[vdr] Re: Will these work for linux?

[Stan Moon <second_exodous@yahoo.com>]

I heard, but it might have been Direct TV though, that
you can take cards from one box to the other, they're
just fried when a signal is sent to the box.  It was
on the news a year or so ago that kids were taking
cards that had soft porn channels subscribed on them
but their friends box didn't have the adult lock on
the box set up.  I know a few people that have Dish
Networks, so I'll try it.  And I do know that Direct
TV personal can make 'unmaked cards' that don't check
the box, so maybe I'll let mine get fried a few times
and play dumb: 'I have no idea why my card keeps
getting fried, I never take it anywhere.' and maybe
the guy will get sick of making me cards and make me
one with out the code that looks for the box I.D.

Also, I'm sure that if the Nagravision cams don't
decode it I'm sure someone has written a software side
like you said, but none the less I think I'm going to
switch to Dish Networks from AT&T cable, so I'll play
around with it.
--- "William E. Mrozinski" <wem@dcshome.com> wrote:
> I went chasing down this same rabbit hole about a
> year ago
> and thats what I learned/concluded.  There should be
> some
> threads in the archive to that effect from around
> that
> time.  Understand, I'm not saying that it can't be
> done in
> theory; but its going to take some off the shelf
> stuff,
> custom mods to the CI code that is there which
> currently
> isn't reliable yet, and a willingness to sacrifice
> some
> hardware in the $100's of dollars just to see if its
> possible with customizations.  Any of the current
> DVB
> boards will pick up 'in the clear' DISH channels
> just fine
> ( I've done it with a DVB-S board ) but there is not
> much
> but barker channels in the clear.  The cam is the
> key... I
> think a soft-CAM may go about things differently but
> I
> never dug deep into that.
> 
>     Bill
> 
> Stan Moon wrote:
> 
> > Outch.  Where did you get this info?  from people
> that
> > have allready tried it or someone just told you?
> >
> > Thanx,
> > Stan
> >
> > --- "William E. Mrozinski" <wem@dcshome.com>
> wrote:
> > > Here are the two gotcha's:
> > >
> > > DISH uses a proprietary version of Nagravision,
> not
> > > generic...
> > >
> > > Every DISH box made has an internal serial
> number in
> > > firmware that is keyed with the card assigned to
> > > you.  So
> > > to do this you need to use the registered DISH
> card
> > > in
> > > your CAM ( no one has ever even tried this much
> of
> > > the
> > > process to my knowledge ) and the support code
> for
> > > the CAM
> > > must allow for providing the box key value to be
> > > used in
> > > the decrypt.  Oh yeah, getting to the box key
> > > involves a
> > > major hack to the registered box with probable
> risk
> > > of
> > > destruction of the box if not done perfectly.
> > > There's
> > > more, but this was enough to send me looking for
> > > something
> > > else to do(g)...
> > >
> > > Unless you're a glutton for punishment or on an
> > > unlimited
> > > budget these things have prevented anyone that I
> > > know of
> > > from making this fly...
> > >
> > > Sorry for the reality check, but I just couldn't
> > > watch you
> > > swinging in the wind any more...(g)
> > >
> > >     Bill
> >
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