaler Str. 51 D-10178 Berlin --------------------------------------------------------------------- --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From rjkm@convergence.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 00:55:17 +0100 (CET) From: Ralph Metzler To: Stefan Lucke Cc: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: Siemens DVB-C card Stefan Lucke writes: > On Die, 13 Feb 2001, Ralph Metzler wrote: > > Stefan Lucke writes: > [snip] > > > In some parts of the sources I found some defines for RGB/YUV constants. > > > Do they apply to grabbing only or is it possible to feed either a DVB-s/DVB-c > > > card with a RGB/VUY (packed/planar) data stream on their video output port ? > > > > > > I don't understand the question. Feed something to the output port?!? > > Is it possible to send a RGB/YUV picture to the card so that it is displayed > on the video output port (composite,Y/C, RGB) ? Yes, if you encode it as MPEG, e.g. as an I-frame. Sending uncompressed pictures to OSD is also supported but not very usable do to the small OSD memory (max. 4 colors at full resolution). One could write a picture directly to the frame buffer of the MPEG decoder but this is not supported right now and transmitting uncompressed pictures to the card would be rather slow. > > > > > Is the analog TV addon board, available for siemens DVB-c board, > > supported too ? > > > > No. > :-( (no, not yet, never?) Not really a priority right now. Data sheets for the tuner, video decoder and MSP chip are all freely available though. > > > If yes does it allow MPEG2 capture of analog cable TV ? > > > > No. > obvious :-( (s.o.) Yes, but even if the addon board were supported you couldn't capture analog cable TV as MPEG2, unless you pipe it through an MPEG2 encoder afterwards of course. Ralph --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From Stefan.Lucke@snafu.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 22:43:39 +0100 From: Stefan Lucke To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Siemens DVB-C card Hi, I'm just new to this list, so if my few questions somewhere answered in any FAQ, I'd like any hints. My target is video displaying system with one output card for different sources (captures from TV, MPEG2, DV [firewire] without re/encoding DV sources to MPEG2). In some parts of the sources I found some defines for RGB/YUV constants. Do they apply to grabbing only or is it possible to feed either a DVB-s/DVB-c card with a RGB/VUY (packed/planar) data stream on their video output port ? Is the analog TV addon board, available for siemens DVB-c board, supported too ? If yes does it allow MPEG2 capture of analog cable TV ? -- mfg Stefan Lucke (Stefan.Lucke@snafu.de) --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From Stefan.Lucke@snafu.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 00:15:23 +0100 From: Stefan Lucke To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: Siemens DVB-C card On Die, 13 Feb 2001, Ralph Metzler wrote: > Stefan Lucke writes: [snip] > > In some parts of the sources I found some defines for RGB/YUV constants. > > Do they apply to grabbing only or is it possible to feed either a DVB-s/DVB-c > > card with a RGB/VUY (packed/planar) data stream on their video output port ? > > > I don't understand the question. Feed something to the output port?!? Is it possible to send a RGB/YUV picture to the card so that it is displayed on the video output port (composite,Y/C, RGB) ? > > > Is the analog TV addon board, available for siemens DVB-c board, > supported too ? > > No. :-( (no, not yet, never?) > > > If yes does it allow MPEG2 capture of analog cable TV ? > > No. obvious :-( (s.o.) -- mfg Stefan Lucke (Stefan.Lucke@snafu.de) --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From paul@campina.iiruc.ro Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 08:40:42 +0200 From: Paul Lacatus To: "linux-dvb@linuxtv.org" Subject: [linux-dvb] dvdplayer 0.31 I am trying dvdplayer 0.31 on 0.81 driver and 2.4.1 kernel. The driver is working well for internet access. All looks OK, compiled Ok, launched OK but any image on the screen. How can I solve the problem ? Paul --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From dave@dchapman.com Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 08:24:04 +0000 From: Dave Chapman To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] DVB API: Questions about VIDEO_STILLPICTURE Hello, I'm looking to experiment with the VIDEO_STILLPICTURE command, but need some help getting started: 1) Can anyone point me to a C routine that will turn a bitmap into an I-Frame suitable for the VIDEO_STILLPICTURE driver function? I've searched the Internet without success. Alternatively, do Ralph/Marcus/anyone consider it appropriate to add a conversion routine to the driver to allow the application to pass the bitmap in an uncompressed format? 2) what happens to currently playing video (either live or a recording) when this function is called. Is it equivalent to a VIDEO_FREEZE, or should I call VIDEO_FREEZE before calling VIDEO_STILLPICTURE? 3) Am I correct in assuming that the audio is unaffected? 4) What are the limitations on the size and colour-depth of the I-Frame? Can you provide a list of resolutions? Best wishes, Dave. --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From dave@dchapman.com Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 13:59:12 +0000 From: Dave Chapman To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Buy the Hauppauge card Internet Card for 143 UK pounds At www.scan.co.uk - a "today only" special price (14th February). I've never dealt with this company, so I can't comment. I just thought that people considering buying this card would be interested. Best wishes, Dave. --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From Carsten.Koch@icem.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 16:13:21 +0100 From: Carsten Koch Cc: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: Buy the Hauppauge card Internet Card for 143 UK pounds Dave Chapman wrote: > > At www.scan.co.uk - a "today only" special price (14th February). The lowest mail order price in Germany I know is DM 459 (about the same as 143 UK pounds) from Bora Computer, see http://www.bora-computer.de/mainsite/preise.html Carsten. --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From r.schropp@ots-ag.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 16:43:36 +0100 From: "Schropp Roland, OTS" To: Carsten Koch Cc: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: Buy the Hauppauge card Internet Card for 143 UK pounds I sell my WinTV DVB-s. Don't need it anymore. It's 2 moth old. Cost: DM 300. Roland ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carsten Koch" Cc: Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 4:13 PM Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: Buy the Hauppauge card Internet Card for 143 UK pounds > Dave Chapman wrote: > > > > At www.scan.co.uk - a "today only" special price (14th February). > > The lowest mail order price in Germany I know is DM 459 > (about the same as 143 UK pounds) from Bora Computer, see > http://www.bora-computer.de/mainsite/preise.html > > Carsten. > > > --- > Info: > To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. > --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From Bernd.Juraschek@dr-stahl.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 15:36:12 +0100 From: "Juraschek, Bernd" To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: Siemens DVB-C card > > > > Is the analog TV addon board, available for siemens > > > > DVB-c board, supported too ? > > > No. > > :-( (no, not yet, never?) > Not really a priority right now. > Data sheets for the tuner, video decoder and MSP chip are all freely > available though. Do you plan to support sound support for digital channels with the analog board connected? With gVideo and the old DVB-API I can tune and see fine - but without sound. I don't like to remove the addon board everytime I'm switching from Windows to Linux ... Bernd --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From matthias@pentax.boerde.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 20:01:02 +0100 (MET) From: Matthias Weingart To: Carsten Koch Cc: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: Buy the Hauppauge card Internet Card for 143 UK pounds On Wed, 14 Feb 2001, Carsten Koch wrote: > Dave Chapman wrote: > > > > At www.scan.co.uk - a "today only" special price (14th February). > > The lowest mail order price in Germany I know is DM 459 > (about the same as 143 UK pounds) from Bora Computer, see > http://www.bora-computer.de/mainsite/preise.html http://www.dvb-shop.de/ for DM449 (bulk ware - I think this means only the hardware, no software) Matthias --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From frankta@263.net Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 12:42:07 +0800 From: Frankta To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] TT-budget+ Smart card reader + PIII 700? [ The following text is in the "gb2312" character set. ] [ Your display is set for the "ISO-8859-1" character set. ] [ Some characters may be displayed incorrectly. ] Hi, I have a TT-budget card , I can use it to view free channel in my PIII 700 PC.(Under Windoze). The DVB driver ver 0.8.0 says it also support TT-budget. I have a smart card reader on my PC. How to view DVB encrypt program using the TT-budget+smart card reader + PIII 700? I think finally a full functional card(with the ability of replaying)is not needed,because buying a PIII 700 should be cheaper than buying PII 233. thanks Frankta "wèù:.žË›±ÊâmëÖ¦j)m¢X¬µªåŠ{±¶ú+ƒ­†éì¹»®&Þ–)îÅÛÛjË.n7œ From rjkm@convergence.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 05:11:26 +0100 (CET) From: Ralph Metzler To: Frankta Cc: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] TT-budget+ Smart card reader + PIII 700? Frankta writes: > Hi, > I have a TT-budget card , I can use it to view free channel in my PIII 700 PC.(Under Windoze). The DVB driver ver 0.8.0 says it also support TT-budget. > I have a smart card reader on my PC. How to view DVB encrypt program using the TT-budget+smart card reader + PIII 700? I think finally a full functional card(with the ability of replaying)is not needed,because buying a PIII 700 should be cheaper than buying PII 233. > You cannot view scrambled programs with the TT-budget card. The driver also only supports the tuning and the filtering of the incoming transport stream. For viewing you will have to write an application which does the MPEG2 decoding. Ralph --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From larosa@euro2001.com Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 11:18:46 +0100 From: Giuseppe La Rosa To: Ralph Metzler Cc: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: TT-budget+ Smart card reader + PIII 700? Preamble: I don't have a DVB-s card, i follow this list by many months I don't know how exactly is the TT-budget but i think that it has at least the VES1893 chip, i guess. I'have found here http://www.semiconductors.philips.com/acrobat/other/cms/ves1893.pdf that in this chip there is a DVB descrambler. If this is right, and it really implements the DVB Common scrambling algorithm, it could be used to implement simple, public available, CA system such as the 'Remotely Keyed Encryption Schemes' of cryptolabs. What is missing is to manage the ECM and EMM of this CA system, but i this that this could be done in software. Pino > Frankta writes: > > Hi, > > I have a TT-budget card , I can use it to view free channel in my PIII 700 PC.(Under Windoze). The DVB driver ver 0.8.0 says it also support TT-budget. > > I have a smart card reader on my PC. How to view DVB encrypt program using the TT-budget+smart card reader + PIII 700? I think finally a full functional card(with the ability of replaying)is not needed,because buying a PIII 700 should be cheaper than buying PII 233. > > > > You cannot view scrambled programs with the TT-budget card. > > The driver also only supports the tuning and the filtering of the > incoming transport stream. For viewing you will have > to write an application which does the MPEG2 decoding. > > Ralph > > > --- > Info: > To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. > > --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From marcusmueller2001@yahoo.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 11:19:35 +0100 (CET) From: Marcus Mueller To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] ci for dvb-s Is it possible to use a IRDTO ALLCAM SE 4.7 in the siemens dvb-s for Premwrld with the linux driver? Are there any other modules that are usable? thx marc __________________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Gesendet von Yahoo! Mail - http://mail.yahoo.de --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From rjkm@convergence.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 13:36:54 +0100 (CET) From: Ralph Metzler To: Giuseppe La Rosa Cc: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: TT-budget+ Smart card reader + PIII 700? Hi, Giuseppe La Rosa writes: > Preamble: I don't have a DVB-s card, i follow this list by many months > > I don't know how exactly is the TT-budget but i think that it has at least > the VES1893 chip, i guess. > I'have found here > http://www.semiconductors.philips.com/acrobat/other/cms/ves1893.pdf > that in this chip there is a DVB descrambler. > If this is right, and it really implements the DVB Common scrambling > algorithm, it could be used to implement simple, public available, CA system > such as the 'Remotely Keyed Encryption Schemes' of cryptolabs. What is > missing is to manage the ECM and EMM of this CA system, but i this that this > could be done in software. Yes, it has a DVB descrambler built-in. No, it does not have a DVB Common Scrambling Algorithm built-in. The "DVB descrambler" built into the VES1893 (and all other DVB decoders) refers to the energy dispersal process which is part of the DVB standard. To avoid long series of 0s and 1s in the signal, which could lead to unwanted interference effects, the DVB stream is pseudo-randomized for broadcast. This could be described as scrambling with a publically known key. This energy dispersal scrambling/descrambling has NOTHING to do with the Common Scrambling Algorithm. Please look it up in ETS 300 421, section 4.4.1 "Transport multiplex adaptation and randomization for energy dispersal" where you will find a diagram of the scrambling algorithm. The VES1893 basically implements all of ETS 300 421 after the actual reception of the signal (which is done by the rest of the tuner), nothing more, nothing less. The Common Scrambling Algorithm (CSA) is usually built into the demultiplexer, i.e. in parts of the AV7110 in case of the non-budget card, or into CI-CAMs. Since the budget card does not have a hardware demultiplexer this would have to be done in software. They only give the CSA specs to hardware companies though. Looks like they are not as stupid as the DVD people ... Alternatively, one could connect a PCMCIA interface to the PC, plug in a CI-CAM (+ official smartcard and payed subscription course) and somewhow pass the transport stream through it. If you look at the PIN descriptions of the CI-CAMS you will notice that you will have to clock the bytes through the CI-CAM "by hand", i.e. you will have to set and poll the data valid and other status pins in software. Have fun! Ralph --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From larosa@euro2001.com Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 16:43:12 +0100 From: Giuseppe La Rosa To: Ralph Metzler Cc: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: TT-budget+ Smart card reader + PIII 700? > Hi, > > Giuseppe La Rosa writes: > > Preamble: I don't have a DVB-s card, i follow this list by many months > > > > I don't know how exactly is the TT-budget but i think that it has at least > > the VES1893 chip, i guess. > > I'have found here > > http://www.semiconductors.philips.com/acrobat/other/cms/ves1893.pdf > > that in this chip there is a DVB descrambler. > > If this is right, and it really implements the DVB Common scrambling > > algorithm, it could be used to implement simple, public available, CA system > > such as the 'Remotely Keyed Encryption Schemes' of cryptolabs. What is > > missing is to manage the ECM and EMM of this CA system, but i this that this > > could be done in software. > > > Yes, it has a DVB descrambler built-in. > No, it does not have a DVB Common Scrambling Algorithm built-in. > > The "DVB descrambler" built into the VES1893 (and all other DVB > decoders) refers to the energy dispersal process which is part of the > DVB standard. > To avoid long series of 0s and 1s in the signal, which could lead to > unwanted interference effects, the DVB stream is pseudo-randomized for > broadcast. This could be described as scrambling with a publically > known key. > > This energy dispersal scrambling/descrambling has NOTHING to do with > the Common Scrambling Algorithm. > Please look it up in ETS 300 421, section 4.4.1 > "Transport multiplex adaptation and randomization for energy dispersal" > where you will find a diagram of the scrambling algorithm. > > The VES1893 basically implements all of ETS 300 421 after the > actual reception of the signal (which is done by the rest of the > tuner), nothing more, nothing less. > > > The Common Scrambling Algorithm (CSA) is usually built into the > demultiplexer, i.e. in parts of the AV7110 in case of the non-budget > card, or into CI-CAMs. So, it could be possible to implements simple CA systems in the non-budget cards using this functionality of the AV7110? Cause I've noted in the dvb_demux.c this: if (dvbdmxfeed->descramble) return -ENOSYS; and I deduced that this functionality wasn't available in the demux. So I've tried elsewhere in the VES1893, and I've made the mistake that you explained. What does it means? That the functionality is present but is not used in the driver implementation? Do you think that could be activated? What I think is that, if is present, should not be difficult to activate and use it. Form the demux part, it must be only written the functions to tell what control words have to be used. The rest is to make some software that implements the CA System part that manage ECM and EMM. > Since the budget card does not have a hardware demultiplexer this > would have to be done in software. They only give the CSA specs to > hardware companies though. Looks like they are not as stupid as the DVD > people ... > > > Alternatively, one could connect a PCMCIA interface to the PC, plug > in a CI-CAM (+ official smartcard and payed subscription course) > and somewhow pass the transport stream through it. > If you look at the PIN descriptions of the CI-CAMS you will notice > that you will have to clock the bytes through the CI-CAM "by hand", > i.e. you will have to set and poll the data valid and other status > pins in software. > Have fun! > > > Ralph > > > > > > --- > Info: > To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. > > --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From Karsten@Karsten-Becker.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 17:25:06 +0100 From: Karsten Becker To: Linux DVB Subject: [linux-dvb] CVS&Doc Hi, First of all, what is the address of the cvs for the dvb-driver? Second, why is just this damn old version of the driver in the download-directory of linuxtv? Third, why is the documentation still that bad? I'm not a developer, I'm just a user, and the documentation really sucks... You can't improve your setup with that lack of information... sincerly karsten --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From polom@convergence.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 17:36:42 +0100 From: Szymon Polom To: Karsten Becker Cc: Linux DVB Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: CVS&Doc Hi... Karsten Becker wrote: > First of all, what is the address of the cvs for the dvb-driver? First of all, why aren't you able to look at "http://linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/"? > Second, why is just this damn old version of the driver in the > download-directory of linuxtv? Second, 0.8.1 is the latest stable release. If you want a more actual one, go for the CVS. > Third, why is the documentation still that bad? Third, write one or come up some constructive ideas. > I'm not a developer, I'm just a user, and the documentation really > sucks... > You can't improve your setup with that lack of information... > sincerly > karsten Even if you are not a developer, there are some users around here who are able to ask more polite than you. I guess, they are also getting more polite answers than mine answer. Bye... SP. -- Szymon Polom polom@convergence.de convergence integrated media GmbH http://www.convergence.de Rosenthaler Str. 51 fon: +49(0)30-72 62 06 68 D-10178 Berlin fax: +49(0)30-72 62 06 55 --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From rjkm@convergence.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 17:42:35 +0100 (CET) From: Ralph Metzler To: Giuseppe La Rosa Cc: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: TT-budget+ Smart card reader + PIII 700? Giuseppe La Rosa writes: > So, it could be possible to implements simple CA systems in the non-budget > cards using this functionality of the AV7110? Cause I've noted in the > dvb_demux.c this: > > if (dvbdmxfeed->descramble) > return -ENOSYS; > > and I deduced that this functionality wasn't available in the demux. So I've > tried elsewhere in the VES1893, and I've made the mistake that you > explained. > What does it means? That the functionality is present but is not used in the > driver implementation? The functionality would have to be implemented into the firmware. > Do you think that could be activated? What I think is that, if is present, > should not be difficult to activate and use it. Form the demux part, it must > be only written the functions to tell what control words have to be used. > The rest is to make some software that implements the CA System part that > manage ECM and EMM. The various CA systems are littered with patents and trade secrets. Any product implementing them would have to get the proper licenses. I am certainly not going to step into this legal minefield. Ralph --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From bradley@tripledash.com Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 16:52:37 -0000 From: Bradley Schatz To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] inexpensive DVB stream Creation? Hi All, Can any one suggest a half decent and inexpensive card that will produce a DVB stream compatible with a cable set top box or Siemenc-c card? Thanks in advance, bradley schatz solutions architect _ tripledash / phone +44 020 7377 07 75 fax +44 020 7247 69 30 mobile +44 07947 58 07 18 www.tripledash.co.uk --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From poethke@sekt.convergence.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 17:57:25 +0100 From: Andreas Poethke To: Karsten Becker , Linux DVB Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: CVS&Doc On Thursday 15 February 2001 17:25, Karsten Becker wrote: > First of all, what is the address of the cvs for the dvb-driver? it is linked on the website: developers -> cvs: http://www.linuxtv.org/cvs/ > Second, why is just this damn old version of the driver in the > download-directory of linuxtv? because nobody found a significant payoff in releasing a new driver version. cvs reflects the cutting edge and may not be stable or may even not compile. > Third, why is the documentation still that bad? because nobody takes this job serious enough to stop his/her work for. what about you? > I'm not a developer, I'm just a user, and the documentation really > sucks... ok, it seems you are the right person for this job. lets do it together with me. we write down a step-by-step documentation on how to set up all the dvb stuff a regular user needs. i assist you as far as i'm able to. topics in the FAQ should be: 1) supported cards 2) HOWTO install the driver 3) HOWTO install applications and use them (gVideo, tuxzap, xawtv, ... ) 4) other usefull things to know: file conversions etc. 5) watching encrypted services ... ok Karsten, lets become rich & famous for our high quality installation guideline. (all the stuff we need to know is somewhere written in the sources, so all we have to do is collecting them.) Andreas. --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From Karsten@Karsten-Becker.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 18:26:53 +0100 From: Karsten Becker To: Andreas Poethke Cc: Linux DVB Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: CVS&Doc Hi Andreas > > First of all, what is the address of the cvs for the dvb-driver? > > it is linked on the website: developers -> cvs: > > http://www.linuxtv.org/cvs/ Sorry, didn't see it... > > Second, why is just this damn old version of the driver in the > > download-directory of linuxtv? > > because nobody found a significant payoff in releasing a new driver version. > cvs reflects the cutting edge and may not be stable or may even not compile. But it doesn't compile under 2.4 and I'm pretty sure you smart guys managed it to get it working under 2.4... > > Third, why is the documentation still that bad? > > because nobody takes this job serious enough to stop his/her work for. what > about you? I would do so... But, because I'm just a User and just using the Internet-thing, I don't have the knowledge about what is really used by what.. > ok, it seems you are the right person for this job. lets do it together with > me. we write down a step-by-step documentation on how to set up all the dvb > stuff a regular user needs. i assist you as far as i'm able to. I could&would do this job, but I can just write down what I did to get the sat-downstream working... And I think its the baddest solution you could find.. At least it crashes once a day... > 1) supported cards ok > > 2) HOWTO install the driver ok > > 3) HOWTO install applications and use them (gVideo, tuxzap, xawtv, ... ) I don't use them > 4) other usefull things to know: file conversions etc. What do you mean by this? > 5) watching encrypted services I don't use this too > ok Karsten, lets become rich & famous for our high quality installation > guideline. > I'm ready > > (all the stuff we need to know is somewhere written in the sources, so all we > have to do is collecting them.) > > Andreas. Karsten --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From eduard.kumer@rbg.siemens.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 18:37:30 +0100 From: Eduard Kumer To: dvb Subject: [linux-dvb] HAuppauge Hi all, does anybody has the pin assignment of the additional 2 connector of the Hauppauge DVB-S 564 ??? Should be RGB and S/PDIF any page with more Information ? hauppauge-page has no information so far .... regards -- Eduard Kumer System- and Networkadmin U -(')____, Siemens Automotive AG AT BE DI SW3 (W6912/4/G8) N (` =~~/ Wernerwerkstr.2 Phone/Fax: +49 941 202 5268/5192 I ^~^`---'~~~ 93049 Regensburg mailto:edku@rbg42.siemens.de X --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From larosa@euro2001.com Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 16:43:12 +0100 From: Giuseppe La Rosa To: Ralph Metzler Cc: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: TT-budget+ Smart card reader + PIII 700? > Hi, > > Giuseppe La Rosa writes: > > Preamble: I don't have a DVB-s card, i follow this list by many months > > > > I don't know how exactly is the TT-budget but i think that it has at least > > the VES1893 chip, i guess. > > I'have found here > > http://www.semiconductors.philips.com/acrobat/other/cms/ves1893.pdf > > that in this chip there is a DVB descrambler. > > If this is right, and it really implements the DVB Common scrambling > > algorithm, it could be used to implement simple, public available, CA system > > such as the 'Remotely Keyed Encryption Schemes' of cryptolabs. What is > > missing is to manage the ECM and EMM of this CA system, but i this that this > > could be done in software. > > > Yes, it has a DVB descrambler built-in. > No, it does not have a DVB Common Scrambling Algorithm built-in. > > The "DVB descrambler" built into the VES1893 (and all other DVB > decoders) refers to the energy dispersal process which is part of the > DVB standard. > To avoid long series of 0s and 1s in the signal, which could lead to > unwanted interference effects, the DVB stream is pseudo-randomized for > broadcast. This could be described as scrambling with a publically > known key. > > This energy dispersal scrambling/descrambling has NOTHING to do with > the Common Scrambling Algorithm. > Please look it up in ETS 300 421, section 4.4.1 > "Transport multiplex adaptation and randomization for energy dispersal" > where you will find a diagram of the scrambling algorithm. > > The VES1893 basically implements all of ETS 300 421 after the > actual reception of the signal (which is done by the rest of the > tuner), nothing more, nothing less. > > > The Common Scrambling Algorithm (CSA) is usually built into the > demultiplexer, i.e. in parts of the AV7110 in case of the non-budget > card, or into CI-CAMs. So, it could be possible to implements simple CA systems in the non-budget cards using this functionality of the AV7110? Cause I've noted in the dvb_demux.c this: if (dvbdmxfeed->descramble) return -ENOSYS; and I deduced that this functionality wasn't available in the demux. So I've tried elsewhere in the VES1893, and I've made the mistake that you explained. What does it means? That the functionality is present but is not used in the driver implementation? Do you think that could be activated? What I think is that, if is present, should not be difficult to activate and use it. Form the demux part, it must be only written the functions to tell what control words have to be used. The rest is to make some software that implements the CA System part that manage ECM and EMM. > Since the budget card does not have a hardware demultiplexer this > would have to be done in software. They only give the CSA specs to > hardware companies though. Looks like they are not as stupid as the DVD > people ... > > > Alternatively, one could connect a PCMCIA interface to the PC, plug > in a CI-CAM (+ official smartcard and payed subscription course) > and somewhow pass the transport stream through it. > If you look at the PIN descriptions of the CI-CAMS you will notice > that you will have to clock the bytes through the CI-CAM "by hand", > i.e. you will have to set and poll the data valid and other status > pins in software. > Have fun! > > > Ralph > > > > > > --- > Info: > To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. > > --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From polom@convergence.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 17:36:42 +0100 From: Szymon Polom To: Karsten Becker Cc: Linux DVB Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: CVS&Doc Hi... Karsten Becker wrote: > First of all, what is the address of the cvs for the dvb-driver? First of all, why aren't you able to look at "http://linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/"? > Second, why is just this damn old version of the driver in the > download-directory of linuxtv? Second, 0.8.1 is the latest stable release. If you want a more actual one, go for the CVS. > Third, why is the documentation still that bad? Third, write one or come up some constructive ideas. > I'm not a developer, I'm just a user, and the documentation really > sucks... > You can't improve your setup with that lack of information... > sincerly > karsten Even if you are not a developer, there are some users around here who are able to ask more polite than you. I guess, they are also getting more polite answers than mine answer. Bye... SP. -- Szymon Polom polom@convergence.de convergence integrated media GmbH http://www.convergence.de Rosenthaler Str. 51 fon: +49(0)30-72 62 06 68 D-10178 Berlin fax: +49(0)30-72 62 06 55 --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From rjkm@convergence.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 17:42:35 +0100 (CET) From: Ralph Metzler To: Giuseppe La Rosa Cc: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: TT-budget+ Smart card reader + PIII 700? Giuseppe La Rosa writes: > So, it could be possible to implements simple CA systems in the non-budget > cards using this functionality of the AV7110? Cause I've noted in the > dvb_demux.c this: > > if (dvbdmxfeed->descramble) > return -ENOSYS; > > and I deduced that this functionality wasn't available in the demux. So I've > tried elsewhere in the VES1893, and I've made the mistake that you > explained. > What does it means? That the functionality is present but is not used in the > driver implementation? The functionality would have to be implemented into the firmware. > Do you think that could be activated? What I think is that, if is present, > should not be difficult to activate and use it. Form the demux part, it must > be only written the functions to tell what control words have to be used. > The rest is to make some software that implements the CA System part that > manage ECM and EMM. The various CA systems are littered with patents and trade secrets. Any product implementing them would have to get the proper licenses. I am certainly not going to step into this legal minefield. Ralph --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From Karsten@Karsten-Becker.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 18:26:53 +0100 From: Karsten Becker To: Andreas Poethke Cc: Linux DVB Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: CVS&Doc Hi Andreas > > First of all, what is the address of the cvs for the dvb-driver? > > it is linked on the website: developers -> cvs: > > http://www.linuxtv.org/cvs/ Sorry, didn't see it... > > Second, why is just this damn old version of the driver in the > > download-directory of linuxtv? > > because nobody found a significant payoff in releasing a new driver version. > cvs reflects the cutting edge and may not be stable or may even not compile. But it doesn't compile under 2.4 and I'm pretty sure you smart guys managed it to get it working under 2.4... > > Third, why is the documentation still that bad? > > because nobody takes this job serious enough to stop his/her work for. what > about you? I would do so... But, because I'm just a User and just using the Internet-thing, I don't have the knowledge about what is really used by what.. > ok, it seems you are the right person for this job. lets do it together with > me. we write down a step-by-step documentation on how to set up all the dvb > stuff a regular user needs. i assist you as far as i'm able to. I could&would do this job, but I can just write down what I did to get the sat-downstream working... And I think its the baddest solution you could find.. At least it crashes once a day... > 1) supported cards ok > > 2) HOWTO install the driver ok > > 3) HOWTO install applications and use them (gVideo, tuxzap, xawtv, ... ) I don't use them > 4) other usefull things to know: file conversions etc. What do you mean by this? > 5) watching encrypted services I don't use this too > ok Karsten, lets become rich & famous for our high quality installation > guideline. > I'm ready > > (all the stuff we need to know is somewhere written in the sources, so all we > have to do is collecting them.) > > Andreas. Karsten --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From Karsten@Karsten-Becker.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 17:25:06 +0100 From: Karsten Becker To: Linux DVB Subject: [linux-dvb] CVS&Doc Hi, First of all, what is the address of the cvs for the dvb-driver? Second, why is just this damn old version of the driver in the download-directory of linuxtv? Third, why is the documentation still that bad? I'm not a developer, I'm just a user, and the documentation really sucks... You can't improve your setup with that lack of information... sincerly karsten --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From bradley@tripledash.com Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 16:52:37 -0000 From: Bradley Schatz To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] inexpensive DVB stream Creation? Hi All, Can any one suggest a half decent and inexpensive card that will produce a DVB stream compatible with a cable set top box or Siemenc-c card? Thanks in advance, bradley schatz solutions architect _ tripledash / phone +44 020 7377 07 75 fax +44 020 7247 69 30 mobile +44 07947 58 07 18 www.tripledash.co.uk --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From poethke@sekt.convergence.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 17:57:25 +0100 From: Andreas Poethke To: Karsten Becker , Linux DVB Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: CVS&Doc On Thursday 15 February 2001 17:25, Karsten Becker wrote: > First of all, what is the address of the cvs for the dvb-driver? it is linked on the website: developers -> cvs: http://www.linuxtv.org/cvs/ > Second, why is just this damn old version of the driver in the > download-directory of linuxtv? because nobody found a significant payoff in releasing a new driver version. cvs reflects the cutting edge and may not be stable or may even not compile. > Third, why is the documentation still that bad? because nobody takes this job serious enough to stop his/her work for. what about you? > I'm not a developer, I'm just a user, and the documentation really > sucks... ok, it seems you are the right person for this job. lets do it together with me. we write down a step-by-step documentation on how to set up all the dvb stuff a regular user needs. i assist you as far as i'm able to. topics in the FAQ should be: 1) supported cards 2) HOWTO install the driver 3) HOWTO install applications and use them (gVideo, tuxzap, xawtv, ... ) 4) other usefull things to know: file conversions etc. 5) watching encrypted services ... ok Karsten, lets become rich & famous for our high quality installation guideline. (all the stuff we need to know is somewhere written in the sources, so all we have to do is collecting them.) Andreas. --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From eduard.kumer@rbg.siemens.