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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 8/18/2013 7:27 PM, Brian-Imap wrote:<br>
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      <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 8/15/2013 9:08 PM, Brian-Imap
        wrote:<br>
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        <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 8/15/2013 5:58 PM, Arthur wrote:<br>
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          18:37, Brian-Imap kirjutas: <br>
          <blockquote type="cite">On 8/14/2013 10:16 PM, Arthur wrote: <br>
            <blockquote type="cite">14.08.2013 19:01, Brian-Imap
              kirjutas: <br>
              <blockquote type="cite">On 8/11/2013 11:43 AM, Brian-Imap
                wrote: <br>
                <blockquote type="cite">On 8/8/2013 10:22 PM, Lars
                  Hanisch wrote: <br>
                  <blockquote type="cite">Am 08.08.2013 16:23, schrieb
                    Brian-Imap: <br>
                    <blockquote type="cite">On 8/7/2013 9:58 PM, Lars
                      Hanisch wrote: <br>
                      <blockquote type="cite">Hi, <br>
                        <br>
                        Am 07.08.2013 21:04, schrieb Brian-Imap: <br>
                        <blockquote type="cite">Hi, <br>
                          I now a have a 4 Tuner Cine S2 setup that I
                          want to run with 3 <br>
                          cables, I want to keep the fourth cable for a
                          test VDR. <br>
                          Reading about this I only see how to do it
                          together with the <br>
                          Dynamite Plugin, is that correct that I must
                          use that <br>
                          Plugin to get it to work for VDR? <br>
                          <br>
                          I am currently running a plain VDR setup on
                          Ubuntu, with very few <br>
                          plugins and had no need for the Dynamite
                          Plugin <br>
                          up till now. <br>
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                          You don't really need dynamite. If you want to
                        omit the fourth <br>
                        tuner (in kernel count order), you can start vdr
                        with <br>
                        the -D parameter (see vdr --help). <br>
                        <br>
                          vdr -D0 -D1 -D2 <other parameters as
                        usual> <br>
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                        Regards, <br>
                        Lars. <br>
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                        <blockquote type="cite">Cheers Brian <br>
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                      Hi Lars, <br>
                      <br>
                      OK I knew about this, but I thought that the
                      Card/Tuners numbers <br>
                      could change <br>
                      from boot to boot. Are you saying that they will
                      not change? <br>
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                      If it's one bridge with 4 tuners, I doubt their
                    order will change. <br>
                    <br>
                      You may want to read about "device bonding", where
                    you split one <br>
                    cable on two tuners so they share polarisation and <br>
                    band, but may be tuned to different transponders. <br>
                    <br>
                      But I'm a cable user, I don't know much about it,
                    just that there <br>
                    are some people out there who use it successfully.
                    :) <br>
                    <br>
                    Regards, <br>
                    Lars. <br>
                    <br>
                    <blockquote type="cite">Cheers Brian <br>
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                  Hi, <br>
                  thanks for the tips, unfotunately I ended up needing
                  to keep using a <br>
                  FF Card for a short while. <br>
                  <br>
                  So I followed the CT tip and added a TT C-2300 Cable
                  FF card that is <br>
                  not connected to cable at all. <br>
                  That part seems to work really well. <br>
                  <br>
                  Using the -D parameter in VDR I limited VDR to using
                  the first 4 DVB <br>
                  Devices and this is what it gave me: <br>
                  <br>
                  Aug 11 11:09:31 localhost vdr: [936] frontend 0/0
                  provides <br>
                  DVB-S,DVB-S2,DSS with QPSK ("STV090x Multistandard") <br>
                  Aug 11 11:09:31 localhost vdr: [936] frontend 1/0
                  provides DVB-C with <br>
