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Revision as of 19:05, 16 February 2014

On this page you will find information regarding DVB-S2 PCIe cards.

Please be aware that:
  • The information contained here is likely non-exhaustive and, despite best efforts to do otherwise, may contain errors. (Please help to keep these lists up-to-date so that they are useful for everyone!)
  • If your device is not listed, try:
    • searching the existing mailing list archives:
      • Linux-Media Mailing List (LMML) archives (via vger or .... )
      • or from the older mailing lists (now largely deprecated in favour of the LMML):
        • dvb mailing list archives (via spinics or MARC ... )
        • v4l mailing list archives (via .... )
    • searching for information with Google or other internet search engine
    • by posting a question about the device directly to the LMML (but please do conduct a search first, as it may already have been discussed!)
    • Note: when it comes to support, it is generally a good idea to try the current V4L-DVB sources because some device drivers can be very new and thus may have not made their way into the mainstream kernel.
In any regard, in respect to the above listed suggestions, you may find it to be the case that your device is actually already supported or that experimental support is available.
  • Because the component constitution on many devices are often similar or identical, there may be devices that are unlisted but may actually work with the existing driver framework for previously supported devices. In such a case, your non-listed but working device will likely be reported in your system messages as being one of those previously supported devices. If you encounter such an occurrence, please do report your success on the LMML so that proper detection/identification of your device can be added within the drivers.
  • Lastly, it bears worth repeating the request: Please help to keep these lists up-to-date so that they are useful for everyone!



Firmwares

Many of the devices on this page need a firmware, the best source for firmwares is OpenELEC dvb-firmware repository.

The firmwares on OpenELEC's repository are already extracted, just download the proper .fw file and copy to your firmware folder (usually /usr/lib/firmware).

DVB-S2 PCIe Devices

The following tables list the known DVB-S2 PCIe devices and provides a brief summary of their features and components. (or at least it should)

If you need more technical information on a device, have a look at its device specific wiki article if there is one.

The device specific article is linked via the device's name but not all are linked yet. If you find an article (e.g. via the search feature on the left) then please edit the device entry here add that link. Just click on the edit icon in the last column of the device's row.

If you are unsure about how to do it, click on the edit icon for a device that already has a link to see how it is done. Please feel free to create a device specific page if there is enough worthwhile information that doesn't fit in the comments field.

There is also a full detail table.

If you'd like to add a new device (supported or unsupported), please go to Template:PCI_Device_Data and follow the instruction there. If a device is unsupported, please add with which OS/kernel version you tested last.


Vendor
Device/Model
Supported ID on
Interface
Hardware Firmware Comment / Pictures URL E
Prof Revolution DVB-S2 8000 No PCIe Jump to the place where you can edit this entry
Micronas Reference Design STB0899/STB6100 No PCIe Jump to the place where you can edit this entry
Blackgold BGT3540 No PCIe Jump to the place where you can edit this entry
Pinnacle PCTV 7010iX No PCIe Jump to the place where you can edit this entry
BlackGold BGT3620 No PCIe Jump to the place where you can edit this entry
DVBSky T980C Yes 4254:980c PCIe Jump to the place where you can edit this entry
Mystique TeCaBiX-T2C Xpress CI No PCIe Jump to the place where you can edit this entry
DVBSky S850 Yes, by vendor [1] PCIe Montage M88TS2020 / Montage M88DS3000 / Conexant CX23885 dvb-fe-ds300x.fw Jump to the place where you can edit this entry
TBS Technologies TBS6980 Yes, by vendor [2] 6980:8888 PCIe NXP/Conexant CX24132 CX24117 CX23885 v4l-cx23885-avcore-01.fw dvb-fe-cx24117.fw Jump to the place where you can edit this entry
TBS Technologies TBS6981 Yes, by vendor [3] 6981:8888 PCIe NXP/Conexant CX24132 CX24117 CX23885 v4l-cx23885-avcore-01.fw dvb-fe-cx24117.fw Jump to the place where you can edit this entry
DigitalDevices CineS2 DVB-S2 Twin Tuner Yes 18c3:0720 PCIe Micronas NGene APB 7202A Cines2vers1150px.jpg DigitalDevices Jump to the place where you can edit this entry
TBS Technologies TBS6984 Yes, by vendor [4] 6984:0013 PCIe NXP SAA7160 Jump to the place where you can edit this entry
TBS Technologies TBS6985 Yes, by vendor [5] 6985:0001 PCIe NXP SAA7160 http://www.tbsdtv.com/products/tbs6985-dvb-s2-quad-tuner-pcie-card.html Jump to the place where you can edit this entry
TBS Technologies TBS6991SE Yes, by vendor [6] PCIe http://www.tbsdtv.com/products/tbs6991se-dvb-s2-dual-tuner-dual-ci-pcie-card.html Jump to the place where you can edit this entry
DVBWorld DVB-S2 PCIE2005 Yes PCIe Jump to the place where you can edit this entry
TeVii S470 Yes PCIe Jump to the place where you can edit this entry
TeVii S471 Yes, in kernel since 3.5 PCIe Jump to the place where you can edit this entry
TeVii S480 Yes, in kernel since 2.6.39 PCIe Jump to the place where you can edit this entry
NetUP Dual DVB-S2-CI Yes 1b55:2a2c PCIe Jump to the place where you can edit this entry
NetUP Dual Universal CI Yes 1b55:18f6 PCIe NetUP PCIe bridge based on Altera FPGA Supports DVB-S/S2/T/T2/C/C2 NetUP Dual Universal.jpg http://www.netup.tv/en-EN/netup-universal-dual-dvb-ci Jump to the place where you can edit this entry
Cerona Networks XpressVu DVB-S2 Dual Tuner Yes PCIe Jump to the place where you can edit this entry
Mystique SaTiX-S2 Dual Yes 18c3:0720 PCIe Jump to the place where you can edit this entry
TBS Technologies TBS6220 Yes, by vendor [7] PCIe Jump to the place where you can edit this entry
TBS Technologies TBS6284 Yes, by vendor [8] PCIe Jump to the place where you can edit this entry
TBS Technologies TBS6280 Yes, by vendor [9] PCIe Jump to the place where you can edit this entry
TBS Technologies TBS6285 Yes, by vendor [10] PCIe Jump to the place where you can edit this entry