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 18:37:30 +0100 From: Eduard Kumer To: dvb Subject: [linux-dvb] HAuppauge Hi all, does anybody has the pin assignment of the additional 2 connector of the Hauppauge DVB-S 564 ??? Should be RGB and S/PDIF any page with more Information ? hauppauge-page has no information so far .... regards -- Eduard Kumer System- and Networkadmin U -(')____, Siemens Automotive AG AT BE DI SW3 (W6912/4/G8) N (` =~~/ Wernerwerkstr.2 Phone/Fax: +49 941 202 5268/5192 I ^~^`---'~~~ 93049 Regensburg mailto:edku@rbg42.siemens.de X --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From clemens@root.at Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 17:45:41 +0100 From: Clemens Kirchgatterer To: linux-dvb Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: CVS&Doc Karsten Becker wrote: > > Third, why is the documentation still that bad? > I'm not a developer, I'm just a user, and the documentation really > sucks... > You can't improve your setup with that lack of information... ah, seams as we would have finally found someone who will gladly rewrite the documentation and will give back a little bit of what he got from the open source community! thank you so much ... clemens --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From martin@hammerschmid.com Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 20:57:49 +0100 From: Martin Hammerschmid To: linux-dvb Subject: [linux-dvb] http://www.videolan.org/ http://www.videolan.org/ looks interesing, maybe usable with a dvb card too. Martin ========== mailto:martin@hammerschmid.com ========== =RSA-PGP-Key ID:0x81783FE7 DH-PGP-Key ID:0x6B66589A= ==================================================== Useless Invention: Flame-retardant gasoline. --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From joachim.stolze@gmx.net Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 20:57:37 +0100 (MET) From: Joachim Stolze To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: HAuppauge > Hi all, > > does anybody has the pin assignment of the additional 2 connector of the > Hauppauge DVB-S 564 ??? > > Should be RGB and S/PDIF > > any page with more Information ? > > hauppauge-page has no information so far .... interesting ... on the picture of this page http://www.Hauppauge.de/pro_dvb2.htm there are no additional connectors visible, at least on the upper side. spdif (ac3) and RGB out would be vital for me to dig into this project. At 500 DEM per card it is as costly as a complete DVB receiver which has both options included. And even the commercial DVB-VCRs have an equal pricetag to an complete low cost Linux system. At least up to my current informations. Joachim -- Sent through GMX FreeMail - http://www.gmx.net --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From larosa@euro2001.com Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 16:43:12 +0100 From: Giuseppe La Rosa To: Ralph Metzler Cc: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: TT-budget+ Smart card reader + PIII 700? > Hi, > > Giuseppe La Rosa writes: > > Preamble: I don't have a DVB-s card, i follow this list by many months > > > > I don't know how exactly is the TT-budget but i think that it has at least > > the VES1893 chip, i guess. > > I'have found here > > http://www.semiconductors.philips.com/acrobat/other/cms/ves1893.pdf > > that in this chip there is a DVB descrambler. > > If this is right, and it really implements the DVB Common scrambling > > algorithm, it could be used to implement simple, public available, CA system > > such as the 'Remotely Keyed Encryption Schemes' of cryptolabs. What is > > missing is to manage the ECM and EMM of this CA system, but i this that this > > could be done in software. > > > Yes, it has a DVB descrambler built-in. > No, it does not have a DVB Common Scrambling Algorithm built-in. > > The "DVB descrambler" built into the VES1893 (and all other DVB > decoders) refers to the energy dispersal process which is part of the > DVB standard. > To avoid long series of 0s and 1s in the signal, which could lead to > unwanted interference effects, the DVB stream is pseudo-randomized for > broadcast. This could be described as scrambling with a publically > known key. > > This energy dispersal scrambling/descrambling has NOTHING to do with > the Common Scrambling Algorithm. > Please look it up in ETS 300 421, section 4.4.1 > "Transport multiplex adaptation and randomization for energy dispersal" > where you will find a diagram of the scrambling algorithm. > > The VES1893 basically implements all of ETS 300 421 after the > actual reception of the signal (which is done by the rest of the > tuner), nothing more, nothing less. > > > The Common Scrambling Algorithm (CSA) is usually built into the > demultiplexer, i.e. in parts of the AV7110 in case of the non-budget > card, or into CI-CAMs. So, it could be possible to implements simple CA systems in the non-budget cards using this functionality of the AV7110? Cause I've noted in the dvb_demux.c this: if (dvbdmxfeed->descramble) return -ENOSYS; and I deduced that this functionality wasn't available in the demux. So I've tried elsewhere in the VES1893, and I've made the mistake that you explained. What does it means? That the functionality is present but is not used in the driver implementation? Do you think that could be activated? What I think is that, if is present, should not be difficult to activate and use it. Form the demux part, it must be only written the functions to tell what control words have to be used. The rest is to make some software that implements the CA System part that manage ECM and EMM. > Since the budget card does not have a hardware demultiplexer this > would have to be done in software. They only give the CSA specs to > hardware companies though. Looks like they are not as stupid as the DVD > people ... > > > Alternatively, one could connect a PCMCIA interface to the PC, plug > in a CI-CAM (+ official smartcard and payed subscription course) > and somewhow pass the transport stream through it. > If you look at the PIN descriptions of the CI-CAMS you will notice > that you will have to clock the bytes through the CI-CAM "by hand", > i.e. you will have to set and poll the data valid and other status > pins in software. > Have fun! > > > Ralph > > > > > > --- > Info: > To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. > > --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From polom@convergence.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 17:36:42 +0100 From: Szymon Polom To: Karsten Becker Cc: Linux DVB Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: CVS&Doc Hi... Karsten Becker wrote: > First of all, what is the address of the cvs for the dvb-driver? First of all, why aren't you able to look at "http://linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/"? > Second, why is just this damn old version of the driver in the > download-directory of linuxtv? Second, 0.8.1 is the latest stable release. If you want a more actual one, go for the CVS. > Third, why is the documentation still that bad? Third, write one or come up some constructive ideas. > I'm not a developer, I'm just a user, and the documentation really > sucks... > You can't improve your setup with that lack of information... > sincerly > karsten Even if you are not a developer, there are some users around here who are able to ask more polite than you. I guess, they are also getting more polite answers than mine answer. Bye... SP. -- Szymon Polom polom@convergence.de convergence integrated media GmbH http://www.convergence.de Rosenthaler Str. 51 fon: +49(0)30-72 62 06 68 D-10178 Berlin fax: +49(0)30-72 62 06 55 --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From rjkm@convergence.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 17:42:35 +0100 (CET) From: Ralph Metzler To: Giuseppe La Rosa Cc: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: TT-budget+ Smart card reader + PIII 700? Giuseppe La Rosa writes: > So, it could be possible to implements simple CA systems in the non-budget > cards using this functionality of the AV7110? Cause I've noted in the > dvb_demux.c this: > > if (dvbdmxfeed->descramble) > return -ENOSYS; > > and I deduced that this functionality wasn't available in the demux. So I've > tried elsewhere in the VES1893, and I've made the mistake that you > explained. > What does it means? That the functionality is present but is not used in the > driver implementation? The functionality would have to be implemented into the firmware. > Do you think that could be activated? What I think is that, if is present, > should not be difficult to activate and use it. Form the demux part, it must > be only written the functions to tell what control words have to be used. > The rest is to make some software that implements the CA System part that > manage ECM and EMM. The various CA systems are littered with patents and trade secrets. Any product implementing them would have to get the proper licenses. I am certainly not going to step into this legal minefield. Ralph --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From Karsten@Karsten-Becker.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 18:26:53 +0100 From: Karsten Becker To: Andreas Poethke Cc: Linux DVB Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: CVS&Doc Hi Andreas > > First of all, what is the address of the cvs for the dvb-driver? > > it is linked on the website: developers -> cvs: > > http://www.linuxtv.org/cvs/ Sorry, didn't see it... > > Second, why is just this damn old version of the driver in the > > download-directory of linuxtv? > > because nobody found a significant payoff in releasing a new driver version. > cvs reflects the cutting edge and may not be stable or may even not compile. But it doesn't compile under 2.4 and I'm pretty sure you smart guys managed it to get it working under 2.4... > > Third, why is the documentation still that bad? > > because nobody takes this job serious enough to stop his/her work for. what > about you? I would do so... But, because I'm just a User and just using the Internet-thing, I don't have the knowledge about what is really used by what.. > ok, it seems you are the right person for this job. lets do it together with > me. we write down a step-by-step documentation on how to set up all the dvb > stuff a regular user needs. i assist you as far as i'm able to. I could&would do this job, but I can just write down what I did to get the sat-downstream working... And I think its the baddest solution you could find.. At least it crashes once a day... > 1) supported cards ok > > 2) HOWTO install the driver ok > > 3) HOWTO install applications and use them (gVideo, tuxzap, xawtv, ... ) I don't use them > 4) other usefull things to know: file conversions etc. What do you mean by this? > 5) watching encrypted services I don't use this too > ok Karsten, lets become rich & famous for our high quality installation > guideline. > I'm ready > > (all the stuff we need to know is somewhere written in the sources, so all we > have to do is collecting them.) > > Andreas. Karsten --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From Karsten@Karsten-Becker.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 17:25:06 +0100 From: Karsten Becker To: Linux DVB Subject: [linux-dvb] CVS&Doc Hi, First of all, what is the address of the cvs for the dvb-driver? Second, why is just this damn old version of the driver in the download-directory of linuxtv? Third, why is the documentation still that bad? I'm not a developer, I'm just a user, and the documentation really sucks... You can't improve your setup with that lack of information... sincerly karsten --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From bradley@tripledash.com Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 16:52:37 -0000 From: Bradley Schatz To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] inexpensive DVB stream Creation? Hi All, Can any one suggest a half decent and inexpensive card that will produce a DVB stream compatible with a cable set top box or Siemenc-c card? Thanks in advance, bradley schatz solutions architect _ tripledash / phone +44 020 7377 07 75 fax +44 020 7247 69 30 mobile +44 07947 58 07 18 www.tripledash.co.uk --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From poethke@sekt.convergence.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 17:57:25 +0100 From: Andreas Poethke To: Karsten Becker , Linux DVB Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: CVS&Doc On Thursday 15 February 2001 17:25, Karsten Becker wrote: > First of all, what is the address of the cvs for the dvb-driver? it is linked on the website: developers -> cvs: http://www.linuxtv.org/cvs/ > Second, why is just this damn old version of the driver in the > download-directory of linuxtv? because nobody found a significant payoff in releasing a new driver version. cvs reflects the cutting edge and may not be stable or may even not compile. > Third, why is the documentation still that bad? because nobody takes this job serious enough to stop his/her work for. what about you? > I'm not a developer, I'm just a user, and the documentation really > sucks... ok, it seems you are the right person for this job. lets do it together with me. we write down a step-by-step documentation on how to set up all the dvb stuff a regular user needs. i assist you as far as i'm able to. topics in the FAQ should be: 1) supported cards 2) HOWTO install the driver 3) HOWTO install applications and use them (gVideo, tuxzap, xawtv, ... ) 4) other usefull things to know: file conversions etc. 5) watching encrypted services ... ok Karsten, lets become rich & famous for our high quality installation guideline. (all the stuff we need to know is somewhere written in the sources, so all we have to do is collecting them.) Andreas. --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From eduard.kumer@rbg.siemens.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 18:37:30 +0100 From: Eduard Kumer To: dvb Subject: [linux-dvb] HAuppauge Hi all, does anybody has the pin assignment of the additional 2 connector of the Hauppauge DVB-S 564 ??? Should be RGB and S/PDIF any page with more Information ? hauppauge-page has no information so far .... regards -- Eduard Kumer System- and Networkadmin U -(')____, Siemens Automotive AG AT BE DI SW3 (W6912/4/G8) N (` =~~/ Wernerwerkstr.2 Phone/Fax: +49 941 202 5268/5192 I ^~^`---'~~~ 93049 Regensburg mailto:edku@rbg42.siemens.de X --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From clemens@root.at Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 17:45:41 +0100 From: Clemens Kirchgatterer To: linux-dvb Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: CVS&Doc Karsten Becker wrote: > > Third, why is the documentation still that bad? > I'm not a developer, I'm just a user, and the documentation really > sucks... > You can't improve your setup with that lack of information... ah, seams as we would have finally found someone who will gladly rewrite the documentation and will give back a little bit of what he got from the open source community! thank you so much ... clemens --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From martin@hammerschmid.com Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 20:57:49 +0100 From: Martin Hammerschmid To: linux-dvb Subject: [linux-dvb] http://www.videolan.org/ http://www.videolan.org/ looks interesing, maybe usable with a dvb card too. Martin ========== mailto:martin@hammerschmid.com ========== =RSA-PGP-Key ID:0x81783FE7 DH-PGP-Key ID:0x6B66589A= ==================================================== Useless Invention: Flame-retardant gasoline. --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From joachim.stolze@gmx.net Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 20:57:37 +0100 (MET) From: Joachim Stolze To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: HAuppauge > Hi all, > > does anybody has the pin assignment of the additional 2 connector of the > Hauppauge DVB-S 564 ??? > > Should be RGB and S/PDIF > > any page with more Information ? > > hauppauge-page has no information so far .... interesting ... on the picture of this page http://www.Hauppauge.de/pro_dvb2.htm there are no additional connectors visible, at least on the upper side. spdif (ac3) and RGB out would be vital for me to dig into this project. At 500 DEM per card it is as costly as a complete DVB receiver which has both options included. And even the commercial DVB-VCRs have an equal pricetag to an complete low cost Linux system. At least up to my current informations. Joachim -- Sent through GMX FreeMail - http://www.gmx.net --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From rjkm@convergence.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 21:55:38 +0100 (CET) From: Ralph Metzler To: Eduard Kumer Cc: dvb Subject: [linux-dvb] HAuppauge Hi, Eduard Kumer writes: > does anybody has the pin assignment of the additional 2 connector of the > Hauppauge DVB-S 564 ??? > > Should be RGB and S/PDIF > > any page with more Information ? > OK, let's answer this (again): A nice picture and description is at: http://www2.arnes.si/~mthale1/rgb.html The readme of the Siemens software also includes this pin description. You could of course also just check the archive of his mailing list. And, before somebody asks this again: No, the S/PDIF output cannot be used for AC3. Ralph --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From larosa@euro2001.com Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 10:57:09 +0100 From: Giuseppe La Rosa To: Ralph Metzler Cc: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: TT-budget+ Smart card reader + PIII 700? > > Giuseppe La Rosa writes: > > > So, it could be possible to implements simple CA systems in the > non-budget > > > cards using this functionality of the AV7110? Cause I've noted in the > > > dvb_demux.c this: > > > > > > if (dvbdmxfeed->descramble) > > > return -ENOSYS; > > > > > > and I deduced that this functionality wasn't available in the demux. So > I've > > > tried elsewhere in the VES1893, and I've made the mistake that you > > > explained. > > > What does it means? That the functionality is present but is not used > in the > > > driver implementation? > > > > The functionality would have to be implemented into the firmware. And who could do this?Siemens?Texas Instruments? Do you think that they will do, if asked? > > > > > Do you think that could be activated? What I think is that, if is > present, > > > should not be difficult to activate and use it. Form the demux part, it > must > > > be only written the functions to tell what control words have to be > used. > > > The rest is to make some software that implements the CA System part > that > > > manage ECM and EMM. > > > > The various CA systems are littered with patents and trade secrets. > > Any product implementing them would have to get the proper licenses. > > I am certainly not going to step into this legal minefield. > > Also for 'Remotely Keyed Encryption Schemes' of cryptolabs? > > > > > > Ralph > > > > > > Pino --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From markus128@gmx.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 09:14:00 +0100 (MET) From: Markus Schwierz To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: probs with driver 0.8.1 (make insmod) > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > Von: Reinhard Katzmann [mailto:suamor@gmx.net] > Gesendet: Montag, 12. Februar 2001 16:21 > An: linux-dvb > Betreff: [linux-dvb] Re: probs with driver 0.8.1 (make insmod) > > > > Hi Markus! > > On Mon, Feb 12, 2001 at 10:09:21AM +0100, Markus Schwierz wrote: > > Hello, > > > > when i try to make insmod with the driver 0.8.1 i get > > the following error messages: > > > > > videodev.o: unresolved symbol request_module > > dvb.o: unresolved symbol video_register_device > > dvb.o: unresolved symbol video_unregister_device > > SIOCSIFADDR: Kein passendes Gerät gefunden > > dvb0: unknown interface: Kein passendes Gerät gefunden > > make: *** [insmod] Error 255 > > bash-2.04# > > Hmm, it seems, there are some modules missing in this list, here > is mine: > insmod msp3400 > # ifconfig dvb0 192.168.0.163 > ) ... > sync > > > > I made make and makedev.napi in the driver direcory an got > > no error messages so far. My system is Suse 7.0 with kernel > > 2.2.16 and the Siemens dvbs card. The older driver versions > > (0.7.x - 0.8.0) work without any problems. > > This worked for me with the last version on 2.2.x, currently > on 2.4.x with devfs there some problems with how to name the > devices. So I cannot really say anything here... > > > Has anybody an idea what i've done wrong? > > s.a. > > Best regards, > > Reinhard Hi Reinhard, thanks for your help. I tried several things the last days: I loaded the modules manually, but the result was the same (videodev.o: unresolved symbol request_module/ dvb.o: unresolved symbol video_register_device> dvb.o: unresolved symbol video_unregister_device). Then i searched for older versions of the modules in my system and deleted them and compiled new. The last was to compile the cvs-version, but it did not work too. Maybe i should use a newer kernel? I didn't do that because i only have a 56k modem... but tonight i will start the download. If this does not help my last hope is a newer version of the driver. BTW: What is the difference between the (for me) working 0.8.0 - version and 0.8.1? Thanks, Markus -- Sent through GMX FreeMail - http://www.gmx.net --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From larosa@mail.eng.it Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 17:55:45 +0100 From: Giuseppe La Rosa To: Ralph Metzler Cc: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: TT-budget+ Smart card reader + PIII 700? > Giuseppe La Rosa writes: > > So, it could be possible to implements simple CA systems in the non-budget > > cards using this functionality of the AV7110? Cause I've noted in the > > dvb_demux.c this: > > > > if (dvbdmxfeed->descramble) > > return -ENOSYS; > > > > and I deduced that this functionality wasn't available in the demux. So I've > > tried elsewhere in the VES1893, and I've made the mistake that you > > explained. > > What does it means? That the functionality is present but is not used in the > > driver implementation? > > The functionality would have to be implemented into the firmware. And who could do this?Siemens?Texas Instruments? Do you think that they will do, if asked? > > > Do you think that could be activated? What I think is that, if is present, > > should not be difficult to activate and use it. Form the demux part, it must > > be only written the functions to tell what control words have to be used. > > The rest is to make some software that implements the CA System part that > > manage ECM and EMM. > > The various CA systems are littered with patents and trade secrets. > Any product implementing them would have to get the proper licenses. > I am certainly not going to step into this legal minefield. Also for 'Remotely Keyed Encryption Schemes' of cryptolabs? > > > Ralph > > > Pino --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From rjkm@convergence.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 13:08:39 +0100 (CET) From: Ralph Metzler To: Giuseppe La Rosa Cc: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: TT-budget+ Smart card reader + PIII 700? Giuseppe La Rosa writes: > > > tried elsewhere in the VES1893, and I've made the mistake that you > > > explained. > > > What does it means? That the functionality is present but is not used > in the > > > driver implementation? > > > > The functionality would have to be implemented into the firmware. > > And who could do this?Siemens?Texas Instruments? > Do you think that they will do, if asked? TI couldn't do it, because they probably don't have the rest of the card specific parts of the ARM code. It would have to be Siemens, Technotrend or us. > > > > > Do you think that could be activated? What I think is that, if is > present, > > > should not be difficult to activate and use it. Form the demux part, it > must > > > be only written the functions to tell what control words have to be > used. > > > The rest is to make some software that implements the CA System part > that > > > manage ECM and EMM. > > > > The various CA systems are littered with patents and trade secrets. > > Any product implementing them would have to get the proper licenses. > > I am certainly not going to step into this legal minefield. > > Also for 'Remotely Keyed Encryption Schemes' of cryptolabs? Hmm, don't all the pay TV services fall into the RKES category? And we can see how secure they made the low-bandwidth high security part of the scheme ... Ralph --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From boss@universal.com.ua Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 14:05:54 +0200 From: Evgeny Plehov To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] address for dvb0 interface [ The following text is in the "koi8-r" character set. ] [ Your display is set for the "ISO-8859-1" character set. ] [ Some characters may be displayed incorrectly. ] i install dvb-drivers and setup dvb0 interface with address 192.168.4.1 (default in makefile). may i change it address to any other not used address ? for example to 10.0.0.6 ? I try and it work :) Maybe it incorrect ? --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From larosa@euro2001.com Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 15:19:14 +0100 From: Giuseppe La Rosa To: Ralph Metzler Cc: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: TT-budget+ Smart card reader + PIII 700? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ralph Metzler" To: "Giuseppe La Rosa" Cc: Sent: Friday, February 16, 2001 1:08 PM Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: TT-budget+ Smart card reader + PIII 700? > Giuseppe La Rosa writes: > > > > tried elsewhere in the VES1893, and I've made the mistake that you > > > > explained. > > > > What does it means? That the functionality is present but is not used > > in the > > > > driver implementation? > > > > > > The functionality would have to be implemented into the firmware. > > > > And who could do this?Siemens?Texas Instruments? > > Do you think that they will do, if asked? > > > TI couldn't do it, because they probably don't have the rest of the > card specific parts of the ARM code. > It would have to be Siemens, Technotrend or us. > > I beg your pardon but I insist. :) Do you think that they will do, or you will do, if asked? :) > > > > > > > Do you think that could be activated? What I think is that, if is > > present, > > > > should not be difficult to activate and use it. Form the demux part, it > > must > > > > be only written the functions to tell what control words have to be > > used. > > > > The rest is to make some software that implements the CA System part > > that > > > > manage ECM and EMM. > > > > > > The various CA systems are littered with patents and trade secrets. > > > Any product implementing them would have to get the proper licenses. > > > I am certainly not going to step into this legal minefield. > > > > Also for 'Remotely Keyed Encryption Schemes' of cryptolabs? > > > Hmm, don't all the pay TV services fall into the RKES category? > And we can see how secure they made the low-bandwidth high security part > of the scheme ... > > > > Ralph > > > > --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From larosa@euro2001.com Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 15:19:14 +0100 From: Giuseppe La Rosa To: Ralph Metzler Cc: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: TT-budget+ Smart card reader + PIII 700? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ralph Metzler" To: "Giuseppe La Rosa" Cc: Sent: Friday, February 16, 2001 1:08 PM Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: TT-budget+ Smart card reader + PIII 700? > Giuseppe La Rosa writes: > > > > tried elsewhere in the VES1893, and I've made the mistake that you > > > > explained. > > > > What does it means? That the functionality is present but is not used > > in the > > > > driver implementation? > > > > > > The functionality would have to be implemented into the firmware. > > > > And who could do this?Siemens?Texas Instruments? > > Do you think that they will do, if asked? > > > TI couldn't do it, because they probably don't have the rest of the > card specific parts of the ARM code. > It would have to be Siemens, Technotrend or us. > > I beg your pardon but I insist. :) Do you think that they will do, or you will do, if asked? :) > > > > > > > Do you think that could be activated? What I think is that, if is > > present, > > > > should not be difficult to activate and use it. Form the demux part, it > > must > > > > be only written the functions to tell what control words have to be > > used. > > > > The rest is to make some software that implements the CA System part > > that > > > > manage ECM and EMM. > > > > > > The various CA systems are littered with patents and trade secrets. > > > Any product implementing them would have to get the proper licenses. > > > I am certainly not going to step into this legal minefield. > > > > Also for 'Remotely Keyed Encryption Schemes' of cryptolabs? > > > Hmm, don't all the pay TV services fall into the RKES category? > And we can see how secure they made the low-bandwidth high security part > of the scheme ... > > > > Ralph > > > > --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From Klaus.Schmidinger@cadsoft.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 17:54:00 +0100 From: Klaus Schmidinger To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] VDR and DVB-C I'm getting an increasing number of inquiries regarding the use of VDR with a DVB-C card. Since I don't have cable myself I was wondering if somebody with a DVB-C card could try the following with VDR (available at http://www.cadsoft.de/people/kls/vdr/download.htm): - load the driver and check whether you get a picture and sound (if not, the channel settings in your cable are different from what the driver sets as default, so you'll have to find out the frequency, symbol rate, VPID and APID settings yourself). - create a 'channels.conf' with the following content: Test1:394:h:0:6900:610:620:0:0 Test2:394:h:0:6900:610:620:0:0 - start VDR - in VDR's Setup menu change both LNB frequencies to 0 - switch between the two channels (they both have the same settings, this is just to make VDR actually call the SetChannel function). - if you get a picture and sound, try recording and playback Please let me know what happens. Klaus -- _______________________________________________________________ Klaus Schmidinger Phone: +49-8635-6989-10 CadSoft Computer GmbH Fax: +49-8635-6989-40 Hofmark 2 Email: kls@cadsoft.de D-84568 Pleiskirchen, Germany URL: www.cadsoft.de _______________________________________________________________ --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From rjkm@convergence.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 21:51:58 +0100 (CET) From: Ralph Metzler To: Evgeny Plehov Cc: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] address for dvb0 interface Evgeny Plehov writes: > i install dvb-drivers and setup dvb0 interface with address 192.168.4.1 > (default in makefile). > may i change it address to any other not used address ? for example to > 10.0.0.6 ? I try and it work :) > Maybe it incorrect ? Yes, you can use any free address you want. Ralph --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From anubis@ho.com Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2001 14:48:22 +0100 (CET) From: Igor Loncarevic To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] 2.2.18 + 0.8.1 dvb.o not loading Hello, I've upgraded from 2.2.17 to 2.2.18 and also wanted to upgrade DVB driver: and.. every modul load ok but dvb.o (the most important and used one): dvb.o: init_module: Device or resource busy Hint: insmod errors can be caused by incorrect module parameters, including invalid IO or IRQ parameters insmod: a module named tuner already exists SIOCSIFADDR: No such device dvb0: unknown interface: No such device ifconfig dvb0 shows non-existing hardware video4linux is not compiled in kernel Any1 familiar with this?? 10x, i --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From ms@citd.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2001 10:22:26 +0100 (MET) From: Matthias Schniedermeyer To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Master-Timer Hi If anyone is interested. I have completet Version "0.0.1" of "Master-Timer". This sweet-little Perl-Programm is for automatic recordings using the data from "epg.data" With Version 0.0.1 you get a "timer.conf" compatible list of Timers for the Titles listed in "title-torecord" Bis denn -- Real Programmers consider "what you see is what you get" to be just as bad a concept in Text Editors as it is in women. No, the Real Programmer wants a "you asked for it, you got it" text editor -- complicated, cryptic, powerful, unforgiving, dangerous. --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From ms@citd.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2001 10:34:25 +0100 (MET) From: Matthias Schniedermeyer To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Master-Timer (Take II) #include OK. Forgot the URL ftp://ftp.paderlinx.de/pub/citd Bis denn -- Real Programmers consider "what you see is what you get" to be just as bad a concept in Text Editors as it is in women. No, the Real Programmer wants a "you asked for it, you got it" text editor -- complicated, cryptic, powerful, unforgiving, dangerous. --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From anubis@ho.com Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2001 14:48:22 +0100 (CET) From: Igor Loncarevic To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] 2.2.18 + 0.8.1 dvb.o not loading Hello, I've upgraded from 2.2.17 to 2.2.18 and also wanted to upgrade DVB driver: and.. every modul load ok but dvb.o (the most important and used one): dvb.o: init_module: Device or resource busy Hint: insmod errors can be caused by incorrect module parameters, including invalid IO or IRQ parameters insmod: a module named tuner already exists SIOCSIFADDR: No such device dvb0: unknown interface: No such device ifconfig dvb0 shows non-existing hardware video4linux is not compiled in kernel Any1 familiar with this?? 10x, i --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From ms@citd.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2001 10:22:26 +0100 (MET) From: Matthias Schniedermeyer To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Master-Timer Hi If anyone is interested. I have completet Version "0.0.1" of "Master-Timer". This sweet-little Perl-Programm is for automatic recordings using the data from "epg.data" With Version 0.0.1 you get a "timer.conf" compatible list of Timers for the Titles listed in "title-torecord" Bis denn -- Real Programmers consider "what you see is what you get" to be just as bad a concept in Text Editors as it is in women. No, the Real Programmer wants a "you asked for it, you got it" text editor -- complicated, cryptic, powerful, unforgiving, dangerous. --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From ms@citd.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2001 10:34:25 +0100 (MET) From: Matthias Schniedermeyer To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Master-Timer (Take II) #include OK. Forgot the URL ftp://ftp.paderlinx.de/pub/citd Bis denn -- Real Programmers consider "what you see is what you get" to be just as bad a concept in Text Editors as it is in women. No, the Real Programmer wants a "you asked for it, you got it" text editor -- complicated, cryptic, powerful, unforgiving, dangerous. --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From anubis@ho.com Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2001 14:48:22 +0100 (CET) From: Igor Loncarevic To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] 2.2.18 + 0.8.1 dvb.o not loading Hello, I've upgraded from 2.2.17 to 2.2.18 and also wanted to upgrade DVB driver: and.. every modul load ok but dvb.o (the most important and used one): dvb.o: init_module: Device or resource busy Hint: insmod errors can be caused by incorrect module parameters, including invalid IO or IRQ parameters insmod: a module named tuner already exists SIOCSIFADDR: No such device dvb0: unknown interface: No such device ifconfig dvb0 shows non-existing hardware video4linux is not compiled in kernel Any1 familiar with this?? 10x, i --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From ms@citd.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2001 10:22:26 +0100 (MET) From: Matthias Schniedermeyer To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Master-Timer Hi If anyone is interested. I have completet Version "0.0.1" of "Master-Timer". This sweet-little Perl-Programm is for automatic recordings using the data from "epg.data" With Version 0.0.1 you get a "timer.conf" compatible list of Timers for the Titles listed in "title-torecord" Bis denn -- Real Programmers consider "what you see is what you get" to be just as bad a concept in Text Editors as it is in women. No, the Real Programmer wants a "you asked for it, you got it" text editor -- complicated, cryptic, powerful, unforgiving, dangerous. --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From ms@citd.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2001 10:34:25 +0100 (MET) From: Matthias Schniedermeyer To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Master-Timer (Take II) #include OK. Forgot the URL ftp://ftp.paderlinx.de/pub/citd Bis denn -- Real Programmers consider "what you see is what you get" to be just as bad a concept in Text Editors as it is in women. No, the Real Programmer wants a "you asked for it, you got it" text editor -- complicated, cryptic, powerful, unforgiving, dangerous. --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From Webmaster@internettest.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2001 21:03:54 +0100 From: Matthias Queisler To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Some Ideas Hi List, I have just installed the VDR Prog and it is fantastic. But I still have some wishes. - I want to play DivX ;-) and other MPEG movies from CD/DVD-ROM. That would be grate, and I don't have to buy such a big HD ;) - What about the support of a LCD instead of this not so good looking thing ;) - Why no MP3 Player including support for the LCD ?? Would be a real Multimedia Station - And support of a CD-Burner? To burn the recorded movies directly to a CD (maybe in DivX ;-) ) Any Ideas how to realize this or is it allready realized. Some ideas are a little bit far but why not? cu Matthias --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From Webmaster@internettest.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2001 23:05:49 +0100 From: Matthias Queisler To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Internet one other idea. What about a remote control over internet? So when you are on a vacation or so, that you can program your VDR. --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From Klaus.Schmidinger@cadsoft.