[vdr] EPG Question (concerning BBC3 and BBC4)

Jon Burgess jburgess777 at googlemail.com
Thu Feb 8 22:23:31 CET 2007


On Thu, 2007-02-08 at 17:25 +0100, Brian wrote:
> Jon Burgess wrote:
> > On Mon, 2007-02-05 at 20:12 +0100, Brian wrote:
> >> Tony Grant wrote:
> >>> Le lundi 05 février 2007 à 17:49 +0100, Brian a écrit :
> >>>
> >>>> BBC3 and BBC4 only start to show programs at 19:00 UK time. My EPG for 
> >>>> these programs comes via the internet. If I try to look at the EPG for 
> >>>> those channels before 19:00, then they are not even shown in the list of 
> >>>>   programs I have EPG for on the OSD.
> >>>> I assume this is a desired behaviour of VDR. If so, any way to change it?
> >>>> I didn't find anyway in the Menus.
> >>> I use the following method:
> >>>
> >>> 	- grab the EPG from the radio times site with xmltv
> >>> 	- feed vdr with xmltv2vdr
> >>> 	- vdr updates "on the fly" EPG data for changed times
> >>>
> >>> And I use vdradmin rather than the OSD so you see the timelines of 3 and
> >>> 4 starting at 7. Before then you do have ceebeebies and the other kids
> >>> channel onn the same frequency
> >>>
> >>> Cheers
> >>>
> >>> Tony 
> >>>
> >> Tony,
> >>
> >> I get the EPG into VDR the same way. And I can see it via VDRAdmin. Its 
> >> just I want to see it on the OSD before 7pm if at all possible.
> >>
> >> Cheers Brian
> >>
> > 
> > I use the off-air EPG and the display of BBC3/4 is OK right now (18:30).
> > When you look at the EPG in vdradmin do you see any programs covering
> > the period when the channel is off-air?
> > 
> > I see token schedule entries covering the off-air period:
> > 
> > 
> > 05:32 - 12:00 'This is BBC THREE'
> > 12:00 - 18:58 'This is BBC THREE'
> > 18:58 - 19:00 'Welcome to BBC THREE'
> > ... on-air
> > 19:00 - 20:00 'Dog Borstal'
> > ...
> > 
> > Perhaps the issue with xmltv2vdr is that there are voids in the schedule
> > data which (might) cause the channel not to be listed in the schedule
> > guide. 
> > 
> > 	Jon
> > 
> > 
> > 
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> > 
> Hi,
> maybe I was not clear about the problem. My EPG for BBC3/4 has about 1 
> weeks data in it. I retrieve it from the Radio Times website. Here is an 
> excerpt from VDRAdmin.
> 
> .....
> 04:20 - 04:50 The Indestructibles
> 				<---- big gap here, same each day
> 20:00 - 20:30 Doctor Who Confidential
> 20:30 - 21:15 Doctor Who
> .....
> 
> The problem is if I go into the VDR OSD and press schedule (when tuned 
> to BBC1 for example), then hit the NEXT button, then I get a list of all 
>   channels that VDR has got EPG for. "Whats on next" is the screen 
> title. Before 19:00 (UK time) this list is missing BBC3 and BBC4. So I 
> cannot select them to look at the EPG data which is most certainly there.
> 
> I think VDR is saying "BBC3 and BBC4 do not exist, therefore don't show 
> their EPG". Or, this channel is "CBeebies, get its EPG", which does not 
> exist.
> 
> If I tune to BBC3 before 19:00 then press "OK", I do not get the usual 
> two EPG entries "Whats on now" and "Whats on next". So it seems like it 
> isn't retrieving the EPG from the epg.data file at that time either.
> 

Makes sense. I was trying to highlight that this big space in the EPG is
almost certainly the reason you see problems with the EPG on these
channels. Maybe this is a bug in VDR but as you can see the broadcast
EPG data is filled with entries even when the channels are off-air so
this is why most people probably do not see this issue.

One workaround would be to adapt xmltv2epg to fill in these blanks.

	Jon





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