[vdr] Re: Commerial Filter?

[Manfred Schmidt-Voigt <manfred.schmidt-voigt@mannitec.de>]

Hi List

I am still waiting for the day, when the big stations start selling 
the black borders around the movies to the commercial agents. The 
pricing model could be very interesting. For example "Ben Hur" is 
more expensive for the commercials because the movie will only disturb 
a small stripe in the middle of the screen. For the different Products 
they can use the relationships to the scenes of a movie. Everytime 
in "Flammendes Inferno" when you see the burning Tower they can show 
the commercial of a fire insurance above and the commercial of "OBI" 
on the bottom. During "Das große Fressen" they can show "Darfs auch 
was von RatioPharm sein?". 

I think there is a lot of room for improvement. And if I have the 
choice of cutting some of the actual commercials by hand or to have 
an automatic tool, which leads the commercial industry to new Ideas 
(see above.) then I like to have the first opportunity.

Kind regards and don't take it to serious
Manfred Schmidt-Voigt





At Monday, 25 February 2002, you wrote:

>On Monday, 25. February 2002 09:38, you wrote:
>> Hello!
>>
>> Am Montag, 25. Februar 2002 05:43 schrieb Marco:
>> > Oh, sounds greate. Is there a tool / patch who detect commerial 
brakes?
>>
>> This could be possible by merging motion (http://motion.technolust.
cx/)
>> with VDR.
>
>Better do not invent something like this, otherwise we will get 
more and more 
>logo's and overlaid commercials into the movies.
>
>But there are some legitimations not to watch certain commercials:
>
>-you are not the supposed customer
>-you did already watch it (the most important one ;-)
>-you did already buy their product
>
>That idea can be implemented using frame-fingerprints in a library 
at your 
>computer (i mentioned that idea before), any commercial you already 
watched 
>and cut out by manual editing automagically get's in the library.
>
>Later recordings are scanned _during_ recording to throw away those 
frames 
>and safe precious disk space.
>
>Someone with good knowledge of the MPEG2 format could extract some 
>DCT-coefficients at some places in the frame directly and test if 
that idea 
>is usable and has a sharp enough detection.
>
>Simple cut out the same commercial from 2 different broadcasts and 
extract 
>the values, compare them. If they have only slightly differences 
or are 
>identical it can be done!
>
>It would use so little cpu-cycles that it can be done (optionally) in 
>realtime as well or just create the marks.vdr file if you don't 
trust it ;-)
>
>The disadvantage is of course, that you have to "view" each commercial 
at 
>least once.
>
>The advantage is, that it would'nt drive the broadcasters crazy, IMHO.
>



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