[linux-dvb] [Proposal] Regarding the mailing lists
CityK at rogers.com
Fri Jan 11 01:32:05 CET 2008
Hans Verkuil wrote:
>> One factor that perhaps adds some weight to this argument/proposal is
>> the diminishing importance that analogue TV related issues are going
>> to hold over time ( as more and more countries switch to digital
>> transmission systems). Of course, the light won't go out for
>> analogue TV for a number of years to come, but I think that users
>> familiar to the lists will have already noticed the trend towards dvb
>> related topics on the v4l list.
> v4l is not about analog TV in particular, it is basically for everything
> video related that is not a DVB device or a graphics card. This
> includes webcams, MPEG encoders/decoders, digital video streaming,
> among others.
> While analog TV will diminish in importance (in some
> parts of the world) that does not mean that v4l will become less
hehe...I think we are in complete agreement on that one --> see the
amendment I made earlier in the day to this article:
> I disagree. As stated above, v4l really deals with video streams in one
> way or another. Analog TV is a fairly small part of that. So I
> personally think that v4l is a pretty good descriptor of this
> subsystem. (Although there are some oddities like radio and RDS
> devices). To keep in sync with v4l-dvb-maintainer I would suggest
> v4l-dvb-users and v4l-dvb-devel.
Fair enough (i.e. disagreeing about whether v4l is a good descriptor).
But a large point here (for me) is in terms of the branding (i.e.
LinuxTV) and a move away from the specific subsystem names which, as we
apparently both have agreed upon, are not as clear to the end user. In
other words, while v4l-dvb-users and v4l-dvb-devel are good, I think we
could do better and capitalise on on the LinuxTV branding with what I
>> - turning to the #irc channels, the same arguments hold, except that
>> the dvb related channel isn't even named as such...rather it carries
>> the "linuxtv" name ... now, I know that the channel topic headers
>> will describe the type of discussion related to that channel, but
>> honestly, next to no one heeds any attention to that...so it is of my
>> opinion that the situation is even less then clear for the end
>> user....in my opinion, its time to make a single channel function for
>> all end users .... if so desired even two channels --
>> "#LinuxTV-users" (or even just usurp the existing #linuxtv channel
>> into becoming multifunctional) and possibly another for developers if
>> they so desire (i.e. "#LinuxTV-dvel")
> Well, I'd choose #v4l-dvb, but otherwise I agree.
same response as immediately above
> I never really think
> of this as a 'linuxtv' project because I always thought of it as v4l
> and dvb subsystems and linuxtv being just the domain name.
Fair enough, I can see that point.
I do, however, as I have argued, believe that the "LinuxTV" name is
superior in terms of description and "branding" *.
* And by branding, if it isn't obvious, I don't mean to imply that we
are trying to sell something, but rather am referring strictly to
Thanks for the feedback
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