                  QAM16,QAM32,QAM64,QAM128,QAM256 ("ST STV0297 DVB-C") <br>
                  Aug 11 11:09:31 localhost vdr: [936] frontend 2/0
                  provides <br>
                  DVB-S,DVB-S2,DSS with QPSK ("STV090x Multistandard") <br>
                  Aug 11 11:09:31 localhost vdr: [936] frontend 4/0
                  provides <br>
                  DVB-S,DVB-S2,DSS with QPSK ("STV090x Multistandard") <br>
                  <br>
                  So tuners 1-3 of the Cine S2 and Duoflex are now in
                  use. DBV device 1 <br>
                  provides nothing but MPEG output. <br>
                  <br>
                  I guess I'll keep an eye on the DVB device ordering
                  for a while to see <br>
                  how it goes. <br>
                  <br>
                  Cheers Brian <br>
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                Hi, <br>
                well the DVB device numbering is not consistent: <br>
                <br>
                "VDR-Test-Cellar(SDA2):  15:25   [995] frontend 3/0
                provides <br>
                DVB-S,DVB-S2,DSS with QPSK (""STV090x Multistandard"")"
                <br>
                "VDR-Test-Cellar(SDA2):  15:25   [995] frontend 2/0
                provides <br>
                DVB-S,DVB-S2,DSS with QPSK (""STV090x Multistandard"")"
                <br>
                "VDR-Test-Cellar(SDA2):  15:25   [995] frontend 1/0
                provides DVB-C with <br>
                QAM16,QAM32,QAM64,QAM128,QAM256 (""ST STV0297 DVB" <br>
                "VDR-Test-Cellar(SDA2):  15:25   [995] frontend 0/0
                provides <br>
                DVB-S,DVB-S2,DSS with QPSK (""STV090x Multistandard"")"
                <br>
                <br>
                "VDR-Test-Cellar(SDA2):  05:10   [1018] frontend 3/0
                provides <br>
                DVB-S,DVB-S2,DSS with QPSK (""STV090x Multistandard"")"
                <br>
                "VDR-Test-Cellar(SDA2):  05:10   [1018] frontend 2/0
                provides DVB-C with <br>
                QAM16,QAM32,QAM64,QAM128,QAM256 (""ST STV0297 DV" <br>
                "VDR-Test-Cellar(SDA2):  05:10   [1018] frontend 1/0
                provides <br>
                DVB-S,DVB-S2,DSS with QPSK (""STV090x Multistandard"")"
                <br>
                "VDR-Test-Cellar(SDA2):  05:10   [1018] frontend 0/0
                provides <br>
                DVB-S,DVB-S2,DSS with QPSK (""STV090x Multistandard"")"
                <br>
                <br>
                "VDR-Test-Cellar(SDA2):  06:52   [1080] frontend 3/0
                provides DVB-C with <br>
                QAM16,QAM32,QAM64,QAM128,QAM256 (""ST STV0297 DV" <br>
                "VDR-Test-Cellar(SDA2):  06:52   [1080] frontend 2/0
                provides <br>
                DVB-S,DVB-S2,DSS with QPSK (""STV090x Multistandard"")"
                <br>
                "VDR-Test-Cellar(SDA2):  06:52   [1080] frontend 1/0
                provides <br>
                DVB-S,DVB-S2,DSS with QPSK (""STV090x Multistandard"")"
                <br>
                "VDR-Test-Cellar(SDA2):  06:52   [1080] frontend 0/0
                provides <br>
                DVB-S,DVB-S2,DSS with QPSK (""STV090x Multistandard"")"
                <br>
                <br>
                "VDR-Test-Cellar(SDA2):  19:16   [1015] frontend 3/0
                provides <br>
                DVB-S,DVB-S2,DSS with QPSK (""STV090x Multistandard"")"
                <br>
                "VDR-Test-Cellar(SDA2):  19:16   [1015] frontend 2/0
                provides <br>
                DVB-S,DVB-S2,DSS with QPSK (""STV090x Multistandard"")"
                <br>
                "VDR-Test-Cellar(SDA2):  19:16   [1015] frontend 1/0
                provides DVB-C with <br>
                QAM16,QAM32,QAM64,QAM128,QAM256 (""ST STV0297 DV" <br>
                "VDR-Test-Cellar(SDA2):  19:16   [1015] frontend 0/0
                provides <br>
                DVB-S,DVB-S2,DSS with QPSK (""STV090x Multistandard"")"
                <br>
                <br>
                Up till now it has not been a problem, the one without a
                cable must be <br>
                4/0. Still I am wondering if this can be controlled? <br>
                Before VDR start unload the DVB drivers, then load
                DVBTTPCI first and <br>
                give it a short delay and then load DDBridge maybe? <br>
                Still, then is it then guaranteed that DDBridge will
                number its 4 tuners <br>
                correctly? <br>
                <br>
                Cheers Brian <br>
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              Do you tried udev rules for controlling multiple DVB
              device numbering? <br>
              <br>
              br, <br>
              Arthur <br>
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            Arthur, <br>
            No. Please tell me how? <br>
            Cheers Brian <br>
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          At the moment I don't use it, but I found it from my archive.
