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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 8/15/2013 9:08 PM, Brian-Imap wrote:<br>
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      <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 8/15/2013 5:58 PM, Arthur wrote:<br>
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        18:37, Brian-Imap kirjutas: <br>
        <blockquote type="cite">On 8/14/2013 10:16 PM, Arthur wrote: <br>
          <blockquote type="cite">14.08.2013 19:01, Brian-Imap kirjutas:
            <br>
            <blockquote type="cite">On 8/11/2013 11:43 AM, Brian-Imap
              wrote: <br>
              <blockquote type="cite">On 8/8/2013 10:22 PM, Lars Hanisch
                wrote: <br>
                <blockquote type="cite">Am 08.08.2013 16:23, schrieb
                  Brian-Imap: <br>
                  <blockquote type="cite">On 8/7/2013 9:58 PM, Lars
                    Hanisch wrote: <br>
                    <blockquote type="cite">Hi, <br>
                      <br>
                      Am 07.08.2013 21:04, schrieb Brian-Imap: <br>
                      <blockquote type="cite">Hi, <br>
                        I now a have a 4 Tuner Cine S2 setup that I want
                        to run with 3 <br>
                        cables, I want to keep the fourth cable for a
                        test VDR. <br>
                        Reading about this I only see how to do it
                        together with the <br>
                        Dynamite Plugin, is that correct that I must use
                        that <br>
                        Plugin to get it to work for VDR? <br>
                        <br>
                        I am currently running a plain VDR setup on
                        Ubuntu, with very few <br>
                        plugins and had no need for the Dynamite Plugin
                        <br>
                        up till now. <br>
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                        You don't really need dynamite. If you want to
                      omit the fourth <br>
                      tuner (in kernel count order), you can start vdr
                      with <br>
                      the -D parameter (see vdr --help). <br>
                      <br>
                        vdr -D0 -D1 -D2 <other parameters as
                      usual> <br>
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                      Regards, <br>
                      Lars. <br>
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                      <blockquote type="cite">Cheers Brian <br>
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                    Hi Lars, <br>
                    <br>
                    OK I knew about this, but I thought that the
                    Card/Tuners numbers <br>
                    could change <br>
                    from boot to boot. Are you saying that they will not
                    change? <br>
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                    If it's one bridge with 4 tuners, I doubt their
                  order will change. <br>
                  <br>
                    You may want to read about "device bonding", where
                  you split one <br>
                  cable on two tuners so they share polarisation and <br>
                  band, but may be tuned to different transponders. <br>
                  <br>
                    But I'm a cable user, I don't know much about it,
                  just that there <br>
                  are some people out there who use it successfully. :)
                  <br>
                  <br>
                  Regards, <br>
                  Lars. <br>
                  <br>
                  <blockquote type="cite">Cheers Brian <br>
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                Hi, <br>
                thanks for the tips, unfotunately I ended up needing to
                keep using a <br>
                FF Card for a short while. <br>
                <br>
                So I followed the CT tip and added a TT C-2300 Cable FF
                card that is <br>
                not connected to cable at all. <br>
                That part seems to work really well. <br>
                <br>
                Using the -D parameter in VDR I limited VDR to using the
                first 4 DVB <br>
                Devices and this is what it gave me: <br>
                <br>
                Aug 11 11:09:31 localhost vdr: [936] frontend 0/0
                provides <br>
                DVB-S,DVB-S2,DSS with QPSK ("STV090x Multistandard") <br>
                Aug 11 11:09:31 localhost vdr: [936] frontend 1/0
                provides DVB-C with <br>
                QAM16,QAM32,QAM64,QAM128,QAM256 ("ST STV0297 DVB-C") <br>
                Aug 11 11:09:31 localhost vdr: [936] frontend 2/0
                provides <br>
                DVB-S,DVB-S2,DSS with QPSK ("STV090x Multistandard") <br>
                Aug 11 11:09:31 localhost vdr: [936] frontend 4/0
                provides <br>
                DVB-S,DVB-S2,DSS with QPSK ("STV090x Multistandard") <br>
                <br>
                So tuners 1-3 of the Cine S2 and Duoflex are now in use.