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2001 23:23:11 +0100 From: Klaus Schmidinger To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: Internet Matthias Queisler wrote: > > one other idea. What about a remote control over internet? So when you are > on a vacation or so, that you can program your VDR. It's already there: take a look at the SVDRP interface ;-) kls@hawk:/home/kls > telnet video 2001 Trying 192.168.100.3... Connected to video.cadsoft.de. Escape character is '^]'. 220 video SVDRP VideoDiskRecorder 0.71; Sun Feb 18 23:22:18 2001 help lstt 214-LSTT [ ] 214- List timers. Without option, all timers are listed. Otherwise 214- only the given timer is listed. 214 End of HELP info lstt 250-1 1:15:M------:2128:2205:80:7:Neues: 250-2 1:10:-T-----:2058:2150:99:10:Quarks: 250-3 1:2:----F--:2113:2150:99:99:Der Doc: 250-4 1:1:----F--:2213:2325:50:20:7Tage7Koepfe: 250-5 1:7:-----S-:1828:1905:99:99:com.p@ss: 250-6 1:11:-----S-:2058:2135:99:99:Computer: 250-7 1:2:-----S-:2200:0015:99:30:Wochenshow: 250-8 1:11:------S:2014:2035:99:10:Centauri: 250-9 1:10:------S:2350:0040:99:99:Ja Uff erstmal: 250-10 1:15:MTWTF--:1828:1901:10:5:nano: 250-11 1:1:MTWTF--:1553:1710:99:99:Hammerman: 250-12 1:61:MTWTFSS:0001:0045:99:99:Hammerman: 250 13 1:55:-----SS:1845:1945:99:99:TimeTunnel: quit 221 video closing connection Connection closed by foreign host. kls@hawk:/home/kls > Klaus -- _______________________________________________________________ Klaus Schmidinger Phone: +49-8635-6989-10 CadSoft Computer GmbH Fax: +49-8635-6989-40 Hofmark 2 Email: kls@cadsoft.de D-84568 Pleiskirchen, Germany URL: www.cadsoft.de _______________________________________________________________ --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From markus128@gmx.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 11:15:58 +0100 (MET) From: Markus Schwierz To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: probs with driver 0.8.1 (make insmod) > Markus Schwierz wrote: > > Hi Markus! > Try cvs from linuxtv.org, I had this problem and now I have only > problem with radio channels(with VDR). > My Conf: > OS:RH7.0 > Kernel:2.4.2-pre2 > > With best regards, > Eugene Gres > > Thanks for your help. I tried the latest cvs-version, but it didn't work too. I'm going to wait for the next version. Maybe i will have more luck then. Anyway, thanks very much. Markus -- Sent through GMX FreeMail - http://www.gmx.net --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From rjkm@convergence.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 16:53:54 +0100 (CET) From: Ralph Metzler To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] DVB CVS Hi, the DVB driver in the CVS tree at http://www.linuxtv.org/cvs is now divided into two branches, a 0.8.x branch called "DVB-0-8" (which means you have to retrieve it with "-r DVB-0-8") and the main CVS trunk which continues with versions 0.9.x. There will still be new 0.8.x versions but only for bugfixes. I will release the current CVS snapshot as DVB-0.8.2. In the 0.9.x versions I will make use of the new features Linux 2.4 has to offer. Dragging the 2.2.x stuff along with a lot of ifdefs just isn't possible with all the changes I have in mind. I'll also make diffs against current 2.4.x kernels available which will allow the integration of the DVB drivers into the kernel tree. Ralph --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From Webmaster@internettest.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 19:27:32 +0100 From: Matthias Queisler To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Umwandeln How to convert the vdr Data into MPEG2 or DivX ;-). Which format is it? --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From Klaus.Schmidinger@cadsoft.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 23:40:46 +0100 From: Klaus Schmidinger To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: Umwandeln Matthias Queisler wrote: > > How to convert the vdr Data into MPEG2 or DivX ;-). Which format is it? The VDR video files (001.vdr, 002.vdr,...) contain the PES data delivered by the DVB-driver, which is supposed to be "MEPG2". Klaus -- _______________________________________________________________ Klaus Schmidinger Phone: +49-8635-6989-10 CadSoft Computer GmbH Fax: +49-8635-6989-40 Hofmark 2 Email: kls@cadsoft.de D-84568 Pleiskirchen, Germany URL: www.cadsoft.de _______________________________________________________________ --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From mocm@convergence.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 23:59:44 +0100 (CET) From: Marcus O.C. Metzler To: Klaus Schmidinger Cc: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: Umwandeln Klaus Schmidinger writes: > Matthias Queisler wrote: > > > > How to convert the vdr Data into MPEG2 or DivX ;-). Which format is it? > > The VDR video files (001.vdr, 002.vdr,...) contain the PES data > delivered by the DVB-driver, which is supposed to be "MEPG2". > As a small reminder: Some information about the different stream types: 1) Elementary stream (ES): is the stream that contains the actual compressed audio and video data, like I, P, B-Frames etc., with respective headers and some other information. 2) Packetized elementary stream (PES): is composed of Packets containing ES data. The packets have headers, that specify the respective ES data, like 0x000001E0 for the first video stream. The header also holds the packet length and stuff like the PTS. 3) Program Stream (PS): mainly contains PES packets with some additional packets containing some more information for the decoder, like the SCR, buffer sizes and mux rates. PSs are used by DVDs and distributed .vob files. 4) Transport Stream (TS): is composed of packets that all have the same size (188bytes). They all start with 0x47. The packets are identified by their PID. Some of them contain audio and video data in the form of PES packets which are spread over many packets of size 188 bytes. Other packets contain sections which contain various things like the PMT, the PAT or videotext data. A TS is meant for transporting data over networks. 5) AV_PES: is the format used by the Siemens (Technotrend) DVB card internally. The audio AV_PES packets contain audio PES packets with a header that tells you wether there is a PTS in the packet. The video packets are video PES packets without the PES header (that really means the are ES streams) with a header that may contain a PTS. The data originally comes from a TS, but has already been processed by the decoder and is read from the decoders buffer. For the dvb drivers (old api) it is possible to choose the output format when loading the modules. Right now AFAIK vdr uses the PS that comes from the driver. The new dvb api defines a dvr device (digital video recorder) that is based on the native DVB format namely TS (thats the way it is sent over the air). It is very unfortunate that the hardware manufacturers chose not to implement a direct way to get the TS from the cardn thats why we got this AV_PES format. Otherwise you would just record the TS stream and also get all the other nice information like teletext, EPG etc. in one nicely muxed stream. (If you have a Haupauge Nova than you can get this) Marcus --------------------------------------------------------------------- Dr. Marcus Metzler mocm@netcologne.de http://www.metzlerbros.de mocm@convergence.de http://www.convergence.de Convergence Integrated Media GmbH Rosenthaler Str. 51 D-10178 Berlin --------------------------------------------------------------------- --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From kcraigie@mediabolic.com Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 15:34:13 -0800 (PST) From: Keith Craigie To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] dsm-cc format Hi, This may not be the right list to ask this on, so please point me to a correct one if it is not. Does anyone know a good way to sync DSM-CC packets in a transport stream? There is no sync byte defined for DSM-CC in the spec, so I'm finding it difficult to filter out bad packets. Any help would be appreciated, Keith -- Keith Craigie R&D Mediabolic, Inc. 415-346-2270 x115 --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From marcus@kuba4u.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 07:35:54 GMT From: Marcus Kuba To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: NOVA and VDR (was: Re: Umwandeln) Am 19.02.01, schrieb "Marcus O.C. Metzler" ... > like teletext, EPG etc. in one nicely muxed stream. (If you have a > Haupauge Nova than you can get this) As you mention it... does VDR work with a NOVA as secondary card? Since I only can watch one program at a time I think it shouldn't be necessary to buy multiple cards with MPEG decoders builtin when only one decoder is ever used to display something. So it comes to mind that a NOVA or similar would be sufficient for just recording and EPG-scanning. Unfortunately those cheaper cards don't have the possibility for the CI-interface, but I think with most of the pay-tv-channels (due to their frequent re-scheduling) it should be possible to schedule recordings for the primary card at times you don't need the display :-) Greetings, Marcus --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From JGroth@gmx.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 21:54:40 +0100 From: Jens Groth To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Minimum system Hallo, im trying to setup SuSE linux for VDR. What is the minimum system that is required to run? Could anyboby post a list of the required packages? Cu Jens Groth --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From Carsten.Koch@icem.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 11:23:15 +0100 From: Carsten Koch Cc: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: Minimum system Jens Groth wrote: > > Hallo, > > im trying to setup SuSE linux for VDR. > What is the minimum system that is required to run? I had vdr sort-of running on a PentiumPro 150 MHz with 64MB of RAM. With a SCSI disk this worked OK, with a UDMA controller and an IDE disk it was almost OK. That's about a year ago, though, so your mileage may vary with today's versions. I had recently used vdr on a Pentium III 450 MHz and IDE disks without UDMA, which caused vdr to become so busy during fast-forward that it would no longer respond to any remote control commands. So a relatively high band width to your disks is a requirement. > Could anyboby post a list of the required packages? As long as you install the kernel sources and gcc you should be OK. Carsten. --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From Rolf.Hakenes@Micronas.com Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 11:48:56 +0100 From: Hakenes Rolf To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Section Filters Hi ! I'm experimenting with the DVB-SI datastream for quite a long time now in order to extract useful information out of it. Dealing with this some questions came up concerning the meaning and usage of the API built-in section filter mechanism. Both APIs provide (theoretically) the possibility to define a mask value on a specified TID as well as multiple TIDs (up to 16 AFAIK) per filter. Unfortunately I was not able to get any working setup for a filter using these (undocumented) features. Therefore I'd like to ask someone (who possibly knows) about the meaning and implementation status of the described fields of the filter structures. Many thanx in advance Rolf Hakenes --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From js@convergence.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 12:53:38 +0100 From: Johannes Stezenbach To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: dsm-cc format Keith Craigie wrote: > > Does anyone know a good way to sync DSM-CC > packets in a transport stream? There is no sync byte defined for DSM-CC > in the spec, so I'm finding it difficult to filter out bad packets. I don't know what you mean by "sync byte". DSM-CC data is carried in MPEG2 private sections. If the section_syntax_indicator bit of the section is set to 1, then there is a 32 bit CRC for detecting transmission errors. Unfortunately, the DSM-CC via MPEG2 standard makea the use of the CRC optional, but encourages it. Details can be found in ISO 13818-6. Johannes --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From js@convergence.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 13:05:34 +0100 From: Johannes Stezenbach To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: Section Filters Hakenes Rolf wrote: > > I'm experimenting with the DVB-SI datastream for quite a long time now in > order to extract useful information out of it. Dealing with this some > questions came up concerning the meaning and usage of the API built-in > section filter mechanism. Both APIs provide (theoretically) the possibility > to define a mask value on a specified TID as well as multiple TIDs (up to 16 > AFAIK) per filter. Unfortunately I was not able to get any working setup for > a filter using these (undocumented) features. Therefore I'd like to ask > someone (who possibly knows) about the meaning and implementation status of > the described fields of the filter structures. Here's what's missing from the documentation of the demux device of the new API: -------- The dmxFilter structure defines a section filter, i.e. a bit pattern and a mask for the first bytes of a section. The filter comprises 16 bytes covering byte 0 and bytes 3..17 in a section, thus excluding bytes 1 and 2 (the length field of a section). The mask states which bits to be used for filtering, and the filter states the actual value of these bits. Only the value of the bits where the corresponding mask bit is 1 will be checked. -------- Byte 0 in the filter is the table id. Johannes --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From shakey@zaiste.com Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 14:32:10 +0100 From: shakey To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] drivers, dvbd2 and much more.. (problem with ping) hey i was trying to set up my dvb card.. and.. now i've got interface dvb0 now i'm running dvbd2 and dvbd2 says that Sync is 127.. so everything is ok but in my dvbd.conf i've got: filter_0 512 filter_2 786 00:11:22:33:44:55 ..and the problem /var/log/syslog: Feb 20 13:22:15 dreadnet dvbd[7508]: ioctl SETBFILTER[0]: Bad address Feb 20 13:22:15 dreadnet dvbd[7508]: ioctl SETBFILTER[2]: Bad address what's wrong? in result i get no ping response from EON proxy.. help me please... it's second week and dvb is still not working... --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From clemens@root.at Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 15:59:48 +0100 From: Clemens Kirchgatterer To: JGroth@gmx.de Cc: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: Minimum system Jens Groth wrote: > Could anyboby post a list of the required packages? i had it running on a linux box that had: kernel, lilo, bash, vi, vdr, lirc, dvb, insmod, ld and an init-script. of course the programms need some libs that were also installed (simply copyed from the mashine i compiled dvb & vdr on). no runnlevels, no users no login. that thing booted really fast!!! ;-) clemens --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From Hans-Peter.Raschke@Wintermann-DatenService.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 11:06:04 +0100 From: Hans-Peter Raschke To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Error in DVB/libdvb/DVB.cc Hi all, I used the Program stest.cc for scaning channels with my DVB-c. The resulting list of channels contained the same frequency for all transponders. The problem is located in the method DVB::scan_tp. Before executing the while-loop t.freq ist correct. But afterwards it is wrong. For my purpose I used a temporary Variable and restored the frequency-setting after the loop. But this is only a short hack and not the correct way. This modifaction produced a usable channel table, which could also be used for VDR. Hans-Peter -- Hans-Peter Raschke E-Mail: Hans-Peter.Raschke@Wintermann-DatenService.de Wintermann DatenService Tel.: +49 441 9304064 Langenweg 16 Fax: +49 441 9304069 D-26125 Oldenburg --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From kcraigie@mediabolic.com Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 08:53:19 -0800 (PST) From: Keith Craigie To: Johannes Stezenbach Cc: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: dsm-cc format > I don't know what you mean by "sync byte". What I meant was some sort of identity field or semblance thereof which allowed one to properly scan a bytestream for the start of the DSM-CC packet/section. > DSM-CC data is carried in MPEG2 private sections. If the > section_syntax_indicator bit of the section is set to 1, > then there is a 32 bit CRC for detecting transmission errors. > Unfortunately, the DSM-CC via MPEG2 standard makea the use > of the CRC optional, but encourages it. The DSM-CC data (specifically, DSM-CC addressable packets) in this case is being carried in the payload of a transport stream, which in turn originates from the DTV hardware (PCI card). Where is this "section_syntax_indicator" of which you speak? It's not in the DSM-CC addressable section or TS headers? There's a checksum/CRC32 bit in the DSM-CC header with a 32-bit field terminating the packet, but you're right, in my experience it's rarely used. My problem is that if I receive a bad transport stream packet, which for example, contains the beginning of the next DSM-CC section, and I merrily continue extracting the TS payload, I'll not know that the beginning of the DSM-CC packet is missing. That is to say, there's no field in the header I can assume to be a given value in all cases (ie. identity field). Keith --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From Hans-Peter.Raschke@Wintermann-DatenService.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 10:44:36 +0100 From: Hans-Peter Raschke To: Klaus Schmidinger Cc: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: VDR and DVB-C Klaus Schmidinger wrote: > > I'm getting an increasing number of inquiries regarding the use of > VDR with a DVB-C card. Since I don't have cable myself I was wondering > if somebody with a DVB-C card could try the following with VDR > (available at http://www.cadsoft.de/people/kls/vdr/download.htm): > > - load the driver and check whether you get a picture and sound > (if not, the channel settings in your cable are different from > what the driver sets as default, so you'll have to find out > the frequency, symbol rate, VPID and APID settings yourself). > - create a 'channels.conf' with the following content: > > Test1:394:h:0:6900:610:620:0:0 > Test2:394:h:0:6900:610:620:0:0 > > - start VDR > - in VDR's Setup menu change both LNB frequencies to 0 > - switch between the two channels (they both have the same settings, > this is just to make VDR actually call the SetChannel function). > - if you get a picture and sound, try recording and playback > > Please let me know what happens. > > Klaus nothing ;-) But with a slight Modification of dvbapi.c switching of channels is possible. bool cDvbApi::SetChannel(int ChannelNumber, int FrequencyMHz, char Polarization, int Diseqc, int Srate, int Vpid, int Ap{ ... front.fec = 8; front.AFC = 1; front.qam = 2; ioctl(videoDev, VIDIOCSFRONTEND, &front); if (front.sync & 0x1F == 0x1F) { ... I used a constant value for qam, but I think it would be better placed in channels.conf. If you are willing to support the DVB-cable, you can find in DVB/libdvb/DVB.cc code how this can be achieved. There is a ChannelSet-subroutine, which is similar to yours. In DVB/libdvb/stest.c you can find a program to scan channels. I used it (with a litte correction) to scan for channels with my DVB-c. Afterwards I converted the generated list with a small perl-script to a channels.conf: #!/usr/bin/perl # Name:Freq in MHz:h:0:SRATE/1000:VPID:APID:0:0 # Test1:394:h:0:6900:110:120:0:0 # Test2:394:h:0:6900:610:620:0:0 use strict; my $name = ""; my $freq = 0; my $srate = 0; my $vpid = 0; my $apid = 0; my $ca = 0; while (<>) { chomp; if (/^\s*TRANSPONDER/) { ($freq) = /FREQ\s+(\d+)/; ($srate) = /SRATE\s+(\d+)/; } elsif (/^\s*CHANNEL.+NAME\s+\"(.+)\"/) { $name = $1; $name =~ s/\206//g; $name =~ s/\207//g; $name =~ s/\005//g; ($vpid) = /VPID\s+([\da-fA-F]+)/; ($apid) = /APID\s+([\da-fA-F]+)/; ($ca) = /TYPE\s+(\d+)/; print "$name:", $freq/1000000, ":h:0:", $srate/1000, ":", hex($vpid), ":", hex($apid), ":$ca:0\n"; } } The resulting channels.conf worked (switching and recording), but I couldn't test everything (encrypted channels). If somebody is interested in this file I can post it on this list. Han-Peter -- Hans-Peter Raschke E-Mail: Hans-Peter.Raschke@Wintermann-DatenService.de Wintermann DatenService Tel.: +49 441 9304064 Langenweg 16 Fax: +49 441 9304069 D-26125 Oldenburg --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From tobias@mylan.org Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 17:41:58 +0100 From: Tobias Hauth To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] vdr and linux 2.4.1 hi is there anybody with an working vdr with kernel 2.4.1. i tried to compile vdr (0.71pre9 0.71pre7 0.70) with dvb version 0.81 and several cvs-versions. but compiling doesnt work (many errormessages). with kernel 2.4.0 i have no problems (and my 2.4.1 kernel has nearly the same config (and i tried some other configs). thx for help tobias p.s.: sorry for my bad english ,-) --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From js@convergence.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 18:18:10 +0100 From: Johannes Stezenbach To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: dsm-cc format Keith Craigie wrote: > > The DSM-CC data (specifically, DSM-CC addressable packets) in this case is > being carried in the payload of a transport stream, which in turn > originates from the DTV hardware (PCI card). Where is this > "section_syntax_indicator" of which you speak? It's not in the DSM-CC > addressable section or TS headers? There's a checksum/CRC32 bit in the > DSM-CC header with a 32-bit field terminating the packet, but you're > right, in my experience it's rarely used. ETSI document EN 301 192 "DVB specification for data broadcasting" defines various ways to put data in MPEG2 transport streams. IIRC, DSM-CC-over-MPEG2 is layered on top of the MPEG2 section structure defined in ISO 13818-1, namely the "private section syntax". I can't help you any further, as I am not an expert in this area. Reading the standard documents might help you. Johannes --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From dave@dchapman.com Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 17:28:45 +0000 From: Dave Chapman To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Announcing: DVBaudio v0.1 (a hacked mpegtools) I've been hacking Marcus's mpegtools (from v0.8.1) a little, and have written a utility which can be used to record a radio station (or the sound from a TV station if you wish) directly as an audio elementary stream. - i.e. an "mpeg" file that freeamp or mpg123 can understand directly. It can also be used as a "cgi-bin" program to stream audio data over your LAN to either mpg123 or freeamp using http. It can be downloaded from: http://www.linuxstb.org/dvbaudio/ The code is 99% from mpegtools - I'm distributing it again for simplicity. Maybe this should be merged with the "official" mpegtools? The difference between dvbaudio and mpegtools are simple a new function "TS_to_ES" in cpptools.cc (a combination of TS_to_PES and extract_es_audio_from_pes) and a replacement main.cc. I've only tested the http streaming with a couple of radio stations on Astra 28E and Freeamp v2.0.7 on a Win98 machine. However, it seems to work perfectly without any corruption to the audio. I would welcome any feedback on this program - especially it's (and freeamp's) compatibility with different radio/TV stations. Regards, Dave. --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From clemens@root.at Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 14:28:39 +0100 From: Clemens Kirchgatterer To: Tobias Hauth Cc: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: vdr and linux 2.4.1 Tobias Hauth wrote: > > hi > > is there anybody with an working vdr with kernel 2.4.1. > i tried to compile vdr (0.71pre9 0.71pre7 0.70) with dvb version 0.81 and > several cvs-versions. but compiling doesnt work (many errormessages). > with kernel 2.4.0 i have no problems (and my 2.4.1 kernel has nearly the > same config (and i tried some other configs). i compiled dvb 0.81 against kernel 2.4.1 and got no errors at all. the drivers also work without problems ... strange! warm regards ... clemens --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From axelgruber2@gmx.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 00:34:00 +0100 From: Axel Gruber To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] ÿSO-8859-1?Q?2_Streams_zusammenfügen? German: Ich erhalte vom TREIBER/VDR 1 GB Stücke (bei einem Film eben 1-5 Stück) - ist es möglich diese zu einer "großen" Datei zusammenzufügen ? Wenn ja - womit ? Vielen Dank schon mal ! English: If i record with the DVB-S Driver and the VDR i get 1-5 files with the sice of 1 GB at at each Movie - is it possible to make out of these 5 1GB Files one "big" File with 5 GB and all Video-Files in it ! - If it´s possilbe - how can i do this ? Grüße aus Bayern Axel Gruber --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From ms@citd.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 00:53:38 +0100 (MET) From: Matthias Schniedermeyer To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Master-Timer 0.0.2 #include I've just released Version 0.0.2 of my Master-Timer - New in this Version is the capability to read/write directly to VDR via SVDR This version is (or should be) "Fully usable" for automatic insertion of timers into VDR. To use this feature you have to uncomment the command "#&transfertimers" on line 52 and "correct" the "$Dest"-Value on line 39 If you don't want Master-Timer to detect "timer clashes" with existing timers, just comment out Line 47 ("&fetchVDRTimers();"), that doesn't have any drawbacks, only VDR "warns" that the Timer already existed when Master-Timer tries to insert the "new" Timer. ftp://ftp.paderlinx.de/pub/citd/master-timer-0.0.2.tar.gz Bis denn -- Real Programmers consider "what you see is what you get" to be just as bad a concept in Text Editors as it is in women. No, the Real Programmer wants a "you asked for it, you got it" text editor -- complicated, cryptic, powerful, unforgiving, dangerous. --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From Klaus.Schmidinger@cadsoft.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 08:38:48 +0100 From: Klaus Schmidinger To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: (No subject) ÿSO-8859-1?Q?2_Streams_zusammenfügen? Axel Gruber wrote: > > German: > > Ich erhalte vom TREIBER/VDR 1 GB Stücke (bei einem Film eben 1-5 Stück) - ist es möglich diese zu einer "großen" Datei zusammenzufügen ? > > Wenn ja - womit ? > > Vielen Dank schon mal ! > > English: > > If i record with the DVB-S Driver and the VDR i get 1-5 files with the sice of 1 GB at at each Movie - is it possible to make out of these 5 1GB Files one "big" File with 5 GB and all Video-Files in it ! - If it´s possilbe - how can i do this ? cat 0*.vdr > largefile.mpg This assumes that your OS supports files larger than 4GB. Klaus -- _______________________________________________________________ Klaus Schmidinger Phone: +49-8635-6989-10 CadSoft Computer GmbH Fax: +49-8635-6989-40 Hofmark 2 Email: kls@cadsoft.de D-84568 Pleiskirchen, Germany URL: www.cadsoft.de _______________________________________________________________ --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From nic@sig.co.za Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 12:16:25 +0000 From: Nic Roets To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Audio encoders buggy ? I have written a Linux driver for a DVB card. The Windows drivers only supports IP over DVB, but I conviced the card to give me audio data as well. The packets aren't at the transport stream level, because they don't contain the PIDs, and they can be up to 3000 or 4000 bytes each. I can cat the data to mpg123 and hear the radio station, but there are way too many glitches. There are basically 3 kinds of packets : 0 0 0 0 5 x x x x x FF FC A4 ... (Typically 448 bytes long) 0 0 x x x ... (Any length) x x x x ... (Any length) Within some of the longer packets, I can see 2 MPEG audio headers (FF FC A4 XX ) or more in some cases. However, it frequently happens (1 in 5 times) that the two headers are less than 576 bytes apart (e.g. 503 bytes). So the decoder (e.g. mpg123) moans because it expects the next frame after 576 bytes. Is the encoders used to generate the stream buggy, or is it my receiver card ? I've checked the CRCs (with maplay) on some of the frames, but they are ussually OK, I suppose because they only cover the first part of the frame. I've tried 0 padding the shorter frames and althu the sound is quite understandable, it is still not what you'd expect from digital. Any hints on how to put the stream together, or hack the decoder ? Actually any info on how these packets are built from TS packets will be usefull ! -- Binary/unsupported file stripped by Listar -- -- Type: text/x-vcard -- File: nic.vcf -- Desc: Card for Nic Roets --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From suse@wolfsoft.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 10:06:53 +0100 From: Klaus Wolf To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] no irdeto i have installed: -suse 7.1 (Kernel 2.2.18) -dvb 0.8.1 -lirc (current cvs snapshot) -vdr 0.7 -1xHaupauge DVB-s -Cam Module -Irdedo with Premiere Card I can see the Premiere Channels, but if i switch for a while, suddenly no premiere channels are displayed. :-) Only black screen on premiere. All other Free TV Channels are working fine. thanks klaus --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From Rolf.Hakenes@Micronas.com Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 15:04:09 +0100 From: Hakenes Rolf To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] AW: no irdeto Hi Klaus, I have a very similar setup to watch Premiere programs, and this works fine for me, beside the following weird effects: 1) After first startup one has to reset the CI-CAM by removing and re-installing it (this is no problem with only one DVB-card). 2) When switching to a non-decryptable channel (Mediaguard or similar) the decrypter hangs (no more Betacrypt programs) and the same procedure applies to reset the CI-CAM 3) Only the dvb 0.8.1 and dvb 0.7.1 driver work with the CI-CAM. Neither 0.8.0 nor the CVS snapshot (some weeks ago) show the desired decrypted contents. regards Rolf > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > Von: Klaus Wolf [SMTP:suse@wolfsoft.de] > Gesendet am: Mittwoch, 21. Februar 2001 10:07 > An: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org > Betreff: [linux-dvb] no irdeto > > i have installed: > > -suse 7.1 (Kernel 2.2.18) > -dvb 0.8.1 > -lirc (current cvs snapshot) > -vdr 0.7 > -1xHaupauge DVB-s > -Cam Module > -Irdedo with Premiere Card > > I can see the Premiere Channels, but if i switch for a while, suddenly no > premiere channels are displayed. :-) > Only black screen on premiere. All other Free TV Channels are working > fine. > > > thanks > > klaus > > > > > > --- > Info: > To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe > linux-dvb" as subject. --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From andreas.oster@novanetwork.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 15:26:09 +0100 From: Andreas Oster To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Problem with DVB-driver 0.8.1and Hauppauge DVB-s Hi there everybody, i am new in this forum/mailinglist and therefore not shure if my problem was discussed in a former thread. I looked around for a while but could not find anything appropriate. I have following difficulties with the current DVB-driver 0.8.1: i am using a Hauppauge DVB-s card and had no problems compiling the driver, nore have there been any crutial error messages, but when i load the driver with "make insmod" there is only some flickering on the attatched TV-screen. afterwards the screen remains black. the driver adds some lines to the logfile: Feb 21 12:52:22 first kernel: i2c-core.o: i2c core module Feb 21 12:52:22 first kernel: Linux video capture interface: v1.00 Feb 21 12:52:22 first kernel: saa7146_core.o: saa7146(1): bus:0, rev:1, mem:0xe0147e00. Feb 21 12:52:23 first kernel: VES1893: attaching VES1893 at 0x10 to adapter saa7146(1) Feb 21 12:52:25 first kernel: dvb: ARM firmware successfully loaded. Feb 21 12:52:26 first kernel: outcommand error 1 Feb 21 12:52:26 first kernel: commandrequest error Feb 21 12:52:26 first kernel: dvb: firmware = dc30e0a5 Feb 21 12:52:26 first kernel: dvb: MAC = 00 d0 5c 1f 30 b3 Feb 21 12:52:26 first kernel: dvb: 1 dvb(s) found! Feb 21 12:52:26 first kernel: tuner: chip found @ 0x61 Feb 21 12:52:27 first kernel: outcommand error 1 Feb 21 12:52:28 first kernel: dvb: ARM RESET Feb 21 12:52:29 first kernel: outcommand error 1 Feb 21 12:52:31 first last message repeated 2 times Feb 21 12:52:32 first kernel: dvb: ARM RESET Feb 21 12:52:33 first kernel: outcommand error 1 Feb 21 12:52:35 first last message repeated 2 times Feb 21 12:52:35 first kernel: dvb: ARM RESET Feb 21 12:52:36 first kernel: outcommand error 1 Feb 21 12:52:38 first last message repeated 2 times Feb 21 12:52:39 first kernel: dvb: ARM RESET Feb 21 12:52:42 first kernel: outcommand error 1 I hope that someone out there can help me with this problem. ps: i am using a 2.2.18 kernel. Andreas Oster --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From nic@sig.co.za Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 12:16:25 +0000 From: Nic Roets To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Audio encoders buggy ? I have written a Linux driver for a DVB card. The Windows drivers only supports IP over DVB, but I conviced the card to give me audio data as well. The packets aren't at the transport stream level, because they don't contain the PIDs, and they can be up to 3000 or 4000 bytes each. I can cat the data to mpg123 and hear the radio station, but there are way too many glitches. There are basically 3 kinds of packets : 0 0 0 0 5 x x x x x FF FC A4 ... (Typically 448 bytes long) 0 0 x x x ... (Any length) x x x x ... (Any length) Within some of the longer packets, I can see 2 MPEG audio headers (FF FC A4 XX ) or more in some cases. However, it frequently happens (1 in 5 times) that the two headers are less than 576 bytes apart (e.g. 503 bytes). So the decoder (e.g. mpg123) moans because it expects the next frame after 576 bytes. Is the encoders used to generate the stream buggy, or is it my receiver card ? I've checked the CRCs (with maplay) on some of the frames, but they are ussually OK, I suppose because they only cover the first part of the frame. I've tried 0 padding the shorter frames and althu the sound is quite understandable, it is still not what you'd expect from digital. Any hints on how to put the stream together, or hack the decoder ? Actually any info on how these packets are built from TS packets will be usefull ! -- Binary/unsupported file stripped by Listar -- -- Type: text/x-vcard -- File: nic.vcf -- Desc: Card for Nic Roets --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From suse@wolfsoft.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 10:06:53 +0100 From: Klaus Wolf To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] no irdeto i have installed: -suse 7.1 (Kernel 2.2.18) -dvb 0.8.1 -lirc (current cvs snapshot) -vdr 0.7 -1xHaupauge DVB-s -Cam Module -Irdedo with Premiere Card I can see the Premiere Channels, but if i switch for a while, suddenly no premiere channels are displayed. :-) Only black screen on premiere. All other Free TV Channels are working fine. thanks klaus --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From Rolf.Hakenes@Micronas.com Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 15:04:09 +0100 From: Hakenes Rolf To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] AW: no irdeto Hi Klaus, I have a very similar setup to watch Premiere programs, and this works fine for me, beside the following weird effects: 1) After first startup one has to reset the CI-CAM by removing and re-installing it (this is no problem with only one DVB-card). 2) When switching to a non-decryptable channel (Mediaguard or similar) the decrypter hangs (no more Betacrypt programs) and the same procedure applies to reset the CI-CAM 3) Only the dvb 0.8.1 and dvb 0.7.1 driver work with the CI-CAM. Neither 0.8.0 nor the CVS snapshot (some weeks ago) show the desired decrypted contents. regards Rolf > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > Von: Klaus Wolf [SMTP:suse@wolfsoft.de] > Gesendet am: Mittwoch, 21. Februar 2001 10:07 > An: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org > Betreff: [linux-dvb] no irdeto > > i have installed: > > -suse 7.1 (Kernel 2.2.18) > -dvb 0.8.1 > -lirc (current cvs snapshot) > -vdr 0.7 > -1xHaupauge DVB-s > -Cam Module > -Irdedo with Premiere Card > > I can see the Premiere Channels, but if i switch for a while, suddenly no > premiere channels are displayed. :-) > Only black screen on premiere. All other Free TV Channels are working > fine. > > > thanks > > klaus > > > > > > --- > Info: > To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe > linux-dvb" as subject. --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From andreas.oster@novanetwork.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 15:26:09 +0100 From: Andreas Oster To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Problem with DVB-driver 0.8.1and Hauppauge DVB-s Hi there everybody, i am new in this forum/mailinglist and therefore not shure if my problem was discussed in a former thread. I looked around for a while but could not find anything appropriate. I have following difficulties with the current DVB-driver 0.8.1: i am using a Hauppauge DVB-s card and had no problems compiling the driver, nore have there been any crutial error messages, but when i load the driver with "make insmod" there is only some flickering on the attatched TV-screen. afterwards the screen remains black. the driver adds some lines to the logfile: Feb 21 12:52:22 first kernel: i2c-core.o: i2c core module Feb 21 12:52:22 first kernel: Linux video capture interface: v1.00 Feb 21 12:52:22 first kernel: saa7146_core.o: saa7146(1): bus:0, rev:1, mem:0xe0147e00. Feb 21 12:52:23 first kernel: VES1893: attaching VES1893 at 0x10 to adapter saa7146(1) Feb 21 12:52:25 first kernel: dvb: ARM firmware successfully loaded. Feb 21 12:52:26 first kernel: outcommand error 1 Feb 21 12:52:26 first kernel: commandrequest error Feb 21 12:52:26 first kernel: dvb: firmware = dc30e0a5 Feb 21 12:52:26 first kernel: dvb: MAC = 00 d0 5c 1f 30 b3 Feb 21 12:52:26 first kernel: dvb: 1 dvb(s) found! Feb 21 12:52:26 first kernel: tuner: chip found @ 0x61 Feb 21 12:52:27 first kernel: outcommand error 1 Feb 21 12:52:28 first kernel: dvb: ARM RESET Feb 21 12:52:29 first kernel: outcommand error 1 Feb 21 12:52:31 first last message repeated 2 times Feb 21 12:52:32 first kernel: dvb: ARM RESET Feb 21 12:52:33 first kernel: outcommand error 1 Feb 21 12:52:35 first last message repeated 2 times Feb 21 12:52:35 first kernel: dvb: ARM RESET Feb 21 12:52:36 first kernel: outcommand error 1 Feb 21 12:52:38 first last message repeated 2 times Feb 21 12:52:39 first kernel: dvb: ARM RESET Feb 21 12:52:42 first kernel: outcommand error 1 I hope that someone out there can help me with this problem. ps: i am using a 2.2.18 kernel. Andreas Oster --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From Emil.Naepflein@philosys.