[linux-dvb] patch collection for Kernel 2.6.16-rc1
sboyce at blueyonder.co.uk
Thu Feb 2 04:54:09 CET 2006
hermann pitton wrote:
> Am Donnerstag, den 02.02.2006, 00:45 +0000 schrieb Sid Boyce:
>> Johannes Stezenbach wrote:
>>> On Wed, Feb 01, 2006, Uwe Bugla wrote:
>>>> 1. Because people like Johannes do not do the job they are being paid for at
>>> Actually I do the work that I get paid for.
>>> Unfortunately, linuxtv.org / linux-dvb stuff is not part of it. :-(
>> For that most of us are eternally grateful and recogize the fact. It's
>> an attitude I find prevalent in my dealings with Linux newbies who are
>> coming from an environment where you plug the card in, run a CD and it
>> does whatever it does, no comebacks if it doesn't do something they
>> would like - "it just does that" is accepted.
>> On here, you can ask for features, make corrections, test the software
>> and offer feedback. Devlopers such as yourself are very attentive and do
>> a sterling job, that's why I'm on the list and all of us should realise
>> the results are product of a hard slog in your own time. I have issues
>> not to do with TV cards, I test new kernels, see improvements and hope
>> one day, I can get the stuff to work properly. Over the years I have had
>> hardware that hasn't worked for years, but now it does and is in
>> service. We owe you, you don't owe us.
> Since it happens that we talk about such.
> When I saw, that it would be too much for more or less one single, even
> paid a little/best 5 years _full_ time guy, I'm talking about Gerd, to
> keep all the new and old video4linux drivers going, move them forward,
> add new stuff, serve the lists, adapt to latest kernels over all these
> years, _and_ then move in front of that big amounts of code from kernel
> to kernel, without much relieve additionally for quite some while, to
> implement new PCI bridge chips, which became ATSC/DVB-T capable too, I
> thought in all this the dvb guys must at least have 10 times more
> resources to come such far already and we are the lost species ...
> Sorry for my ignorance and some sarcasm previously.
> I'm with Sid. If pilots (.fr) say "Hals- und Beinbruch" to each other,
> they still mean, want and wish the best.
> And it doesn't look bad.
Agreed, "Break a leg" is always taken as a friendly urge to have a real
go, do your best. I watched Gerd at it for years from when bttv was an
add-on and I was very impressed when after a short period of silence
following his announcement that he could no longer run the project, the
number of guys who stepped up to take it on and expand it. This is the
fastest moving project I can remember and one that slots so well into
kernel development, I no longer have to use the CVS versions for the 3
cards in 3 boxen, 2 here and 1 at my daughter's. Yet I'm aware that the
next attractive offer I come across or someone who needs help to get
different cards running, CVS, oops! hg may well be where I have to go.
Sid Boyce ... Hamradio License G3VBV, Licensed Private Pilot
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