          <br>
          Attached file has been placed in the /etc/udev/rules.d folder
          in my Slackware PC. <br>
          <br>
          br, <br>
          Arthur <br>
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        Arthur, thanks very much<br>
        <br>
        I'll only get around to trying it at the weekend though.<br>
        <br>
        Cheers<br>
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      Hi,<br>
      so I tried to look for some kind of info to help me identify the
      tuners, this is the most interesting bit I guess:<br>
      <br>
      VDR-test-cellar (SDB1): udevadm info --query=all
      --name=/dev/dvb/adapter1/frontend0 --attribute-walk<br>
        looking at device
      '/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:0d.0/0000:02:00.0/dvb/dvb1.frontend0':<br>
          KERNEL=="dvb1.frontend0"<br>
          SUBSYSTEM=="dvb"<br>
          DRIVER==""<br>
      <br>
      VDR-test-cellar (SDB1): udevadm info --query=all
      --name=/dev/dvb/adapter0/frontend0 --attribute-walk<br>
        looking at device
      '/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:0d.0/0000:02:00.0/dvb/dvb0.frontend0':<br>
          KERNEL=="dvb0.frontend0"<br>
          SUBSYSTEM=="dvb"<br>
          DRIVER==""<br>
      <br>
      VDR-test-cellar (SDB1): udevadm info --query=all
      --name=/dev/dvb/adapter2/frontend0 --attribute-walk<br>
        looking at device
      '/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:0d.0/0000:02:00.0/dvb/dvb2.frontend0':<br>
          KERNEL=="dvb2.frontend0"<br>
          SUBSYSTEM=="dvb"<br>
          DRIVER==""<br>
      <br>
      VDR-test-cellar (SDB1): udevadm info --query=all
      --name=/dev/dvb/adapter3/frontend0 --attribute-walk<br>
        looking at device
      '/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:06.0/0000:01:06.0/dvb/dvb3.frontend0':<br>
          KERNEL=="dvb3.frontend0"<br>
          SUBSYSTEM=="dvb"<br>
          DRIVER==""<br>
      <br>
      VDR-test-cellar (SDB1): udevadm info --query=all
      --name=/dev/dvb/adapter4/frontend0 --attribute-walk<br>
        looking at device
      '/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:0d.0/0000:02:00.0/dvb/dvb4.frontend0':<br>
          KERNEL=="dvb4.frontend0"<br>
          SUBSYSTEM=="dvb"<br>
          DRIVER==""<br>
      <br>
      At the moment I cannot find anything to identify the 4 Tuners on
      the Cine S2, the FF on 01:06 is easy.<br>
      I got hit by tuning problems a few days ago as the tuner without a
      cable was given FE3/0. The FF got FE4/0<br>
      at that time.  I'm wondering if the DDBridge driver will always
      number in the correct order.<br>
      <br>
      So I guess I'll try to make the FF FE0/0, and hope that the
      DDBRidge driver will do the rest.<br>
      <br>
      Cheers Brian<br>
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    Not so easy.   <br>
    I can get the FF to be FE0/0 but after that things get complicated.
    <br>
    I guess I need some sort of identification to allow udev to do the
    rename correctly.<br>
    Cheers Brian<br>
    <br>
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