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 16:14:51 +0100 From: Emil Naepflein To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: no irdeto On Wed, 21 Feb 2001 10:06:53 +0100, "Klaus Wolf" wrote: > i have installed: > > -suse 7.1 (Kernel 2.2.18) > -dvb 0.8.1 > -lirc (current cvs snapshot) > -vdr 0.7 > -1xHaupauge DVB-s > -Cam Module > -Irdedo with Premiere Card > > I can see the Premiere Channels, but if i switch for a while, suddenly no > premiere channels are displayed. :-) > Only black screen on premiere. All other Free TV Channels are working fine. > This may be a problem of the CAM module. This happens sometimes with normal SAT Receivers, too. Some CAMs have heat problems and some with the quarz for the serial interface. You may find more information at some of the sat boards like http://www.satellite-board.de . Emil --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From ackermann@cms.tecmath.com Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 11:57:05 +0100 From: Christoph Ackermann To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] DVB over Ethernet ? Hi ! Does anybody have expierience with Linux VDR and recording/streaming video over 100Mb Ethernet to a dedicated filserver? This would be nice for a convenient noiselevel in your livingroom. Regards, Christoph -- ________________________________________________________________________ Christoph Ackermann ] t e c m a t h [ System Integration Engineer Content Management Systems Division phone +49 6301 606-200 Sauerwiesen 2, 67661 Kaiserslautern, Germany fax +49 6301 606-209 http://www.tecmath.com ________________________________________________________________________ --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From axelgruber2@gmx.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 17:17:24 +0100 (MET) From: Axel Gruber To: Christoph Ackermann Cc: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: DVB over Ethernet ? Hi Works without any Problem ! - 10MBIT work for playing only - for fast Forward and Backward you need a 100MBIT ! I use a 100MBIT with a Switch (so i can run the Network full Duplex) - without any Problmes. CU PS: If you want futher Info´s - you can contact me by Mail -- Sent through GMX FreeMail - http://www.gmx.net --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From axelgruber2@gmx.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 17:22:12 +0100 (MET) From: Axel Gruber To: Hakenes Rolf Cc: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: AW: no irdeto I have nearly the same Problem (3 DVB Card´s in the System) - But i only have it often if i connect the CAM to the CARD with the Lowest ID - if i connect it to the CARD with the highest ID - there is no Problem. I think there is a BUG in the Driver - also if i use 2 CAM´s connected each to one of the DVB-S Card´s - only on CARD can Decrypt - the other one doesn´t use the CAM... My idea was to connect the IRDETO CAM to CARD1 and the SECA CAM to card2 - but this don´t work - if i connect both cam´s to on CARD (with the highest ID) - it works fine.. -- Sent through GMX FreeMail - http://www.gmx.net --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From Stefan.Hagendorn@lindy.cc Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 19:46:55 +0100 From: Stefan.Hagendorn@lindy.cc To: linux-dvb Subject: [linux-dvb] SPDIF Soundcard for use with DVB/VDR/DVD - and other questions Hi all, I ordered a LEADTEK Winfast 4xSound Card. This card is really cheap (79,- DM) and features 48KHz Sampling 4 Speaker Mode and digital optical and chinch input and ouput. The Card (chip C-Media 8738) is supportet by the ALSA Drivers. I want to connect the Digital Output of the DVB Card to the SPDIF in of the Soundcard. The reason for that ist, in normal mode (no AC3 from DVD or in future from VDR) the sound signal is looped through the soundcard. In AC3 Mode I mute the SPDIF in and pipe the Audio Data direct to the Soundcard ... this is now possible with the DVD-Player afaik. Maybe in future we will be able to record a stream with 2 different audio tracks (stereo and ac3) and replay them either with the dvb-card alone, or with the combination of dvb-card for picture and a digital capable soundcard for sound. Klaus - will this be possible in future ??? I will post a Report on the Soundcard if I get it and it works. Anyway are there any experiences with this configuration or even with this card ??? Is it (theoreticaly) possible to tune (without vdr) to the right channel with the AC3 stream as APID. Then do something like 'cat /dev/video > demux_audio > AC3dec > /dev/audio' Just to understand .... Another thing I like to know is the possibility of a linux update ... I'm still a "wet behind the ears" Linux rookie - but I plan to get SuSe 7.1 with kernel 2.4. Are there any advantages in Kernel 2.4. over 2.2.16 and what is this devsFS all about ?? and does kernel 2.4 work with dvb and VDR ??? ATM I run SuSe 7.0 with the original Kernel 2.2.16 - DVB 0.81 and VDR 0.71 without big problems (see section 'other open Questions' for details of the small problems I have. And still other open Questions: An issue which happends since >= dvb.060. or dvb.070 not sure ... Since this release I don't see any CAM Messages in the LOG ... I remember that before this Version I saw messages like "Insert Card" or "IRDETO4.7" .. And since this Release I got the problem with replaying a Stream and watching encrypted Channels after it. If I start the replay from an encrypted Channel the Channel is still decrypted after the replay .. but when I switch to another encrypted Channel nothing happends .. I just saw the EPG Information but no Picture. FTA Channels works fine ... and Pulling out the CAM and reinsert the CAM works too ... The last thing is a feature Request for VDR .... I'd like to have a CAM Menue integrated in VDR and I know it is possible .. there are just some Informations needed to integrate this ... I allready tried to get the Informations but failed ... maybe another one could help. Thanks in advance Stefan --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From gfiala@s.netic.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 18:04:35 +0100 From: Guido Fiala To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: Minimum system >> im trying to setup SuSE linux for VDR. >> What is the minimum system that is required to run? > >I had vdr sort-of running on a PentiumPro 150 MHz >with 64MB of RAM. With a SCSI disk this worked OK, >with a UDMA controller and an IDE disk it was almost >OK. That's about a year ago, though, so your mileage >may vary with today's versions. > >I had recently used vdr on a Pentium III 450 MHz >and IDE disks without UDMA, which caused vdr to >become so busy during fast-forward that it would >no longer respond to any remote control commands. >So a relatively high band width to your disks is >a requirement. No, vdr will always use up full disk bandwidth (unless <25 I-frames/sec) on fast forward/rewind - maybe we should have a programmable frame-rate-limit in setup.conf? --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From gfiala@s.netic.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 18:29:07 +0100 From: Guido Fiala To: Linux-DVB Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: vdr and linux 2.4.1 Clemens Kirchgatterer wrote: >Tobias Hauth wrote: >> hi >> >> is there anybody with an working vdr with kernel 2.4.1. >> i tried to compile vdr (0.71pre9 0.71pre7 0.70) with dvb version 0.81 and >> several cvs-versions. but compiling doesnt work (many errormessages). >> with kernel 2.4.0 i have no problems (and my 2.4.1 kernel has nearly the >> same config (and i tried some other configs). > >i compiled dvb 0.81 against kernel 2.4.1 and got no errors at all. the >drivers also work without problems ... >strange! Maybe the kernel was'nt configured (just untar'ed) at all in the first case? I had no problems compiling under 2.4.0, but the ide-dma subsystem gives me trouble - my Maxtor just has 15MB/sec against the 20 i had with 2.2.xx (at PIIX4, tryed anything with hdparm) - is it better with 2.4.1 ? --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From J.Riechardt@gmx.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 21:11:51 +0100 From: Joerg Riechardt To: Clemens Kirchgatterer Cc: "linux-dvb@linuxtv.org" Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: Minimum system Clemens Kirchgatterer wrote: > i had it running on a linux box that had: kernel, lilo, bash, vi, vdr, lirc, dvb, insmod, ld and an init-script. of course the programms need ... I'm very interested in that. How to set up such a linux box? How does the init-script looks like? Jörg --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From Klaus.Schmidinger@cadsoft.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 21:08:59 +0100 From: Klaus Schmidinger To: linux-dvb Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: SPDIF Soundcard for use with DVB/VDR/DVD - and other questions Stefan.Hagendorn@lindy.cc wrote: > > ... > Maybe in future we will be able to record a stream with 2 different audio > tracks (stereo and ac3) and replay them either with the dvb-card alone, or > with the combination of dvb-card for picture and a digital capable > soundcard for sound. Klaus - will this be possible in future ??? Well, I hope so ;-) Haven't made any experiments in that direction yet, though. I'm not sure yet how to store the data (one file or two separate files) and how to synchronize picture and sound. If anybody has some ideas in that area, I'd like to hear them. > An issue which happends since >= dvb.060. or dvb.070 not sure ... > > Since this release I don't see any CAM Messages in the LOG ... I remember > that before this Version I saw messages like "Insert Card" or "IRDETO4.7" Those message must have been issued by the driver. VDR never did anything like that. > The last thing is a feature Request for VDR .... I'd like to have a CAM > Menue integrated in VDR and I know it is possible .. there are just some > Informations needed to integrate this ... I allready tried to get the > Informations but failed ... maybe another one could help. AFAIK the driver doesn't provide the necessary information yet. Once it does that, a VDR CAM menu should be easy to implement. Klaus -- _______________________________________________________________ Klaus Schmidinger Phone: +49-8635-6989-10 CadSoft Computer GmbH Fax: +49-8635-6989-40 Hofmark 2 Email: kls@cadsoft.de D-84568 Pleiskirchen, Germany URL: www.cadsoft.de _______________________________________________________________ --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From Stefan.Hagendorn@lindy.cc Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 21:26:39 +0100 From: Stefan.Hagendorn@lindy.cc To: Klaus Schmidinger Cc: linux-dvb Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: SPDIF Soundcard for use with DVB/VDR/DVD - and other questions >> >> ... >> Maybe in future we will be able to record a stream with 2 different audio >> tracks (stereo and ac3) and replay them either with the dvb-card alone, or >> with the combination of dvb-card for picture and a digital capable >> soundcard for sound. Klaus - will this be possible in future ??? > >Well, I hope so ;-) >Haven't made any experiments in that direction yet, though. >I'm not sure yet how to store the data (one file or two separate files) >and how to synchronize picture and sound. > >If anybody has some ideas in that area, I'd like to hear them. Klaus, how about an option to save the ac3 stream in a second file ... just to be able to experiment with it a little bit. In my opinnion the sync will be the biggest problem .. maybe it's easier to sync the audio when it is in another file ?? Is it right that the AC3 stream is "just" another APID ?? .. Greetings Stefan --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From axelgruber2@gmx.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 21:55:23 +0100 From: Axel Gruber To: Klaus.Schmidinger@cadsoft.de Cc: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: SPDIF Soundcard for use with DVB/VDR/DVD - and other questio >> An issue which happends since >= dvb.060. or dvb.070 not sure ... >> >> Since this release I don't see any CAM Messages in the LOG ... I remember >> that before this Version I saw messages like "Insert Card" or "IRDETO4.7" Yes - this Status-Messages was from Driver - but since 0.7.x these Messages are not longer existent. >> The last thing is a feature Request for VDR .... I'd like to have a CAM >> Menue integrated in VDR and I know it is possible .. there are just some >> Informations needed to integrate this ... I allready tried to get the >> Informations but failed ... maybe another one could help. Hmm - what do you want to do with it ? - i have the CAM-Menue here in my WINDOWS-SYSTEM - bit you only can set the ECM mode and you can reset the CAM... - nothing important. --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From axelgruber2@gmx.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 22:29:53 +0100 From: Axel Gruber To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] MPLEX works now with DVB-S FILES Hello to everybody... The new MPLEX works now with the Audio/Video Files splitted by the ES_DEMUX utility of the DVB DRIVER ! WOW - That´s a great thing :-) The second good thing is: The Output Stream can be read by "FLASK-MPEG-ENCODER" (WINDOWS) - this is a TRANSCODER - I have tryed to convert several Recordings (60Min - 140MIN) to VCD (MPEG1 - 44,1khz - 115000Bitrate - lower Resolution). The result is realy great: Audio and VIDEO is SYNC !!! - From the Beginning of the file to the end ! I have burned 3 Movie´s to VCD and playback it in my DVD-Player - works very well... The next step is a LINUX-BASED TRANSCODER - does anyone know such a Solution ? I have tryed a Encoder (found in the I-NET) - but with it i can´t convert to lower resolution (needed for VCD) and the SYNC between AUDIO/VIDEO goes away to the end of the file.... Axel Gruber --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From wk@u2me.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 23:44:31 +0100 From: Walter Krohe To: Clemens Kirchgatterer Cc: JGroth@gmx.de, linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: Minimum system > i had it running on a linux box that had: kernel, lilo, bash, vi, vdr, > lirc, dvb, insmod, ld and an init-script. of course the programms need > some libs that were also installed (simply copyed from the mashine i > compiled dvb & vdr on). no runnlevels, no users no login. that thing > booted really fast!!! ;-) Nice idea to have an VDR-Mini-Linux Distribution on a Floppy. Only the DVB datas going to the hard disk. Maybe also the way to get an DVB-VDR thats harddisk shutup when no VDR action is going on ("flatroom mode" ;-) ) Just an tought ... Walter Krohe --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From martin@hammerschmid.com Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 23:54:02 +0100 From: Martin Hammerschmid To: linux-dvb Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: SPDIF Soundcard for use with DVB/VDR/DVD - and other questions Klaus Schmidinger wrote: > > Stefan.Hagendorn@lindy.cc wrote: > > > > ... > > Maybe in future we will be able to record a stream with 2 different audio > > tracks (stereo and ac3) and replay them either with the dvb-card alone, or > > with the combination of dvb-card for picture and a digital capable > > soundcard for sound. Klaus - will this be possible in future ??? > > Well, I hope so ;-) > Haven't made any experiments in that direction yet, though. > I'm not sure yet how to store the data (one file or two separate files) > and how to synchronize picture and sound. > using a sound card for replaying might be a general solution. seems like a way to improve replay quality of some badly muxed streams too. when the dvb card only does the video stuff it should dramatically decrease buffer underuns in the card, am I right ? Martin ========== mailto:martin@hammerschmid.com ========== =RSA-PGP-Key ID:0x81783FE7 DH-PGP-Key ID:0x6B66589A= ==================================================== If brains were dynamite you couldn't blow your nose! --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From Klaus.Schmidinger@cadsoft.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 08:39:47 +0100 From: Klaus Schmidinger To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] VDR: found cause of EIT crash Can anybody using VDR and having the EIT scanner active confirm that last night the thing crashed? If so, I guess I found what causes these occasional crashes in the EIT scanner. For an immediate fix please insert the two lines if (max < 0) return 0; to cEIT::strdvbcpy() in VDR/eit.c, immediatedly after the opening '{'. Klaus -- _______________________________________________________________ Klaus Schmidinger Phone: +49-8635-6989-10 CadSoft Computer GmbH Fax: +49-8635-6989-40 Hofmark 2 Email: kls@cadsoft.de D-84568 Pleiskirchen, Germany URL: www.cadsoft.de _______________________________________________________________ --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From joerg_schoeppe@mentorg.com Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 09:49:44 +0100 From: Joerg Schoeppe To: Clemens Kirchgatterer , "linux-dvb@linuxtv.org" Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: Minimum system > > i had it running on a linux box that had: kernel, lilo, bash, vi, vdr, > > lirc, dvb, insmod, ld and an init-script. of course the programms need > I'm very interested in that. > How to set up such a linux box? I double that. Please share your setup with us! Thanks in Advance, Joerg --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From clemens@root.at Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2000 06:49:49 +0200 From: Clemens Kirchgatterer To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: Minimum system Joerg Schoeppe wrote: > > > > i had it running on a linux box that had: kernel, lilo, bash, vi, vdr, > > > lirc, dvb, insmod, ld and an init-script. of course the programms need > > I'm very interested in that. > > How to set up such a linux box? > > I double that. Please share your setup with us! ok, ok! i will try to build such a mini disti, just be a little pacient! btw.: one day, a few weeks ago, i asked if somebody is intrested in such a distri ... nobody wanted it! ;-) regards ... clemens --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From matthias@pentax.boerde.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 10:20:24 +0100 (MET) From: Matthias Weingart To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: Minimum system On Wed, 21 Feb 2001, Walter Krohe wrote: > > i had it running on a linux box that had: kernel, lilo, bash, vi, vdr, > > lirc, dvb, insmod, ld and an init-script. of course the programms need > > some libs that were also installed (simply copyed from the mashine i > > compiled dvb & vdr on). no runnlevels, no users no login. that thing > > booted really fast!!! ;-) > > Nice idea to have an VDR-Mini-Linux Distribution on a Floppy. Only the DVB datas going to the > hard disk. Maybe also the way to get an DVB-VDR thats harddisk shutup when no VDR action is > going on ("flatroom mode" ;-) ) This is possible, I created such one (not for VDR - for a router) -> kernel and filesystem are packed on a disk - on booting the filesystem is unpacked to a RAM-Disk (3MB). FD-filesystem is MINIX. If you want do change some files in the (packed) RAM-disk you put the new files on the disk and copy it to the RAM disk (after unpacking). (a shell script on the floppy is called after unpacking). So you do not always have to create the RAM-Disk image. The whole thing is running with at least 8MB RAM. But I think it is hard to get all necessary programs to the floppy. But why a floppy - you can put all the stuff (kernel and compressed RAM-disk-image) onto the hardisk. You boot from disk (well yes with some noise :-) but afterwards it is silent - completely running in RAM. Then you can activate the HD standby it it is more silent. Matthias (My disk is based on kernel 2.0 and a old linux distribution, and have some settings in the RAMDISk that are only useful for us, but if you are interested you can get it here: http://www.boerde.de/~matthias/airnet/zcom/ -bootdisksrc.tgz is the complete project (all files that are needed to create the disk) -bootdiskimg.zip is a simple disk image btw. there are some other floppy-based linux distributions outside..) I think it can help you to show how to do it. --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From Robert.Schneider@lotus.com Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 10:59:54 +0100 From: Robert.Schneider@lotus.com To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: vdr and linux 2.4.1 did that this week, I had no problems at all. hi is there anybody with an working vdr with kernel 2.4.1. i tried to compile vdr (0.71pre9 0.71pre7 0.70) with dvb version 0.81 and several cvs-versions. but compiling doesnt work (many errormessages). with kernel 2.4.0 i have no problems (and my 2.4.1 kernel has nearly the same config (and i tried some other configs). thx for help tobias p.s.: sorry for my bad english ,-) --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From jrepetto@francenet.fr Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 11:09:37 +0100 From: Jean-Claude REPETTO To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: DVB over Ethernet ? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christoph Ackermann" To: Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 11:57 AM Subject: [linux-dvb] DVB over Ethernet ? > Hi ! > > Does anybody have expierience with Linux VDR and recording/streaming > video over 100Mb Ethernet to a dedicated filserver? This would be nice > for a convenient noiselevel in your livingroom. > > Regards, > > Christoph I am also thinking about such a solution : minimal hardware in the living-room (for example a diskless PC with MPEG2 hardware like a DXR3) , and a fileserver with one or more DVB cards, DVD, and a large hard disk. When fast wireless network will be available, you even won't need cables ! Look at the VideoLAN project : http://www.videolan.org/ Jean-Claude --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From jrepetto@francenet.fr Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 11:07:58 +0100 From: Jean-Claude REPETTO To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: Minimum system ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joerg Schoeppe" To: "Clemens Kirchgatterer" ; Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2001 9:49 AM Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: Minimum system > > > i had it running on a linux box that had: kernel, lilo, bash, vi, vdr, > > > lirc, dvb, insmod, ld and an init-script. of course the programms need > > I'm very interested in that. > > How to set up such a linux box? I think a good document to start with is "Linux From Scratch" . Have a look at www.linuxfromscratch.org --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From dave@dchapman.com Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 11:15:27 +0100 From: Dave Chapman To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Minor update to dvbaudio I've made a very minor (but useful) update to my dvbaudio program - when using it in http streaming mode, you can now specify the PID as a CGI parameter, e.g. http://yourhost/cgi-bin/dvbaudio?pid=643 It is available from: http://www.linuxstb.org/dvbaudio/ Quite a few people downloaded the previous version, but no-one has commented on it - does it work? Is it worth developing further? Regards, Dave. --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From Emil.Naepflein@philosys.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 12:14:05 +0100 From: Emil Naepflein To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: Minimum system On Sun, 16 Apr 2000 06:49:49 +0200, Clemens Kirchgatterer wrote: > btw.: one day, a few weeks ago, i asked if somebody is intrested in such > a distri ... nobody wanted it! ;-) But now, everybody has read the article in CT 4/2001 and wants such a system. :) What I would need is the vdr functionality independently for 3 TVs. This would replace/extent the multiple digital SAT Receivers I use now. I think we need something very small and quiet in the living room. I am also thinking about splitting the functionality. A small diskless box with one SAT card in the living room and other places and a server with multiple cards and enough diskspace somewhere else everything connected by a switched 100 MBit network. On each box there should be vdr running with the same functionality. For this some communication has to be established between the vdrs to coordinate the use of all sat cards either for viewing or background recording. kvdr has also to be integrated into this. For the small box I have already thought about the use of CompactPCI components. Just a CPU board, a CompactPCI/PCI adapter and a DVB Card. The CPU board contains everything which is on a normal CPU board including 100BaseT and graphic. Combine this with a LCD-Display and a IR control and a proper housing and this would make a very compact system. The Linux system could be loaded into flash if necessary. I don't know the prices of the components yet. An alternative would be to use only a central server somewhere and connecting the composite outputs to all the TVs and pipe the IR signals back. I do this already with centrally placed components with my in-house TV network. An extension of vdr for multiple concurrent/independend users is also necessary. BTW, is it possible with vdr and the DVB card to do time-shifting only with one card? I have read the API but it is not clear to me whether one program can read from the DEMUX and another one can write into the decoder concurrently, both set to MEMORY of course. I know, I am dreaming currently, :) but as experienced developer of system software it seems to be a achievable task for me. If I can find some time in the next few months I will try to contribute something. But my next step will be to build one experimental server with at least two SAT cards. Emil --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From bsch@dit-gmbh.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 12:44:25 +0100 (CET) From: bsch@dit-gmbh.de To: Christoph Ackermann Cc: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: DVB over Ethernet ? On Wed, 21 Feb 2001, Christoph Ackermann wrote: > Hi ! > > Does anybody have expierience with Linux VDR and recording/streaming > video over 100Mb Ethernet to a dedicated filserver? This would be nice > for a convenient noiselevel in your livingroom. > > Regards, > > Christoph > > -- > > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Christoph Ackermann ] t e c m a t h [ > System Integration Engineer Content Management Systems Division > phone +49 6301 606-200 Sauerwiesen 2, 67661 Kaiserslautern, Germany > fax +49 6301 606-209 http://www.tecmath.com > ________________________________________________________________________ > > > --- > Info: > To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. > --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From martin@hammerschmid.com Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 14:12:52 +0100 From: Martin Hammerschmid To: linux-dvb Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: Minimum system Emil Naepflein wrote: >The Linux system could be loaded into flash if > necessary. I don't know the prices of the components yet. A few months ago I fiddled with diskless booting which seems to work pretty fine with newer NICs that come with a PXE boot prom (intel, 3com cards for example). all you need is pxelinux (part of syslinux ftp://ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/utils/boot/syslinux/ ) tftpd from ftp://www.kernel.org/pub/software/network/tftp/ a dhcp server and nfs (depending on the configuration) I tried 2 methods: 1) nfs root just copied some important directories from an existing installation somewhere else where the client could mount it rw as / 2) initrd copied some things together for a minimal system and made a ram disk image. then the client works completely from a ram disk which is obtained form the server on boottime. this way it should be possible to have some diskless clients who share a common video directory on a server which holds all information ... well, since I don't have a server I stopped fiddling with it, at least for now ... Martin ========== mailto:martin@hammerschmid.com ========== =RSA-PGP-Key ID:0x81783FE7 DH-PGP-Key ID:0x6B66589A= ==================================================== She had more Chins than the Chinese phonebook! --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From software@pxh.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 00:15:34 +0000 From: Peter Hofmann To: Klaus Schmidinger Cc: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: VDR and DVB-C Hi, I am using VDR with a DVB-C card (without CAM) for some time. All tests were done with VDR-0.71pre9 and the latest CVS version with tag DVB-0-8. On Feb 16, 17:54, Klaus Schmidinger wrote: > Subject: [linux-dvb] VDR and DVB-C > - load the driver and check whether you get a picture and sound > (if not, the channel settings in your cable are different from > what the driver sets as default, so you'll have to find out > the frequency, symbol rate, VPID and APID settings yourself). Playback, recording and EPG work fine for me. There are audio glitches mainly with ARD and ZDF and sometimes other channels. I haven't tried remuxing yet. > - create a 'channels.conf' with the following content: > > Test1:394:h:0:6900:610:620:0:0 > Test2:394:h:0:6900:610:620:0:0 > > - start VDR > - in VDR's Setup menu change both LNB frequencies to 0 > - switch between the two channels (they both have the same settings, > this is just to make VDR actually call the SetChannel function). OK, works. It's ZDF.info (which I get with my regular setup anyway). > - if you get a picture and sound, try recording and playback OK, also works. >-- End of excerpt from Klaus Schmidinger One curious thing: After I get back to my regular channels.conf I have to set back the LNB frequencies to LnbFrequLo = 9750 LnbFrequHi = 10600 Otherwise I get the error ERROR: channel 1 not sync'ed (front.sync=0)! in the syslog. For those DVB-C users that are interested, here is my regular channels.conf: Das Erste:10160:h:1:6900:101:102:0:28106 hessen:10160:h:1:6900:301:302:0:28108 BR-alpha:10160:h:1:6900:701:702:0:28112 SWR:10160:h:1:6900:801:802:0:28113 EinsExtra:10176:h:1:6900:101:102:0:28201 EinsFestival:10176:h:1:6900:201:202:0:28202 EinsMuXx:10176:h:1:6900:301:302:0:28203 MDR:10176:h:1:6900:401:402:0:28204 ORB:10176:h:1:6900:501:502:0:28205 B1:10176:h:1:6900:601:602:0:28206 ZDF:10144:h:1:6900:110:120:0:28006 3sat:10144:h:1:6900:210:220:0:28007 KiKa:10144:h:1:6900:310:320:0:28008 Eurosport:10144:h:1:6900:410:420:0:28009 ORF:10144:h:1:6900:506:507:0:28010 ZDF.info:10144:h:1:6900:610:620:0:28011 EuroNews:10144:h:1:6900:2233:2221:0:28015 ZDF.doku:10144:h:1:6900:660:670:0:28014 BR:10160:h:1:6900:201:202:0:28107 WDR:10160:h:1:6900:601:602:0:28111 arte:10160:h:1:6900:401:402:0:28109 SR:10160:h:1:6900:501:502:0:28110 Via:10096:h:1:6900:611:612:0:50705 Leitseite:10096:h:1:6900:2254:0:0:5004 PremiereWorld:10120:h:1:6900:255:256:0:10 Best wishes Peter -- Peter Hofmann e-mail: software@pxh.de --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From massimiliano.perantoni@bigfoot.com Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 08:13:38 +0100 From: Massimiliano Perantoni To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] DVB card EON Hi! I have been wandering through docs, but couldn't find anything really exaustive about configuring a Proxy to let it talk to EON, or better I found something, but it doesn't seem to work... My actual state is that the kernel loads ALL modules and from dmesg it understands that I'm correctly Working. The matter is that the eon proxies seem deaf to me (neither telnet in port 8080 nor ping): what should I setup to let all the stuff go? I must say 3 things: 1 The card works great, it shows images from astra in a perfect way, so it should be configured correctly, isn't it? 2 The device dvb0 is up and running 3 My network setup is the following: The DVB is connected to my PC that has squid installed, it's behind a firewall router that let's me out of the net masquerading me through an ISDN line, but the firewall is not important as all the doors are open. I guess that the real problem isn't where the proxy resides, as if it was ALL working guess I should see some packets on the dvb0, while tcpdump is dumb... HELP ME! Ciao Massimiliano --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From jrepetto@mxmlab.com Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 18:17:05 +0100 From: Jean-Claude REPETTO To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: DVB over Ethernet ? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christoph Ackermann" To: Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 11:57 AM Subject: [linux-dvb] DVB over Ethernet ? > Hi ! > > Does anybody have expierience with Linux VDR and recording/streaming > video over 100Mb Ethernet to a dedicated filserver? This would be nice > for a convenient noiselevel in your livingroom. > > Regards, > > Christoph Look at the VideoLAN project : http://www.videolan.org/ I am also thinking about such a solution : minimal hardware in the living-room (for example a diskless PC with MPEG2 hardware like a DXR3) , and a fileserver with one or more DVB cards, DVD, and a large hard disk. When fast wireless network will be available, you even won't need cables ! Jean-Claude --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From RBauer@quark.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 15:32:32 +0100 From: Ralf Bauer To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: Minimum system Well, what you described is definitely a very nice system that everybody would like to have, but there are also other aspects we should think about. My VDR-PC consumes about 80W of electrical energy which sums up to 700 kWh/a or about DM 250,- a year and 413 kg CO2. An additional PC would even double those numbers. We should also have a look at saving energy and reducing the annual cost of such a system (you already guessed it, I'm Swabian). If you don't use your VDR-PC also as FAX server, answering machine or router, your machine will probably do nothing 90% of the time. It should be pretty easy to automatically shutdown the system if it is not used to view or record something. This would lower the standby power consumption to about 1-5 W which is about DM 15,- a year. It is a little bit more difficult to switch on the system for a timer recording. PC98 compliant mainboards (I am not sure about earlier models) support a wakeup on RTC, which means we could program the wakeup time of the next timer event into the RTC and wakeup the VDR-PC just a minute before the recording starts. I have not seen this support in Linux yet, but this should be easily integrated in the "hwclock" command. Shutting down the system also reduces the noise to the time when the VDR is used. Ralf. -----Original Message----- From: Emil Naepflein [mailto:Emil.Naepflein@philosys.de] Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2001 12:14 To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: Minimum system On Sun, 16 Apr 2000 06:49:49 +0200, Clemens Kirchgatterer wrote: > btw.: one day, a few weeks ago, i asked if somebody is intrested in such > a distri ... nobody wanted it! ;-) --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From Webmaster@internettest.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 17:30:59 +0100 From: Matthias Queisler To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Jump What about a jump function for recorded movies. Press "Yellow" then type the time you want to jump to and there you are. I got this idea while I was editing The Simpsons and had to wait until I reached the commercials. I am going to try this or is here anybody that had done that? cu --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From schoeller@gmx.at Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 17:37:19 +0100 From: Johannes Schoeller To: Ralf Bauer , linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] VDR machine in standbymode (was: Minimum system) nice thought! i.m also very interested in saving energy. it would be a nice idea to put the pc in standby mode in times of inactivity. and just wake it up just before the beginning of a new recording, or in case a key of the remote control is pressed. problem(s): .) automatic scanning of epg data after X hours. how long does it take? would it be enough to start it maybe 3 times a day? and then send the pc back to sleep?` .) concerning the stability of the DVB driver: how stable is apm/pc98 working under linux. i use "suspend to RAM" on a win2k machine and i.m very impressed. it works great, and uses just about 3watts. .) alternate starting and shutting down the harddisk is another problem. harddisk don.t love to be started and stopped too often. i even hate putting them in standby mode. but it saves another 5-10Watts. .) i use the VDR machine as a firewall. so i would need the ability to wake the maching up on modem/isdn/adsl activity. what so you think? is this manageable under linux? i would appreciate it very much. Johannes Schoeller ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ralf Bauer" To: Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2001 3:32 PM Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: Minimum system > Well, what you described is definitely a very nice system that everybody > would like to have, but there are also other aspects we should think about. > > My VDR-PC consumes about 80W of electrical energy which sums up to 700 kWh/a > or about DM 250,- a year and 413 kg CO2. An additional PC would even double > those numbers. > > We should also have a look at saving energy and reducing the annual cost of > such a system (you already guessed it, I'm Swabian). > > If you don't use your VDR-PC also as FAX server, answering machine or > router, your machine will probably do nothing 90% of the time. It should be > pretty easy to automatically shutdown the system if it is not used to view > or record something. This would lower the standby power consumption to about > 1-5 W which is about DM 15,- a year. > > It is a little bit more difficult to switch on the system for a timer > recording. PC98 compliant mainboards (I am not sure about earlier models) > support a wakeup on RTC, which means we could program the wakeup time of the > next timer event into the RTC and wakeup the VDR-PC just a minute before the > recording starts. I have not seen this support in Linux yet, but this should > be easily integrated in the "hwclock" command. > > Shutting down the system also reduces the noise to the time when the VDR is > used. > > Ralf. