[vdr] Re: Re : VDR files to vob

[Klaus Schmidinger <Klaus.Schmidinger@cadsoft.de>]

Carsten Koch wrote:
> 
> Rene Bartsch wrote:
> ...
> > > Would it not be very convenient to be able to use the tons of software
> > > that exist to process DVD *.vob files also for VDR 0*.vdr files?
> > >
> >
> > That's exactly what I mean. If we use VOB, we'll have a very compatible
> > format with tons of software and enough pids for multiple audio-,
> > subtitle- and video-streams. And we could write the video_ts-directory
> > directly to DVD by using packet-writing with UDF - which means we could
> > directly record to DVD+/-R(W) - or CD as mini-DVD, if we set file size
> > to 700 MB (I think most of stand-alone DVD-players would also handle CDs
> > with DVD-content)!
> 
> I am the one who years ago talked the driver developers into
> supporting standard MPEG format (rather than AV_PES) directly
> from the driver. I was also the one who pleaded for VDR to
> support standard MPEG format.
> In the meantime, I felt really guilty that I did this, because
> for a long time nothing really worked after the driver started
> to support standard MPEG format.
> Of course, I now feel twice as guilty, because the whole idea
> of using a standard format is worth nothing, if the format is
> standardardized, but not commonly used.
> I am sorry that I did such a bad job of specifying the details
> of my idea. When I came up with the idea, I simply did not know
> that there is a big difference between standard MPEG and
> standard MPEG.
> And a few days ago I still did not know that the one Klaus
> picked was not the most common one.
> 
> In any event, I believe that there is no further need to sell
> the idea of going from PES to PS to Klaus. Klaus has already
> agreed that this will be a good thing. Now all we need is
> somebody who creates the patch...

I guess what I'd first like to see is somebody who can explain
*EXACTLY* what PES and PS is, and what the difference between these
is. If PS is simply "PES with some additional sugar", and that "sugar"
can be generated from the PES data (which apparently it has to be, because
the PES data is retrieved directly from the Transport Stream), then I
wonder why the various players are too dumb to simply extract that data
themselves.

Klaus
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