vdr February 2005

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moved to a new house and switched from dvb-t to dvb-c
by Palko Jukka 25 Feb '05

25 Feb '05

I have had a bit of fun with this move as I was previously running vdr 1.3.18 with a FF dvb-t card and the new place has cable network, so I decided to get a cable card for the job. The card in question is http://linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Supported_DVB_cards#Hauppauge.2FTT_Nexus-… Yesterday it work like this: Feb 23 17:00:58 [kernel] saa7146: register extension 'dvb'. Feb 23 17:00:58 [kernel] ACPI: PCI interrupt 0000:00:0c.0[A] -> GSI 16 (level, low) -> IRQ 16 Feb 23 17:00:58 [kernel] DVB: registering new adapter (Octal/Technotrend DVB-C for iTV). Feb 23 17:01:00 [kernel] Octal/Technotrend DVB-C for iTV adapter 0 has MAC addr = 00:d0:5c:24:59:ce Feb 23 17:01:00 [kernel] gpioirq unknown type=0 len=0 Feb 23 17:01:00 [kernel] DVB: AV7111(0) - firm f0240009, rtsl b0250018, vid 71010068, app 8000261c Feb 23 17:01:01 [kernel] av7110(0): adac type set to 0 Feb 23 17:01:01 [kernel] videodev: "av7110" has no release callback. Please fix your driver for proper sysfs support, see http://lwn.net/Articles/36850/ Feb 23 17:01:01 [vdr] no DVB device found Feb 23 17:01:01 [vdr] initializing plugin: channelscan (0.0.3): Plugin for satelite scan Feb 23 17:01:01 [vdr] initializing plugin: femon (0.7.7): DVB Signal Information Monitor (OSD) Feb 23 17:01:01 [vdr] initializing plugin: osdteletext (0.4.1): Displays teletext on the OSD Feb 23 17:01:01 [vdr] initializing plugin: mp3 (0.9.10): A versatile audio player Feb 23 17:01:01 [vdr] loading /video/vdr/plugins/mp3sources.conf Feb 23 17:01:01 [vdr] WARNING: removing trailing '/' from base /work/mp3/ Feb 23 17:01:01 [vdr] loading id3 cache from /video/id3info.cache Feb 23 17:01:01 [vdr] initializing plugin: mplayer (0.9.10): Media replay via MPlayer Feb 23 17:01:01 [vdr] loading /video/vdr/plugins/mplayersources.conf Feb 23 17:01:01 [vdr] WARNING: removing trailing '/' from base /work/videos/ Feb 23 17:01:01 [vdr] initializing plugin: subtitles (0.3.6): DVB subtitles decoder Feb 23 17:01:01 [vdr] ERROR: invalid primary device number: 1 Feb 23 17:01:01 [vdr] ERROR: no primary device found - using first device! Feb 23 17:01:01 [vdr] ERROR: invalid primary device number: 1 Feb 23 17:01:01 [vdr] saved setup to /video/vdr/setup.conf Feb 23 17:01:01 [vdr] stopping plugin: subtitles Feb 23 17:01:01 [vdr] ERROR: (null): Bad address Feb 23 17:01:01 [vdr] stopping plugin: mplayer Feb 23 17:01:01 [vdr] stopping plugin: mp3 Feb 23 17:01:01 [vdr] stopping plugin: osdteletext Feb 23 17:01:01 [vdr] stopping plugin: femon Feb 23 17:01:01 [vdr] stopping plugin: channelscan Feb 23 17:01:01 [vdr] exiting Today I upgraded to 2.6.10 gentoo-dev-sources and now it works this way: Feb 25 06:28:49 [vdr] VDR version 1.3.18 started Feb 25 06:28:49 [vdr] loading plugin: /usr/lib/vdr/libvdr-channelscan.so.1.3.18 Feb 25 06:28:49 [vdr] loading plugin: /usr/lib/vdr/libvdr-femon.so.1.3.18 Feb 25 06:28:49 [vdr] loading plugin: /usr/lib/vdr/libvdr-osdteletext.so.1.3.18 