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Emil Naepflein [mailto:Emil.Naepflein@philosys.de] > Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2001 12:14 > To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org > Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: Minimum system > > > On Sun, 16 Apr 2000 06:49:49 +0200, Clemens Kirchgatterer > wrote: > > > btw.: one day, a few weeks ago, i asked if somebody is intrested in such > > a distri ... nobody wanted it! ;-) > > > --- > Info: > To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. > > --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From Ratschkowski@euras.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 18:06:43 +0100 From: Ratschkowski Tobias To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] StandBy Mode after record ? Hi there ! iam asking me how you all handling this ? I am currently building my linux-vdr and i am thinking how i handle records of a movie late night. for example, i want to record a movie at 02:00am to 03:00am. it would be nice, if the vdr goes after the record in standby-mode or switching itself off. is there a chance to do this ? Or is the vdr running all the time ? Cheers! tobias --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From schoeller@gmx.at Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 17:52:50 +0100 From: Johannes Schoeller To: Matthias Queisler , linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: Jump ?? why not just use the GREEN button? press it 10 times an you are 10min "in the future" ;) that.s imho much faster then pressing about five different buttons, especially when you are in a dark room and want to use the remote with "closed eyes". regards Johannes Schoeller ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matthias Queisler" To: Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2001 5:30 PM Subject: [linux-dvb] Jump > What about a jump function for recorded movies. Press "Yellow" then type the > time you want to jump to and there you are. > I got this idea while I was editing The Simpsons and had to wait until I > reached the commercials. > > I am going to try this or is here anybody that had done that? > > cu > > > > --- > Info: > To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. > > --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From Klaus.Schmidinger@cadsoft.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 18:51:16 +0100 From: Klaus Schmidinger To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: Jump Johannes Schoeller wrote: > > ?? why not just use the GREEN button? press it 10 times > an you are 10min "in the future" ;) that.s imho much > faster then pressing about five different buttons, > especially when you are in a dark room and want to > use the remote with "closed eyes". Actually the YELLOW button skips 60s into the future (unless you have modified the default setup). Klaus -- _______________________________________________________________ Klaus Schmidinger Phone: +49-8635-6989-10 CadSoft Computer GmbH Fax: +49-8635-6989-40 Hofmark 2 Email: kls@cadsoft.de D-84568 Pleiskirchen, Germany URL: www.cadsoft.de _______________________________________________________________ --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From RBauer@quark.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 18:44:26 +0100 From: Ralf Bauer To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: VDR machine in standbymode (was: Minimum system) to 1) We could start the EPG scanning immediately after a timer event is finished and shutdown after all channels are scanned. This would allow you to add "dummy" timer event which do no recording but just an EPG scan whenever you think it is appropriate, for example 30 minutes before you come home from work. to 2) I didn't want to do a suspend to RAM, I want to do a real power-off. to 3) Compared to the price for the electricity it would pay off to buy a new HD every now and then ;-) to 4) Wake-up on serial activity is already build in the BIOS and is no problem. Ralf. -----Original Message----- From: Johannes Schoeller [mailto:schoeller@gmx.at] Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2001 17:37 To: Ralf Bauer; linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] VDR machine in standbymode (was: Minimum system) nice thought! i.m also very interested in saving energy. it would be a nice idea to put the pc in standby mode in times of inactivity. and just wake it up just before the beginning of a new recording, or in case a key of the remote control is pressed. problem(s): .) automatic scanning of epg data after X hours. how long does it take? would it be enough to start it maybe 3 times a day? and then send the pc back to sleep?` .) concerning the stability of the DVB driver: how stable is apm/pc98 working under linux. i use "suspend to RAM" on a win2k machine and i.m very impressed. it works great, and uses just about 3watts. .) alternate starting and shutting down the harddisk is another problem. harddisk don.t love to be started and stopped too often. i even hate putting them in standby mode. but it saves another 5-10Watts. .) i use the VDR machine as a firewall. so i would need the ability to wake the maching up on modem/isdn/adsl activity. what so you think? is this manageable under linux? i would appreciate it very much. Johannes Schoeller ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ralf Bauer" To: Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2001 3:32 PM Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: Minimum system > Well, what you described is definitely a very nice system that everybody > would like to have, but there are also other aspects we should think about. > > My VDR-PC consumes about 80W of electrical energy which sums up to 700 kWh/a > or about DM 250,- a year and 413 kg CO2. An additional PC would even double > those numbers. > > We should also have a look at saving energy and reducing the annual cost of > such a system (you already guessed it, I'm Swabian). > > If you don't use your VDR-PC also as FAX server, answering machine or > router, your machine will probably do nothing 90% of the time. It should be > pretty easy to automatically shutdown the system if it is not used to view > or record something. This would lower the standby power consumption to about > 1-5 W which is about DM 15,- a year. > > It is a little bit more difficult to switch on the system for a timer > recording. PC98 compliant mainboards (I am not sure about earlier models) > support a wakeup on RTC, which means we could program the wakeup time of the > next timer event into the RTC and wakeup the VDR-PC just a minute before the > recording starts. I have not seen this support in Linux yet, but this should > be easily integrated in the "hwclock" command. > > Shutting down the system also reduces the noise to the time when the VDR is > used. > > Ralf. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Emil Naepflein [mailto:Emil.Naepflein@philosys.de] > Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2001 12:14 > To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org > Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: Minimum system > > > On Sun, 16 Apr 2000 06:49:49 +0200, Clemens Kirchgatterer > wrote: > > > btw.: one day, a few weeks ago, i asked if somebody is intrested in such > > a distri ... nobody wanted it! ;-) > > > --- > Info: > To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. > > --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From matthias@pentax.boerde.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 18:54:10 +0100 (MET) From: Matthias Weingart To: Ralf Bauer Cc: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] reduced power consumption, was Re: Re: Minimum system On Thu, 22 Feb 2001, Ralf Bauer wrote: > router, your machine will probably do nothing 90% of the time. It should be > pretty easy to automatically shutdown the system if it is not used to view > or record something. This would lower the standby power consumption to about > 1-5 W which is about DM 15,- a year. Are you sure? My ATX computer still consumes 15W in the off state. (Well I should by a better supply :-/, but I use a master switch). A power supply with no load have a very poor power efficiency. And I think the modern ATX computers and "power saving" monitors need much more power overall than the good old AT-boards with a true power switch. If your reduce the clock of power intensive parts (CPU, Chipset, graphics) and use low power components you can reduce the overall power needs to 20-30 Watts or less (I will try it). (A notebook with active display and active harddisk is running 2 hours from 10,8V, 4,5Ah batteries -> 24W!) - dont overclock your CPU -> "underclock" it, you can reduce the cpu voltages too (does a 800MHz cpu running at 400MHz?) - use 66MHz system clock instead of 133MHz - don't use super power high speed 3D graphics cards (or dont use a graphics card at all, I think linux can run without graphic, as far as your bios can it) - use 10MBit instead of 100MBit network cards (my 100MBit hub consumes 10 Watts!) - use all currently supported power saving modes (hard disc standby) - use hard disc only for playing/recording (and booting) -> whole root-filesystem in RAM and shut HD down the rest of the day Well some points are against performance, but you have a system that is running around the clock and have no problms with wake up, ACPI and so on, and your system can do other things too. Matthias --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From rjkm@convergence.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 18:18:19 +0100 (CET) From: Ralph Metzler To: Ralf Bauer Cc: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: Minimum system Ralf Bauer writes: > Well, what you described is definitely a very nice system that everybody > would like to have, but there are also other aspects we should think about. > > My VDR-PC consumes about 80W of electrical energy which sums up to 700 kWh/a > or about DM 250,- a year and 413 kg CO2. An additional PC would even double > those numbers. > > We should also have a look at saving energy and reducing the annual cost of > such a system (you already guessed it, I'm Swabian). > > If you don't use your VDR-PC also as FAX server, answering machine or > router, your machine will probably do nothing 90% of the time. It should be > pretty easy to automatically shutdown the system if it is not used to view > or record something. This would lower the standby power consumption to about > 1-5 W which is about DM 15,- a year. > > It is a little bit more difficult to switch on the system for a timer > recording. PC98 compliant mainboards (I am not sure about earlier models) > support a wakeup on RTC, which means we could program the wakeup time of the > next timer event into the RTC and wakeup the VDR-PC just a minute before the > recording starts. I have not seen this support in Linux yet, but this should > be easily integrated in the "hwclock" command. > > Shutting down the system also reduces the noise to the time when the VDR is > used. If you wait another 6 or 9 months I am sure that enough set-top-boxes will appear on the market which will have all this built-in and will consume less power. One project of ours which already was publically announced is the Galaxis set-top-box with AV72xx chipset. I think these kinds of boxes will offer all you want in a DVB receiver and also have enough power for other basic Linux applications. Ralph --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From marcus@kuba4u.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 19:55:31 GMT From: Marcus Kuba To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: Jump Am 22.02.01, schrieb "Johannes Schoeller" ... > ?? why not just use the GREEN button? press it 10 times > an you are 10min "in the future" ;) that.s imho much > faster then pressing about five different buttons, > especially when you are in a dark room and want to > use the remote with "closed eyes". This is OK when you just want to skip the commercials... but when it comes to "show XY that great scene close to the end of the 2-hour-movie" I think it's no fun to press 100 times. Even my old Grundig-VHS-VCR has such a jump-function and every DVD-Player (better: almost every player with direct-access-media) has it.. so I think a VDR should have it, too. Greetings, Marcus --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From ms@citd.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 21:18:53 +0100 (MET) From: Matthias Schniedermeyer To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] mpegtools & mplex2 #include The current CVS-Version of mpegtool doesn't compile Makefile:75: .depend: No such file or directory g++ -M ctools.c mainc.c ringbuffy.c cpptools.cc main.cc bits.cpp buffer.cpp domplex.cpp inits.cpp inptstrm.cpp interact.cpp mplex.cpp multplex.cpp systems.cpp timecode.cpp -I../../driver > .depend g++ -c -g -Wall -O2 -I../../driver cpptools.cc g++ -c -g -Wall -O2 -I../../driver main.cc main.cc: In function `int main(int, char **)': ctools.h:493: too few arguments to function `void ts_demux2(int, int, int, unsigned int, unsigned int)' main.cc:181: at this point in file ctools.h:493: too few arguments to function `void ts_demux2(int, int, int, unsigned int, unsigned int)' main.cc:300: at this point in file make: *** [main.o] Error 1 I tried mplex I tried a recording i did with driver 0.7 av_pes2pes > in mplex -t MPEG2 -o out in I tried the result with "the Hardware" and with xmovie. With both the audio stops about 14 seconds after the beginning. And the video hangs after 42 seconds (Video is only tested with xmovie) A "more current" PES recording with the CVS-driver which was current Feburary 03 show no problems at all. But i can't "really" compare that because i have only about 100MB big "native" PES-files wheras i have 2GIG av_pes files. (The test above was with a 1Gig file) Bis denn -- Real Programmers consider "what you see is what you get" to be just as bad a concept in Text Editors as it is in women. No, the Real Programmer wants a "you asked for it, you got it" text editor -- complicated, cryptic, powerful, unforgiving, dangerous. --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From Klaus.Schmidinger@cadsoft.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 21:31:13 +0100 From: Klaus Schmidinger Cc: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: Jump Marcus Kuba wrote: > > Am 22.02.01, schrieb "Johannes Schoeller" ... > > > ?? why not just use the GREEN button? press it 10 times > > an you are 10min "in the future" ;) that.s imho much > > faster then pressing about five different buttons, > > especially when you are in a dark room and want to > > use the remote with "closed eyes". > > This is OK when you just want to skip the commercials... but when it > comes to "show XY that great scene close to the end of the 2-hour-movie" > I think it's no fun to press 100 times. Even my old Grundig-VHS-VCR has > such a jump-function and every DVD-Player (better: almost every player > with direct-access-media) has it.. so I think a VDR should have it, too. I'll see what I can do to implement this function. In the meantime you could use VDR's editing markers to set a mark at the beginning of "that great scene" and then use the '7' and/or '9' keys to jump directly to that mark (there can be any number of marks, so you can mark as many scenes as you like). Klaus -- _______________________________________________________________ Klaus Schmidinger Phone: +49-8635-6989-10 CadSoft Computer GmbH Fax: +49-8635-6989-40 Hofmark 2 Email: kls@cadsoft.de D-84568 Pleiskirchen, Germany URL: www.cadsoft.de _______________________________________________________________ --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From Webmaster@internettest.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 22:38:56 +0100 From: Matthias Queisler To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] status bar I noticed, that when I am cutting a movie there is no status bar on the screen. I have to guess when it's ready. So, why no status bar. And why there is no volume control in the VDR ?? It's a little bit crappy that I always have to search for my TV RC to lower or raise the volume. And... > ?? why not just use the GREEN button? press it 10 times > an you are 10min "in the future" ;) that.s imho much > faster then pressing about five different buttons, > especially when you are in a dark room and want to > use the remote with "closed eyes". Thats what I mean. Thats always 10 mins but I want to jump directly to 54:21. That should be easy to make. Regards Matthias ICQ# 87237778 Mobile (+49) 0174 9609759 Email: Webmaster@internettest.de --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From e9425234@stud1.tuwien.ac.at Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 23:02:56 +0100 From: Peter Seyringer To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Idea to save power (and also your money) with VDR Hello! I have a idea to install a RTC that switch the ATX power supply on when VDR wants to record. Does someone interests at this project? Peter --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From mocm@convergence.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 23:39:26 +0100 (CET) From: Marcus O.C. Metzler To: Matthias Schniedermeyer Cc: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] mpegtools & mplex2 Matthias Schniedermeyer writes: > #include > > > > The current CVS-Version of mpegtool doesn't compile > > Makefile:75: .depend: No such file or directory > g++ -M ctools.c mainc.c ringbuffy.c cpptools.cc main.cc bits.cpp > buffer.cpp domplex.cpp inits.cpp inptstrm.cpp interact.cpp mplex.cpp > multplex.cpp systems.cpp timecode.cpp -I../../driver > .depend > g++ -c -g -Wall -O2 -I../../driver cpptools.cc > g++ -c -g -Wall -O2 -I../../driver main.cc > main.cc: In function `int main(int, char **)': > ctools.h:493: too few arguments to function `void ts_demux2(int, int, int, > unsigned int, unsigned int)' > main.cc:181: at this point in file > ctools.h:493: too few arguments to function `void ts_demux2(int, int, int, > unsigned int, unsigned int)' > main.cc:300: at this point in file > make: *** [main.o] Error 1 > Ok, fixed that. > > av_pes2pes > in > mplex -t MPEG2 -o out in > > I tried the result with "the Hardware" and with xmovie. With both the > audio stops about 14 seconds after the beginning. And the video hangs > after 42 seconds (Video is only tested with xmovie) > What ptsdiff does mplex report after demuxing? I sometimes got cases where audio or video stops after a while when the demuxer can't find good starting PTS values. Then you have to set the video or audio delay by hand. I also had some recordings where audio or video was defective (real errors from bad weather). In that case the bbmpeg routines get confused. Marcus --------------------------------------------------------------------- Dr. Marcus Metzler mocm@netcologne.de http://www.metzlerbros.de mocm@convergence.de http://www.convergence.de Convergence Integrated Media GmbH Rosenthaler Str. 51 D-10178 Berlin --------------------------------------------------------------------- --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From ms@citd.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 00:20:02 +0100 (MET) From: Matthias Schniedermeyer To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] "Feature request" for mplex #include A Parameter for a "Temp"-Directory where the demuxed files are stored. (Small files work "in RAM" for me, but i only have 1 GIG of RAM, so it would be better if the files are stored on another hard disk for much better speed) Bis denn -- Real Programmers consider "what you see is what you get" to be just as bad a concept in Text Editors as it is in women. No, the Real Programmer wants a "you asked for it, you got it" text editor -- complicated, cryptic, powerful, unforgiving, dangerous. --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From ms@citd.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 00:17:50 +0100 From: Matthias Schniedermeyer To: Marcus O.C. Metzler Cc: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: mpegtools & mplex2 #include > > av_pes2pes > in > > mplex -t MPEG2 -o out in > > > > I tried the result with "the Hardware" and with xmovie. With both the > > audio stops about 14 seconds after the beginning. And the video hangs > > after 42 seconds (Video is only tested with xmovie) > > > > What ptsdiff does mplex report after demuxing? Here is the output. This is a "smaller" Version where the video stops a second after the audio. The Audio stops at excatly the same time. -- beiskante -- Setting up for MPEG2 mux Opening tmp_as.mp2 for audio demux Opening tmp_vs.m2v for video demux Demuxing 100.00 % VPTS - APTS = 464ms Scanning video stream for a sequence header and pulldown type ... no pulldown detected ... Scanning video stream for pictures ... Found 4575 picture headers, stream bit offset 514155328.056. Video stream information Stream length : 64269416 Total time (seconds) : 183 Sequence start : 374 Sequence end : 0 No. Pictures : 4575 No. Groups : 374 No. I Frames : 374 avg. size 31126 bytes No. P Frames : 1151 avg. size 18124 bytes No. B Frames : 3050 avg. size 10415 bytes No. D Frames : 0 avg. size 0 bytes Horizontal size : 480 Vertical size : 576 Aspect ratio : 0.6735 Picture rate : 25.000 frames/sec Bit rate : 1875000 bytes/sec (15000000 bits/sec) Computed avg rate : 351250 bytes/sec (2810000 bits/sec) Computed max rate : 421050 bytes/sec (3368400 bits/sec) Vbv buffer size : 229376 bytes CSPF : 0 Scanning audio stream for access units information Found 564 audio frame headers, stream bit offset 2598912. MPEG audio stream information Stream length : 324864 Syncwords : 564 Frames : 564 size 576 bytes Frames : 0 size 577 bytes Layer : 2 CRC checksums : yes Bit rate : 24000 bytes/sec (192 kbit/sec) Frequency : 48.0 kHz Mode : 0 stereo Mode extension : 0 Copyright bit : 0 no copyright Original/Copy : 0 copy Emphasis : 0 none Multiplexing information Video stream data rate : 421050 bytes/sec (3368400 bits/sec) Audio stream 1 data rate : 24000 bytes/sec (192000 bits/sec) Overhead data rate : 8000 bytes/sec (64000 bits/sec) Total data rate : 453050 bytes/sec (3624400 bits/sec) Multiplexing file b Finished multiplexing b -- beiskante -- > I sometimes got cases where audio or video stops after a while when > the demuxer can't find good starting PTS values. Then you have to set > the video or audio delay by hand. > I also had some recordings where audio or video was defective (real > errors from bad weather). In that case the bbmpeg routines get > confused. Thats not the problem. Bis denn -- Real Programmers consider "what you see is what you get" to be just as bad a concept in Text Editors as it is in women. No, the Real Programmer wants a "you asked for it, you got it" text editor -- complicated, cryptic, powerful, unforgiving, dangerous. --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From clemens@root.at Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 01:55:11 +0100 From: Clemens Kirchgatterer To: Matthias Schniedermeyer Cc: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: "Feature request" for mplex Matthias Schniedermeyer wrote: [..] > but i only have 1 GIG of RAM [..] AAAAAAARRRRGGG!!! man, oh man ... ;-)) warm regards ... clemens --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From Andreas@huji.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 07:27:56 +0100 From: Andreas Vitting To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] dvb-s and oms Hi, is there a possibilty to use the dvb-s card with oms (livid project) to decode mpeg from dvd's ??? Exist a plugin for oms ?? Andreas --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From Mario.Ivankovits@ops.co.at Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 08:09:26 +0100 From: Mario Ivankovits To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: Idea to save power (and also your money) with VDR Hello ! > I have a idea to install a RTC that switch the ATX power supply on when VDR > wants to record. > Does someone interests at this project? If you get this work this would be great. byebye Mario --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From RBauer@quark.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 09:43:53 +0100 From: Ralf Bauer To: 'Peter Seyringer' , linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: Idea to save power (and also your money) with VDR Sorry, I don't understand. Are you talking about additional hardware? I don't think this is necessary, because the normal RTC on your mainboard can do that already. Just the software support is missing (I'm not sure, I have to look at the device driver for the RTC first to tell more). Ralf. -----Original Message----- From: Peter Seyringer [mailto:e9425234@stud1.tuwien.ac.at] Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2001 23:03 To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Idea to save power (and also your money) with VDR Hello! I have a idea to install a RTC that switch the ATX power supply on when VDR wants to record. Does someone interests at this project? Peter --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From Thilo.Schunck@apartis.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 10:46:39 +0100 From: Thilo.Schunck@apartis.de To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org, Ralf Bauer Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: Idea to save power (and also your money) with VDR The RTC onboard will not solve the problem of consuming *a lot* of power, 'cause the ATX Power supply is still working! The only solution to get a zero-standby-power-pc is a separate battery/rechargable-RTC (With display?) which is able to switch the mains supply (for the techies: with a Triac etc.) Thilo Ralf Bauer Sent by: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org 23.02.01 09:43 To: "'Peter Seyringer'" , linux-dvb@linuxtv.org cc: Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: Idea to save power (and also your money) with VDR Sorry, I don't understand. Are you talking about additional hardware? I don't think this is necessary, because the normal RTC on your mainboard can do that already. Just the software support is missing (I'm not sure, I have to look at the device driver for the RTC first to tell more). Ralf. -----Original Message----- From: Peter Seyringer [mailto:e9425234@stud1.tuwien.ac.at] Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2001 23:03 To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Idea to save power (and also your money) with VDR Hello! I have a idea to install a RTC that switch the ATX power supply on when VDR wants to record. Does someone interests at this project? Peter --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From RBauer@quark.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 11:16:08 +0100 From: Ralf Bauer To: "'Thilo.Schunck@apartis.de'" , linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: Idea to save power (and also your money) with VDR Sorry, but that's not true. When I call "shutdown" on my machine, it switches off and consumes only 2W. I measured it with an Ampere meter (trust me I'm an electronics engineer ;-) ). Switching the main power is also no real solution for everybody, because most of the mainboards don't boot when power is switched on. I needed a long time to find a mainboard which can be configured in the BIOS to boot on power-up (EPOX 8KTA+). At the moment I'm using a timer (DM 12,95 at ALDI) and set it to power up the VDR about 15 minutes before the first timer event occurs. The power down time is not critical, because I shutdown the system by software, so I chose 06:00. The timer also allows different times for different weekdays. Ralf. -----Original Message----- From: Thilo.Schunck@apartis.de [mailto:Thilo.Schunck@apartis.de] Sent: Friday, February 23, 2001 10:47 To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org; Ralf Bauer Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: Idea to save power (and also your money) with VDR The RTC onboard will not solve the problem of consuming *a lot* of power, 'cause the ATX Power supply is still working! The only solution to get a zero-standby-power-pc is a separate battery/rechargable-RTC (With display?) which is able to switch the mains supply (for the techies: with a Triac etc.) Thilo Ralf Bauer Sent by: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org 23.02.01 09:43 To: "'Peter Seyringer'" , linux-dvb@linuxtv.org cc: Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: Idea to save power (and also your money) with VDR Sorry, I don't understand. Are you talking about additional hardware? I don't think this is necessary, because the normal RTC on your mainboard can do that already. Just the software support is missing (I'm not sure, I have to look at the device driver for the RTC first to tell more). Ralf. -----Original Message----- From: Peter Seyringer [mailto:e9425234@stud1.tuwien.ac.at] Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2001 23:03 To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Idea to save power (and also your money) with VDR Hello! I have a idea to install a RTC that switch the ATX power supply on when VDR wants to record. Does someone interests at this project? Peter --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From martin@hammerschmid.com Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 11:40:03 +0100 From: Martin Hammerschmid To: linux-dvb Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: status bar Matthias Queisler wrote: > > I noticed, that when I am cutting a movie there is no status bar on the > screen. I have to guess when it's ready. So, why no status bar. does anyone stop you from watching the movie while the cutting process is running? > And why there is no volume control in the VDR ?? It's a little bit crappy > that I always have to search for my TV RC to lower or raise the volume. if you want to have volume control, why don't you assign a few additional buttons of your remote control and use them with irexec? (assuming you are using LIRC) 'aumix -v -5' and 'aumix -v +5' do a nice job when called with irexec ... Martin ========== mailto:martin@hammerschmid.com ========== =RSA-PGP-Key ID:0x81783FE7 DH-PGP-Key ID:0x6B66589A= ==================================================== If you cannot convince them, confuse them. --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From jrepetto@francenet.fr Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 12:05:49 +0100 From: Jean-Claude Repetto To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Questions about the hardware I have bought a Hauppauge WinTV-DVBs. I have looked at the ICs on the board, and I have seen : - a TMX320AV7111 - a CY7C024 - a SAA 7146A I can also see an IC in the tuner, but it is covered by a heatsink, so I can't read the reference. There is also a small IC below the tuner, with no recognizable reference. You can see a photograph of the card at http://www.hauppauge.fr/img/h580.jpg I have read some messages of this forum, and it seems that some cards contain a TMX320AV7110, and a VES1893. What is the differences between the 7110 and the 7111 ? I have read a message from Patrick Le Poultier (Texas instruments), saying that the 7110 is no longer under NDA. Do you know if the 7111 is under NDA or not ? Is is possible to download the data sheets, or have I to ask Mr Le Poultier ? May be the IC in the tuner with a heatsink is the VES1893 ? I suppose it is still under NDA, isn't it ? BTW, why is there a support for the MSP3400 in the DVB driver ? I thounght it was only for analog TV ? Jean-Claude --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From Thilo.Schunck@apartis.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 13:02:07 +0100 From: Thilo.Schunck@apartis.de To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: Idea to save power (and also your money) with VDR Hmmm, great! Pls. tell us the brand and type of your power supply. PS. Where did your measure the current, secondary or primary of PSU ?!? Ralf Bauer Sent by: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org 23.02.01 11:16 To: "'Thilo.Schunck@apartis.de'" , linux-dvb@linuxtv.org cc: Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: Idea to save power (and also your money) with VDR Sorry, but that's not true. When I call "shutdown" on my machine, it switches off and consumes only 2W. I measured it with an Ampere meter (trust me I'm an electronics engineer ;-) ). Switching the main power is also no real solution for everybody, because most of the mainboards don't boot when power is switched on. I needed a long time to find a mainboard which can be configured in the BIOS to boot on power-up (EPOX 8KTA+). At the moment I'm using a timer (DM 12,95 at ALDI) and set it to power up the VDR about 15 minutes before the first timer event occurs. The power down time is not critical, because I shutdown the system by software, so I chose 06:00. The timer also allows different times for different weekdays. Ralf. -----Original Message----- From: Thilo.Schunck@apartis.de [mailto:Thilo.Schunck@apartis.de] Sent: Friday, February 23, 2001 10:47 To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org; Ralf Bauer Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: Idea to save power (and also your money) with VDR The RTC onboard will not solve the problem of consuming *a lot* of power, 'cause the ATX Power supply is still working! The only solution to get a zero-standby-power-pc is a separate battery/rechargable-RTC (With display?) which is able to switch the mains supply (for the techies: with a Triac etc.) Thilo Ralf Bauer Sent by: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org 23.02.01 09:43 To: "'Peter Seyringer'" , linux-dvb@linuxtv.org cc: Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: Idea to save power (and also your money) with VDR Sorry, I don't understand. Are you talking about additional hardware? I don't think this is necessary, because the normal RTC on your mainboard can do that already. Just the software support is missing (I'm not sure, I have to look at the device driver for the RTC first to tell more). Ralf. -----Original Message----- From: Peter Seyringer [mailto:e9425234@stud1.tuwien.ac.at] Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2001 23:03 To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Idea to save power (and also your money) with VDR Hello! I have a idea to install a RTC that switch the ATX power supply on when VDR wants to record. Does someone interests at this project? Peter --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From schoeller@gmx.at Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 13:17:17 +0100 From: Johannes Schoeller To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org, Ralf Bauer , Thilo.Schunck@apartis.de Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: Idea to save power (and also your money) with VDR as far as i know (and i did install a power meter between the wall plug and my computer), my pc only needs about 3Watts when in "suspend to ram" mode. in "normal standby" mode it consumes about 30Watts, which is by far too much, but i could live with about 5-10Watts. :)) regards Johannes Schoeller ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; "Ralf Bauer" Sent: Friday, February 23, 2001 10:46 AM Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: Idea to save power (and also your money) with VDR > The RTC onboard will not solve the problem of consuming *a lot* of power, > 'cause > the ATX Power supply is still working! The only solution to get a > zero-standby-power-pc > is a separate battery/rechargable-RTC (With display?) which is able to > switch the mains supply > (for the techies: with a Triac etc.) > > Thilo > > > > > > Ralf Bauer > Sent by: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org > 23.02.01 09:43 > > > To: "'Peter Seyringer'" , linux-dvb@linuxtv.org > cc: > Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: Idea to save power (and also your money) with VDR > > Sorry, I don't understand. Are you talking about additional hardware? > I don't think this is necessary, because the normal RTC on your mainboard > can do that already. Just the software support is missing (I'm not sure, I > have to look at the device driver for the RTC first to tell more). > > Ralf. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Peter Seyringer [mailto:e9425234@stud1.tuwien.ac.at] > Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2001 23:03 > To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org > Subject: [linux-dvb] Idea to save power (and also your money) with VDR > > > Hello! > > I have a idea to install a RTC that switch the ATX power supply on when > VDR > wants to record. > Does someone interests at this project? > > Peter > > > --- > Info: > To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe > linux-dvb" as subject. > > > --- > Info: > To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe > linux-dvb" as subject. > > > > > > > --- > Info: > To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. > > --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From e9425234@stud1.tuwien.ac.at Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 20:51:09 +0100 From: Peter Seyringer To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Idea to save power (and also your money) with VDR Hello! I have a idea to install a RTC that switch the ATX power supply on when VDR wants to record. Does someone interests at this project? Peter --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From shakey@zaiste.com Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 15:24:05 +0100 From: shakey To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] help me PLEASE i have dvb0 interface dvbd2 is running good.. sync=127 but i cannot ping EON proxy.. why? in logs i have something like this: dvb[4232]: SETBFILTER[0]: Bad address what's up? PLEASE HELP ME tahnks.. martin --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From JGroth@gmx.