[vdr] Re: wrong entry in EPG - Update

[Maxime GUILBOT <maxime.guilbot@online.fr>]

Oliver Endriss wrote:

>On Friday 30 August 2002 09:29, Klaus Schmidinger wrote:
>
>>Oliver Endriss wrote:
>>
>>>[...]
>>>
>>>If I understand ETSI EN 300 468 correctly, the combination
>>>(original_network_id, transport_stream_id, service_id) should
>>>identify the event information in a unique way.
>>>Perhaps this could be changed in a future VDR release, should be
>>>easy.
>>>
>>>But this will not solve our problem because La Cinquieme transmits
>>>bogus EPG data for some channels. NetworkID, TransportStreamID and
>>>ServiceID match. For example:
>>>
>>>EPG data transmitted by ZDF:
>>>   EventID: 5509
>>>   ServiceID: 28006
>>>   TransportStreamID: 1079
>>>   OriginalNetworkID: 1
>>>   EitVersion: 12
>>>   StartTime: Fri Aug 30 03:50:00 2002
>>>   Duration: 5 Minuten
>>>   Status: RUNNING_STATUS_NOT_RUNNING
>>>   Descriptor: Short Event
>>>      Name: heute nachtausgabe
>>>      LanguageCode: deu
>>>
>>>EPG data transmitted by La Cinquieme
>>>   EventID: 24201
>>>   ServiceID: 28006
>>>   TransportStreamID: 1079
>>>   OriginalNetworkID: 1
>>>   EitVersion: 30
>>>   StartTime: Fri Aug 30 06:00:00 2002
>>>   Duration: 1440 Minuten
>>>   Status: RUNNING_STATUS_NOT_RUNNING
>>>   Descriptor: Short Event
>>>      Name: PROGRAMMES ALLEMANDS
>>>      LanguageCode: fra
>>>
>>>--> There a two sources of EPG information for ZDF.
>>>
>>I guess the French broadcasters think they have to "warn" their
>>viewers that the ZDF transmits in German. I find it outrageous that
>>one broadcaster transmits bogus EPG data with the ids of another.
>>Maybe this should be brought to the attention of the ZDF people -
>>they could probably do something against this, if they're up to it.
>>
>
>Astra transponder 90 (12.207 GHz) is used by CanalSatellite. 
>Is there anybody on this list who speaks French and has some connections 
>to CanalSatellite?
>
I'm french and I have the Canalsatellite demo. I know that on german 
channel, PROGRAMMES ALLEMANDS is displayed all day long. But I don't use 
the demo anymore, I'm using vdr, would you like me to power on again the 
canalsat demo ?

>
>On the other hand I'm not sure whether they do something wrong at all.
>They just  tell their customers that there is a channel 'ZDF' which 
>transmits a German program 24/7.
> 
>It would be interesting to know how a standard digital receiver handles 
>this. Could someone test this? (I don't own such a device and I'm 
>pretty sure that I will not buy one as long it has not more features 
>than VDR. :-)
>
>>>So what could be done?
>>>a) do nothing, it's a feature :-)
>>>
>>It's a dumb-ass silly idea of the French broadcasters, and we should
>>definitely do something against it.
>>
>>>b) bug fix the way Klaus suggested
>>>
>>I'll do that in the next 1.1.x release.
>>
>>>c) ignore EIT data for 'other TS' (table ids 0x4f, 0x60, 0x61)
>>>   --> you have to tune to each transponder to collect EPG data
>>>d) remove *all* EPG data received from 'other TS' when valid data
>>>for 'actual TS' is being received
>>>
>>That would unnecessary limit the capabilities of VDR.
>>
>
>Ack for case c) but not for d):
>I mentioned d) because in ProcessEIT() something similar is already 
>implemented: EIT data from 'other TS' cannot overwrite existing EIT 
>data from 'actual TS'. This could be extended:
>- ignore EIT data from 'other TS' if there is *current* EIT data from
>  'actual TS'
>- remove any existing EIT data received from 'other TS' when EIT data
>  from 'actual TS' is being updated.
>
>>>e) use the LanguageCode to select which EPG data should be
>>>displayed
>>>
>>I think VDR should display the EPG of all channels it knows, no
>>matter what language they broadcast in.
>>
>
>I thought of something like a 'preferred EPG language' which is used 
>whenever EPG data is available in two or more EPG languages. If there 
>is just one language it should always be displayed, of course.
>
>Oliver
>
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