[vdr] Re: Proposal: cutting out advertising automatically

[Andreas Mair <Andreas.Mair@linogate.com>]

Hi,

On Tuesday 22 October 2002 10:38, Matthias Schniedermeyer wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 22, 2002 at 09:57:51AM +0200, Steffen Koch wrote:
> > Andreas Mair wrote:
> > >>2. We could analyze the MPEG-2 data stream for a number of sensible
> > >>criteria (sender logo present; average loudness; ratio of scene change;
> > >>etc, anything else?, then produce a probability for commercials) and
> > >>produce a suggestion for cutting.
> > >
> > >I like this idea. There had been some discussion on this list some time
> > >ago.
> > >I believe that commercials shouldn't be cut automatically, but the marks
> > >should be set. So it would be possible to skip a commercial while
> > > viewing or manually start cutting when the marks are verified. With
> > > this method you won't cut/miss part of the recording.
> >
> > This sounds indeed good.
>
> Not when you think about it.
>
> Verify takes longer than creating cutting marks yourself.
> (I mean "real" verify, where you have to check a) The Position of the
> marks and b) if all marks are there or if a pair is missing.)

OK, I have to agree in case of "real" verify. I assumed all marks are there 
(no commercial missed). I know this can be reached hardly, but who knows.
Verifying only the marks' positions won't take too long. You just skip to them 
one by one and fine-tune it.
I was thinking of recordings you watch and delete. Here it would be cool if I 
could skip commercials with a single key press (or VDR could skip them 
automatically, so that I can FFWD if it missed the commercial).

> "Blindly" trusting other to make all marks correct is another story. I
> would not use "forgein" cutting-marks without checking if they are
> correct and as i said this takes longer than you need for creating your
> own cutting-marks.

Fully agree, I wouldn't trust "foreign" keys without checking too.

> (Taking aside that i use my own cutting-software which takes only a few
> seconds for a whole recording (on Premiere. ("Begin -> End -> Ready")
> and a few seconds more for a FreeTV-Recording ("Begin -> End -> Begin ->
> End -> Begin -> End -> Begin -> End -> Ready"). I have around 4-10
> cuttings per day so an efficient cutting-tool is essential for me. (And
> when i wrote my cutting-software VDR didn't had any cutting at all. (>2
> Years ago)))

Which tool? How does this it work?

Regards,
Andreas


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