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 16:07:06 +0100 From: Jens Groth To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] AW: Re: Idea to save power (and also your money) with VDR Hello, the idea of starting the PC via RTC sounds great. I just took a look in my mainboard manual (Gigabyte GA-6BA). This board support AT and ATX power supplies and has an Award BIOS. If you configure it for ATX, then you can enter an alarm for startup in the bios. So it should be really just some programming to get this feature to be integrated in to linux. What I also found is an external switch from ELV. It is called the PC-Timer-Switch TS3000 (DM 99,95). Interfaces: - Paralellel (in/out) - Keyboard (in/out) - Switched power (3 connectors) - 3 external switches - Modem/Fax input - Dimension 40x133x208mm For further details go to http://www.elv.de For those of you with AT mainboards this might be an alternative (instead of buying a new board/powersupply). cu Jens > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > Von: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org > [mailto:linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org]Im Auftrag von Ralf Bauer > Gesendet: Freitag, 23. Februar 2001 11:16 > An: 'Thilo.Schunck@apartis.de'; linux-dvb@linuxtv.org > Betreff: [linux-dvb] Re: Idea to save power (and also your money) with > VDR > > > Sorry, but that's not true. > When I call "shutdown" on my machine, it switches off and > consumes only 2W. > I measured it with an Ampere meter (trust me I'm an electronics > engineer ;-) > ). > > Switching the main power is also no real solution for everybody, because > most of the mainboards don't boot when power is switched on. I > needed a long > time to find a mainboard which can be configured in the BIOS to boot on > power-up (EPOX 8KTA+). > > At the moment I'm using a timer (DM 12,95 at ALDI) and set it to power up > the VDR about 15 minutes before the first timer event occurs. The > power down > time is not critical, because I shutdown the system by software, > so I chose > 06:00. The timer also allows different times for different weekdays. > > Ralf. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Thilo.Schunck@apartis.de [mailto:Thilo.Schunck@apartis.de] > Sent: Friday, February 23, 2001 10:47 > To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org; Ralf Bauer > Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: Idea to save power (and also your money) with > VDR > > > The RTC onboard will not solve the problem of consuming *a lot* of power, > 'cause > the ATX Power supply is still working! The only solution to get a > zero-standby-power-pc > is a separate battery/rechargable-RTC (With display?) which is able to > switch the mains supply > (for the techies: with a Triac etc.) > > Thilo > > > > > > Ralf Bauer > Sent by: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org > 23.02.01 09:43 > > > To: "'Peter Seyringer'" , > linux-dvb@linuxtv.org > cc: > Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: Idea to save power (and also your > money) with VDR > > Sorry, I don't understand. Are you talking about additional hardware? > I don't think this is necessary, because the normal RTC on your mainboard > can do that already. Just the software support is missing (I'm not sure, I > have to look at the device driver for the RTC first to tell more). > > Ralf. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Peter Seyringer [mailto:e9425234@stud1.tuwien.ac.at] > Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2001 23:03 > To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org > Subject: [linux-dvb] Idea to save power (and also your money) with VDR > > > Hello! > > I have a idea to install a RTC that switch the ATX power supply on when > VDR > wants to record. > Does someone interests at this project? > > Peter > > > --- > Info: > To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe > linux-dvb" as subject. > > > --- > Info: > To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe > linux-dvb" as subject. > > > > > > > --- > Info: > To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe > linux-dvb" as subject. > > > --- > Info: > To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with > "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. > --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From JGroth@gmx.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 16:07:07 +0100 From: Jens Groth To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] AW: Re: Minimum system Hello Emil, I am also thinking of setting up a linux based VDR. Currently I am using a K6-2/300 with a videologic card to watch DVD and playback MP3. AFAIK the videologic/ hollywood+ card is not fully supported by linux (only DVD playback and no AC3). So I will setup a dualboot machine. > I think we need something very small and quiet in the living room. I am > also thinking about splitting the functionality. A small diskless box > with one SAT card in the living room and other places and a server with ... > integrated into this. For the small box I have already thought about the > use of CompactPCI components. Just a CPU board, a CompactPCI/PCI adapter > and a DVB Card. The CPU board contains everything which is on a normal > CPU board including 100BaseT and graphic. Combine this with a > LCD-Display and a IR control and a proper housing and this would make a > very compact system. The Linux system could be loaded into flash if > necessary. I don't know the prices of the components yet. I was also thinking of such a design. I have been looking for a "pizza box" computer case with a riser card. But haven't found an satisfying solution. In c't 02/2001, page 27, two FlexATX board were mentioned. The board look quite nice and has everything you need (LAN, VGA, 2xPCI). I have also found a 32MB flashdrive, with an ATA connector (just plug it in the mainboard ATA-connector). Should cost arround DM 250,-. If you really want a "diskless" station, this seems a good solution though it is not cheap. cu Jens --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From lartur@cs.tut.fi Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 17:30:57 +0200 (EET) From: Lugmayr Artur To: Johannes Stezenbach Cc: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: dsm-cc format In addition there is also ISO/IEC 13818-6 (or 8) which only describes this topic. The software side is described in the MHP/DVB standard ETSI TS 101 812. L@ > ETSI document EN 301 192 "DVB specification for data broadcasting" > defines various ways to put data in MPEG2 transport streams. > IIRC, DSM-CC-over-MPEG2 is layered on top of the MPEG2 section structure > defined in ISO 13818-1, namely the "private section syntax". > I can't help you any further, as I am not an expert in this > area. Reading the standard documents might help you. > > Johannes > > > --- > Info: > To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. > --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From Stefan.Hagendorn@lindy.cc Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 17:24:31 +0100 From: Stefan.Hagendorn@lindy.cc To: linux-dvb Cc: Matjaz Thaler , Klaus Schmidinger Subject: [linux-dvb] Playing recordings with dvdplayer from matjaz ??? Hi all, think .. think ..think .. (c) TIGGER my (digital capable) soundcard (see my last post) has arrived and soon I will start to set it up. AFAIK the dvdplayer from matjaz supports sending ac3 strreams to a decoder or player (ac3dec or ac3spdif maybe ac3play ???). A VOB File is a kind of MPEG2 PS right ? and the recordings from the VDR/DVB are MPEG2 PS too ?? right ?? .. now what happen when I play a "normal" recording with the dvdplayer .. should work imho. If the recording contains a secondary Audio Stream and I choose the right (via dvdplayer) I should hear the Ac3 stream ?? Is it possible to modify VDR (or must this be done in the driver) to include a second APID in the recording .. Or in the first step .. maybe configure the AC3 APID .. and play the recording with dvdplayer (ok it's muted while recording ) Just some thoughts .. will start the tests now ... Greetings Stefan --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From gfiala@s.netic.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 17:59:33 +0100 From: Guido Fiala To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: AW: Re: Idea to save power (and also your money) with VDR Jens Groth wrote: >Hello, > >the idea of starting the PC via RTC sounds great. >I just took a look in my mainboard manual (Gigabyte GA-6BA). >This board support AT and ATX power supplies and has >an Award BIOS. If you configure it for ATX, then you >can enter an alarm for startup in the bios. So it should >be really just some programming to get this feature to be >integrated in to linux. Is it really just the RTC-Chip's alarm-timer that needs to be programmed? (or is it a special timer in the mainboard?) That should be easy, is'nt there some code available already? Then there should be a switch-off strategy depending on minimum off time between to timers, and no off when using keyboard/irda/... --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From Tibor.Loevei@t-online.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 18:29:02 +0100 From: Tibor Loevei To: "linux-dvb@linuxtv.org" Subject: [linux-dvb] last_section_number PMT PAT ?? hi , on the astra satellite system i have problems to scan the audio pid on the rtl transponder. the pmt pid is 0x44 , on this pid i can find only the video pid for rtl. the last_section_number on the pat and pmt is always 0 on my system. what is the problem ? --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From Thilo.Schunck@apartis.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 19:40:00 +0100 From: Thilo.Schunck@apartis.de To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Hauppauge WinTV PVR All, Has anyone some experiences using Hauppauge WinTV PVR with VDR ? Is there a linux driver available ?? --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From matjaz.thaler@guest.arnes.si Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 20:08:48 +0100 From: Matjaz Thaler To: Stefan.Hagendorn@lindy.cc Cc: linux-dvb Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: Playing recordings with dvdplayer from matjaz ??? [ The following text is in the "iso-8859-2" character set. ] [ Your display is set for the "ISO-8859-1" character set. ] [ Some characters may be displayed incorrectly. ] Stefan.Hagendorn@lindy.cc wrote: > AFAIK the dvdplayer from matjaz supports sending ac3 strreams to a decoder > or player (ac3dec or ac3spdif maybe ac3play ???). You can define any ac3 player with the -o command line option. > A VOB File is a kind of MPEG2 PS right ? and the recordings from the > VDR/DVB are MPEG2 PS too ?? right ?? .. now what happen when I play a > "normal" recording with the dvdplayer .. should work imho. No, recorded MPEG2 stream doesn't work with dvdplayer. Due to css decoding dvdplayer accepts only 2kB packets. Matjaz --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From dvrproject@seyringer.priv.at Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 22:12:07 +0100 From: Peter Seyringer To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Save Mony part 2 Hallo! First i will say some words about me. I doesn't have a VDR build now. I will go on the next day to buy all thinks i will need to build, but i am a student and does not have to much money at a time. So the facts of the power switching is: * It works only with a ATX Motherboard and ATX Power supply. I would also work on old power supply, but i dont want to implentent them now because all types of pc you will need for the VDR are a Pentium II class and they are ATX (normaly) * If you switch a ATX motherboad off with "shutdown now -h" you get also get power from the power supply to switch the motherboard on. (I don't know if it is 5V or 3.3V but this is not importent) * Some motherboards have a internal timer to switch on the computer. Forget this timer. Not all motherboards support this and nobody knows how to program it. * To switch a motherboard on or off, you only need to contact two pins on the motherboard. >From now one i will call the "PIC for controlling and the RTC-Timer" only RTC How will my idee work. * VDR will tell the RTC when VDR wants to record next time (the timer will set about 10 minutes for booting your system) and after that VDR switch the PC off (shutdown). * If the time is come, the RTC will contact the two pins to switch the VDR on. VDR starts normaly and start recording of the movie. After the record, VDR tells the RTC when he wants to switch on at next time, or if he doesn't tell it, the RTC doensn't wake up the PC anymore. * the VDR should also start with the IR if you press the power button. What do you think about this idee. If you find them good, i will need somebody how patch VDR to work with this switch. Peter P.S.: sorry for my bad english, but my native language is german. --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From MaSzengel@t-online.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 21:05:35 +0100 From: Marian Szengel To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: MPLEX works now with DVB-S FILES On Wednesday 21 February 2001 22:29, Axel Gruber wrote: > The new MPLEX works now with the Audio/Video Files splitted by the ES_DEMUX > utility of the DVB DRIVER ! > > WOW - That´s a great thing :-) > > The second good thing is: The Output Stream can be read by > "FLASK-MPEG-ENCODER" (WINDOWS) - this is a TRANSCODER - I have tryed to > convert several Recordings (60Min - 140MIN) to VCD (MPEG1 - 44,1khz - > 115000Bitrate - lower Resolution). The result is realy great: Audio and > VIDEO is SYNC !!! - From the Beginning of the file to the end ! > > I have burned 3 Movie´s to VCD and playback it in my DVD-Player - works > very well... > > The next step is a LINUX-BASED TRANSCODER - does anyone know such a > Solution ? > > I have tryed a Encoder (found in the I-NET) - but with it i can´t convert > to lower resolution (needed for VCD) and the SYNC between AUDIO/VIDEO goes > away to the end of the file.... Hallo, geht der www.emulinks.de/divx/ ? -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen Marian --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From dvrproject@seyringer.priv.at Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 22:58:55 +0100 From: Peter Seyringer To: Ratschkowski Tobias , linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: Save Mony part 2 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ratschkowski Tobias" To: "'Peter Seyringer '" Sent: Friday, February 23, 2001 10:53 PM Subject: AW: [linux-dvb] Save Mony part 2 > >What do you think about this idee. If you find them good, i will need > >somebody how patch VDR to work with this switch. > >Peter > > Great Idea ! Do you have the switch just ready ? Or do > you need to build it ? > > Cheers! > tobias > --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From dvrproject@seyringer.priv.at Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 23:01:31 +0100 From: Peter Seyringer To: Ratschkowski Tobias , linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: Save Mony part 2 Hello! I doesn't have build one. I found last week a article about VDR in the c't Magazine. I only know about one realy working system like that. It is the Micronik 13xx. But in the last firmware relases there are a lot of bugs. If i have tomorrow time, i will create the schematic of my idea! Peter ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ratschkowski Tobias" To: "'Peter Seyringer '" Sent: Friday, February 23, 2001 10:53 PM Subject: AW: [linux-dvb] Save Mony part 2 > >What do you think about this idee. If you find them good, i will need > >somebody how patch VDR to work with this switch. > >Peter > > Great Idea ! Do you have the switch just ready ? Or do > you need to build it ? > > Cheers! > tobias > --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From liste@steely.dyndns.org Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 12:49:38 +0100 From: Massimiliano Perantoni To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Hauppauge DVB-s EON configuration Hi! I have been wandering through docs, but couldn't find anything really exaustive about configuring a Proxy to let it talk to EON, or better I found something, but it doesn't seem to work... My actual state is that the kernel loads ALL modules and from dmesg it understands that I'm correctly Working. The matter is that the eon proxies seem deaf to me (neither telnet in port 8080 nor ping): what should I setup to let all the stuff go? I must say 3 things: 1 The card works great, it shows images from astra in a perfect way, so it should be configured correctly, isn't it? 2 The device dvb0 is up and running 3 My network setup is the following: The DVB is connected to my PC that has squid installed, it's behind a firewall router that let's me out of the net masquerading me through an ISDN line, but the firewall is not important as all the doors are open. I guess that the real problem isn't where the proxy resides, as if it was ALL working guess I should see some packets on the dvb0, while tcpdump is dumb... HELP ME! Ciao Massimiliano --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From shakey@zaiste.com Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 13:27:49 +0100 From: shakey To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: Hauppauge DVB-s EON configuration i've got similar problem.. --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From J.Riechardt@gmx.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 14:54:48 +0100 From: Joerg Riechardt To: "linux-dvb@linuxtv.org" Subject: [linux-dvb] Suggestions Hello, I would like to make some suggestions for features I'm missing in the vdr and would like to have. 1. the possibility to in/decrease volume of the sound output on the DVBs card 2. the possibility for automatic shutdown after the last active timer has finished recording, maybe as a command in the commands menu 3. two fast forward speeds, toggled by pressing "right" button again, could be 4x and 12x speed, (if that works with the frames), same for backward 4. maybe another skip forward/backward of 10 minutes to navigate quicker through a film, could be red skip -10 min green skip -1 min yellow skip -1 min blue skip -10 min (and stop on another button, or no stop as back will do) Jörg --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From silvan.graf@gmx.ch Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 16:47:25 +0100 From: Silvan Graf To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: Hauppauge DVB-s EON configuration Hi > The DVB is connected to my PC that has squid installed, it's behind a firewall router that let's me out of the net masquerading me through an ISDN line, but the firewall is not important as all the doors are open. Your firewall is the problem even if all the doors are open. The main problem is that masquerading changes the source port of your request. Have a look at http://obiwan.hvrlab.org/~faz/eon/eon_masq.html where exactly this problem is explained. Silvan --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From shakey@zaiste.com Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 17:52:18 +0100 From: shakey To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: Hauppauge DVB-s EON configuration Silvan Graf wrote: > > Hi > > > The DVB is connected to my PC that has squid installed, it's behind a > firewall router that let's me out of the net masquerading me through an ISDN > line, but the firewall is not important as all the doors are open. > > Your firewall is the problem even if all the doors are open. The main > problem is that masquerading changes the source port of your request. > > Have a look at http://obiwan.hvrlab.org/~faz/eon/eon_masq.html where exactly > this problem is explained. i don't have firewall but i cannon ping eon proxy too.. why? i logs i've got something about Bad address for SETBFILTER (PID's in config) help me, pliz :| --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From nivea@writeme.com Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 18:23:43 +0100 From: Matthias Rieber To: "linux-dvb@linuxtv.org" Subject: [linux-dvb] DVB-C audio out Hello, I've a problem with the audio out of the DVB-c card. I only get sound on the right channel. With the windows driver I get stereo output. Is this a known issue? Is there a mixer device to change volume? matthias --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From ms@citd.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 18:53:53 +0100 (MET) From: Matthias Schniedermeyer To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Master-Timer 0.0.3 #include I rewrote the whole "torecord" handling, so that you can now use Title/Subtitle/Description for choosing the Timer-Events. And you can restrict the Timers to specific Channels and "Timeframes". Bis denn -- Real Programmers consider "what you see is what you get" to be just as bad a concept in Text Editors as it is in women. No, the Real Programmer wants a "you asked for it, you got it" text editor -- complicated, cryptic, powerful, unforgiving, dangerous. --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From ms@citd.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 18:59:13 +0100 (MET) From: Matthias Schniedermeyer To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Master-Timer 0.0.3 (The things i forgot ) #include URL is ftp://ftp.paderlinx.de/pub/citd/master-timer-0.0.3.tar.gz Edit line 39 (The hostname of the VDR-Computer) If you want the Master-Timer to actually transfer the Timers to VDR, you have to uncomment line 52 ("&transfertimers();") Bis denn -- Real Programmers consider "what you see is what you get" to be just as bad a concept in Text Editors as it is in women. No, the Real Programmer wants a "you asked for it, you got it" text editor -- complicated, cryptic, powerful, unforgiving, dangerous. --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From J.Riechardt@gmx.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 22:31:12 +0100 From: Joerg Riechardt To: "linux-dvb@linuxtv.org" Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: Suggestions 1. Well, my TV has volume control, but when connected to the DVBs card, the TV sound is terribly disturbed, probably a ground loop, I tried out a lot,but couldn't stop it.So I don't use the TV speakers. That's why. 3. > Pressing the "Left" and "Right" buttons again is already assigned to > stopping FR/FF. So I guess you would need two additional buttons for this. Pressing "Up" = Play does the same, wouldn't be a loss. Jörg --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From greg@ulima.unil.ch Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 23:41:02 +0100 From: Gregoire Favre To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] CAM problems... Hello, I have some kind of problems with CAMs... With an older CVS (that cam out about with ac17) I got the following errors :Feb 24 23:12:07 localhost kernel: saa7146_core.o: saa7146(1): bus:0, rev:1, mem:0xd29bb000. Feb 24 23:12:07 localhost kernel: VES1893: attaching VES1893 at 0x10 to adapter saa7146(1) Feb 24 23:12:10 localhost kernel: dvb: ARM firmware successfully loaded. Feb 24 23:12:11 localhost kernel: dvb: firmware = f0240009 Feb 24 23:12:11 localhost kernel: dvb: MAC = 00 d0 5c 00 41 90 Feb 24 23:12:11 localhost kernel: dvb: 1 dvb(s) found! Feb 24 23:12:11 localhost kernel: tuner: chip found @ 0x61 Feb 24 23:12:12 localhost kernel: outcommand error 1 Feb 24 23:12:15 localhost last message repeated 2 times Feb 24 23:12:16 localhost kernel: dvb: ARM RESET And I got ARM RESET repeated ad nauseam... The only things I can do is to use Magic SysRq (E, then S, U and finally B). And if I don't have that message, it's working. With the latest DVD (just checked right now...) I have never succeeded in using my cams: Feb 24 17:40:56 localhost kernel: i2c-core.o: i2c core module Feb 24 17:40:56 localhost kernel: Linux video capture interface: v1.00 Feb 24 17:40:56 localhost kernel: i2c-core.o: driver i2c TV tuner driver registered. Feb 24 17:40:56 localhost kernel: i2c-core.o: driver VES1893 DVB DECODER registered. Feb 24 17:40:56 localhost kernel: i2c-core.o: driver VES1820 DVB DECODER registered. Feb 24 17:40:56 localhost kernel: saa7146_core.o: saa7146(1): bus:0, rev:1, mem:0xd29b6000. Feb 24 17:40:57 localhost kernel: tuner: chip found @ 0x61 Feb 24 17:40:57 localhost kernel: i2c-core.o: client [i2c tv tuner chip] registered to adapter [saa7146(1)](pos. 0). Feb 24 17:40:57 localhost kernel: i2c-core.o: client [VES1893] registered to adapter [saa7146(1)](pos. 1). Feb 24 17:40:57 localhost kernel: VES1893: attaching VES1893 at 0x10 to adapter saa7146(1) Feb 24 17:40:57 localhost kernel: i2c-core.o: adapter saa7146(1) registered as adapter 0. Feb 24 17:41:00 localhost kernel: dvb: firmware = f0240009 Feb 24 17:41:00 localhost kernel: dvb: MAC = 00 d0 5c 00 41 90 Feb 24 17:41:00 localhost kernel: function : dvbdmx_connect_frontend Feb 24 17:41:03 localhost kernel: dvb: IRQ_RX=0 Feb 24 17:41:03 localhost kernel: dvb: 1 dvb(s) found! Feb 24 17:41:03 localhost bttv: sync And as I launch vdr, my system hangs... some times and some times just keep alive... Feb 24 22:57:56 localhost kernel: 01 02 01 00 56 69 61 63 63 65 73 73 00 03 Viaccess Feb 24 22:58:21 localhost vdr[1533]: VDR version 0.71 started Feb 24 22:58:21 localhost vdr[1533]: loading /video/setup.conf Feb 24 22:58:21 localhost vdr[1533]: loading /video/channels.conf Feb 24 22:58:21 localhost vdr[1533]: loading /video/timers.conf Feb 24 22:58:21 localhost vdr[1533]: loading /video/keys-pc.conf Feb 24 22:58:21 localhost vdr[1533]: probing /dev/video0 Feb 24 22:58:22 localhost vdr[1535]: EIT processing thread started (pid=1535) - master Feb 24 22:58:22 localhost vdr[1533]: probing /dev/video1 Feb 24 22:58:22 localhost vdr[1533]: ERROR: /dev/video1: Device or resource busy Feb 24 22:58:22 localhost vdr[1533]: found 1 video device Feb 24 22:58:22 localhost vdr[1533]: setting primary DVB to 1 Feb 24 22:58:22 localhost vdr[1533]: switching to channel 615 Feb 24 22:58:23 localhost kernel: commandrequest error Feb 24 22:58:23 localhost kernel: dvb: filter shutdown error :49151 Feb 24 22:58:24 localhost kernel: outcommand error 1 Feb 24 22:58:24 localhost kernel: dvb: ARM RESET Feb 24 22:58:37 localhost kernel: commandrequest error The 2 lines just repeat a hudge number of times... Is there something I could try to solve that problem? Do I am the only one with that problem, I use latest kernel (with the latest CVS, it's 2.4.2-ac2, I haven't tried ac3) and egcs-2.91.66 to compil everything. Without the CAM, every thing works just great ;-) Thanks you very much, Greg ________________________________________________________________ http://ulima.unil.ch/greg ICQ:16624071 mailto:greg@ulima.unil.ch --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From greg@ulima.unil.ch Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 01:17:28 +0100 From: Gregoire Favre To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: CAM problems... Rehello, I have written too fast... Even without CAM, I have problem, if I run the last vdr I managed to compil (0.71pre7) it also hangs my system. I haven't try pre8, but pre9 doesn't compil for me, and pre10: kg++ -g -O2 -Wall -m486 -c -DREMOTE_KBD -I../DVB/driver dvbapi.c dvbapi.c: In method `cReplayBuffer::~cReplayBuffer()': dvbapi.c:974: `VID_PLAY_CLEAR_BUFFER' undeclared (first use this function) dvbapi.c:974: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once dvbapi.c:974: for each function it appears in.) dvbapi.c: In method `void cReplayBuffer::Action()': dvbapi.c:998: confused by earlier errors, bailing out make: *** [dvbapi.o] Error 1 And if I try to recompil pre7 against the CVS DVB, it also fail: kg++ -g -O2 -Wall -m486 -c -DREMOTE_LIRC -I../DVB/driver dvbapi.c dvbapi.c: In method `cReplayBuffer::~cReplayBuffer()': dvbapi.c:974: `VID_PLAY_CLEAR_BUFFER' undeclared (first use this function) dvbapi.c:974: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once dvbapi.c:974: for each function it appears in.) dvbapi.c: In method `void cReplayBuffer::Action()': dvbapi.c:998: confused by earlier errors, bailing out make: *** [dvbapi.o] Error 1 And that the same with 0.70. Any idea? (other than having vdr with dvb together in sync) Thanks you very much, Greg ________________________________________________________________ http://ulima.unil.ch/greg ICQ:16624071 mailto:greg@ulima.unil.ch --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From greg@ulima.unil.ch Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 02:17:14 +0100 From: Gregoire Favre To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: CAM problems... Hello, sorry, last message, it just to say that tuxzap work for me, and REALLY REALLY WELL ;-)))))) TREMENDOUS !!! Do you know if there is a way to keep the last channel when I quit tuxzap? I haven't understood the format for the channels... Is it true that the dvbfav0 (and 1,2,...) depends on dvbrc? I am really happy :-)) Greg ________________________________________________________________ http://ulima.unil.ch/greg ICQ:16624071 mailto:greg@ulima.unil.ch --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From rjkm@convergence.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 01:24:45 +0100 (CET) From: Ralph Metzler To: Matthias Rieber Cc: "linux-dvb@linuxtv.org" Subject: [linux-dvb] DVB-C audio out Matthias Rieber writes: > Hello, > > I've a problem with the audio out of the DVB-c card. I only get sound on > the right channel. With the windows driver I get stereo output. Is this > a known issue? No, works fine here. > Is there a mixer device to change volume? No, not yet. Ralph --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From Mike.Neuhaus@gmx.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 10:55:27 +0100 From: Mike Neuhaus To: dvb-liste Subject: [linux-dvb] *.vdr file length Hi, i want to burn recorded video-files on cd-r. For this i need a file length of 650MB. How can set the length of the *.vdr -files to this value? grretings Mike Neuhaus -- for phone - user:call Mike.Neuhaus@gmx.de or add Mike.Neuhaus@gmx.de please use phone...the open-source linux telephony program! download and subscribe at http://www.linuxmotors.com/phone --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From Klaus.Schmidinger@cadsoft.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 11:06:06 +0100 From: Klaus Schmidinger To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: CAM problems... Gregoire Favre wrote: > > Rehello, > > I have written too fast... Even without CAM, I have problem, if I run > the last vdr I managed to compil (0.71pre7) it also hangs my system. > I haven't try pre8, but pre9 doesn't compil for me, and pre10: > kg++ -g -O2 -Wall -m486 -c -DREMOTE_KBD -I../DVB/driver dvbapi.c > dvbapi.c: In method `cReplayBuffer::~cReplayBuffer()': > dvbapi.c:974: `VID_PLAY_CLEAR_BUFFER' undeclared (first use this > function) > dvbapi.c:974: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once > dvbapi.c:974: for each function it appears in.) > dvbapi.c: In method `void cReplayBuffer::Action()': > dvbapi.c:998: confused by earlier errors, bailing out > make: *** [dvbapi.o] Error 1 > > And if I try to recompil pre7 against the CVS DVB, it also fail: > kg++ -g -O2 -Wall -m486 -c -DREMOTE_LIRC -I../DVB/driver dvbapi.c > dvbapi.c: In method `cReplayBuffer::~cReplayBuffer()': > dvbapi.c:974: `VID_PLAY_CLEAR_BUFFER' undeclared (first use this > function) > dvbapi.c:974: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once > dvbapi.c:974: for each function it appears in.) > dvbapi.c: In method `void cReplayBuffer::Action()': > dvbapi.c:998: confused by earlier errors, bailing out > make: *** [dvbapi.o] Error 1 > > And that the same with 0.70. > > Any idea? (other than having vdr with dvb together in sync) The macro VID_PLAY_CLEAR_BUFFER is defined in DVB/driver/videodev.h. VDR needs this in order to work as designed. If this macro is not defined, you may be using an outdated version of the driver, or the compiler may include a different version of that file. On my system there is also such a file at /usr/src/linux-2.2.13.SuSE/include/linux/videodev.h, which doesn't contain that macro definition. Klaus -- _______________________________________________________________ Klaus Schmidinger Phone: +49-8635-6989-10 CadSoft Computer GmbH Fax: +49-8635-6989-40 Hofmark 2 Email: kls@cadsoft.de D-84568 Pleiskirchen, Germany URL: www.cadsoft.de _______________________________________________________________ --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From mocm@convergence.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 11:25:31 +0100 (CET) From: Marcus O.C. Metzler To: Gregoire Favre Cc: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: CAM problems... Gregoire Favre writes: > I haven't understood the format for the channels... > Is it true that the dvbfav0 (and 1,2,...) depends on dvbrc? It depends on .dvbrc in that way that you need the information for the favorite channels to be present in .dvbrc . The favorite channels are defined by a 64bit number which includes the network id (16bit) the satellite id (16bit) the transponder id (16bit) and the channel id (16bit). This number should be unique for all channels. And after creating a new .dvbrc (e.g. with stest) it should be possible to find the favorite channels again. I worked for me, as long as the scan finds the transponders again. Marcus --------------------------------------------------------------------- Dr. Marcus Metzler mocm@netcologne.de http://www.metzlerbros.de mocm@convergence.de http://www.convergence.de Convergence Integrated Media GmbH Rosenthaler Str. 51 D-10178 Berlin --------------------------------------------------------------------- --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From pzabel@gmx.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 11:32:45 +0100 From: Philipp Zabel To: dvb-liste Subject: [linux-dvb] mpeg1 playback Hi! I want to play back some old mpeg1 files (vcd format) using the DVB-s' hardware decoder (ntuxplayer). In some of them there were audio glitches and audio & video weren't in sync (audio about 1/3 sec too early) - these mpegs played back fine with sw decoders like windows media player or mtvp (mpegtv). What could be the reason for these problems? Bad multiplexing? Driver promlems? Anything else? And what could I do against this? Is there a software demuxer that can feed the DVB with the video and my soundcard with the audio signal (and keep them in sync)? Or is anybody working on anything like this? Or do I have to demux/remultiplex the streams? Which tools could or should I use to do this? Or what could I do else? Any ideas are welcome! :-) grusz pHilipp Zabel --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From Klaus.Schmidinger@cadsoft.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 11:42:01 +0100 From: Klaus Schmidinger To: dvb-liste Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: *.vdr file length Mike Neuhaus wrote: > > Hi, > i want to burn recorded video-files on cd-r. For this i need a file length > of 650MB. How can set the length of the *.vdr -files to this value? You can change the value of the macro #define MAXVIDEOFILESIZE (1024*1024*1024) // Byte in dvbapi.c to the desired value. Klaus -- _______________________________________________________________ Klaus Schmidinger Phone: +49-8635-6989-10 CadSoft Computer GmbH Fax: +49-8635-6989-40 Hofmark 2 Email: kls@cadsoft.de D-84568 Pleiskirchen, Germany URL: www.cadsoft.de _______________________________________________________________ --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From Klaus.Schmidinger@cadsoft.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 11:45:07 +0100 From: Klaus Schmidinger To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Video Disk Recorder version 0.71 The new version 0.71 of the Video Disk Recorder project is now available at http://www.cadsoft.de/people/kls/vdr/download.htm NOTE: For those of you who have already downloaded the 0.71pre10 archive: version 0.71 is identical to 0.71pre10, so you don't need to download the "official" 0.71 archive. - VDR now requires that you use DVB driver version 0.8.2 or higher. - The new compile time option REMOTE=NONE can be used to compile VDR without any remote control support. - The new command line option -D can be used to define which DVB interfaces a certain instance of VDR shall use. - The "Left" and "Right" keys are now used to page up and down in lists. - The "Main" and "Commands" menu now support "hotkeys". - The channel data in 'channels.conf' now contains the teletext PID. - The EPG scanner now scans each transponder only once per cycle. - Deleted recordings are now automatically removed from disk after a while. - The "Now", "Next" and "Schedule" menus now remember the current channel and restore the list when switching between them. - The "Green" button in the "Recordings" menu can now be used to rewind a recording and play it from the very beginning. - New SVDRP command MESG to display a short message on the OSD. - SVDRP now has a timeout after which the connection is automatically closed. - The compile time switch VFAT can be used to make VDR avoid the ':' character in file names (VFAT can't handle them). - Support for DVB-C (cable). - A value of '0' for the EPGScanTimeout setup parameter now completely turns off scanning for EPG data on both single and multiple card systems. - New setup parameter "PrimaryLimit" that allows to prevent timers from using the primary DVB interface in multi card systems. - Watchdog function that makes VDR exit in case the main program loop does not respond within a certain time. Have fun! Klaus Schmidinger -- _______________________________________________________________ Klaus Schmidinger Phone: +49-8635-6989-10 CadSoft Computer GmbH Fax: +49-8635-6989-40 Hofmark 2 Email: kls@cadsoft.de D-84568 Pleiskirchen, Germany URL: www.cadsoft.de _______________________________________________________________ --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From mocm@convergence.