Feb 25 06:28:49 [vdr] loading plugin: /usr/lib/vdr/libvdr-mp3.so.1.3.18 Feb 25 06:28:49 [vdr] loading plugin: /usr/lib/vdr/libvdr-mplayer.so.1.3.18 Feb 25 06:28:49 [vdr] loading plugin: /usr/lib/vdr/libvdr-subtitles.so.1.3.18 Feb 25 06:28:49 [su(pam_unix)] session closed for user vdr Feb 25 06:28:49 [vdr] loading /video/vdr/setup.conf Feb 25 06:28:49 [vdr] loading /video/vdr/sources.conf Feb 25 06:28:49 [vdr] loading /video/vdr/diseqc.conf Feb 25 06:28:49 [vdr] loading /video/vdr/channels.conf Feb 25 06:28:49 [vdr] loading /video/vdr/timers.conf Feb 25 06:28:49 [vdr] loading /video/vdr/svdrphosts.conf Feb 25 06:28:49 [vdr] loading /video/vdr/ca.conf Feb 25 06:28:49 [vdr] loading /video/vdr/remote.conf Feb 25 06:28:49 [vdr] loading /video/vdr/keymacros.conf Feb 25 06:28:49 [vdr] ERROR: unknown plugin 'screenshot' Feb 25 06:28:49 [vdr] found 1 video device Feb 25 06:28:49 [vdr] initializing plugin: channelscan (0.0.3): Plugin for satelite scan Feb 25 06:28:49 [vdr] initializing plugin: femon (0.7.7): DVB Signal Information Monitor (OSD) Feb 25 06:28:49 [vdr] initializing plugin: osdteletext (0.4.1): Displays teletext on the OSD Feb 25 06:28:49 [vdr] initializing plugin: mp3 (0.9.10): A versatile audio player Feb 25 06:28:49 [vdr] loading /video/vdr/plugins/mp3sources.conf Feb 25 06:28:49 [vdr] WARNING: removing trailing '/' from base /work/mp3/ Feb 25 06:28:49 [vdr] loading id3 cache from /video/id3info.cache Feb 25 06:28:50 [vdr] initializing plugin: mplayer (0.9.10): Media replay via MPlayer Feb 25 06:28:50 [vdr] loading /video/vdr/plugins/mplayersources.conf Feb 25 06:28:50 [vdr] WARNING: removing trailing '/' from base /work/videos/ Feb 25 06:28:50 [vdr] initializing plugin: subtitles (0.3.6): DVB subtitles decoder Feb 25 06:28:50 [vdr] setting primary device to 1 Feb 25 06:28:50 [vdr] SVDRP listening on port 2001 Feb 25 06:28:50 [vdr] starting plugin: channelscan Feb 25 06:28:50 [vdr] starting plugin: femon Feb 25 06:28:50 [vdr] starting plugin: osdteletext Feb 25 06:28:50 [vdr] starting plugin: mp3 Feb 25 06:28:50 [vdr] starting plugin: mplayer Feb 25 06:28:50 [vdr] starting plugin: subtitles Feb 25 06:28:50 [vdr] loading /video/vdr/plugins/subchannels.conf Feb 25 06:28:50 [vdr] loading /video/vdr/themes/sttng-default.theme Feb 25 06:28:50 [lircd 0.7.0] accepted new client on /dev/lircd I haven't found from where that screenshot complaint comes as I do not have it specified to be loaded. :) I grabbed the channels.conf file mentioned here: http://linvdr.org/mailinglists/vdr/2003/01/msg00266.html and now my problem is this: Feb 25 07:35:01 [vdr] switching to channel 2 Feb 25 07:35:06 [vdr] ERROR: device 1 has no lock, can't attach receiver! Feb 25 07:35:39 [vdr] switching to channel 3 Feb 25 07:35:44 [vdr] ERROR: device 1 has no lock, can't attach receiver! Suggestions? Should I go for the 2.6.11 kernel rc's or try some other combination of dvb driver versions? -Jukka -- Jukka Palko jpalko(a)vapaa.fi Postmaster jpalko(a)ipi.fi Vapaa Internet Ry +358-(0)50-4876931 "Only if you want to, will you find a way..." -- Enya

