[vdr] EPG Question (concerning BBC3 and BBC4)

Brian Brian_dorling at t-online.de
Thu Feb 8 17:25:58 CET 2007

Jon Burgess wrote:
> On Mon, 2007-02-05 at 20:12 +0100, Brian wrote:
>> Tony Grant wrote:
>>> Le lundi 05 février 2007 à 17:49 +0100, Brian a écrit :
>>>> BBC3 and BBC4 only start to show programs at 19:00 UK time. My EPG for 
>>>> these programs comes via the internet. If I try to look at the EPG for 
>>>> those channels before 19:00, then they are not even shown in the list of 
>>>>   programs I have EPG for on the OSD.
>>>> I assume this is a desired behaviour of VDR. If so, any way to change it?
>>>> I didn't find anyway in the Menus.
>>> I use the following method:
>>> 	- grab the EPG from the radio times site with xmltv
>>> 	- feed vdr with xmltv2vdr
>>> 	- vdr updates "on the fly" EPG data for changed times
>>> And I use vdradmin rather than the OSD so you see the timelines of 3 and
>>> 4 starting at 7. Before then you do have ceebeebies and the other kids
>>> channel onn the same frequency
>>> Cheers
>>> Tony 
>> Tony,
>> I get the EPG into VDR the same way. And I can see it via VDRAdmin. Its 
>> just I want to see it on the OSD before 7pm if at all possible.
>> Cheers Brian
> I use the off-air EPG and the display of BBC3/4 is OK right now (18:30).
> When you look at the EPG in vdradmin do you see any programs covering
> the period when the channel is off-air?
> I see token schedule entries covering the off-air period:
> 05:32 - 12:00 'This is BBC THREE'
> 12:00 - 18:58 'This is BBC THREE'
> 18:58 - 19:00 'Welcome to BBC THREE'
> ... on-air
> 19:00 - 20:00 'Dog Borstal'
> ...
> Perhaps the issue with xmltv2vdr is that there are voids in the schedule
> data which (might) cause the channel not to be listed in the schedule
> guide. 
> 	Jon
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maybe I was not clear about the problem. My EPG for BBC3/4 has about 1 
weeks data in it. I retrieve it from the Radio Times website. Here is an 
excerpt from VDRAdmin.

04:20 - 04:50 The Indestructibles
				<---- big gap here, same each day
20:00 - 20:30 Doctor Who Confidential
20:30 - 21:15 Doctor Who

The problem is if I go into the VDR OSD and press schedule (when tuned 
to BBC1 for example), then hit the NEXT button, then I get a list of all 
  channels that VDR has got EPG for. "Whats on next" is the screen 
title. Before 19:00 (UK time) this list is missing BBC3 and BBC4. So I 
cannot select them to look at the EPG data which is most certainly there.

I think VDR is saying "BBC3 and BBC4 do not exist, therefore don't show 
their EPG". Or, this channel is "CBeebies, get its EPG", which does not 

If I tune to BBC3 before 19:00 then press "OK", I do not get the usual 
two EPG entries "Whats on now" and "Whats on next". So it seems like it 
isn't retrieving the EPG from the epg.data file at that time either.

Cheers Brian

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