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 12:17:09 +0100 (CET) From: Marcus O.C. Metzler To: Philipp Zabel Cc: dvb-liste Subject: [linux-dvb] mpeg1 playback Philipp Zabel writes: > Hi! > > I want to play back some old mpeg1 files (vcd format) using > the DVB-s' hardware decoder (ntuxplayer). > In some of them there were audio glitches and audio & video > weren't in sync (audio about 1/3 sec too early) - these mpegs > played back fine with sw decoders like windows media player > or mtvp (mpegtv). What could be the reason for these problems? > Bad multiplexing? Driver promlems? Anything else? > And what could I do against this? Is there a software demuxer > that can feed the DVB with the video and my soundcard with the > audio signal (and keep them in sync)? Or is anybody working on > anything like this? > Or do I have to demux/remultiplex the streams? Which tools > could or should I use to do this? Or what could I do else? > Any ideas are welcome! :-) > Are you using the latest version of the driver? We used to have some problems with mpeg1 sync in the past, but hoped that we got rid of them. If you are using VCD files you have to make sure that you used a program like vcdrip to get the mpeg file from the vcd, otherwise you won't get correct playback. You can also try remuxing with the mplex program set to MPEG1, but that shouldn't be necessary. Marcus --------------------------------------------------------------------- Dr. Marcus Metzler mocm@netcologne.de http://www.metzlerbros.de mocm@convergence.de http://www.convergence.de Convergence Integrated Media GmbH Rosenthaler Str. 51 D-10178 Berlin --------------------------------------------------------------------- --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From Webmaster@internettest.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 13:41:38 +0100 From: Matthias Queisler To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Case, CI and CAM I just thought about buying a CI and CAM to watch PW. I contacted some shops and distributors but everywhere I aksed for a CAM it costs about 700,- DM. Where you guys buy your CI and CAM ?? And now on to the Case. I have found a quiet nice case at http://www.pc-gehaeuse.com/html/cdt-001/cdt-001.html but there's this damn floppy slot. There I want to insert this LC-Display http://katalog.reichelt.de/Text.html?LCD_64240A_LED+A52+0+50+621587585_97923 5222-134743525+ do you ppl think it's possible to cut the form out of it? that's it cu all --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From mocm@convergence.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 23:28:50 +0100 (CET) From: Marcus O.C. Metzler To: Peter Funk Cc: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] tuxview in DVB 0.8.2 doesn't compile: xv.h is missing Peter Funk writes: > Hi, > > The application tuxview from DVB 0.8.2 doesn't compile on my system, because > the file DVB/apps/tuxzap has an include directive for a file xv.h, which > is missing from the tar file. It is in the latest cvs version, but you don't need xv.h. I was getting to implementing xv support, when something came up and I couldn't finish it. So either take out all references to xv.h, or get the latest cvs version. I hope I will get to xv soon, so that hardware scaling will be possible on graphics cards that support it. Marcus --------------------------------------------------------------------- Dr. Marcus Metzler mocm@netcologne.de http://www.metzlerbros.de mocm@convergence.de http://www.convergence.de Convergence Integrated Media GmbH Rosenthaler Str. 51 D-10178 Berlin --------------------------------------------------------------------- --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From mocm@convergence.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 23:33:42 +0100 (CET) From: Marcus O.C. Metzler To: Matthias Queisler Cc: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] AW:Playback MP3 over the DVB-S Device ? Matthias Queisler writes: > I am on it to program MP3 and LCD support for VDR. So you don't need an > extra program or a monitor or TV. But the program will use a sound card. For > my system I am using a micro ATX board from elite group with on board 10/100 > Mbit Ethernet card and Sound Card. > And well I think it's possible to convert it into MPEG stream so the DVB can > play it but there is no supoprt at the moment. > If you can generate a PCM output and use the PES standard for PCM (as found on some/many music video DVDs) packages you can play them on the DVB card. It should be possible to get e.g. mpg123 to do that. You can do the same for AC3. Use ac3dec to get PCM and from that generate PCM PES and pipe it into the card. Marcus --------------------------------------------------------------------- Dr. Marcus Metzler mocm@netcologne.de http://www.metzlerbros.de mocm@convergence.de http://www.convergence.de Convergence Integrated Media GmbH Rosenthaler Str. 51 D-10178 Berlin --------------------------------------------------------------------- --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From pf@artcom-gmbh.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 22:50:37 +0100 (MET) From: Peter Funk To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] tuxview in DVB 0.8.2 doesn't compile: xv.h is missing Hi, The application tuxview from DVB 0.8.2 doesn't compile on my system, because the file DVB/apps/tuxzap has an include directive for a file xv.h, which is missing from the tar file. Regards, Peter -- Peter Funk, Oldenburger Str.86, D-27777 Ganderkesee, Germany, Fax:+49 4222950260 office: +49 421 20419-0 (ArtCom GmbH, Grazer Str.8, D-28359 Bremen) --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From Webmaster@internettest.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 22:22:34 +0100 From: Matthias Queisler To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] AW:Playback MP3 over the DVB-S Device ? I am on it to program MP3 and LCD support for VDR. So you don't need an extra program or a monitor or TV. But the program will use a sound card. For my system I am using a micro ATX board from elite group with on board 10/100 Mbit Ethernet card and Sound Card. And well I think it's possible to convert it into MPEG stream so the DVB can play it but there is no supoprt at the moment. -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org [mailto:linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org]Im Auftrag von Axel Gruber Gesendet: Sonntag, 25. Februar 2001 22:02 An: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Betreff: [linux-dvb] Playback MP3 over the DVB-S Device ? Hello to everybody... I think about to use my LINUX-TV-SERVER to play MP3 in the living-room. Because i don´t have a free PCI-Slot - is it possible to use the DVB-S Device for Playback the AUDIO (i don´t think that it´s possible that the CARD can decode MP3 - but if the CPU decode it to a usual WAVE or MPEG2 Stream the CARD should be able to plaback it. The other Idea ist to use a Sound-CARD - but then i have to make a PCI Slot free... Does anyone know a MPEG3 Software Frontend for LINUX to use it at a Graphic-CARD with TV-OUT to controll it ? --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From matthias@pentax.boerde.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 18:29:38 +0100 (MET) From: Matthias Weingart To: Klaus Schmidinger Cc: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: DVD drive recommendations? Hi Klaus, take a look in the current ct magazine 5 (page 154). DVD-drives that are patchable (to remove countrycode) are marked :-) Firmware patches for DVD-drives are available from www.firmware.com.bi Funny and simple: The Asus drive DVD-E612 has a jumper for this. I would prefer the LG DRD-8120B - it is fast, quiet, able to read all sorts of media and patchable. Anybody here that have experiences with that drive in linux? Matthias On Sun, 25 Feb 2001, Klaus Schmidinger wrote: > I am thinking about buying a DVD drive for my VDR computer. > > Can anybody recommend a certain brand/model? > > Klaus --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From matthias@pentax.boerde.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 17:45:06 +0100 (MET) From: Matthias Weingart To: Klaus Schmidinger Cc: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: Video Disk Recorder version 0.71 On Sun, 25 Feb 2001, Klaus Schmidinger wrote: > > A few days ago I asked a question regarding the number of DVB cards > > necessary to support time-shifting. I didn't get an answer yet. I have > > read the /dev/video API and thought it should be possible to use only > > one card and a faster CPU to do concurrent reading and writing to the > > card. I am asking this because I probably build an ultra compact system > > for the living room and need to know how many PCI-slots the system has > > to support. > > With the Siemens-DVB-Card you need two cards to do this. > This is because of the limited performance of the card itself. > A faster CPU won't help. Are there DVB-cards available that allow concurrent reading / writing? (maybe in the near future?) Matthias --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From rjkm@convergence.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 15:31:36 +0100 (CET) From: Ralph Metzler To: Matthias Schniedermeyer Cc: Klaus Schmidinger , linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: DVD drive recommendations? Matthias Schniedermeyer writes: > > I am thinking about buying a DVD drive for my VDR computer. It > should have the following characteristics: > > > - have an IDE interface > > Pioneer (A/1)0 > > > - work with Linux (well, of course) > > Don't any drive that does NOT work. > > > - be code free (or at least can be made to play codes 1+2) > > Then you have to buy a used one. Since every drive sold after 01.01.2000 > HAS to be RPC Phase 2. Which means "locked" to certain RC. > > I would buy more than one drive. (Currently i have 3 DVD-drives. One of > the advantages of SCSI) You don't need an old drive. You can get patches for many drives which remove this region selection bug. I am using a patched Pioneer 105. Ralph --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From clemens@root.at Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 14:53:16 +0100 From: Clemens Kirchgatterer To: Klaus Schmidinger Cc: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: DVD drive recommendations? Klaus Schmidinger wrote: > > I am thinking about buying a DVD drive for my VDR computer. > > It should have the following characteristics: > > - have an IDE interface (since I don't have a free slot for an SCSI controller) > - work with Linux (well, of course) > - be code free (or at least can be made to play codes 1+2) > - be available with a black front panel (not absolutely necessary, > but would be nice) > > Can anybody recommend a certain brand/model? i only wanted to tell ya, that i have major problems to get my new LiteOn Ltd-122 to work with the css-auth tools. i think that is not what anybody wants ... :-( regards ... clemens --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From ms@citd.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 14:37:32 +0100 From: Matthias Schniedermeyer To: Klaus Schmidinger Cc: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: DVD drive recommendations? > I am thinking about buying a DVD drive for my VDR computer. It should have the following characteristics: > - have an IDE interface Pioneer (A/1)0 > - work with Linux (well, of course) Don't any drive that does NOT work. > - be code free (or at least can be made to play codes 1+2) Then you have to buy a used one. Since every drive sold after 01.01.2000 HAS to be RPC Phase 2. Which means "locked" to certain RC. I would buy more than one drive. (Currently i have 3 DVD-drives. One of the advantages of SCSI) > - be available with a black front panel (not absolutely necessary, > but would be nice) Can't say anything about that. > Can anybody recommend a certain brand/model? I can say that you don't need a DVD-Drive for the VDR-Computer itself, if you have a NIC in the Computer. I use (one of the 3) the DVD-Drives in my "Workstation" Bis denn -- Real Programmers consider "what you see is what you get" to be just as bad a concept in Text Editors as it is in women. No, the Real Programmer wants a "you asked for it, you got it" text editor -- complicated, cryptic, powerful, unforgiving, dangerous. --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From axelgruber2@gmx.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 22:02:07 +0100 From: Axel Gruber To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Playback MP3 over the DVB-S Device ? Hello to everybody... I think about to use my LINUX-TV-SERVER to play MP3 in the living-room. Because i don´t have a free PCI-Slot - is it possible to use the DVB-S Device for Playback the AUDIO (i don´t think that it´s possible that the CARD can decode MP3 - but if the CPU decode it to a usual WAVE or MPEG2 Stream the CARD should be able to plaback it. The other Idea ist to use a Sound-CARD - but then i have to make a PCI Slot free... Does anyone know a MPEG3 Software Frontend for LINUX to use it at a Graphic-CARD with TV-OUT to controll it ? --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From marcus@kuba4u.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 18:54:08 GMT From: Marcus Kuba To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: DVD drive recommendations? Am 25.02.01, schrieb Matthias Weingart ... > take a look in the current ct magazine 5 (page 154). DVD-drives that are > patchable (to remove countrycode) are marked :-) Firmware patches for > DVD-drives are available from www.firmware.com.bi Currently, my T-Online (DSL)DNS cannot resolve this address. Since it is only a relocator (I guess), I found the pages at http://perso.club-internet.fr/farzeno/firmware/ > Funny and simple: The Asus drive DVD-E612 has a jumper for this. Lucky me, I still have my good old Pioneer-303-SCSI-DVD-Drive in my Win98-machine, which is RPC1 as long as I leave that jumper plugged in :-) I still would prefer those Pioneers, because of the Slot-In-loading-mechanism, which is just great (and which would it make easier to get a black front). > I would prefer the LG DRD-8120B - it is fast, quiet, able to read all > sorts of media and patchable. And it is relatively cheap. Regarding the current c't-test, I would also prefer that one. Greetings, Marcus --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From Klaus.Schmidinger@cadsoft.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 17:19:17 +0100 From: Klaus Schmidinger To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: Video Disk Recorder version 0.71 Emil Naepflein wrote: > > Hi Klaus, > > > Have fun! > > you have done great work! > > I am relatively new to VDR and haven't a system running yet. But I want > to build one in the near future. > > A few days ago I asked a question regarding the number of DVB cards > necessary to support time-shifting. I didn't get an answer yet. I have > read the /dev/video API and thought it should be possible to use only > one card and a faster CPU to do concurrent reading and writing to the > card. I am asking this because I probably build an ultra compact system > for the living room and need to know how many PCI-slots the system has > to support. With the Siemens-DVB-Card you need two cards to do this. This is because of the limited performance of the card itself. A faster CPU won't help. Klaus -- _______________________________________________________________ Klaus Schmidinger Phone: +49-8635-6989-10 CadSoft Computer GmbH Fax: +49-8635-6989-40 Hofmark 2 Email: kls@cadsoft.de D-84568 Pleiskirchen, Germany URL: www.cadsoft.de _______________________________________________________________ --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From Emil.Naepflein@philosys.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 17:09:58 +0100 From: Emil Naepflein To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: Video Disk Recorder version 0.71 Hi Klaus, > Have fun! you have done great work! I am relatively new to VDR and haven't a system running yet. But I want to build one in the near future. A few days ago I asked a question regarding the number of DVB cards necessary to support time-shifting. I didn't get an answer yet. I have read the /dev/video API and thought it should be possible to use only one card and a faster CPU to do concurrent reading and writing to the card. I am asking this because I probably build an ultra compact system for the living room and need to know how many PCI-slots the system has to support. It would be nice if you or someone else knowing the answer could respond. Emil --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From gfiala@s.netic.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 16:51:33 +0100 From: Guido Fiala To: Linux-DVB Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: AW:Pro-7 and EPG at night ---------- ---------- Subject: Re: [linux-dvb] AW:Pro-7 and EPG at night Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 16:46:56 +0100 From: Guido Fiala To: "Matthias Queisler" I and Klaus already wrote mails to Pro7 without reaction, Kabel1 has the same problem (what wonder ;-) Any idea how we can convince them ? ------------------------------------------------------- --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From Webmaster@internettest.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 16:25:16 +0100 From: Matthias Queisler To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] AW:Pro-7 and EPG at night I noticed the same this night. I watched Heat but Pro 7 told me I am watching Mad Max or something like this. And with totaly wrong time. I think thats just a problem of PRO7 -----Ursprungliche Nachricht----- Von: linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org [mailto:linux-dvb-bounce@linuxtv.org]Im Auftrag von Lars Bensmann Gesendet: Sonntag, 25. Februar 2001 15:54 An: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Betreff: [linux-dvb] Pro-7 and EPG at night Hello, does anybody else have problems with the EPG data from Pro-7? I think they set the wrong date for the shows from 0:00 to 5:00 in the morning. It seems their day starts at 5:00 in the morning, so you don't get the program info for the current night just for tomorrow. Could VDR handle this? I don't know if the correct EPG data for the night is transmitted and VDR just ignores it because it thinks it was in the past. But undur these circumstances it should be possible to set the date back. cu, Lars -- In my opinion MS is a lot better at making money than it is at making good operating systems. (Linus Torvalds, August 1997) --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From lars.bensmann@epost.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 15:53:45 +0100 From: Lars Bensmann To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Pro-7 and EPG at night Hello, does anybody else have problems with the EPG data from Pro-7? I think they set the wrong date for the shows from 0:00 to 5:00 in the morning. It seems their day starts at 5:00 in the morning, so you don't get the program info for the current night just for tomorrow. Could VDR handle this? I don't know if the correct EPG data for the night is transmitted and VDR just ignores it because it thinks it was in the past. But undur these circumstances it should be possible to set the date back. cu, Lars -- In my opinion MS is a lot better at making money than it is at making good operating systems. (Linus Torvalds, August 1997) --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From Klaus.Schmidinger@cadsoft.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 15:55:08 +0100 From: Klaus Schmidinger To: "linux-dvb@linuxtv.org" Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: shutdown Joerg Riechardt wrote: > > Here's a quick solution for the shutdown issue. > > commands.conf: > 23 : shutdown -h 23:00 > 23.5 : shutdown -h 23:30 > 24 : shutdown -h 0:00 > 0.5 : shutdown -h 0:30 > 1 : shutdown -h 1:00 > ........ > > Disadvantage: after starting a shutdown command it's no longer possible > to make an input to vdr. You could avoid this if you use the 'at' command to run a shutdown script at the desired time: commands.conf: 23 : at -f shutdown.sh 23:00 23.5 : at -f shutdown.sh 23:30 24 : at -f shutdown.sh 0:00 0.5 : at -f shutdown.sh 0:30 1 : at -f shutdown.sh 1:00 shutdown.sh: #!/bin/sh shutdown -h now Klaus -- _______________________________________________________________ Klaus Schmidinger Phone: +49-8635-6989-10 CadSoft Computer GmbH Fax: +49-8635-6989-40 Hofmark 2 Email: kls@cadsoft.de D-84568 Pleiskirchen, Germany URL: www.cadsoft.de _______________________________________________________________ --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From J.Riechardt@gmx.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 15:27:25 +0100 From: Joerg Riechardt To: "linux-dvb@linuxtv.org" Subject: [linux-dvb] shutdown Here's a quick solution for the shutdown issue. commands.conf: 23 : shutdown -h 23:00 23.5 : shutdown -h 23:30 24 : shutdown -h 0:00 0.5 : shutdown -h 0:30 1 : shutdown -h 1:00 ........ Disadvantage: after starting a shutdown command it's no longer possible to make an input to vdr. It would be nice, if there were a menu item in which you would just give in the time as four digits, and that would make vdr to shut down at that time. Maybe it's an idea to implement something like that. Jörg --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From count@flatline.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 15:11:44 +0100 From: Andreas 'Count' Kotes To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: DVD drive recommendations? Hi! * Matthias Schniedermeyer [20010225 14:51]: > > I am thinking about buying a DVD drive for my VDR computer. It > > should have the following characteristics: [..] > > - be code free (or at least can be made to play codes 1+2) > > Then you have to buy a used one. Since every drive sold after 01.01.2000 > HAS to be RPC Phase 2. Which means "locked" to certain RC. you might be able to get one in/from switzerland. it's illegal to sell dvd-players with region code there (legally bought DVD-Player + legally bought DVD -> you must not be disallowed to play it), so chances are this counts for DVD drives to. no warranty for my words whatsoever, and I don't know about legal problems which might arise with that, and I am not a lawyer :) Count -- -= Andreas Kotes - mailto:count@flatline.de - Questions? Just ask =- -= Micro$oft has a Year 2000 problem. I am part of it. I use Linux. =- -= Commercial use of my email address NOT allowed. PGP key available. =- --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From marcus@kuba4u.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 13:44:45 GMT From: Marcus Kuba To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: Case, CI and CAM Am 25.02.01, schrieb "Matthias Queisler" ... > I just thought about buying a CI and CAM to watch PW. I contacted some shops > and distributors but everywhere I aksed for a CAM it costs about 700,- DM. The lowest price I found for an IRDETO ALLCAM SE4.7 is DM 419,- directly from the distributor www.mascom.de. The question is only, if and how fast the modules are available. Alternatively you can try to get one at ebay.. if you are lucky, you can get one below DM 500,- (currently I'm watching 4 auctions with current prices between 380 and 410 DM... they all will stop this evening). The CI is sold for DM 149,- at www.pc-werksverkauf.de (Fujitsu-Siemens) in Augsburg. I have ordered 2 of them (you must buy for at least DM 200,- and I am sure I can sell the 2nd at ebay or so...) this friday and have not yet received an answer to my fax. I hope my order will be processed tomorrow. > http://katalog.reichelt.de/Text.html?LCD_64240A_LED+A52+0+50+621587585_979 23 > 5222-134743525+ How do you plan to use this display? As far as I see it's a graphical one.. do you have a driver for it? Greetings, Marcus --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From martin@hammerschmid.com Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 14:23:45 +0100 From: Martin Hammerschmid To: linux-dvb Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: Case, CI and CAM Matthias Queisler wrote: > > but there's this damn floppy slot. There I want to insert this LC-Display > > http://katalog.reichelt.de/Text.html?LCD_64240A_LED+A52+0+50+621587585_97923 > 5222-134743525+ I've already done some support for LCD panels, ( http://home.pages.at/linux/dvb.html ) you need a panel that's supported by LCDproc though. 4x20 characters are recommended, 4x16 should work as well. Martin ========== mailto:martin@hammerschmid.com ========== =RSA-PGP-Key ID:0x81783FE7 DH-PGP-Key ID:0x6B66589A= ==================================================== No warp, Captain. There's cat hair all over the engine! --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From Klaus.Schmidinger@cadsoft.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 13:48:12 +0100 From: Klaus Schmidinger To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] DVD drive recommendations? I am thinking about buying a DVD drive for my VDR computer. It should have the following characteristics: - have an IDE interface (since I don't have a free slot for an SCSI controller) - work with Linux (well, of course) - be code free (or at least can be made to play codes 1+2) - be available with a black front panel (not absolutely necessary, but would be nice) Can anybody recommend a certain brand/model? Klaus -- _______________________________________________________________ Klaus Schmidinger Phone: +49-8635-6989-10 CadSoft Computer GmbH Fax: +49-8635-6989-40 Hofmark 2 Email: kls@cadsoft.de D-84568 Pleiskirchen, Germany URL: www.cadsoft.de _______________________________________________________________ --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From krasi@eweb.bg Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 10:10:33 +0200 (EET) From: Krasi Zlatev To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Sirius 2 and Sky Star Is it possbile to use Sky Star 1 with Sirius 2 not europeonline. Sirius 2 is 4.8 EAST. running dvbd i get in return SYNC = 1 and sometimes SYNC = 0. Looking at www.biscom.net/satinternet/satdata.html It says that Linux drivers do not support 27.195 symbol rate biscom.net are the regional providers of the service. Any advice would be highly appreciated thanks. Krasi Zlatev 032/ 944 138 Network Administration EWeb Enjoy! --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From t.ja@gmx.at Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 08:37:26 +0100 From: Thomas Jagoditsch To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org, Klaus Schmidinger Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: DVD drive recommendations? On 25 Feb 2001, at 13:48, Klaus Schmidinger wrote: > I am thinking about buying a DVD drive for my VDR computer. > > It should have the following characteristics: > > - have an IDE interface (since I don't have a free slot for an SCSI > controller) - work with Linux (well, of course) - be code free (or at > least can be made to play codes 1+2) - be available with a black front > panel (not absolutely necessary, > but would be nice) > > Can anybody recommend a certain brand/model? i bought that pioneer drive, i think its a 114 (drive is at home). after flashing a "nice" firmware it works with dvdplayer / css-tools. be sure to get a rpc1 drive or at least one that is successfully reflashed by somebody you know. wbr.tja... thomas jagoditsch email:tja@tja.org/tel:+436645446512 --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From Ratschkowski@euras.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 18:20:52 +0100 From: Ratschkowski Tobias To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Using TV-Out Grafix Cards with VDR ? Hello, does you all use the FBAS-Output on the DVB-Card for video playback ? i asking myself, if is possible to get the pictue from a tv-Out Card and using the higher quality s-video signal. Is that possible ? Thanks a lot! Cheers! tobias --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From Stefan.Hagendorn@lindy.cc Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 19:06:15 +0100 From: Stefan.Hagendorn@lindy.cc To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Aufter DVDPlayer the sound of DVB is gone ?! Hi all, the digital sound card works. But I still don't get AC3 stream from it ... Anyway the first Problem I encountered is: After playing a VOB file (Trailer) the normal DVB-Video is restored but there is no sound anymore. After reloading the DVB Driver everything works again .... Maybe the Problem is the not complete Trailer : unimatrix:~ # dvdplayer -s0 -a0 -f /home/hagie/VTS_09_1.VOB subtitles 0 ac3 soundtrack 0 opening /dev/video input file: /home/hagie/VTS_09_1.VOB can't open /home/hagie/VTS_09_2.VOB Thanks Stefan --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From Webmaster@internettest.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 19:29:24 +0100 From: Matthias Queisler To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Status Just a little feature that I am missing. What about a menu that displays the space left on the disk? --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From Stefan.Hagendorn@lindy.cc Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 19:16:28 +0100 From: Stefan.Hagendorn@lindy.cc To: Stefan.Hagendorn@lindy.cc Cc: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: Aufter DVDPlayer the sound of DVB is gone ?! it looks like the Problem is the partly VOB File ... after restart the play process and break (ctrl-c) the sound is back .... Sorry !! Anyway Matjaz .. how did you replay AC3 streams ... I've try with AC3Spdif | aplay but without success ... any recomendations ??? Thanks in advance Stefan Stefan.Hagendorn@l indy.cc An: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Gesendet von: Kopie: linux-dvb-bounce@l Thema: [linux-dvb] Aufter DVDPlayer the sound of DVB is gone ?! inuxtv.org 26.02.2001 19:06 Hi all, the digital sound card works. But I still don't get AC3 stream from it ... Anyway the first Problem I encountered is: After playing a VOB file (Trailer) the normal DVB-Video is restored but there is no sound anymore. After reloading the DVB Driver everything works again .... Maybe the Problem is the not complete Trailer : unimatrix:~ # dvdplayer -s0 -a0 -f /home/hagie/VTS_09_1.VOB subtitles 0 ac3 soundtrack 0 opening /dev/video input file: /home/hagie/VTS_09_1.VOB can't open /home/hagie/VTS_09_2.VOB Thanks Stefan --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From Klaus.Schmidinger@cadsoft.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 19:51:11 +0100 From: Klaus Schmidinger To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: Status Matthias Queisler wrote: > > Just a little feature that I am missing. What about a menu that displays the > space left on the disk? I assume you are referring to VDR? You can put the following line into 'commands.conf' to get that: Disk space: df -h | grep '/video' | awk '{ print 100 - $5 "% free"; }' Klaus -- _______________________________________________________________ Klaus Schmidinger Phone: +49-8635-6989-10 CadSoft Computer GmbH Fax: +49-8635-6989-40 Hofmark 2 Email: kls@cadsoft.de D-84568 Pleiskirchen, Germany URL: www.cadsoft.de _______________________________________________________________ --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From gfiala@s.netic.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 20:49:48 +0100 From: Guido Fiala To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: Status Klaus Schmidinger wrote: >Matthias Queisler wrote: >> Just a little feature that I am missing. What about a menu that displays >> the space left on the disk? > >I assume you are referring to VDR? > >You can put the following line into 'commands.conf' to get that: > >Disk space: df -h | grep '/video' | awk '{ print 100 - $5 "% free"; }' Another idea is to display it in minutes, with the following quite long commandline (it assumes 30000kB/minute) echo "There are";expr $(df /video|grep dev|awk '{printf "%d",$4/30000,stdout;}') + $(df /video1|grep dev|awk '{printf "%d",$4/30000,stdout;}'); + ...add more (different) mount-points here echo "minutes free."; With only one directory it's just: echo "There are";expr $(df /video|grep dev|awk '{printf "%d",$4/30000,stdout;}');echo "minutes free."; --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From bocekf@iol.cz Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 20:53:13 +0100 From: Frantisek Bocek To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: Using TV-Out Grafix Cards with VDR ? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ratschkowski Tobias" To: Sent: Monday, February 26, 2001 6:20 PM Subject: [linux-dvb] Using TV-Out Grafix Cards with VDR ? > Hello, > > does you all use the FBAS-Output on the DVB-Card for video playback ? > i asking myself, if is possible to get the pictue from a tv-Out Card > and using the higher quality s-video signal. > > Is that possible ? > Hi, There are RGB/SVIDEO signals on the internal connector of the DVB card. It can be connected to a TV set using a proper cable (scart). Rgds Frantisek --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From axelgruber2@gmx.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 21:15:01 +0100 From: Axel Gruber To: Webmaster@internettest.de Cc: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: Status > Just a little feature that I am missing. What about a menu that displays > the > space left on the disk? You can use the "command" function of the VDR to start the command "df" - the output displayed at the OSD of the VDR is wath you want ! --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From ms@citd.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 21:20:53 +0100 (MET) From: Matthias Schniedermeyer To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Master-Timer 0.0.4 #include This Version has only a "Minimal" change. - Removed the need for the "channels.conf". Now the Channel- list will be read with "LSTC" via SVDR This fixes the ":" Section-Marker problem as a "sideeffect". :-) Bis denn -- Real Programmers consider "what you see is what you get" to be just as bad a concept in Text Editors as it is in women. No, the Real Programmer wants a "you asked for it, you got it" text editor -- complicated, cryptic, powerful, unforgiving, dangerous. --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From matjaz.thaler@guest.arnes.si Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 22:27:28 +0100 From: Matjaz Thaler To: Stefan.Hagendorn@lindy.cc Cc: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: Aufter DVDPlayer the sound of DVB is gone ?! [ The following text is in the "iso-8859-2" character set. ] [ Your display is set for the "ISO-8859-1" character set. ] [ Some characters may be displayed incorrectly. ] Stefan.Hagendorn@lindy.cc wrote: > Anyway Matjaz .. how did you replay AC3 streams ... I've try with AC3Spdif > | aplay but without success ... any recomendations ??? I've tested it with ac3dec (dvdplayer -o ac3dec ...). It should also work with ac3play or ac3spdif refer to the message: http://www.linuxtv.org/mailinglists/linux-dvb/msg02184.html Matjaz --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From Klaus.Schmidinger@cadsoft.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 23:20:42 +0100 From: Klaus Schmidinger To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: DVD drive recommendations? Matthias Weingart wrote: > > Hi Klaus, > > take a look in the current ct magazine 5 (page 154). DVD-drives that are > patchable (to remove countrycode) are marked :-) Firmware patches for > DVD-drives are available from www.firmware.com.bi > Funny and simple: The Asus drive DVD-E612 has a jumper for this. > I would prefer the LG DRD-8120B - it is fast, quiet, able to read all > sorts of media and patchable. Anybody here that have experiences with that > drive in linux? > > Matthias Thanks to all who have responded to my inquiry. According to the c't 5/2001 test it would seem that the DRD-8120B would actually be the best choice. The only drawback at the moment appears to be that the drive can't be made permanently "code-free", but can only be "reset" after the allowed number of code changes have been done. There is a Windoze program available at http://members.nbci.com/_XMCM/zozo00/8120b.htm which does that, but that would mean I would have to take the drive out of my VDR computer and temporarily attach it to a Windoze machine just in order to reset it... :-( Does anybody know of a Linux utility that does the same thing? In that case it wouldn't matter that the drive couldn't be made permanently code-free, since I could just call the utility whenever necessary. Has anybody actually got that drive and done the patch? Klaus -- _______________________________________________________________ Klaus Schmidinger Phone: +49-8635-6989-10 CadSoft Computer GmbH Fax: +49-8635-6989-40 Hofmark 2 Email: kls@cadsoft.de D-84568 Pleiskirchen, Germany URL: www.cadsoft.de _______________________________________________________________ --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From gobbers@octalis.com Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 11:15:28 +0100 From: Jean-François GOBBERS To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] ARM or what ? Hi, I would like to get some explanations about the code loaded into the ARM on Siemens-Fujitsu DVB-S cards. Basically, while experimenting with such a card, I observed the following results : when feeding the card with a TS containing only 1 ES, which is of stream_id 0xBF (private_stream_2), the demultiplexer seems to get confused when the payload of this ES is another TS (i.e. when I encapsulate a TS into an ES in another TS using the Asynchronous Data Stream profile). Graphically, what I'm doing is : -------------------------- -------------------------- |Audio stream | | | | | | PID 17 | | payload | | | |-------------| | of | Async Data | | |Video stream | inner-TS | ----> | Stream | | | PID 18 | | | PID 33 | outer-TS | |-------------| | | | | |PAT, PMT, ...| | | | | -------------------------- |-------------| | |PAT, PMT, ...| | -------------------------- When setting up a PES filter on PID 33 and feeding the `outer-TS' into the card, I get a mix-up of TS packets, some of them are the ones corresponding to the data stream, but others appear magically, whose payload is coming from the video stream in the inner-TS; additionally, adaptation fields (containing only stuffing bytes) appear on PID 33 (in the async data stream), altough none were inserted when generating this outer-TS... Any help welcome! JF PS : driver version is 0.8 & 0.8.1 (same results), and the `dvb' module is insmoded with `outstream=3 napi=1 init_chan=1' (). PS2 : I suspect a problem during synchronization on 0x47 chars... (lots of them in the __payload__ of the outer-TS, all coming from the inner-TS!) --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From zagnimp@aom.bt.co.uk Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 11:59:01 +0000 From: Matt Cc: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] My Sky - broadband ? Hi, Does anyone have any information on MySky ? Sky will be offering Broadband internet access by hooking up a feed from (again) the quad LNB and hooking into the back of your computer (builtin or via a PCI expansion card). Downloads will be at 55Mbps and you can either use ADSL, ISDN or PSTN for upload link. Sounds like EON on a bigger scale but with a potential of 5 Mil users in the UK. Regards Matt --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From Margit.Fiegert@t-online.