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DVD-plugin: How do I choose audio stream?
by Erik Tjernlund 25 Feb '05

25 Feb '05

Is there a way to make the dvd-plugin _not_ choose the AC3 audio stream, when playing dvds? I just want the ordinary analog sound from the DVB-card's output. /Erik -- "Put me back on my bike!" <http://erik.tjernlund.net/>

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arguments to mesg command
by thomas＠longva.com 25 Feb '05

25 Feb '05

I am not been able to find any information about this. Is it possible to describe the time a mesg message should stay on screen ? Even better would be a switch that makes the message on screen until a key is pressed. Any soulutions ? Thomas

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MP3/MPlayer plugin 0.9.11 (development)
by s.huelswitt＠gmx.de 24 Feb '05

24 Feb '05

Hi, a new release of the MP3/MPlayer plugin is available from my homepage. Main feature of this release is the inclusion of the background/cover image patch. <http://www.muempf.de/down/vdr-mp3-0.9.11.tar.gz> NEWS: 20.02.2005: Version 0.9.11 development (vdr 1.2.6/1.3.21) - Now using propper readdir() to scan directory contents rather than the external find & sort tools. - Added cover image display during MP3 replay. See the README on how this has to be configured. If you was using the old image patch, be aware that there are now new commandline options and that the layout of the cache directory has changed. Initial patch made by Eloy, currently maintained by Tobias Grimm for ctvdr-debian package. -- Stefan Huelswitt s.huelswitt(a)gmx.de | http://www.muempf.de/

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questions about FF card demuxing, and the ECD chip...
by whoMAN 24 Feb '05

24 Feb '05

I have a few questions regarding how FF cards acheive correct A/V sync during live tv. I know there have been discussions about this in the past, but it seems they never ended up going anywhere... Please excuse my ignorance with any or all of this... It appears that under certain circumstances [NTSC content? or perhaps provider specific?], there is an A/V SYNC problem with playback [not live tv] of a decrypted stream [using my CI module, utilizing the CAM interface layer]...all FTA channels have perfect A/V SYNC. This ONLY happens on FULL FEATURED cards, like my NEXUS-S. With my NOVA-S, I do not experience the same problems. After some investigation, I have found that the SOFTWARE front ends keep A/V sync by using the AUDIO PTS as the master, and adjusting the VIDEO FRAMERATE to keep sync. The only possibility I can think of is that perhaps during the decryption process, the framerate of the video stream becomes variable...thus requiring SYNC to be kept by the method mentioned above [adjusting framerate based on AUDIO PTS]. Since FF cards use their own muxer, I was thinking perhaps this muxer uses some OTHER method to keep sync... The only way THAT could be possible is if the ECD chip is passing information along to the muxer, which doesn't happen at all when playing back a recorded stream....since you've already recorded the incorrect framerate, and there is no ECD activity during playback [since decryption was already acheived during initial recording] Questions: 1. What method does the FF muxer use to ensure proper A/V SYNC? 2. Can the FF muxer be modified at all? Perhaps, through patching the firmware? 3. Is this a valid assumption: The ECD chip provides SYNC info to the muxer for decrypted streams during LIVE TV I know that my questions are based on a series of assumptions that could possibly be completely incorrect, so I apologize if that is the case. Thanks, whoMAN

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RE: [vdr] OT: Best DVI Video Card for Xine
by jori.hamalainen＠teliasonera.com 24 Feb '05

