[linux-dvb] Re: hdtv & dvb

[Jerico Webmail <jerico@jerico.demon.co.uk>]

Woops, I realised I forgot to send this to the group and I accidently just sent
my comments to Hamish instead.

So I'll try again to forward my comments.

Regards.
Bob Hannent

On Fri, Mar 12, 2004 at 04:25:47AM +0000, Robert Hannent wrote:
>
> Before I start I'll declare a vested interest as I work in satellite
> broadcasting in Europe. Oh, and I might be taking it off topic. Sorry in
> advance. :)
>
> IMHO, Firstly HD over satellite is rather an expensive idea. Most people don't
> really need HD and with the bitrate it uses it makes for an expensive
> broadcast. But the people will want it and the manufacturers will want to sell
> you new hardware to watch it on.
>
> There is alot of material available for HD in europe because alot of nature
> footage is shot with Super 16mm film to maintain quality (amazing forward
> thinking for the past 50 years) and this easily works on HD. Also we arn't as
> backwards in Europe as some might think, we have many HD facilities houses in
> Europe able to process material and we mustn't forget standards conversion as
> well. Any HD footage made in the US can be converted to PAL just by using a
> nice an expensive standards converter from someone like Snell & Wilcox. No
> significant loss in quality, those in Europe will remember the last Olymipics
> and the Japanese football (soccer) World Cup which I believe were both
> originated partly in HD and converted.
>
> Alot of US broadcasters don't have nice Standards converters because of the
lack
> of interest in PAL sourced material, and when we Europeans send material over
> to the US we often convert it here to NTSC prior to delivery. A decent
facility
> in London wouldn't be seen without.
>
> Please don't think I'm American bashing or NTSC bashing (although I have my
> opinions about 'Never Twice Same Colour' :), but I will say I'm not enthused
by
> HD, especially when they say they want to use it to distribute for E-Cinema.
>
> Bob
>
> --
> The first person to violence is the last person to think.
>
>
>
> ----- Message from hamish@cloud.net.au ---------
> Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2004 14:50:43 +1100
> From: Hamish Moffatt <hamish@cloud.net.au>
> Reply-To: Hamish Moffatt <hamish@cloud.net.au>
> Subject: [linux-dvb] Re: hdtv & dvb
> To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org
>
> On Thu, Mar 11, 2004 at 11:03:28PM +0100, Robert Schlabbach wrote:
> > From: "Hamish Moffatt" <hamish@cloud.net.au>
> > > On Thu, Mar 11, 2004 at 09:35:27PM +0100, Robert Schlabbach wrote:
> > > > It's only broadcasting HDTV demo loops, though. But in contrast to
> > > > EURO1080 this service is broadcasting "true" 1080i at 59.94
> > > > fields/sec, whereas EURO1080 uses an uncommon 50 fields/sec.
> > >
> > > Wouldn't 50 fields/sec simply be the PAL rate?
> >
> > Hmm, ok, I can see how stations who have huge archives of PAL material
> > might want to use 50 fields/sec HDTV for easier conversion. But EURO1080
> > isn't such a station, so I don't see why they chose this. In fact, most
> > HDTV material available today will likely be 59,94 fields/sec, so IMHO
> > EURO1080 made a pretty stupid decision, since they cannot easily purchase
> > HDTV shows e.g. from the USA and just broadcast that.
>
> Why not? We get American shows here (Australia) broadcast in 50 Hz PAL,
> as Peter Urbanec said. ER, CSI, Without a Trace, etc.
>
> It sounds like EURO1080 is targetting the European market, so why
> wouldn't they use PAL? How odd.
>
> Hamish
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> Hamish Moffatt VK3SB <hamish@debian.org> <hamish@cloud.net.au>
>
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