                DBV device 1 <br>
                provides nothing but MPEG output. <br>
                <br>
                I guess I'll keep an eye on the DVB device ordering for
                a while to see <br>
                how it goes. <br>
                <br>
                Cheers Brian <br>
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              Hi, <br>
              well the DVB device numbering is not consistent: <br>
              <br>
              "VDR-Test-Cellar(SDA2):  15:25   [995] frontend 3/0
              provides <br>
              DVB-S,DVB-S2,DSS with QPSK (""STV090x Multistandard"")" <br>
              "VDR-Test-Cellar(SDA2):  15:25   [995] frontend 2/0
              provides <br>
              DVB-S,DVB-S2,DSS with QPSK (""STV090x Multistandard"")" <br>
              "VDR-Test-Cellar(SDA2):  15:25   [995] frontend 1/0
              provides DVB-C with <br>
              QAM16,QAM32,QAM64,QAM128,QAM256 (""ST STV0297 DVB" <br>
              "VDR-Test-Cellar(SDA2):  15:25   [995] frontend 0/0
              provides <br>
              DVB-S,DVB-S2,DSS with QPSK (""STV090x Multistandard"")" <br>
              <br>
              "VDR-Test-Cellar(SDA2):  05:10   [1018] frontend 3/0
              provides <br>
              DVB-S,DVB-S2,DSS with QPSK (""STV090x Multistandard"")" <br>
              "VDR-Test-Cellar(SDA2):  05:10   [1018] frontend 2/0
              provides DVB-C with <br>
              QAM16,QAM32,QAM64,QAM128,QAM256 (""ST STV0297 DV" <br>
              "VDR-Test-Cellar(SDA2):  05:10   [1018] frontend 1/0
              provides <br>
              DVB-S,DVB-S2,DSS with QPSK (""STV090x Multistandard"")" <br>
              "VDR-Test-Cellar(SDA2):  05:10   [1018] frontend 0/0
              provides <br>
              DVB-S,DVB-S2,DSS with QPSK (""STV090x Multistandard"")" <br>
              <br>
              "VDR-Test-Cellar(SDA2):  06:52   [1080] frontend 3/0
              provides DVB-C with <br>
              QAM16,QAM32,QAM64,QAM128,QAM256 (""ST STV0297 DV" <br>
              "VDR-Test-Cellar(SDA2):  06:52   [1080] frontend 2/0
              provides <br>
              DVB-S,DVB-S2,DSS with QPSK (""STV090x Multistandard"")" <br>
              "VDR-Test-Cellar(SDA2):  06:52   [1080] frontend 1/0
              provides <br>
              DVB-S,DVB-S2,DSS with QPSK (""STV090x Multistandard"")" <br>
              "VDR-Test-Cellar(SDA2):  06:52   [1080] frontend 0/0
              provides <br>
              DVB-S,DVB-S2,DSS with QPSK (""STV090x Multistandard"")" <br>
              <br>
              "VDR-Test-Cellar(SDA2):  19:16   [1015] frontend 3/0
              provides <br>
              DVB-S,DVB-S2,DSS with QPSK (""STV090x Multistandard"")" <br>
              "VDR-Test-Cellar(SDA2):  19:16   [1015] frontend 2/0
              provides <br>
              DVB-S,DVB-S2,DSS with QPSK (""STV090x Multistandard"")" <br>
              "VDR-Test-Cellar(SDA2):  19:16   [1015] frontend 1/0
              provides DVB-C with <br>
              QAM16,QAM32,QAM64,QAM128,QAM256 (""ST STV0297 DV" <br>
              "VDR-Test-Cellar(SDA2):  19:16   [1015] frontend 0/0
              provides <br>
              DVB-S,DVB-S2,DSS with QPSK (""STV090x Multistandard"")" <br>
              <br>
              Up till now it has not been a problem, the one without a
              cable must be <br>
              4/0. Still I am wondering if this can be controlled? <br>
              Before VDR start unload the DVB drivers, then load
              DVBTTPCI first and <br>
