[vdr] [DISCUSSION REQUEST] reintroduce a common make configuration file in VDR-1.7.35

VDR User user.vdr at gmail.com
Sun Dec 30 18:27:02 CET 2012

On Sun, Dec 30, 2012 at 4:26 AM, fnu <vdr at auktion.hostingkunde.de> wrote:
>> Why are the majority of the users German - and why does it stay that way?
> Is it for the greater benefit of VDR?
> This is not the fault of the german users, VDR is historically a "german
> speaking project", initiated by a german guy, used by the biggest VDR
> community, german, austrian and swiss people. I guess most of them don't
> feel save enough to write in english, they don't want to be blamed for not
> being nativ speaker and vdr-portal.de is far the better way to find
> information and solution.
> You should rather ask why the rest does not join this biggest VDR forum?
> There are a lot of people answering in english ...

That's no mystery at all. When you go to vdrportal, easily the vast
majority of posts are in german. That doesn't make it appear as an
english-friendly forum and is an immediate turn-off. How are users
supposed to search for what they're looking for? Maybe they should
just ask the same questions over and over again, probably getting
bashed for doing so and not "searching" the forum for previous answers
to the same questions. Next, NA users tend to have questions regarding
NA-specific issues, which german users tend to not have answers to
since its not something they have to deal with. That's just two of the
most common issues, but certainly not all of them.

I know TONS of english-speaking users who have visited vdrportal and
most of them haven't returned because the little sprinkles of english
posts aren't enough to make them feel comfortable asking questions,
getting answers, or feeling like a welcome visitor/member. And
honestly, do germans want to have to keep translating everything for
non-german users when they're asked? I doubt it. As good as vdrportal
is as a VDR resource, the language barrier _is_ a problem for english

As far as the mailing list, many users seem to think its for devs only
and/or they don't have anything to contribute being users with nothing
but questions. There are also many users who simply don't use mailing
lists (or forums for that matter) either because they don't want to or
because they think others will ask and they can just search for
answers. I think it's unfortunate because if they did, people would
have a better idea of the types of VDR users that exist, and further
they would have some clue about how big non-german/non-european VDR
communities exist.

Everything above is all common and has been at least as long as my own
VDR history started about 10 years ago. Keep in mind, even VDR itself
wasn't even NA friendly for most of its existence.

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