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 12:13:20 +0100 From: Margit Fiegert To: linux-dvb Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: Using TV-Out Grafix Cards with VDR ? Ratschkowski Tobias schrieb: > Hello, > > does you all use the FBAS-Output on the DVB-Card for video playback ? > i asking myself, if is possible to get the pictue from a tv-Out Card > and using the higher quality s-video signal. My personal experience: I had a look on a lot of tv-out cards on a fair last year, and i had a ATI card from a friend for some days. I decided against all that because the picture quality was unacceptable. Even coming via S-VHS connector it was much worse than the FBAS-output of DVB-s!!! Michael --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From nils_heidorn@gmx.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 12:49:43 +0100 From: Nils Heidorn To: linux-dvb Subject: [linux-dvb] some newbie questions concerning VDR 0.71 & DVB 0.82 Hello ! I got some questions, that might be asked 1000 times, so feel free to detect me to a worthy FAQ that i haven't found so far :-) I am using 2.2.16 kernel with 0.82 driver and 0.71 VDR using lirc 0.61. (1) in the new 0.71 the "Red" and "Green" keys are not showing EPG info for the current channel anymore, am i missing something or is this wanted ?? (2) could one kind soul give me a script to load the dvb drivers ? I still use "make insmod" which seems clumsy to me.But stupidly i cannot get to work my own script ( simply derived from the output of "make insmod" as it crashes the whole system although i cannot see a difference between my script and what "make insmod" does ?!?! This is my current *not working* script ... ---------------------------------- insmod dvbdev.o insmod demux.o insmod dmx.o insmod video.o insmod audio.o insmod sec.o insmod frontend.o insmod ca.o sync ( \ insmod i2c-core.o; \ insmod videodev.o; \ insmod saa7146_core.o mode=0; \ insmod saa7146_v4l.o; \ insmod VES1893.o; \ insmod VES1820.o; \ insmod dmxdev.o; \ insmod dvb_demux.o; \ insmod dvb.o init_chan=2; \ insmod tuner.o; \ ifconfig dvb0 192.168.4.1; \ ) sync ---------------------------------- This crashes the system with funky colors/patterns on the TV Screen, freezing, while a "make insmod" works ... (3) As i just jumped into Linux again, after 10 years of not Unixing ( last experience: machOS on NeXTStaion ) i have problems locating a proper startup script, where to initialize lirc, DVB driver and start the VDR demonized, could you hint me to something ?? (4) Currently i run a simple system with one DVB-s Card, connected to 2 CAM's ( SEKA & IRDETO ). If i add more DVB-s cards, will they be able to use the existing CAM's for recording PAY-TV broadcasts or will each added DVB-s Card need its own set of CI-Module & CAM's ??? (5) I have a strange Problem with my CAM's ... whenever i leave the System on prolonged ( like 24 hours ) it happens quite often that the System doesn't decrypt anymore -> Pay-TV channels leave me with black screen ... I have to reinsert the CAM Modules to make it work again, and the CAM Modules are not only slightly hotter "hand-temperature"... anyone experiencing this too ?? Any solutions/workarounds ??? Would a CI-Reset ( which is not implemented in VDR right now ) help ??? (6) before upgrading to 2.4.x kernel: does DVB 0.82 & VDR 0.71 compile & work under 2.4.x ??? Thank you so much, i hope i didn't ask "ohh those annoying newbie questions" over and over :-) Nils Heidorn --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From dvb@wolfsoft.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 13:29:02 +0100 From: Klaus Wolf Reply-To: suse@wolfsoft.de To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] dvb-s card resets i have installed: -suse 7.1 (Kernel 2.2.18) -lirc-0.6.3pre5 -2xHaupauge DVB-s -Cam Modul -Irdedo with Premiere Card updated to: -dvb 0.8.2 -vdr 0.7.1 I start vdr and the dvb-s cards resets and thats all. If i use 1xdvb-s all works great. Can anybody give me some hints. Do I need some start tags for vdr ??? thanks klaus --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From rjkm@convergence.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 13:38:55 +0100 (CET) From: Ralph Metzler To: Jean-François GOBBERS Cc: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] ARM or what ? =?iso-8859-1?Q?Jean=2DFran=E7ois?= GOBBERS writes: > I would like to get some explanations about the code loaded into the ARM > on Siemens-Fujitsu DVB-S cards. > > Basically, while experimenting with such a card, I observed the > following results : when feeding the card with a TS containing only 1 > ES, which is of stream_id 0xBF (private_stream_2), the demultiplexer > seems to get confused when the payload of this ES is another TS (i.e. > when I encapsulate a TS into an ES in another TS using the Asynchronous > Data Stream profile). Graphically, what I'm doing is : > > -------------------------- -------------------------- > |Audio stream | | | | | > | PID 17 | | payload | | | > |-------------| | of | Async Data | | > |Video stream | inner-TS | ----> | Stream | | > | PID 18 | | | PID 33 | outer-TS | > |-------------| | | | | > |PAT, PMT, ...| | | | | > -------------------------- |-------------| | > |PAT, PMT, ...| | > -------------------------- > > When setting up a PES filter on PID 33 and feeding the `outer-TS' into > the card, I get a mix-up of TS packets, some of them are the ones > corresponding to the data stream, but others appear magically, whose > payload is coming from the video stream in the inner-TS; additionally, > adaptation fields (containing only stuffing bytes) appear on PID 33 (in > the async data stream), altough none were inserted when generating this > outer-TS... > > JF > > > PS : driver version is 0.8 & 0.8.1 (same results), and the `dvb' module > is insmoded with `outstream=3 napi=1 init_chan=1' (). > PS2 : I suspect a problem during synchronization on 0x47 chars... (lots > of them in the __payload__ of the outer-TS, all coming from the > inner-TS!) > Well, I explained many times before what the Siemens card can and cannot do and what we had to do in software, etc. The card cannot deliver transport streams. Any TS the drivers delivers is simulated/recontructed from the PES filters provided in the ARM firmware. I guess you can get the converters to brake with the kind of exotic data you are sending. If complete documentation of the hardware were available one could probably get the card to do some more things (not to mention a Linux port). A disassembly of the firmware ROM (not the "firmware"=ARM application which gets loaded on the card) is very revealing and interesting in this regard but hard to understand without complete register description. Ralph --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From schoeller@gmx.at Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 13:38:53 +0100 From: Johannes Schoeller To: "Nils Heidorn . linux-dvb" Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: some newbie questions concerning VDR 0.71 & DVB 0.82 > I am using 2.2.16 kernel with 0.82 driver and 0.71 VDR using lirc 0.61. i.m using 2.2.18, dvb 0.82, vdr 0.71, lird 0.63pre4 > (2) could one kind soul give me a script to load the dvb drivers ? I still > use "make insmod" which seems clumsy to me.But stupidly i cannot get to work > my own script ( simply derived from the output of "make insmod" as it > crashes the whole system although i cannot see a difference between my > script and what "make insmod" does ?!?! > (3) As i just jumped into Linux again, after 10 years of not Unixing ( last > experience: machOS on NeXTStaion ) i have problems locating a proper startup > script, where to initialize lirc, DVB driver and start the VDR demonized, > could you hint me to something ?? i solved it that way: wrote 3 files in /etc/rc.d/init.d names vdrdriver, vdr, and lirc, which i start at startup (init 3). so i can easily start and stop parts of the system. > (4) Currently i run a simple system with one DVB-s Card, connected to 2 > CAM's ( SEKA & IRDETO ). > If i add more DVB-s cards, will they be able to use the existing CAM's for > recording PAY-TV broadcasts or will each added DVB-s Card need its own set > of CI-Module & CAM's ??? channels.conf tells vdr which card to use to decode a which channel. so you can watch one free2air program and record an encrypted one. vdr knows which card to use to decode the program. > (5) I have a strange Problem with my CAM's ... whenever i leave the System > on prolonged ( like 24 hours ) it happens quite often that the System > doesn't decrypt anymore -> Pay-TV channels leave me with black screen ... I > have to reinsert the CAM Modules to make it work again, and the CAM Modules > are not only slightly hotter "hand-temperature"... anyone experiencing this > too ?? Any solutions/workarounds ??? Would a CI-Reset ( which is not > implemented in VDR right now ) help ??? same with me. i hate that. unfortunately there is no way to "reset" the cams. i.d love to have that. irdeto runs perfectly, but seca 1.03 hangs sometimes. i had the best result (that means no "outcommand errors") when i insert both cams at the same time, and when the OSD is not used. > (6) before upgrading to 2.4.x kernel: does DVB 0.82 & VDR 0.71 compile & > work under 2.4.x ??? i tried it last weekend, but couldn.t manage to compile the latest DVB driver with kernel 2.4.1. i could do this about 2 weeks before without prolems. so i guess the problem is myself. ;) CAUTÌON: you MUST upgrade lirc! you need a newer version for kernel >=2.2.18 > Thank you so much, i hope i didn't ask "ohh those annoying newbie questions" > over and over :-) you are not alone.... :) regards Johannes Schoeller --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From greg@ulima.unil.ch Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 13:57:01 +0100 From: Gregoire Favre Cc: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: some newbie questions concerning VDR 0.71 & DVB 0.82 Johannes Schoeller wrote: > same with me. i hate that. unfortunately there is no way to "reset" the cams. > i.d love to have that. irdeto runs perfectly, but seca 1.03 hangs sometimes. > i had the best result (that means no "outcommand errors") when i insert both > cams at the same time, and when the OSD is not used. Could I ask if you are speaking of the whole CAM that you have to put off from the CI, or just the card in the CAM? Thanks you, Greg ________________________________________________________________ http://ulima.unil.ch/greg ICQ:16624071 mailto:greg@ulima.unil.ch --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From Klaus.Schmidinger@cadsoft.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 13:48:43 +0100 From: Klaus Schmidinger To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: dvb-s card resets Klaus Wolf wrote: > > i have installed: > > -suse 7.1 (Kernel 2.2.18) > -lirc-0.6.3pre5 > -2xHaupauge DVB-s > -Cam Modul > -Irdedo with Premiere Card > > updated to: > > -dvb 0.8.2 > -vdr 0.7.1 > > I start vdr and the dvb-s cards resets and thats all. > If i use 1xdvb-s all works great. > > Can anybody give me some hints. > Do I need some start tags for vdr ??? What exactly do you mean with "the dvb-s cards resets"? Are there any error messages in the log file (/var/log/messages) or on stdout? Klaus -- _______________________________________________________________ Klaus Schmidinger Phone: +49-8635-6989-10 CadSoft Computer GmbH Fax: +49-8635-6989-40 Hofmark 2 Email: kls@cadsoft.de D-84568 Pleiskirchen, Germany URL: www.cadsoft.de _______________________________________________________________ --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From Klaus.Schmidinger@cadsoft.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 13:55:14 +0100 From: Klaus Schmidinger To: linux-dvb Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: some newbie questions concerning VDR 0.71 & DVB 0.82 Nils Heidorn wrote: > > ... > (1) in the new 0.71 the "Red" and "Green" keys are not showing EPG info for > the current channel anymore, am i missing something or is this wanted ?? This information (and more) can now be retrieved via "Menu/Schedule". > ... > (4) Currently i run a simple system with one DVB-s Card, connected to 2 > CAM's ( SEKA & IRDETO ). > If i add more DVB-s cards, will they be able to use the existing CAM's for > recording PAY-TV broadcasts or will each added DVB-s Card need its own set > of CI-Module & CAM's ??? VDR selects the appropriate card when recording an encrypted channel. So you need only one card with a CAM (unless you want to record more than one encrypted channel at the same time). > (5) I have a strange Problem with my CAM's ... whenever i leave the System > on prolonged ( like 24 hours ) it happens quite often that the System > doesn't decrypt anymore -> Pay-TV channels leave me with black screen ... I > have to reinsert the CAM Modules to make it work again, and the CAM Modules > are not only slightly hotter "hand-temperature"... anyone experiencing this > too ?? Any solutions/workarounds ??? Would a CI-Reset ( which is not > implemented in VDR right now ) help ??? AFAIK there is no CI-Reset in the driver yet. Once it's available, VDR can call it. Klaus -- _______________________________________________________________ Klaus Schmidinger Phone: +49-8635-6989-10 CadSoft Computer GmbH Fax: +49-8635-6989-40 Hofmark 2 Email: kls@cadsoft.de D-84568 Pleiskirchen, Germany URL: www.cadsoft.de _______________________________________________________________ --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From Carsten.Koch@icem.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:12 2001 Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 14:05:36 +0100 From: Carsten Koch Cc: linux-dvb Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: some newbie questions concerning VDR 0.71 & DVB 0.82 Nils Heidorn wrote: .... > (1) in the new 0.71 the "Red" and "Green" keys are not showing EPG info for > the current channel anymore, am i missing something or is this wanted ?? I believe that this function existed in a previous version, but according to the VDR 0.71 MANUAL, no color button has a function in "normal" mode. I think it would be a good idea to have a consistent way to get a "Summary" info in all applicable modes. What I mean is: we should define ONE key for that. Pressing that same key in "Normal" mode gives us the EPG summary of the program currently being watched, in "Timer" mode it displays the summary entry for the current timer, in "Recordings" mode it displays the summary entry for the current recording. In "Replay" mode it displays the summary entry for the recording being replayed. What do people think about that idea? What would be a suitable key? We already use "Blue" for that in "Recordings" mode. Maybe we should put this function on "Blue" also in the other modes? For "Normal", there would be no collision. For "Replay", we could move the "Stop" function to "Red". Any ideas about "Timer"? If everyone agrees, I would volunteer to implement that mod. > (2) could one kind soul give me a script to load the dvb drivers ? I still > use "make insmod" which seems clumsy to me.But stupidly i cannot get to work > my own script ( simply derived from the output of "make insmod" as it > crashes the whole system although i cannot see a difference between my > script and what "make insmod" does ?!?! Neither can I. Why are you not just using "make insmod"? Are you getting an error message in the shell window or in /var/log/messages? > (3) As i just jumped into Linux again, after 10 years of not Unixing ( last > experience: machOS on NeXTStaion ) i have problems locating a proper startup > script, where to initialize lirc, DVB driver and start the VDR demonized, > could you hint me to something ?? I am using the following: #! /bin/sh cd /usr/local/DVB/driver make insmod while(true) do date cd /usr/local/VDR su cko -c "/usr/local/VDR/vdr -v /video -c ." killproc -TERM /usr/local/VDR/vdr cd /usr/local/DVB/driver sleep 10 make reload done This also restarts vdr in case it crashes. I also modified vdr to end itself after it has been idle for an hour, so the driver gets reloaded every now and then. If I do not reload the driver often, it tends to show strange effects, like changing OSD colors or resetting the ARM every few minutes. > (4) Currently i run a simple system with one DVB-s Card, connected to 2 > CAM's ( SEKA & IRDETO ). > If i add more DVB-s cards, will they be able to use the existing CAM's for > recording PAY-TV broadcasts or will each added DVB-s Card need its own set > of CI-Module & CAM's ??? VDR has a "transfer mode" where you can use an encrypted program on one card using the CAM connected to the other card. Note that this occupies both DVB cards. > (5) I have a strange Problem with my CAM's ... whenever i leave the System > on prolonged ( like 24 hours ) it happens quite often that the System > doesn't decrypt anymore -> Pay-TV channels leave me with black screen ... I > have to reinsert the CAM Modules to make it work again, and the CAM Modules > are not only slightly hotter "hand-temperature"... anyone experiencing this > too ?? Any solutions/workarounds ??? Would a CI-Reset ( which is not > implemented in VDR right now ) help ??? Reloading the driver often (see above) might help. > (6) before upgrading to 2.4.x kernel: does DVB 0.82 & VDR 0.71 compile & > work under 2.4.x ??? Have not tried that yet. On my VDR PC, I am still using 2.2.16. In a recent message on this list, Ralph has announced, that he will split the driver development into a main branch that will only work under 2.4 and a "maintenance mode" branch that will only receive bug fixes and continue to worrk under 2.2. 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From Klaus.Schmidinger@cadsoft.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:13 2001 Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 14:41:29 +0100 From: Klaus Schmidinger To: linux-dvb Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: some newbie questions concerning VDR 0.71 & DVB 0.82 Carsten Koch wrote: > > Nils Heidorn wrote: > .... > > (1) in the new 0.71 the "Red" and "Green" keys are not showing EPG info for > > the current channel anymore, am i missing something or is this wanted ?? > > I believe that this function existed in a previous version, > but according to the VDR 0.71 MANUAL, no color button has > a function in "normal" mode. > > I think it would be a good idea to have a consistent way > to get a "Summary" info in all applicable modes. > What I mean is: we should define ONE key for that. > Pressing that same key in "Normal" mode gives us the EPG > summary of the program currently being watched, in "Timer" > mode it displays the summary entry for the current timer, > in "Recordings" mode it displays the summary entry for the > current recording. In "Replay" mode it displays the summary > entry for the recording being replayed. > > What do people think about that idea? > > What would be a suitable key? > We already use "Blue" for that in "Recordings" mode. > Maybe we should put this function on "Blue" also in the > other modes? > For "Normal", there would be no collision. > For "Replay", we could move the "Stop" function to "Red". > Any ideas about "Timer"? > > If everyone agrees, I would volunteer to implement that mod. Assigning functions to "basic" buttons (especially if they already have a given meaning) should be considered extremely carefully. For instance, another user suggested that the Red and Blue buttons in replay mode should do a skip +/-10minutes. Since many of the colored keys already have meanings in the various modes, I don't think it's a good idea to "fiddle in" a a particular function that is also available through the normal menu. The basic VDR functionality should be accessible with a minimum set of keys, so anything that is also available through the menu should not be assigned to the "basic" keys. I haven't found a "good" solution yet how to let the user define any number of additional keys, but I'd say a functionality like the one described above should go onto an "extra" key. Just my thoughts... Of course everybody can assign their keys the way they like...;-) Klaus -- _______________________________________________________________ Klaus Schmidinger Phone: +49-8635-6989-10 CadSoft Computer GmbH Fax: +49-8635-6989-40 Hofmark 2 Email: kls@cadsoft.de D-84568 Pleiskirchen, Germany URL: www.cadsoft.de _______________________________________________________________ --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From dvb@wolfsoft.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:13 2001 Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 15:07:52 +0100 From: Klaus Wolf To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] AW: Re: dvb-s card resets >What exactly do you mean with "the dvb-s cards resets"? >Are there any error messages in the log file (/var/log/messages) >or on stdout? here are the error messages: /var/log/messages commandrequest error dvb: Filter shutdown error:55294 outcommand error 1 dvb: ARM RESET outcommand error 1 dvb: ARM RESET dvb0: no IPv6 router present dvb0: no IPv6 router present dvb: filter shutdown error:65535 vdr[568]: ERROR: /dev/video0: Device or resource busy vdr[568]: ERROR: no video device found, giving up! dvb: filter shutdown error:65535 ---------- Must I change my /video to /video0 ???????? Thanks Klaus --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From dvb@wolfsoft.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:13 2001 Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 15:38:41 +0100 From: Klaus Wolf To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] AW: Re: dvb-s card resets >What exactly do you mean with "the dvb-s cards resets"? >Are there any error messages in the log file (/var/log/messages) >or on stdout? here are the error messages: /var/log/messages commandrequest error dvb: Filter shutdown error:55294 outcommand error 1 dvb: ARM RESET outcommand error 1 dvb: ARM RESET dvb0: no IPv6 router present dvb0: no IPv6 router present dvb: filter shutdown error:65535 vdr[568]: ERROR: /dev/video0: Device or resource busy vdr[568]: ERROR: no video device found, giving up! dvb: filter shutdown error:65535 ---------- Must I change my /video to /video0 ???????? Thanks Klaus --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From Carsten.Koch@icem.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:13 2001 Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 15:32:41 +0100 From: Carsten Koch Cc: linux-dvb Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: some newbie questions concerning VDR 0.71 & DVB 0.82 Klaus Schmidinger wrote: > > Carsten Koch wrote: .... > > I think it would be a good idea to have a consistent way > > to get a "Summary" info in all applicable modes. > > What I mean is: we should define ONE key for that. > > Pressing that same key in "Normal" mode gives us the EPG > > summary of the program currently being watched, in "Timer" > > mode it displays the summary entry for the current timer, > > in "Recordings" mode it displays the summary entry for the > > current recording. In "Replay" mode it displays the summary > > entry for the recording being replayed. .... > I haven't found a "good" solution yet > how to let the user define any number of additional keys, but I'd say > a functionality like the one described above should go onto an "extra" > key. I agree and I will not try to defend the use of "Blue" as a consistent key to get at the various summary displays in the various modes. My point was that a consistent key layout that puts similar functions on the same key in all modes will help the user learn the interface. My Sky Digibox has an "i" key that gives me a program summary in all applicable modes (in the EPG, it gives me the summary for the program I have highlighted, when watching a program it gives me a summary for the program I am watching, etc.). So they do use the extra key that you suggest above. As you do not feel comfortable with using "Blue" for the various summaries in all of the applicable modes, how about implementing an additional "i" key and putting the summaries on that one? That would also free the "Blue" key in the "Recordings" menu and the "OK" key in the EPG menu. Carsten. --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From sbrown@cortland.com Wed Aug 1 13:04:13 2001 Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 09:54:40 -0500 From: Steve Brown To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] TTBudget NAPI restrictions? Is there list of the NAPI subset for the budget card? If not, could one of you experts confirm/expand/correct the following guesses? DVB Video API - ? (probably not) DVB Audio API - ? (probably not) DVB Frontend API - yes (tuxzap tunes and /dev/video delivers the right TS packets) DVB SEC API - ? (probably, but saw restrictions in the driver) DVB Demux API - ? (the driver seems to implement some software filtering, though the card doesn't.) DVB CA API - ? (probably not) Thanks, Steve --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From RBauer@quark.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:13 2001 Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 16:12:04 +0100 From: Ralf Bauer To: 'Matthias Weingart' Cc: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: reduced power consumption, was Re: Re: Minimum sy stem > > or record something. This would lower the standby power > consumption to about > > 1-5 W which is about DM 15,- a year. > > Are you sure? My ATX computer still consumes 15W in the off > state. (Well I measured it again on the weekend, it is 1.1 W. Don't forget, this is the "Wirkleistung", the "Scheinleistung" could be more, but you don't pay for that ;-) If you just use an Ampere meter and calculate the power consumption, you get the "Scheinleistung", also cheap power meters do it like this. More expensive power meters show the correct value for the "Wirkleistung". But you are right, other power supplies could be much worse, I was also astonished about this small power consumption. I guess I was just lucky to pick this case. > If your reduce the clock of power intensive parts (CPU, Chipset, > graphics) and use low power components you can reduce the > overall power > needs to 20-30 Watts or less (I will try it). (A notebook with active > display and active harddisk is running 2 hours from 10,8V, > 4,5Ah batteries > -> 24W!) I think the DVB-S card is a big factor there. Especially the tuner gets very hot and there are also other components on the DVB-S board to supply the LNB with power through the coax cable. I haven't measured it yet, but my guesses are that about 10-15W will be used by each DVB-S card. > - dont overclock your CPU -> "underclock" it, you can reduce the cpu > voltages too (does a 800MHz cpu running at 400MHz?) > - use 66MHz system clock instead of 133MHz > - don't use super power high speed 3D graphics cards (or dont use a > graphics card at all, I think linux can run without graphic, > as far as > your bios can it) I'm using the system without graphic card and it works fine, I just get a couple of beeps when I boot the system. > - use 10MBit instead of 100MBit network cards (my 100MBit > hub consumes > 10 Watts!) > - use all currently supported power saving modes (hard disc standby) > - use hard disc only for playing/recording (and booting) -> whole > root-filesystem in RAM and shut HD down the rest of the day --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From schoeller@gmx.at Wed Aug 1 13:04:13 2001 Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 15:59:57 +0100 From: Johannes Schoeller To: Gregoire Favre Cc: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: some newbie questions concerning VDR 0.71 & DVB 0.82 > > same with me. i hate that. unfortunately there is no way to "reset" the cams. > > i.d love to have that. irdeto runs perfectly, but seca 1.03 hangs sometimes. > > i had the best result (that means no "outcommand errors") when i insert both > > cams at the same time, and when the OSD is not used. > > Could I ask if you are speaking of the whole CAM that you have to put off from the > CI, or just the card in the CAM? i pull the whole CAM/CI. maybe it would be ok to pull the card alone... never tried that. ;) and pulling the cam is something i don.t like very much because i think that the contact suffer. :( regards Johannes Schoeller --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From Klaus.Schmidinger@cadsoft.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:13 2001 Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 16:11:49 +0100 From: Klaus Schmidinger To: linux-dvb Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: some newbie questions concerning VDR 0.71 & DVB 0.82 Carsten Koch wrote: > > Klaus Schmidinger wrote: > > > > Carsten Koch wrote: > .... > > > I think it would be a good idea to have a consistent way > > > to get a "Summary" info in all applicable modes. > > > What I mean is: we should define ONE key for that. > > > Pressing that same key in "Normal" mode gives us the EPG > > > summary of the program currently being watched, in "Timer" > > > mode it displays the summary entry for the current timer, > > > in "Recordings" mode it displays the summary entry for the > > > current recording. In "Replay" mode it displays the summary > > > entry for the recording being replayed. > .... > > I haven't found a "good" solution yet > > how to let the user define any number of additional keys, but I'd say > > a functionality like the one described above should go onto an "extra" > > key. > > I agree and I will not try to defend the use of "Blue" > as a consistent key to get at the various summary displays > in the various modes. > > My point was that a consistent key layout that puts similar > functions on the same key in all modes will help the user > learn the interface. > > My Sky Digibox has an "i" key that gives me a program summary > in all applicable modes (in the EPG, it gives me the summary > for the program I have highlighted, when watching a program > it gives me a summary for the program I am watching, etc.). > So they do use the extra key that you suggest above. > > As you do not feel comfortable with using "Blue" for the > various summaries in all of the applicable modes, how about > implementing an additional "i" key and putting the summaries > on that one? Additional keys are always ok. I just have to find a nice way of allowing the user to define all these keys in the learning phase. Since not every user may want to use all of the keys (maybe because the individual remote control just doesn't have that many keys) I need a way of allowing the user to skip definition of individual keys. Once this is done new functionalities can be easily added. Klaus -- _______________________________________________________________ Klaus Schmidinger Phone: +49-8635-6989-10 CadSoft Computer GmbH Fax: +49-8635-6989-40 Hofmark 2 Email: kls@cadsoft.de D-84568 Pleiskirchen, Germany URL: www.cadsoft.de _______________________________________________________________ --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From rjkm@convergence.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:13 2001 Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 16:27:31 +0100 (CET) From: Ralph Metzler To: Steve Brown Cc: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] TTBudget NAPI restrictions? Steve Brown writes: > Is there list of the NAPI subset for the budget card? > > If not, could one of you experts confirm/expand/correct the following > guesses? > > DVB Video API - ? (probably not) > > DVB Audio API - ? (probably not) > > DVB Frontend API - yes (tuxzap tunes and /dev/video delivers the right > TS packets) > > DVB SEC API - ? (probably, but saw restrictions in the driver) > > DVB Demux API - ? (the driver seems to implement some software > filtering, though the card doesn't.) > > DVB CA API - ? (probably not) All correct. The SEC stuff is on my list. Shouldn't be too much work to complete. Ralph --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From Stefan.Hagendorn@lindy.cc Wed Aug 1 13:04:13 2001 Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 17:35:56 +0100 From: Stefan.Hagendorn@lindy.cc To: Klaus Schmidinger Cc: linux-dvb Subject: [linux-dvb] Antwort: Re: some newbie questions concerning VDR 0.71 & DVB 0.82 -- Unable to decode HTML file!! -- --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From Stefan.Hagendorn@lindy.cc Wed Aug 1 13:04:13 2001 Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 17:47:27 +0100 From: Stefan.Hagendorn@lindy.cc To: Klaus Schmidinger Cc: linux-dvb Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: some newbie questions concerning VDR 0.71 & DVB 0.82 >Additional keys are always ok. I just have to find a nice >way of allowing the user to define all these keys in the >learning phase. Since not every user may want to use all >of the keys (maybe because the individual remote control >just doesn't have that many keys) I need a way of allowing >the user to skip definition of individual keys. Once this >is done new functionalities can be easily added. > >Klaus >-- >__ Klaus, how about a congif file with the keymappings (maybe only for the 4 colors) Here what I mean .. vdrkeymap.conf: ######################################### #Available Options #EPG.Short #EPG.Long #NAV.10sec+ #NAV.1min+ #NAV.10sec- #NAV.1min- # # Main Section # in main no navigation commands are allowed main.red=null main.blue=EPG.Short main.green=EPG.Long main.yellow=null # Replay Section # in Replay Section no EPG Commands are allowed replay.red=NAV.10sec+ replay.blue=NAV.1min+ replay.green=NAV.1min- replay.yellow=NAV.10sec+ ############################################ Something like that .. If you like I can start to build the definition ... but I can't include the functionality :-( Greetings Stefan Hagendorn --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From praml.roland@t-online.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:13 2001 Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 18:10:15 +0100 From: Roland Praml To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Timeshifting with MPEG II Decoder Card Is it possible to get VDR & timeshifting work with a MPEG II Decoder card ? (like a Dxr 3-DVD-Decoder Card) Perhaps with using the SPDIF for AC3-Output :-) Or is there some hope that the DVB driver support concurrent playing and recording in the future ? Roland --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From Webmaster@internettest.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:13 2001 Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 20:01:13 +0100 From: Matthias Queisler To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] Cutting Is it possible too make the editing more exactly? Half a second is to much. I know the prob with the I-Frames etc. but isn't it possible? About the commands.conf. Is it only possible to make an outpu with it or can you make input like a number or another sub menu? cu --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From h.westphal@gmx.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:13 2001 Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 21:33:17 +0100 From: Harald Westphal To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] AW:Playback MP3 over the DVB-S Device ? Marcus O.C. Metzler wrote: > If you can generate a PCM output and use the PES standard for PCM (as > found on some/many music video DVDs) packages you can play them on the DVB > card. It should be possible to get e.g. mpg123 to do that. You can do > the same for AC3. Use ac3dec to get PCM and from that generate PCM PES > and pipe it into the card. I extracted the part from dvdplayer by Matjaz Thaler where PCM PES is sent to the DVB device and wrote a small program which takes a raw PCM stream and converts it to PCM PES. You can download it at http://www.uni-karlsruhe.de/~unhj/raw2pcm.c Usage: mpg123 -r 48000 --cdr - XXX.mp3 | raw2pcm >/dev/video Input must be PCM, stereo, 16 bit signed, 48 KHz, big endian. -- Harald Westphal *** eMail: h.westphal@gmx.de *** WWW: http://www.uni-karlsruhe.de/~Harald.Westphal/ --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From mels@lekdijk.nl Wed Aug 1 13:04:13 2001 Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 10:46:34 +0100 From: mels Nieuwenhoven To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Cc: Frantisek Bocek Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: Using TV-Out Grafix Cards with VDR ? Which 'internal connector' you are referring to? and what is the pinout? Best to you all, sawit FB> ----- Original Message ----- FB> From: "Ratschkowski Tobias" FB> To: FB> Sent: Monday, February 26, 2001 6:20 PM FB> Subject: [linux-dvb] Using TV-Out Grafix Cards with VDR ? >> Hello, >> >> does you all use the FBAS-Output on the DVB-Card for video playback ? >> i asking myself, if is possible to get the pictue from a tv-Out Card >> and using the higher quality s-video signal. >> >> Is that possible ? >> FB> Hi, FB> There are RGB/SVIDEO signals on the internal connector of the DVB card. It can be connected FB> to a TV set using a proper cable (scart). FB> Rgds FB> Frantisek FB> --- FB> Info: FB> To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. -- Best regards, mels mailto:mels@lekdijk.nl --- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to listar@linuxtv.org with "unsubscribe linux-dvb" as subject. From benjamin.harling@web.de Wed Aug 1 13:04:13 2001 Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 01:05:42 +0100 From: Benjamin Harling To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: [linux-dvb] What DVB-S-Card, some questions remain Hi everybody, after watching ths mailing-list for some time and after reviewing the information on linuxtv.org etc. I am still wondering what actual dvb-s-card ist useable. I mean which brand in terms of what's available on the market. I understand the Hauppauge DVB-s has the Siemens-Fujitsu chip which has been provided with documentation. This card is rather expensive and some questions remain which I like to ask anyone of you: 1.) Is the card mentioned, one of those "moraly" right (because it has the chips documentation was provided for? 2.) Is there a real Siemens-Fujitsu-card available? 3.) Are there alternatives? Like e.g. the Hauppauge WinTV Nova? I read that Terratec-cards are being supported but I haven't seen one with DVB-s support on the market. Correct me if I'm wrong. So I'm a bit confused