Currently Unsupported DVB-S2 PCIe cards:

If you own one or more devices from the following list and you want to help with support development, please contact the Linux-Media Mailing List (LMML). Note that if your device is similar to or contains components for which driver development is currently being undertaken, then it is possible that you will pique the(se) developer's interest and can obtain some assistance that, possibly, leads to full support for your device.

However, please note that inquiries to the mailing list:

  • should NOT be treated as an order drop-off line/queue. You're soliciting help from volunteer developers who work on V4L-DVB matters in their spare time, and such work can be non-trivial (i.e. requiring even _thousands_ of hours work). So being demanding is one sure route to being ignored. (Honestly, this point really shouldn't even need to be written, but you'd be surprised at the number of irrational individuals who write into the mailing list demanding this or that).
  • may pass without even garnering a response -- that's a distinct by-product of the fact that there are only a limited number of developers, whom might be able to help, that are associated with the project. Often times, even if they wished to help, their energies are entirely tied up with other projects. In such cases, the best path might be to try to spearhead the driver development for your device yourself, or arrange to hire someone who can.
  • Micronas reference design|| STB0899 + STB6100 + Micronas PCIe Bridge (Dual DVB-S2, PCIe, no CI) .... PCIe Bridge driver needs some more work
  • Prof Revolution DVB-S2 8000 PCI-E

Supported by 3rd Party Drivers

Sometimes a manufacturer forks v4l-dvb all on their own and writes a driver for their device so they can claim Linux support.

In-Kernel 3rd party Drivers

Advantages:

  1. It's possible your device will work.. for the moment.
  2. If the manufacturer provides open source drivers with an acceptable license, volunteers could technically implement this code in the Linux kernel for true support. However.. :

Disadvantages:

  1. The quality of the code (if open, there are also cases where you just get a binary blob) too often just isn't good enough and there's still too much work to be done to make the device work. There was probably a reason the manufacturer didn't just send their patches to the linux-media mailinglist.
  2. Depending on what exactly the manufacturer did, you may have to reinstall the drivers every time your kernel is updated.
  3. When the manufacturer stops updating the drivers, the drivers will quickly refuse to install as newer kernels are released.

In case a manufacturer provides open source drivers the patches can be sent to the linux-media mailinglist Linux-Media Mailing List (LMML). Keep in mind however that if the license isn't compatible with the Linux kernel or the quality of the code isn't good enough, these will not become a part of the Linux kernel.

NOTE: As linux media drivers are character based, drivers can be also written using libfuse's character device in userspace example. If written that way, an out-of-kernel driver can be written, which fully integrates to udev without the disadvantage of closed source or incompatibility to other drivers. Such driver would rely on kernel fuse and character device in user space support as well as libfuse.

Closed source userspace drivers (mostly Sundtek)

Advantages:

  1. Same driver may be usable for different Linux versions, depending on what vendor did.
  2. No need to reinstall drivers when your kernel is updated.
  3. Drivers can be profiled easily and more accurately than in kernelspace.
  4. If the driver crashes, it won't crash the system or kernel, only the driver and applications using the driver will be affected. Userspace drivers can also be used when debugging drivers for USB host controllers, as the userspace driver can't crash the system, making debugging easier.
  5. If the manufacturer would stop to support the drivers, the userspace driver may still continue to work with newer Linux systems

Disadvantages:

  1. No interoperation with udev, since kernel interfaces are not used and uevents not send.
  2. Needs non-standard constructs to create device nodes or hack into system using LD_PRELOAD (bad idea.)
  3. Kernel doesnt autoload devices, since kernel is not aware of those devices.
  4. Drivers need to be downloaded from the manufacturer and installed, whereas in-kernel drivers are included in most popular Linux desktop-oriented distributions.
  5. You can't look into the sources. While this may be not a problem for end-users, it prevents hacking devices and trying to fix bugs.
  6. Similarly, users who want (or work for a company that requires) a FOSS-only system couldn't use these drivers. This also prevents inclusion in most Linux distributions.