<div dir="ltr">Thanks Jelle, and Christophe, thanks for your reply. I was thinking in a technical (developer's) way, but didn't mean to start an illegal issue... Anyway I know the answer now, thanks <br><br><div class="gmail_quote">
On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 3:03 PM, Jelle De Loecker <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:skerit@kipdola.com">skerit@kipdola.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<div><div></div><div class="Wj3C7c">Christophe Thommeret schreef:<br>
> Le Monday 11 August 2008 11:22:43 Jelle De Loecker, vous avez écrit :<br>
><br>
>> Christophe Thommeret schreef:<br>
>><br>
>>> Le Monday 04 August 2008 18:58:17 kurt xue, vous avez écrit :<br>
>>><br>
>>>> Hi,<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> I have two TechnoTrend DVB-C PCI card and 1 CAM, is it possible to use<br>
>>>> this CAM to descramble signal from frontends of both DVB card?<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Thanks in advance for any reply!<br>
>>>> Kurt<br>
>>>><br>
>>> No.<br>
>>><br>
>> That isn't a very helpful answer to his problem, is it?<br>
>> He might have wanted any reply, but trying to be friendly wouldn't have<br>
>> killed you.<br>
>><br>
>> I'll give this a go:<br>
>><br>
>> There is a way, called "cardsharing", to decode multiple streams with 1<br>
>> cam.<br>
>><br>
> CAM != CardReader<br>
><br>
><br>
>> Do note, however, that some people think this is illegal, but that's<br>
>> because cardsharing has a bad name. There are people who perform this<br>
>> "cardsharing" with other people over the internet, which IS illegal.<br>
>><br>
> Getting control words outside the "secured" area is illegal.<br>
><br>
>> Because of this most people don't want us to talk about *any *kind of<br>
>> cardsharing, just to be on the safe side.<br>
>> I can follow their reasoning but it still resembles some kind of<br>
>> illogical censor which we should not tollerate!<br>
>> But I digress ...<br>
>><br>
>> Because this local cardsharing is not illegal (at least not where I'm<br>
>> from), some set top boxes you buy in the store also have multiple<br>
>> (working) tuners, so they perform some kind of internal cardsharing as<br>
>> well.<br>
>><br>
> It's not a matter of cardsharing. It's of course technicaly possible to have<br>
> one cam beeing feed with streams from different tuners, but not on most PC<br>
> DVB cards like the TT ones where CI is wired to the card.<br>
><br>
><br>
>> Please correct me if I'm wrong or being ignorant ...<br>
>><br>
> Done.<br>
><br>
</div></div>What is the definition of this "secured" area?<br>
<br>
According to you it's perfectly ok to decrypt multiple streams with one<br>
cam... but only if it is with the correct, approved, hardware?<br>
<br>
In essence, this is a shortcomming of the TT hardware, can we really<br>
tell people not to fix it using software because it'll break some<br>
ridiculous IP law, or whatever?<br>
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