[linux-dvb] Re: CAMs - the never ending story...

["Stuart L. Morris" <linuxdvb@crossover.uk.com>]

Szymon has made some good points. It does not help to slag companies 
like Convergence off. They, like the rest of us, have to make a living 
and for most of us our wallets (and wives) shout louder than our support 
for Open Source.

Please can we keep this list for discussion on the technology and leave 
politics and conjecture for another forum?

And now for a techy question...

Does enough information exist in the public domain for someone (given 
enough time ;-) to decrypt B-Sky-B's VideoGuard encryption? I'm not 
talking about getting around the encryption but totally legal Sky 
subscription card plugged into the CI slot on a Hauppauge DVB-s card? 
Would it even be possible or would something have to be done on the 
DVB-s card rather than on the PC?

Many thanks.

Stuart L. Morris.

Szymon Polom wrote:

>Hi,
>
>Quoting Thilo Wunderlich (tw@ubcom.net):
>
>>But what about all the support they got from people on the mailinglists fixing bugs in 
>>their DVB software? They got it for free and they use it to build stuff they sell. (or am I 
>>wrong with this one ?)
>>
>
>I don't see a problem here. Neither a legal nor a moral.
>
>>Now those people are asking for something and get nothing ...
>>
>
>convergence is not the Salvation Army. We are aware of the problems. And we
>are going to fix them as soon as possible. Some internal talks are
>already proceeding.
>
>Maybe such a fix will occur in the spare time of a developer. But shouting
>around "they are taking our bug fixes and making money with it" or "I even
>wonder how they can sell anything with that broken CA/CI" or "we do not see
>any legal problems here" or "It runs under windows" is not the motivation I
>would choose for convincing someone.
>
>I don't see that convergence is behaving like a super capitalist who preys
>the supporting community. We have started a couple of free GPL/LGPL projects
>and we always are trying to do so. We are involved in the development and
>support of much more free projects that we actually started. We have some
>developers on the payroll and they're developing projects like GIMP or
>dietlibc. We are pro Linux as the Digital TV operating system.
>
>>I think Convergence is afraid of a full working (which it is already besides the bad CI 
>>support) vdr box. If people are bulding their own boxes, they won't buy the stuff Galaxis 
>>sells.
>>
>
>We are not afraid of VDR box. Why should we? We're developing superior
>software for superior hardware with a specific guaranteed quantity of boxes
>sold by contract. STB are rarely sold by the hardware manufacturer or software
>vendor to the end consumer.
>
>Well, now you are welcome to punish convergence for being such a lame
>company, because we do not have the time to fix things which are requested.
>
>But please stop to conjecture.
>
>Bye... Szymon.
>





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