[vdr] Re: feature? VPS tagging

[Klaus Schmidinger <Klaus.Schmidinger@cadsoft.de>]

Rainer Zocholl wrote:
> Klaus.Schmidinger@cadsoft.de(Klaus Schmidinger)  30.11.04 22:57
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>
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> > Rainer Zocholl wrote:
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> > > 1) A "flag" in the timer page/menu that says: "VPS signals
> > >   dectected" Or a warning: "Currently no VPS signal" when VPS was
> > >   selected.
>
> > Actually there are no "VPS signals". the VPS information is just
> > a set of data in an EPG event.
>
> But it is a special data set which is only transmitted
> in the "oeffentlich rechtlichen"?
> Pardon me if i don't use the right word ("EPG event"?)
AFAIK that's true. The Austrian ORF channels also broadcast
VPS info, but they mess up their EPG by (randomly?) changing
the ids of their events... :-(

> > > 2) An easy way to get the "real" VPS time.
> > >   Mostly the VPS time is 20:00 but sometimes the
> > >   VPS time is 19:59 regardless the program start will be still at
> > >   20:00. That info "hidden text" in the Videotext pages.
> > >   How is that done in EPG?
>
> > Just select an EPG event with Ok and see the "VPS:..." label at the
> > upper right corner (at least that's where the default skins display
> > it).
>
> I have the "default" skin of 1.3.17, IMHO.
> OSD says: Skin: ST:TNG Panel Theme: Default.
> In the upper right corner i see only some boxes-
> one ist called "Rec" and is red when a recording is running.
> Then a key, then an X, then "oo", then a box with lines.
> Do you mean that?
> Never saw there something with "VPS"
> only in the timer menu i can read "VDR" (not VPS) in 
> the upper right corner.
>
> In "Skin "VDR classic" there is no VPS too (at least i could not
> se such a ting)
I was referring to an _event_.
Here's a detailed instruction:

- press the Menu button
- select "Schedule"
- press Ok
- select an event
- press Ok
- now, if this event has a VPS time that is different than
  the start time, it will be displayed at the upper right
  area of the event page

> BTW:
> The pages are displayed noticible faster with the "classic"
> skin! Too the "gap" between "new channel" and "EPG info" displayed
> is not noticible.
>
> ...
> In the VPS "docu" you wrote:
>
> - The German "\xd6ffentlich Rechtliche" tv stations, although supporting VPS,
>   don't switch the "Running Status" of an upcoming broadcast to "starts in
>   a few seconds", but rather go directly from "unknown" or "not running" to
>   "running". This may result in a recording that misses the first few seconds
>   of the programme.
>
>
> The last point can easily avoided if the recording is started
> 60sec before the "VPS" point.
> If the VPS event does not occur in the next 60s, the recording 
> is discarded and a "new" started.
> If the VPS event occures a cutting mark is set and the recording
> continues.
>
> That would allow the user to see the "trailer" and
> avoid any problem with missing few first seconds (which might
> be relevant...)
The whole idea about VPS is to start recording at the right point
in time. If the tv stations don't handle the "running status" correctly,
I suggest you complain to them. They could very well set the running
status to '3' shortly before the actual broadcast starts, but they
just don't. Things may have changed since the writing of the README.vps
file, though...

Klaus