[vdr] Re: RFC: DVD playback

[Klaus Schmidinger <Klaus.Schmidinger@cadsoft.de>]

Andreas Schultz wrote:
> 
> rosinr@web.de wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> >
> >>currently i use the following keys:
> >>
> >>key    |  function
> >>-------+----------------------------
> >>  2     |  up
> >>  8     |  down
> >>  4     |  left
> >>  6     |  right
> >>  5     |  ok
> >>  1     |  root menu
> >>  3     |  titel menu
> >>  7     |  subtitle menu
> >>  9     |  language selection menu
> >>RIGHT  |  fast forward
> >>LEFT   |  fast rewind
> >>YELLOW |  next chapter
> >>GREEN  |  prev. chapter
> >>DOWN   |  stop
> 
> btw, DOWN is pause like in normal vdr playback and not stop
> 
> >>what i would like to know now is, wether people can live with that or if
> >>somebody has a better idea.
> >>
> >
> > In navigation mode (menus etc.) I would recommend using the right,left,up,
> > down and ok-button, since I really have problems when navigating via the
> > number-buttons. As the fast forward/rewind buttons don't really make sense
> > in a menu, this wouldn't break the "standard"-vdr-interface.
> 
> The functionality mapped onto OK, RIGHT, LEFT and DOWN does work in
> menues and makes kinda sense, IMHO. So those keyes are allready gone.
> I would realy prefer to use those keys and have fast forward/rewind and
> stop on proper keys that are labeled that way, BUT the "default" vdr
> remote control has no such keys.

Well, on the RC I use (vivanco UR8) those keys *are* labeled as one would expect.
The "Up" key is labeled with an "Up" arrow *and" the "Play" symbol, the "Right"
key has a right arrow and the "Fast Forward" symbol and so on.

On my RC I use only very few keys (as can be seen in VDR), so I can control
the whole shebang with only my thumb moving (as long as I don't need the number
keys, which happens only very rarely). If you use separate keys for menu control
(up/down/left/right) and replay control (play/ffwd/frew/pause) you'll only
have longer ways to go with your fingers. Not that I'm too lazy to move even a finger,
but I believe that a RC with as few keys as possible is what VDR should have.
Besides, I can't see the need for having menu control *and* replay control keys
available at the *same* time. The more keys you require, the fewer choices you
have when selecting a remote control.

That's why I am very reluctant when it comes to defining new key assignments.

I do have plans (as mentioned in an other message in this thread) to implement
the possibility that one can define separate keys for all these functions, but
this has very low priority - and by default VDR will always have to work with
a remote control that has only the smallest set of keys.

Just a few thoughts...

BTW: did I miss the announcement of the -nav8 DVD patch?

Klaus
                      
> >>I also have at least three more functions that need to be placed
> >>somewhere. A direct (manual) audio track selection, a direct subtitle
> >>selection and (eventualy) a recording function.
> >>A record function should probaly be on MENU->RED. But what about the
> >>others? any ideas?
> >>
> >
> > What I really like about the old dbox are it's options menus. I think this
> > could
> > be useful for dvd-replay too. So only one button for the option-menu and
> > within
> > the option menu, you can navigate with the arrow-buttons (and ok) and select
> > language and subtitles.
> 
> /bin/agreed
> 
> >>OSD status feedback:
> >>
> >>the -nav8 patch contains a working progess bar, that shows the current
> >>title and chapter, and the current time within the current track. Is
> >>that enough or should any additional information be displayed and how?
> >>
> >
> > I haven't tested your last patch, but is there an information about total
> > number
> > of chapters in this title?
> 
> I have this information, but it is not displayed at the moment, however
> it has the same problem as the total time in the progress bar. I can
> determin how long the title is (in chapters and minutes), but there is
> no guarantee that the title will be played sequentialy. Those numbers
> might therefore be misleading. The only correct value is the current
> playtime within the current chapter.
> 
> >
> > best regards,
> > reiner
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >

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