24 Feb '05

> > I also agree, but I can be very ignorant on this. HDTV is a > 'computer' display. And don't see any banding on my computer > monitor which runs with 50Hz mains and 85Hz VGA. Or should I > see, and what I should look for? > > To the decision being based on history and politics, I would > also add legacy. It will take some time before stations have > enough HD native originated material to fill 100% of their > schedules and what about re-runs of pre HD material? Keeping > the frame rate the same means standard definition material > just needs upscaling, rather than interpolating to a > different frame rate as well. Look critically at material > that has been NTSC->PAL standards converted to see the > compromises the latter involves. But what happens after say 10 years, when hopefully all material is HD and we do not need to support legacy stuff. But still 50Hz HDTV system is used because of "legacy". I think that current 576i DVB is going to die within a few years. At least I hope there will be pressure from consumer side to move on from mid-60s TV-standard just with a digital transmission line. But I see a plot. First you sell all the people SD digital stuff, then sell them HD stuff. That keeps the commerce going.. :-) My current way of thinking is that if legacy formats are upsampled to HDTV resolution, HDTV channel still looks crappy on upsampled stuff, and probably won't do much more harm doing also the framerate conversion. And us Europeans are very used to this because of NTSC->PAL conversion. Also many broadcasters have SDTV co-channel for HDTV channel, so you can watch TV also via SDTV-side. This is the Australian model, have 2 streams per channel, one HDTV and one SDTV. About stations filling channel with HD-material. Every movie is HD. In 2005 every US serie is most likely filmed with HD. And if european broadcasting/production companies would purchase HD cameras/production stuff today, then all material would be HD (news, documentaries, homeland series, commercials etc). And who needs re-runs on HD channel. Keep the SD channel for those. HDTV tuners can also tune to SDTV. Of course in my dreamworld HDTV channel should change framerate per show. Movies with 1080p/24fps, EU legacy series/stuff with 50fps and US series with 24/60fps. And that would also enable VDR to do 'easy' noad. If framefrate changes from 24fps to 50/60fps we have commercials.. :-) Or do you think that year 2020 DVB/576i is still alive? I hope that in Finland 2007 by dropping analogue TV-channels there will HD channels. Not 100 channels more of "reality-tv" with SDTV. VCR's are dying, most retail stores report that consumers don't purchase them anymore (at Finland at least). And has been VCR sold for about 25 years (1980-2004). Best regards, Jori

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Building latest DVB driver on 2.6
by John Grant 24 Feb '05

24 Feb '05

I asked on the dvb list, but no one responded... Anyway, when I upgraded to 1.3.X I built a new machine and used the 2.6 kernel. After quite a few problems with the kernel drivers (like none of the DVB-t drivers being there) I settled on using the CVS driver and used the build-2.6/makefile. I'm having problems with software RAID and am trying to move to a newer 2.6, so I went and got the current (obviously) CVS driver and did the make, but there are no alps_tdlb7 or grundig_401 drivers there, no .o, no sources, nothing. What am I missing, obviously I'm not the only alps_tdlb7 user out there!

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RE: [vdr] OT: Best DVI Video Card for Xine
by jori.hamalainen＠teliasonera.com 23 Feb '05

23 Feb '05

> >I have also ran 1080i with Linux, GeForce4 Ti 4800 SE and DVI. But > >overscan on my projector was so large that I could not use computer > >via that so I changed to native 1:1 pixel mapping (1366x768). I can > >re-check my setup with 1080i and latest NVidia linux-driver. > > Please do!!! What all people are getting with 6629, is an > offset between the 2 interlaced frames by 10 pixels or so. Like a vertical shadow. I see that on 6629 I have the same problem. I am not sure on which driver version I tested, but I was under impression that it worked with a bad overscan. > I am running VGA 1920x1080p to my projector instead, but I'm > pretty sure the Faroudja FLI2300 deinterlaces better than the HTPC. I think Faroudja chips are not so good. At least my Philips LCD TV has such chip, and everytime text is scrolling Faroudja's autosensing goes wrong, and on scrolling text I get bad combing and also picture judders a couple of times when format changes. Luckily on my projector I can control deinterlacing by turning off "film" mode deinterlace (so just use video deinterlace), so video material from VDR always runs smoothly. My LCD doesn't allow this. I see that this is problem of my TV, but if Faroudja was good it would not do this. HTPC also can read MPEG streams flags to aid deinterlacing/inverse telecine, and Faroudja's don't have that stuff because they are behind video line on TVs/projectors. Best regards, Jori

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[OT]: need 'Emergency Room' from 22.02.2005
by Juri Haberland 23 Feb '05

23 Feb '05

Hi List, sorry for this very off-topic mail but I urgently need the last episode of Emergency Room broadcasted on 22.02.2005 on Pro7. If someone has this episode I would be glad if I could download it or if the person in question could burn it on CD/DVD and send it over to me (of course I would pay him the money for the medium and postal stuff). Please, please... Thanks in advance, Juri

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playing with streamdev
by tony 23 Feb '05

23 Feb '05

Hello, After RTFM I can't understand how to read a stream using VDR -> VDR client on a different machine. I have installed VDR and vdr-xine on the client machine but how do I run VDR on a machine with no DVB card? Do I have to modprobe the DVB modules? What do I do to attach the VDR streamdev client to the stream? Both xine and VLC can attach but I want the VDR menus EPG etc on my client. This isn't very clear in the docs sorry. Cheers Tony Grant

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