              give it a short delay and then load DDBridge maybe? <br>
              Still, then is it then guaranteed that DDBridge will
              number its 4 tuners <br>
              correctly? <br>
              <br>
              Cheers Brian <br>
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            Do you tried udev rules for controlling multiple DVB device
            numbering? <br>
            <br>
            br, <br>
            Arthur <br>
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          Arthur, <br>
          No. Please tell me how? <br>
          Cheers Brian <br>
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        At the moment I don't use it, but I found it from my archive. <br>
        Attached file has been placed in the /etc/udev/rules.d folder in
        my Slackware PC. <br>
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        br, <br>
        Arthur <br>
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      Arthur, thanks very much<br>
      <br>
      I'll only get around to trying it at the weekend though.<br>
      <br>
      Cheers<br>
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    Hi,<br>
    so I tried to look for some kind of info to help me identify the
    tuners, this is the most interesting bit I guess:<br>
    <br>
    VDR-test-cellar (SDB1): udevadm info --query=all
    --name=/dev/dvb/adapter1/frontend0 --attribute-walk<br>
      looking at device
    '/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:0d.0/0000:02:00.0/dvb/dvb1.frontend0':<br>
        KERNEL=="dvb1.frontend0"<br>
        SUBSYSTEM=="dvb"<br>
        DRIVER==""<br>
    <br>
    VDR-test-cellar (SDB1): udevadm info --query=all
    --name=/dev/dvb/adapter0/frontend0 --attribute-walk<br>
      looking at device
    '/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:0d.0/0000:02:00.0/dvb/dvb0.frontend0':<br>
        KERNEL=="dvb0.frontend0"<br>
        SUBSYSTEM=="dvb"<br>
        DRIVER==""<br>
    <br>
    VDR-test-cellar (SDB1): udevadm info --query=all
    --name=/dev/dvb/adapter2/frontend0 --attribute-walk<br>
      looking at device
    '/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:0d.0/0000:02:00.0/dvb/dvb2.frontend0':<br>
        KERNEL=="dvb2.frontend0"<br>
        SUBSYSTEM=="dvb"<br>
        DRIVER==""<br>
    <br>
    VDR-test-cellar (SDB1): udevadm info --query=all
    --name=/dev/dvb/adapter3/frontend0 --attribute-walk<br>
      looking at device
    '/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:06.0/0000:01:06.0/dvb/dvb3.frontend0':<br>
        KERNEL=="dvb3.frontend0"<br>
        SUBSYSTEM=="dvb"<br>
        DRIVER==""<br>
    <br>
    VDR-test-cellar (SDB1): udevadm info --query=all
    --name=/dev/dvb/adapter4/frontend0 --attribute-walk<br>
      looking at device
    '/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:0d.0/0000:02:00.0/dvb/dvb4.frontend0':<br>
        KERNEL=="dvb4.frontend0"<br>
        SUBSYSTEM=="dvb"<br>
        DRIVER==""<br>
    <br>
    At the moment I cannot find anything to identify the 4 Tuners on the
    Cine S2, the FF on 01:06 is easy.<br>
    I got hit by tuning problems a few days ago as the tuner without a
    cable was given FE3/0. The FF got FE4/0<br>
    at that time.  I'm wondering if the DDBridge driver will always
    number in the correct order.<br>
    <br>
    So I guess I'll try to make the FF FE0/0, and hope that the DDBRidge
    driver will do the rest.<br>
    <br>
    Cheers Brian<br>
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